Turns out overloading a champion with 20 passives and 3 actives on a single ability isn't a very good idea.

its like they looked at master yi and said "yeah that looks like it needs 3 more dashes and hard cc"

It's almost like having so many properties while also being a late-game duelist with ways to both deal and deny damage makes a champ too versatile in execution. Edit: yeah duelist describes her gameplay better.

Apart from all the other issues, I think that by far the biggest problem is how she has an incredible early game AND is a late game god. Not a single champion should ever have both, it basically means that there is no way to counter her. There's no waiting for her to fall off, and there's no winning early before she gets strong.

i've always said that she should play into her fantasy of being a hive controlling swarm queen more than whatever the hell she has now

I find it lowkey hilarious that the queen of the void summons fewer void creatures than malzahar, some random dude who lived in the desert. Like when I heard they added the queen of the void I was incredibly surprised to find her kit was at all the way it currently is.

I still remember when she was revealed and thinking: "So she deals true damage on hit, has no attack speed cap, and has multiple dashes and a stun... yeah, she's never gonna be balanced"

5:50 and he will still be vulnerable to hard engage Tank veigar: allow me to introduce myself

I like the way Hashinshin described her W. You don't miss it, either you fumbled your aim or the enemy used a dash. If you aimed properly, the ability itself is pretty much point and click. A faster and wider Rhaast's W.

The more I think about her the more she looks like a mutation of master yi with more mechanical requirements but less ways to shut her down. Her dashes allow her to dodge skill shots and hunt down enemies similar to alpha strike while she also has a stance that allows her to heal and mitigate damage similar to meditation. But then she also has insane tower pressure thanks to her voidlings and hard cc. And infinite scaling attack speed because that's balanced. The thing about master yis mobility is that it is limited by his attack speed, kills for resets and the ability to reach the enemy as well as highlander, which makes him exceptionally dependent on his items, while belveth has this in her fricking base kit. I think the only real way to balance her is to limit her mobility in the early game in some way. She is not ment to be an early game champ anyway, so why does she have that ganking pressure she currently has???

Senna and Bel'Veth are the perfect example of when you ask 'what if' too many times.

40 meters in 3 seconds, I fell off a cliff

True damage and infinite scaling? Nooooooo Wait, is it %hp true damage? Say no more. Riot could benefit from character limit when writting down champion kits.

Every word of what you said in the video, I completely agree with. Bel'Veth is my second most played champion next to Teemo (catching up and almost passing), and I have zero regrets to picking up on her. I literally ended Season 13 with a near 70% winrate and won the first 7 matches in a row of season 14 with her. The only thing I want to add on is that for some ungodly reason, they allowed a hypercarry to have splitpush potential. Master Yi, Kayle, and Vayne can't remotely hope to splitpush if they fall behind, at least not efficiently. If Bel'Veth gets her wings on the Rift Harold and/or Baron and summons a horde of Void Remora, she will get rid of your towers like a Yorick. I can't tell you how many games I should have lost, but didn't because I took the baron while the enemy team was distracted, and then pushed top or bottom lane, and ended the game. Funny manta ray lady.

Wait… Zeri has been out for three years?! I… I feel so old.

She gets nerfs but whenever she gets stronger is due to system changes, she was ok by the end of last season but voidgruds and kraken buffs made her much stronger, that happens to many champs

Remember, assassins need to be squishy and vulnerable if they can't burst the target down quickly, which is why they usually have a mixture of sustain and tankbusting in their kit

I absolutely love Bel'Veth. I love her hyper-attack fantasy. I also can admit she is wildly insane. Stacking TD, TD AoE execute, 4 dash on 1 ability. The REAL thing that pushed her over the line was introducing Void Grubs early, when she is one of the best early duelists and her contesting it, taking it, and using the empowered R to full rush a lane at 8 minutes is insanity.

I want to add to her defence that the high winrate is mostly due to smurfs picking her(indicated by her rather low pick rate) because when played correctly (and thus being ahead) she has a lot of impact in games

I like how for the infinite scalers section when vars was naming all their weaknesses but didn't say senna since she could blast yo ass from fountain

Honestly riot missed out on making a champ lil abathur from heroes of the storm with bel veth

I mean, if we take off her true damage, and nerf her damage numbers... She'd AT LEAST need her first or second item before she can destroy someone, and kinda everyone can destroy everyone on second item, so... It would be somewhat close to sensible, death to a thousand cuts instead of ignoring tanks.

The augest proplem Makes a great and fun champion Then make a HATE-CRIME type champion 6 mounths later

I think what pushes her over the edge is voigrub/herald impact, if she gets an early void coral and dives you, you can completely lose your turret (even 2 with herald), handicapping you much more reliably than other champions. She's also really good at getting voidgrubs due to stalling with 4 dashes and e dmg reductions or straight up killing you if you're not careful. Even if the match is only slightly going in her favor, her getting access to herald or baron means that if you also lose the next teamfight you can say goodbye to 2 turrets. This "snowball reliability" is what I think makes her so strong. Her Ult execute damage is also kinda insane, 25% missing hp true dmg means you get oneshot if you're 20% hp or less, but at least it requires a bit of skill and setup.

No offense, but can you pleeeease higher your voice. It's difficult to understand you sometimes cuz of the sound level. Or maybe it's a microphone issue, idk, but you're the only one channel i struggling to understand while watching(tho I love your content, you're doing a good job.) So please do smth about it.

the background music brings memories back

Both Bel'Veth and Akshan have novels for abilities, but said abilities are incredibly easy to understand, though Akshan is the harder of the two to play due to being less durable and reliable.

Before even watching the vid - 1) She has one of the best jungle objective synergies in the game, like Shyvanna but less boring and few of the drawbacks. 2) Has dashes and a CC knockup in her kit which allow for great gank setup. 3) Has an ability that gives her damage reduction while doing DOT within her range which makes dueling against her a pain in the ass. 4) Scales really well into late game despite everything mentioned and can 1v9. She's almost like Hecarim in that her kit allows her to do almost everything a carry jungler wants, but at least Hecarim has more clear windows of counterplay by comparison.

vars i love your videos!

13:13 I noticed the doesn't get affected by slow form zilean, If they were to change that that would be really helpfull in terms of the mobility problem, obviously you can't slow it down to same percantage of the actual slow but maybe %50 to 60 percent of the slow to apply to the dash would be big

6:46 Cast ranges are centre to centre, auto attacks are edge to edge, her w is closer to 550 cast range

Each late game monster had their own threat range. Adc are late game monster's because of their range is their natural protection. Their pressure is their auto range. Nasus is his auto range, He can 2 shot adc with 2 q but can be still kited by adc with peel. Master Yi got untagetability and 90% damage reduction and true damage. Kassadin's threat range is very much like bel'veth's but larger. It is shorter cd which means you can cross maps easily and higher damage The only way he doesn;t oneshot is if he misses his ult. He is capped by his mana. He can't spam it infinitly or in extreame succession. You can say that bel'veth's threat range is the range of her 2 dashes, she can spam it all she wants but its not the part of her kit that scales. You can get it to a 5 second cd but the enemy can move. Bel'veth's problem is that even if she deals infinite damage, she still needs to get to the enemy. The difference between her and nasus is that nasus can tank damage becasue all his items are busier cus his damage comes from his q. Bel'veth's damage comes from on hit. The ult passive isn't the reason she does damage. Its like 7% of her damage. She can win every bruiser tank duel in the late game unlike kass becaue she has more dps and tankyness than kass, kass might lose against a tank that built mr in a straght up 1v1. But she has the nasus problem. ADC kite if you go through front to back. This is the reason she prefer 1v1 or 3v3. In a full blown teamfight. She won't have enough to get through the frontline with out getting melted by adc. In a 3v3 tho, she can weave in and out of the walls to assasinate imobile backline or reduce damage. Last reason why she sucks in teamfight. Her w cast time feels too long for late game and her powerbudget mostly comes from her trueform. Without it, she is a squisher version of nasus

I think a particularly elegant way to fix belveth would be to integrate her stacking with her summons (void remora). that part of her kit always felt tacked on but with the rift changes this season (the void corruption), now's the perfect opportunity to pull something like this off. my take is: where she would normally gain lavender from minion/camp/champ takedowns (or be in the vicinity of their deaths), she gains a stack that corresponds to a summon. epic monsters, dragons, herald, baron give increased stacks and the eventual corruption of camps also increases that amount. champions and minions levelling up also do. so in a sense, her scaling is still there as the game progresses. And based on the amount of summons she has stored, she gains attack speed. but alternatively, she can release her summons all at once, at the expense of her bonuses. there would be a cap of some sort increasing with her level and an extra bonus when its full, along with her attack speed buff being retained (possibly with even better ratios) while in proximity of the horde she summoned, but after it's all been cleared, she's properly and substantially weaker. this kind of back and forth would give a lot more dimensionality of her play and also works wonderfully into the aesthetic of "growing the presence of the void". so now she's a proper monster champ you either confront (counterjungle) to make sure she doesn't stack too much or run from for the same reason, and there's better tension since her uptime isn't 100%. it rewards the belveth player for being smart about her pathing and encourages smart objective play. having an upper limit to her stacking would also balance her out and tying it to her summons would create an interesting minigame for the enemy team where clearing out the void remora will weaken her in a fight but they need to balance it with fighting the actual champion

Hey vars, what if they took off the q reset on w? It would add a fair weakness. She either needs to wait until your dash is down, or have a teammate there to jump on the enemy.

just a thought but could they on hard cc make her q's go on cooldown kinda like yummi w that way if you play perfectly you still feel strong but if not you show your weakness

I think the main issues that stem from the champ are fundamental. She plays like no one in the skirmisher class and is more like a typical bruiser, so the way you shut her down changes to shut down a bruiser, but even then you cant cause her nature as a skirmisher makes her also have high damage. Then, her e gives her bonuse stats, but unlike Fiddle W, the only ability compareable to it, she can't be stunned out if it only knocked up, so most of the champs are already out of the picture. Then, the ones that do have a knock up are tanks who she wants to play into cause of their low damage. Her kit is antithetical to her class and counters common tactics cause the only way to counter her is to match her tempo or be better, which is hard cause she gets more free stats and damage out of Q alone than most kits in the game. The only champ that comes close to this level is Kayn, and he gets countered hard by her cause he can only play red and loses the early game cause he has no access to that form. In high elo, especially where teams will help to colapse on the enemy jungle, and in low elo, she can still do it herself cause of how toxic the base kit design is. I love some of the champs Riot August has done, but of the most recent ones hes done, none of them have been stable for the game, and Bel'veth is the worst cause shes a statstick hypercarry that gets more stats. The only solutions are to remove Q resets and make her geavily reliant on getting an ult stack to be playable, like lock out the bonuse stats behind the ultimate so if she doesn't play the fight well she looses the effective stats to play. This also makes it more skill expressive as the suicidal stat players and those that play the champ as a main ate seperated. It's not a good solution, but these are the only changes I can think of that don't change the fundamenrals of the champ.

I’m convinced that the game is now, not even trying to balance the champs, but instead adapt a a lore accurate representation of each champ, which is why someone like taliyah will never beat bel’veth

The easiest fix would be to make her dash only move in the directions it is meant to move. Diagonally in exactly the angle as shown on her icon. So it would be the following angles: -Northeast: 45' -Northwest: 135' -Southwest: 225' -Southeast: 315' That way it would at least be a bit easier to predict how she will move, while she still get's to have her multiple dashes.

Huge Bel'veth enthusiast, I think one of the best champions in the game for gameplay FEEL. That being said, she's totally off kilter in terms of balance. I have an idea for bringing her in-line with other jungle champions. Namely, she's in a class of her own; a predator jungler that can hyper-carry through farming if she so choosed. These two things should be mutually exclusive. The trait that needs to be toned down out of the two would be her early game power. During a level 1 skirmish, Q->AA->Q is just over 300% base AD damage worst case, and of course as anyone would tell you, if she can get a full Q rotation on you it's almost always a losing fight. Riot tries to balance that by having her have one of the lowest base AD values in the game, but 300% of the lowest AD value is still over any damage output of other champions at level 1. Some champs like Warwick or Trundle can outheal your damage and Rammus is still tanky enough at this point in the game with W start to fight a 1v1 level 1 invade. Graves and Kindred might be able to do it, but you get my point. Here's my solution: base form Bel'veth Q only damages Monsters and Minions. I also think base form Bel'veth Q could do reduced damage to champions and with some tweeking, you could bring that 300% AD baseline rotation down to like 175-200% AD. She'd still have some 1v1 potential if she can extend the fight to have a full Q rotation + AAs, but as it stands, the damage could be toned down. In this hypothetical, almost everything about her playstyle would be preserved, but there would be an obvious counterplay; invade her. Her ganks would still be good with W cc and Q gap closing, Mid game would be fine because Ult form Bel'veth would have her Q damage preserved, and lategame you should feel powerful split pushing. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk, make her base form Q deal reduced/no damage to champions and I think we're cooking.

the eclipse black cleaver cobo is the worst example u couldve chosen since black cleaver gives armor penetration which scales the pasive and stats from eclipse XD

I really wish Riot would just admit defeat with Belveth and other champs like her. If its not good for the game remove it and try again. Its like they dont want to rework these newer champions just because it would look embarrassing so we have to deal with poorly designed champions covered in band-aid fixes.

She is a duelist with short distance dashes. Some people don't know to avoid duelist and suck at spacing. Lee Sin, Vi and Jarvan are high mobility champions, short and conditional dashes is not "high mobility". She punishes bad players and champion with low mobility. I play true high mobility champions and somtimes the enemy Belveth doesn't land a single hit on me until min 20. I aknowledge the champion's strenght but she doesn't have to tool to catch slippery players and she goes down pretty quick if you cc her at the right time. I main jungle since s2 and has never considered Belveth in my top 5-10 threats. Short conditional dashes can't catch you if you have half brain.

One word, Versatility. I love Bel'veth for what it can do in so many situations, gives me a lot of agency in a soloque environment and way above average carry potential even for Diamond 2+ lobbies. Even though i love it, I don't think it is balanced or fair compared to most other champions. One downside of her is that the skill ceiling is quite high therefore not everyone can reap all the benefits she gives to the player.

Give her 1 dash that gains a shortened CD if it hits. Keep the refresh on her knock up

"She is the only on hit melee champion with hard cc" Nocturne hiding in the shadows..."darkneesssss"

Honestly I think they should focus her more heavily on an opportunist playstyle. Make her weaker in teamfights, and encourage her to go for picks and emphasize the voidlings for teamplay

Honestly, the on-hit items are a big part of the issue here. Noonquiver is a huge powerspike for her clearspeed. Every AS item for some reason does not just give attack speed but also a pretty substantial chunk of damage per auto. If you get 70 AD from Eclipse, your autos deal 70 on-hit damage, which is a large chunk of the items power budget and is accounted for in the items cost. If you buy Kraken or Botrk, you get a huge attackspeed boost, which allows you to apply your damage more often. The AS stat seems to be accounted for in the items cost, but the actual dps increase is just so much higher compared to "damage" items because you get speed AND damage. Belveth is just the most potent abuser of the stat, since her E applies those effects tons of times. If you think about it, any other AS champion is completely busted and feels like Exodia, once you have no lock down and they get a couple of items. What keeps the other champions in line is merely the fact that their designs are ancient. Yi, Kog, Kayle, maybe Sivir to an extent all suffer from the "we have no tools" syndrome. They provide nothing but damage, and are rather immobile stat checkers with barely any outplay potential. Belveth is a more interesting champion because she can actually react to situations and interact with opponents beyond just stat checking them. Yet, she will eventually stat check them ON TOP of being a skill expressive champion. She has too many passives for her own good. There would be no need for extra damage reduction on E and the fact that she spawns voidlings is just unnecessary.

so you mean master yi with more range, perma W, can auto during E and deal aoe true dmg when R reset is overpower?

I would delete her dash, it's new active places a coral from her ult, though they add 3 or 4 seconds of evolution state. The corals placed by her Q can stay in a spot for (2 min + attack speed% x 2 seg) before disappearing. Her ult is now on the range of Yas ult.(Slightly less) Ult is now unlocked lvl 1 and progression works like karma, however the buff from her ult only applies if the hability is tier 2 or higher (no special form until lvl 6). Her ult now makes her invulnerable during animation to damage only on tier 4 (lvl 16) intead of the beginning of the game She now feels more tactical, more fair on the early game, feels more beatlike, instead of buglike. She now needs to set up to travel 4 screens, witch enemies can predict and play arround. She now has to figure out a way to condition enemy position to make use of her ult is usefull. Kassadin and Recksai mixed, witch is what the character should have been since the beginning. Her strategy now feels like an emperor.

Do a vid about Bard ... its crazy that you havent do it yet 😅

i think increasing the q cd and removing the q refresh on w would be a good start

Her voidlings When she gets a kill on the void monsters and their team gets buff she'd take rift top, kill the top laner and hard push and its ridiculous how she can get 2 turrets so wasily off that

Personally, I would raise the cooldown of her Q dashes and lock away the the cooldown reset only until she enters her temporary“true form” when she kills Rift/Baron. To make up for this, I would increase the damage of her Q dashes to monsters so she can still wave clear earlygame.

Love that manta

Can anyone tell me what happens when kalista link to you and you as yuumi jump on her is link vasted?? Just a question i dont need to say that video is good,because it Always is

Let me guess: Infinite AS scaling, more dashes than akali, hard cc, and a stance that attacks a massive area, while also being a defensive tool?

her q should be like master yi's where its a realllllyyy long cd but lowers with aa's and if she's still strong theres more numbres they can tweak

I still find a bit annoying that, years ago, they literally removed certain jungle items (hello devourer) to avoid this power-farming since they said that they didn't like a champion to just afk-farm for 30 mins and still manage to come out of the jungle and insta-kill the whole enemy team, and then they basically brought this passive back to life in the form of this champion. LIke Vars said, the scaling itself may not be the problem, but it still baffles me about why they somehow decided to do this again thinking it was a good idea.

Ironically enough, I find it more impressive to make big outplays with relatively less tools than the opponent, than making an outplay because you can press more buttons that do more things

this is the result of "let's make the final boss of our upcoming event a playable character in the multiplayer online battle arena game!" and didn't think twice about the consequences.

Her problem is that shes a combination of two very VERY opposite classes, both hyper carry and split pusher Belveth has the potential of pentakill your whole team at late game, like Yi, but unlike him, if she has a kill now her lane is the priority because shes pushing at mark 5 with thousands of minions from her R, like Yorick So making a master Yi with the split potential of an Yorick is probably the main reason of why shes so unbalanced, those classes should NEVER combine in one, the flexibility of being capable to scale late as a DPS monster while always having a powerful push potential is beyond what every other single champion offers

should have parts of her kit locked away, but gained through stacks like syndra

Can you make a video on bilgewater?

As someone why main Bel'Veth she is totally not OP and not one of the strongest champions. But on a real note, 2 reasonable ways to nerf the champion without ruining the feeling of the champion would be: 1. Remove bonus attack speed for 2 attacks after using a ability (yes, that actually is a passive of Bel'Veth) or at least do not make it stack to 6 attacks, so that you have to play around using the auto attacks more carefully (that would increase the skill sealing, and make the champion weaker early when she more relies on this AS) 2. Make her lose some bonus AS the less dashes she has up, lets say for every cardinal direction dash she has on cooldown she has 5% less bonus AS. That would make her scaling not as strong late and using up dashes to chase would be more risky. BONUS: Rotate the dash directions by 45 degrees. Right now the dash directions are aligned with the map, so making the dashes rotated would make most chasing scenarios harder, because they would be in a odd angle. You would not be able to use 1 dash to cower max distance, instead you would be using up 2 dashes

I will not forget what they did to my boy… patch 9.13… 😢 they did pyke so dirty

I feel like they should narrow the angle in which she can dash per direction. Now she can basically dash 3 times in the same direction. By nerfing the angle you would decrease her follow and catch potential without nerfing her duelling aspect.

Well it fits her lore. Continue to thrive despite all riots nerfs. Learn , adapt, EVOLVE.

Can you do a video on Briars SEVEN STRAIGHT nerfs?

Gotta love how Bel'Veth's kit is already omega overloaded and Riot still had to let her ult spawn minions for absolutely no reason.

They should basically limit her endless attack speed passive to when she's on ult and only when she kills epic monsters, I don't see normal a bel'veth with 5.00 attack speed by the face without any punishment

Even if they can't nerf her Q, they can remove the hard CC on her E. Just make it a strong, decaying slow or something.

I think that the best way to nerf her would be to massively increase her Q's cooldown and get rid of the reset for hitting her W. This would allow them to weaken her target access without completely killing the champion.

Hell yeah, bel’veth rules

I think that the best way to nerf her will be to make the side in which you can dash smaller(like the angle so you dont have 4 90° zones but insted have like 4 60° zones so she cant basically dash 3 times in the same direction)

If they made her dashes targeted rather than how they are right now I think she would have a similar feel to Fiora, trying to find the fastest way to proc all 4 directions for max dps while being able to apply her scaling pressure, but unable to use it to get away or dodge attacks. Her identity as a sticky scaler is a missing niche in the game, but her Qs, W slow, and E damage reduction make her way too versatile and slippery.

She is probably going to go the way of azir one day when they cut out a portion of her kit and buff the other part but in the end they just gut her.

So what you're saying is she needs to be reworked? They need to nerf her q, but they can't nerf her q without breaking the champion. It means the only option is to rework her entirely, right?

Low elo lifer here. I LOVE Bel'veth so much. No matter what stage of the game you're in, she's useful and can build ANYTHING. Even if im 2/13/26 down here, a single w is all the rest of my team needs.

can you do qiyana pls?

True dmg No Attack speed cap 5 dashes Oh well... No wonder this shit was going to be unbalanceable

10:24 what about ww?

Siri and velvet might one day be the next gangplank lol, changing topic i wonder if ppl still rember azir used to have a knock up which was gutted after riot had no option but to remove it l, no matter hoe many rize situation appears through the years riot keeps repeating it over and over over.

Lol I almost forgot about Irelias 5 movement speed nerf 💀 Irelia mains defended that with their lives and said it was a huge nerf

I'm gonna be honest. She would have been a much better AP Mid laner. Can you imagine controlling a bunch of little void fish? That would be so cool!

Who could've forseen that making a champion with 5 dashes would make them broken. Truly something that could only be understood with 200 years of collective game design experience.

Bel'veth doesn't really need to kill camp or minion to gain stack as well, just deal damage in 3 sec before camp die, this is why Bel'veth is actually a perfect support.

Yeah but dispite belveth being "infinite scaling" champion she doesnt scale that much into the late game because she is a melee squishy champion, also you should take into account that she is feast or famine champion, playing belveth from behind is the worst experience. Her real strength is early and midgame.

To me the worst of belveth isn't he damage, or her tankyness, or even her dashes. It's her evasion midfight granter her regen and her stupidly OP minions. ZZrot and banner of command were destroyed because OP, Yorick's minions either die in 2 shot (and don't really push) or is the ult defining him, same for heimer, etc.. Belveth ? it's an afterthough in her kit, but is totally unpushable if you are not a sivir (in which case goodluck because she WILL get to your guts)

Bel veth support” double q in. Knock up then q out. Help out at void pit and siege top.

i LOVE this champion

The champion's design is just too toxic for me to feel bad about them removing her identity through rapid Q dashes. I would give her a CGU that shifts her into a late game scaling vanguard/juggernaut and focuses on her ability to form a swarm of remora from monsters and enemy and ally minions (increase gold values of remora to ensure enemy champions can generate the same amount of average gold that they would against normal minions). Her passive could be gaining the ability to add an additional remora to her swarm every ___ stacks, up to a limit. I think her Q could be preserved with slower dashes that allow her to direct her swarm, and her E as a "feeding frenzy" of her remora protecting their queen, but the W never really made sense thematically and her R should be a distinguished ability rather than a form change. I think the form change would work better as part of her scaling passive, kind of like Kayle's evolutions, but through stacks rather than level.

i miss old league id pay to play with season 5 champions

belveth also has a infinite scaling drawback, her attacks deal 75% of total ad and 75% onhit dmg

One of the champions of the past 200 years.

Player base: please Nerf Bel veth Riot: -5 ms, take it or leave it

Large aoe massive true dmg or something i don't know

Her infinite scaling is the best imo. Veigar with 1500 AP still needs to hit skillshots and is balanced by cooldown. Nasus is also balanced around downtime, and the fact is, it's just one ability. Senna is a little more problematic, but her early game is weak, and she may hit hard but has to constantly kite around the fight. Belveth on the other hand, has infinite AS. She wants to be in your face, thus not needing to kite around, and her main form of damage is Autoattacks, which doesn't really have any downtime.

I'll never understand why they went "yea, 70% damage reduction while gaining lifesteal and rapidly attacking seems fine."

HOW 1K + AP veigar e+w+q+r dont have guarantied kill ? i see your point to weak for engage (but wise use of e negate this too)

If you compare Belveth with Shyvana it's really hilarious to consider they are even the champions from the same game