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6 жыл бұрын

A brief history of Belfast Celtic: The team that died.
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In 1949, Belfast Celtic of Northern Ireland, ceased to exist. As part of our 'Gunshots & Goalposts' mini-series, this video details how the region's sectarian troubles led to the club's decision to dissolve.
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@robertcramb4654
@robertcramb4654 4 жыл бұрын
If only all history lessons could be made this interesting
@amityzhimo2853
@amityzhimo2853 3 жыл бұрын
It could be either you were not interested in history or your history teacher was unenthusiastic about teaching the subject. Otherwise, history classes are always interesting and will be.
@abdirizaknoor8118
@abdirizaknoor8118 3 жыл бұрын
@@amityzhimo2853 my history teacher sucks
@medicalstudybuddy2964
@medicalstudybuddy2964 6 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have a million subscribers??
@ajv4576
@ajv4576 6 жыл бұрын
how does it not have 10 million?
@peacefuldude9289
@peacefuldude9289 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@hend094
@hend094 4 жыл бұрын
Because most people dont come to youtube to be informed, they are here for entertainment
@jimmyjabs7849
@jimmyjabs7849 2 жыл бұрын
Took a while but they have done it
@medicalstudybuddy2964
@medicalstudybuddy2964 2 жыл бұрын
Hehee yea now they got the subscribers . Well deserved
@JaleelBeig
@JaleelBeig 6 жыл бұрын
0:53 guy drawn with the gun definitely looks like Cillian Murphy. Are you guys _Peaky Blinders_ fans?
@hajones10
@hajones10 6 жыл бұрын
They probably searched "Irish guy with a gun" or something haha
@mattieire
@mattieire 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's either from peaky blinders or wind that shakes the barley
@DuckSwagington
@DuckSwagington 6 жыл бұрын
Big JellyEel PEAKY FOOKIN BLINDERS
@Maniacility
@Maniacility 6 жыл бұрын
It's also definitely all of them as the group on the right. Paul Anderson (Arthur) stands out like a sore thumb!
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin994
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin994 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the first thought I had when I saw that... it's him at 1:23 as well. Can't believe so many other people noticed that!
@jackisawesomee
@jackisawesomee 6 жыл бұрын
I'm from Belfast and really didn't know too much about the history of all this, incredibly interesting! Great video.
@Jellyshroom
@Jellyshroom 6 жыл бұрын
Videos like this, are what separates this channel from the rest of the football related content on KZfaq.
@antoniocalado7101
@antoniocalado7101 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome piece, on a story I didn't know about. Good job.
@spudders9034
@spudders9034 4 жыл бұрын
For those watching Belfast Celtic FC have been reformed and took the place of Sport and Leisure Swifts FC, and currently play in the Ballymena Premier Division, 1 of the 4 leagues at the 4 division of Northern Irish football
@Beanbag777
@Beanbag777 Жыл бұрын
They should have become pro and entered the league of Ireland
@AH-be6bu
@AH-be6bu 8 ай бұрын
One of my proudest Football Manager achievements is taking over as manager and returning them to the top-flight of the Irish League.
@douglaspatrick868
@douglaspatrick868 4 жыл бұрын
Still the best video series you guys have ever done. All your videos are properly researched, professionally done, and high quality infotainment but these were just head and shoulders above. Tifo Football is the mutt's nuts son!
@vaskoyorgov968
@vaskoyorgov968 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tifo, I've learned so much about the beautiful game from this channel.
@sheepay99
@sheepay99 6 жыл бұрын
Yet again, another top notch video. Had never even heard of Belfast Celtic. Good summary.
@LumberjackFrag
@LumberjackFrag 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I love your content
@nigefal
@nigefal 6 жыл бұрын
Compliments on the accuracy of this. But was one of the 'gunman' @1:23 Cillian Murphy's fictional character Damien from the film 'The Wind that shakes the Barley' ? :D
@stujenner
@stujenner 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this, I was totally ignorant about this previously.
@sunbro9133
@sunbro9133 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video yet again.
@riverpurapasion
@riverpurapasion 6 жыл бұрын
Muy buen video!! Triste historia
@siditude78
@siditude78 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing story telling, made me emotional towards the end
@lansdorf
@lansdorf 4 жыл бұрын
Facinating history, growing up as an English kid we have been tought absolutely nothing about Ireland as though it didn't exist, also when i was young a scotsman wanted to know my religious interests and i had know idea why, this could have been dangerous for me, luckily I think he realised my naivety and didn't persu it.
@Pokephosgene
@Pokephosgene 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose Belfast Celtic fans switched over to Glasgow Celtic?
@Craig-gq4gb
@Craig-gq4gb 5 жыл бұрын
Pokephosgene Yeah thats what my grandad did
@paulritchie5868
@paulritchie5868 4 жыл бұрын
Of course,but we will not be intimidated..Hail Hail.
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot did. Many reverted to GAA and never went back
@ryanbyrne259
@ryanbyrne259 4 жыл бұрын
Wel said mate
@brazilianbhoy
@brazilianbhoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulb1912 what a prick you are.
@ivan.urrutia007
@ivan.urrutia007 6 жыл бұрын
This is sad... Amazing video btw. I loved it.
@samross2512
@samross2512 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos on Northern Ireland at the minute loving the great content
@ryanmcgrory6385
@ryanmcgrory6385 4 жыл бұрын
That's a drawing of the Lisbon lions the Glasgow Celtic team on the thumbnail, Billy McNeil, Tam Gemmell, Ronnie Simpson and John Clark are some that you can clearly make out
@streamsniper8728
@streamsniper8728 6 жыл бұрын
I just love to watch the tatics explained videos of this channel. I was wondering if you could please do the same for the famous 7-1 defeat of Brazil against Germany at the World Cup stating what were Brazil's mistakes and what they could have done about it. Hoping to see more such tactics videos in future. :)
@Tifo
@Tifo 6 жыл бұрын
Sujaan Chakraborty we are planning a World Cup build up, we can certainly put this game into the hat for consideration. Thanks for the support.
@streamsniper8728
@streamsniper8728 6 жыл бұрын
uMAXit Football Thanks for replying. This topic has kept me thinking for a long time now without a complete answer. Please see to it that you do cover this match. You may take your time. And lastly keep on doing the good work. I really appreciate it. :)
@jokarpinski22
@jokarpinski22 6 жыл бұрын
That team were unprepared for German tactics and fell apart emotionally. They thought they could go along playing their normal game, in an outdated formation that offered no threat going forward against modern European tiki-taka sides, sans Neymar, with a sub par player in his role and trying to find Fred as the target man (which had been unsuccessful throughout the tournament). Fred being unable to hold up the ball against physically superior defenders to his accustomed Brazilian domestic league counterparts. Defensively, they were completely unprepared to fill the role of Thiago SIlva, as David Luiz lacks his leadership and tactical awareness, he was asked to fill the role as field general, but was more interested in his famous dashing runs up the pitch as the "modern libero" he seems to believe in his mind he is. Leaving a vast amount of space behind and an inadequate replacement in Fernandinho to fill his spot. The velocity-challenged Dante essentially replaced David Luiz as David Luiz shifted into the Thiago Silva role. The German players were familiar with Dante, who had never impressed at Bayern, and his limits in marking and decision-making, especially in the faster paced European games. With each goal, their response was to further push forward, desperately attempting to recover a goal, leaving more space for the Germans to thread passes between the disjointed lines of their midfield and defense. After the 3rd goal, players looked to Scolari, who had no tactical response, seemingly pulling on his own hair, rubbing his bald head. The coaching staff had no one available, due to suspension or injury, able to spark the team offensively or shore up the back line. Hence, no change had been made to the team and no obvious tactical change in formation in an attempt to stop conceding before half time. The fourth goal and subsequent fifth came so quickly, exposing the same exact disorganization and unwillingness to change their marking to a more man on man system, that again neither the team nor coaching staff had any response. Their zonal system was exposed and not even the players recognized a change had been necessary. Quite possibly, Scolari had never even practiced different marking systems with the team, as he had always been so sure about his marking scheme, which had been torn apart at Chelsea and led to him losing the locker room during his brief stint in the EPL. You could see the desperation in the players body language and the coaches' inability to even attempt to continue barking orders to the players. At half time the game was over. They all knew it. Unlike Scolari's 2002 team, the 2014 team was built around 2 players, the defensive line was held and controlled by Thiago Silva and all creativity and danger had gone through Neymar before his injury. He was unable to foresee or even comprehend that he would lose his 2 key players during the tournament. Loew's plan was to move the ball quickly, hold a high line (with no Neymar, no speed in the attack) and use the willingness of the Brazilian defenders to go forward in order to expose the space behind them and the subpar defending midfielders who would replace them. The further Brazil got behind, the further they pressed up the pitch and the faster the Germans pushed their attacks. Leading up to the Cup Scolari had shown an inability to adapt in game and to offer a Plan B. That would be his undoing, as he had no one creative in the middle of the pitch (he preferred two pitbulls since Neymar was responsible for all creativity), and he left some more gifted center backs, great box-to-box midfielders and more creative attacking players at home, never once calling them in to train with his squad. Goes to show, that as a manager, even a year out of the game can leave a coach a decade behind in in game tactics.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 6 жыл бұрын
Sujaan Chakraborty David Luiz was the main culprit
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 6 жыл бұрын
John Carlos not bad
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather played for the first Celtic team to win the league, great video. As for the ending of the club, unfortunately it wasnt as straight forward as sectarianism forcing the club to leave football. That was certainly the excuse, but it wasnt the reason. I met the great Jimmy Jones a few years before he died. Jimmy returned to football after his leg break and scored plenty of goals for Glenavon. He was a protestant which angered the Linfield fans. I understand that you tried to impart as much knowledge as possible in a short video, but it was a very complex story. Great video but, go raibh mile maith agat.
@Tifo
@Tifo 6 жыл бұрын
Patsy Dorrian happy to report that this is part 1 of a 4-part series, so far more information will be imparted over the course of the next 4-weeks. Thank you for your feedback, it's genuinely appreciated.
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
uMAXit Football More than welcome, the Belfast Celtic society are there as well and theyll impart as much info as possible. If you have time, contact Pádraig Coyle, his book on the club is excellent.
@harshgorasia6501
@harshgorasia6501 6 жыл бұрын
Patsy Dorian hey Patsy, what was your grandfather's name and how old is he?
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
Harsh Gorasia Joe Dorrian, long since dead.
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Jones was at linfield before belfast celtic,linfield didn't want him,if celtic were so great,how come linfield had won more trophies, trouble followed belfast celtic were ever they went,if they were in the league today,Belfast would be a battle ground every week,linfield did have catholics on there team,it wasnt until the start of the troubles catholics wouldn't play for linfield. Cliftonville are the modern day belfast celtic,it use to be distillery before there ground was burnt down . linfield were banned from playing at solitude after the 1971 irish cup final between linfield v Ballymena, as solitude is in the middle of a Catholic area,linfield now play there,but you have to follow strict guidelines to go,you have to go to Windsor park,be a member, and travel by bus,because it's not safe to travel on your own.
@o.m.c756
@o.m.c756 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to James I for all this and what has gone/went on before and since.
@Phoneygravy
@Phoneygravy 4 жыл бұрын
2:26 hahaha "tee-shaw" I appreciate the enthusiasm. Taoiseach is pronounced "Tee-shock". Brilliant and very informative video as usual.
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 4 жыл бұрын
My great granda played on the first league winning team. Sad that the club is gone, and won't be back.
@IrishRay2006
@IrishRay2006 5 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic are soon to be reborn in the non league of Northern Irish football. Maybe one day they can rise again. They kind of live on, in spirit, with Donegal Celtic but that's it pretty much
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
It will never happen, Cliftonville are the team that catholics follow now,a new belfast celtic would need to be successful before catholics from West belfast start supporting them,donegal celtic tried,but failed. Belfast celtic grew out of the area they came from like linfield, distillery, look at Cliftonville before 1969,they did nothing, they had no support, they maybe the oldest football club in Ireland, but that's it. Distillery now play in Lisburn, they were the first club in Ireland to have floodlights, they had a great history until the start of the troubles, you don't see anyone from West belfast supporting them anymore.and they have a better history than Cliftonville.
@jimmathews5594
@jimmathews5594 3 жыл бұрын
My granda's brother played for Belfast Celtic(Bobby Ferguson). I have a nice team picture of the squad. Hard looking bunch of guys! My 90 yr. old dad gave me the pic
@travisstalford1083
@travisstalford1083 5 жыл бұрын
Wish u could be talked a bit about coleraine fc who are a northern irish team in this video they're my local team Would be been so cool but anyway nice vid👌👌
@nativegaelicwarrior8537
@nativegaelicwarrior8537 4 жыл бұрын
The red hand repersents gaelic ireland not Protestants
@SteveThePster
@SteveThePster Жыл бұрын
Great video. To go off on a tangent... it amazes me that football went on for nearly 100 years without substitutions. A player gets injured and you have to play the match with 10 men?? Insane
@bobbotheblobbo7431
@bobbotheblobbo7431 3 жыл бұрын
I wish history was formatted this way
@diogocontente3551
@diogocontente3551 5 жыл бұрын
This channel is absolutely remarcable!
@ritchie0146
@ritchie0146 6 жыл бұрын
Can we have “Glasgow Rangers: The Team that Died” next? ;)
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 6 жыл бұрын
AberdeenDailyNews 😬😂
@matthewmcgowan9000
@matthewmcgowan9000 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please 😆
@GlasgowEoin2k6
@GlasgowEoin2k6 6 жыл бұрын
oh aye getting pumped by Celtic every game and cant even get past a Luxembourg team for european football, what a show you guys put on for sure... you give everyone a great laugh
@aliorr6282
@aliorr6282 6 жыл бұрын
Glasgow2k6 What did you expect us to come up and be the superforce straight away?. Celtic have done fuck all spectacular since we left and you know it. We beat you in the semi whilst in the championship fs (right laugh that was)
@tomgordon9769
@tomgordon9769 6 жыл бұрын
won one treble in the 4 years without rangers (embarrassing considering the pay disparity in scotland), moving towards 10 in a row... do you genuinely feel proud of winning consistently in a league you are expected to win year in year out comfortably? considering rangers are going to be massive outsiders until the year they actually win it, even then celtic will be odds on favourites to win the league until the day they can (if they can) match celtics colossal wage bill...5-1 was an embarrassment as was the result in luxembourg, however recent results have proven that the football in luxembourg is not to be taken lightly, and whilst granted the result in the europa league can arguably be considered the worst result in the clubs history, it was a side caught cold who had barely been involved with each other. as for your comment regarding 'theres fuck all left for *us* to do in scottish football', it shows a massive level of disrespect and bias towards your club. both rangers and celtic are clubs steeped in history, both having dominated the game north of the border for as long as the game has existed. but to merely refer to celtic as having achieved all there is to do in the game up there just shows how blind you are. just look at the trophy room at ibrox, which currently holds more silverware than the club you clearly can't look beyond. and before you say 'aye but they died and they've never won anything' you have no excuse to do so. you are never more than a google search away from the truth, just as every footballing body has said and that only celtic fans cannot seem to wrap their heads around. as for the cup semi final, the result was monumental, regardless of the circumstance. the first time the two clubs had met for nearly half a decade, with a side costing a fraction of what liewell was paying out weekly, and they still weren't good enough. also congratulations on going so long unbeaten domestically in a system where you are expected to win every game against bit part teams in a league which is lamented globally for being so poor. the sad fact is that celtic have hit their ceiling. there is nowhere further up for them to go, realistically any time spent in europe is farcical, because you will end up bombing out at the first chance, and even if you are to make the europa league after finishing above a beleaguered anderlecht, a round of 32 elimination from the europa league beckons. rangers fans have experienced the very worst of what it is to follow football. glee and glory spells are much more often temporary than they are permanent, just be sure to prepare yourself my friend, because the run cannot go on forever, which will make it all the sweeter when it ends.
@daithiokeeffe7444
@daithiokeeffe7444 4 жыл бұрын
That's the Glasgow Celtic "Lisbon Lions" 1966/1967 European Cup Winners team you used in this. 5:06
@robbiewright9145
@robbiewright9145 4 жыл бұрын
It was a shame that Belfast Celtic had to leave the league and let's not forget Distillery who had to leave their ground as it was attacked and burned to the ground during the Troubles
@josephfriel6597
@josephfriel6597 5 жыл бұрын
The red hand has been a Gaelic Irish symbol for hundreds of years before it was hijacked.
@NoycieBrv
@NoycieBrv 5 жыл бұрын
J_Friel so was the Green and white strips before Glasgow Celtic hijacked it.
@ciaran6309
@ciaran6309 5 жыл бұрын
Its the red hand of Hugh o neill .irish cheiftain family .that was there well before the ulster plantation.
@jonnybaxter7234
@jonnybaxter7234 5 жыл бұрын
Hijacking the red hand of ulster is a bit extreme. People just get easily offended. Political point scoring. It's a symbol for all to be proud of our country. Am I right in saying some youth team is trying to adopt the Belfast Celtic name?
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
A bit like saint patricks day hijacked by republicans.
@johndevlin4318
@johndevlin4318 4 жыл бұрын
David Willis how is it hijacked?
@TheVanpablo79
@TheVanpablo79 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing more foul than a Linfield fan.
@ewanstuart6586
@ewanstuart6586 6 жыл бұрын
Another interesting club that died...or murdered by their chairman was Third Lanark in Glasgow. Their stadium is now a park and you can still see bits of the old terracing.
@tripzville7569
@tripzville7569 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes thank you for reminding me of Third Lanark.
@user-lz3rw4im2v
@user-lz3rw4im2v 6 жыл бұрын
What a fuckin video this is, is right fellas cant wait for the next few x
@robbiewright9145
@robbiewright9145 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing one on Distillery FC, Belfast?
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Distillery the forgotten team,ground burnt down by there own fans,had to play at crusaders Seaview, now play in Lambeg just outside Lisburn
@robbiewright9145
@robbiewright9145 4 жыл бұрын
@@hotredhandluke1 Burnt out by their own fans, really?
@lfclegendunluckyyylucas7275
@lfclegendunluckyyylucas7275 6 жыл бұрын
Former LFC great goalkeeper Elisha Scott once played for Linfield before he went on to play for LFC for 22 year's. Then when he retired in the game he became Belfast Celtic FC manager and won league titles for them when they where challenging league titles with Linfield.
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
LFC Legend Unluckyyy Lucas He played for them too.
@lfclegendunluckyyylucas7275
@lfclegendunluckyyylucas7275 6 жыл бұрын
Patsy Dorrian I know mate Elisha Scott was probably best Gk in his career.
@davidcolley7714
@davidcolley7714 5 жыл бұрын
Elisha Scott had an injured back due to the fact that he had to keep bending to pick the ball out of net after Everton's Dixie Dean scored yet against him
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
At last a football fan who does know his history, welldone
@frankhumbug
@frankhumbug 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Tifo have done follow up posts to this and I'm sure people in northern Ireland know this already but for any one else interested, I looked up Belfast Celtic on Google and quite recently in the news a team called Sport and Leisure Swifts in a joint move with Donegal Celtic are to become a team called Belfast Celtic. Does anyone know much about this?
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes,there have been a few teams over the years that have used the name celtic,donegal celtic,Lurgan celtic,as it is for Glasgow celtic, a Catholic football club,check out linfield v donegal celtic,a club that got about 100 people at there games took 4,000 to Windsor park,followed by a riot.thats what belfast celtic would bring to the irish league
@smsflemingsf
@smsflemingsf 4 жыл бұрын
My grandad used to support Belfast Celtic. He's now 90.
@calumchurch3249
@calumchurch3249 4 жыл бұрын
smsflemingsf does he support glasgow celtic now?
@smsflemingsf
@smsflemingsf 4 жыл бұрын
@@calumchurch3249 Honestly I don't think he does. He stated that he only ever supported one team and it was Belfast Celtic. He's not much of a football fan anyway. More boxing and pigeon fancying 😁. I support Glasgow Celtic however 🇮🇪
@calumchurch3249
@calumchurch3249 4 жыл бұрын
smsflemingsf i do too. hail hail🍀
@sahibbhadal
@sahibbhadal 2 жыл бұрын
Are you from Ireland cus if so would you support Belfast Celtic instead of Glasgow
@smsflemingsf
@smsflemingsf 2 жыл бұрын
@@sahibbhadal yeah, probably.
@boldbhoy67
@boldbhoy67 6 жыл бұрын
Can we not just say it was just a holding company that died, and that clubs can't really die? It can be almost true if we get enough to keep repeating it.
@seanbhoy493
@seanbhoy493 6 жыл бұрын
The red hand is not a protestant symbol
@shanegallagher6916
@shanegallagher6916 5 жыл бұрын
They’re stupid enough to think it is
@1989Chrisc
@1989Chrisc 5 жыл бұрын
It goes back long before the english came to ireland. Its origins and meaning is unknown but dates back to pagan times
@seanocuinn6031
@seanocuinn6031 5 жыл бұрын
Hello there Sean, could you possibly please refer me to a source where it states the red hand of Ulster is a symbol of Catholicism? I mean, by you using "not a protestant symbol" you must be stating it is a symbol of Catholicism, and if so, Id very much appreciate if you could back this claim up, would it be possible to find red hands of ulster carved within the walls of the Vatican by any chance?
@seanocuinn6031
@seanocuinn6031 5 жыл бұрын
@@shanegallagher6916 and you're rather stupid enough to believe the troubles is a solely matter of Protestants Vs Catholics. Please seek an education Emmet, you might learn something.
@shanegallagher6916
@shanegallagher6916 5 жыл бұрын
Sean Ó Cuinn I havent stated anywhere the troubles where solely a catholic and protestant conlfict nor has anyone stated it is a catholic symbol
@efeambroseenthusiast180
@efeambroseenthusiast180 4 жыл бұрын
My great great grandfather played for them as a goalkeeper, he wasn’t even 5’5!
@danielplayfair3596
@danielplayfair3596 4 жыл бұрын
Do one on glentoran
@adamclark8832
@adamclark8832 3 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic has now reformed
@galoglaich3281
@galoglaich3281 2 жыл бұрын
This only happens in football in northern ireland because its the only team sport that both sections of the community play,it wouldn't happen in GAA sports Gaelic football and hurling or rugby for example though less so in rugby,because they are largely confined to one section of the community less so rugby ,but the GAA is almost exclusively played by catholics.
@baileygawa755
@baileygawa755 5 жыл бұрын
Good video anyone a crusader fan
@sherifapampa8977
@sherifapampa8977 6 жыл бұрын
😢
@josephmaxwell5033
@josephmaxwell5033 4 жыл бұрын
Why have the Lisbon Lions highlighted and not mention the connection?
@33m3c
@33m3c 5 жыл бұрын
Why are you using the red hand as a proddy symbol? its not at all.
@33m3c
@33m3c 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack The Film Fanatic no shit dumbass
@tomcreaniceman7426
@tomcreaniceman7426 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ i never even knew this
@peacefuldude9289
@peacefuldude9289 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Violence can go too far sometimes
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 5 жыл бұрын
This is proper history. I'm not Irish or British but I hope Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland can unite and become 1 strong peaceful nation after reconciliation which in my opinion they should be. I'm sure the hatred for the Queen and imperialism will fade from the South once Britain leave the Northern shores of Ireland. The national football team and club football would benefit too there.
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack The Film Fanatic I totally would understand the fears of the North, especially when there will always be a small but noticable number of dickheads who'll over celebrate unity by causing trouble and overwhelming the Ulster men with intimidation which could spark danger in the streets again.
@eoinh1
@eoinh1 4 жыл бұрын
Derry City had to leave the irish league as well. They actually play now in the league of Ireland
@_CrissoN
@_CrissoN 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Shelby at 0:57
@h3nder
@h3nder 6 жыл бұрын
Wow...I mean imagine if Rangers fans would break a leg of a Celtic player because he is a Protestant ....
@pphyjynx8217
@pphyjynx8217 6 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't since celtic fans are catholic
@h3nder
@h3nder 6 жыл бұрын
I mean as in if a Protestant player from Glasgow plays for them Ranger fans wouldn't beat him up...
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
A celtic goalkeeper was killed in a Rangers v celtic game,I have been to many old firm games,and there is trouble after everyone of them,the difference between Scotland and Northern Ireland is,the Scottish think of football as a profitable business, thats why football in northern Ireland is part time
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Most of celtics best players were Rangers fans,Kenny Dalglish, Danny mcgrain, alfie conn and mo Johnstone played for both clubs
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Glasgow celtic goalkeeper John Thomas was killed in an old firm game when he got kicked in the head,the Rangers team was assaulted by hibs fans after a recent Scottish cup final,James tavernier was assaulted by a hibs fan at easter road last season.
@killercaos123
@killercaos123 6 жыл бұрын
Heavy.
@Kelly14UK
@Kelly14UK 4 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic for the Win. Guys got bullied out. They were the best. Jimmy Jones just wanted to play football.
@jimibhoy8935
@jimibhoy8935 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there was a lot more going on than stated in the video, good as it is. Referees were allowing serious violent play against Belfast Celtic, without consequence. I.E. allowing other teams to assault players on the park.
@marchmadnessrecaps5
@marchmadnessrecaps5 6 жыл бұрын
someone should restart the team
@DimetriKhan
@DimetriKhan 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that Northern Ireland is ready for that yet.
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
Harry Strong The north of Ireland. Wont happen anyways. Firstly, the fan base has since turned to either Celtic or the GAA. And secondly, there would be nowhere for the club to return to as the grounds are long since a supermarket
@bobharper5325
@bobharper5325 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be silly mate of course it is.
@reecebailie9120
@reecebailie9120 6 жыл бұрын
There's a club called Belfast Celtic Young Men that was founded in 2013, same badge (roughly)
@padraigodeorain9966
@padraigodeorain9966 6 жыл бұрын
Buk Lau Great group of lads, had the pleasure of training with them a few times, but im a crap footballer. They are a credit to the community of West Belfast.
@kylequincy1761
@kylequincy1761 6 жыл бұрын
Over in Scotland the protestant team recently died
@Jamie-kv9eg
@Jamie-kv9eg 5 жыл бұрын
kyle quincy it’s all about the rangers
@elainemckay6725
@elainemckay6725 5 жыл бұрын
kyle quincy ya feen
@kevinjackson292
@kevinjackson292 5 жыл бұрын
Rangers still exist ...
@NoycieBrv
@NoycieBrv 5 жыл бұрын
Rangers aren’t Protestant.
@williamoneswhannell1060
@williamoneswhannell1060 5 жыл бұрын
Rangers are protestant. HH ten in a row. Cause it's a Grand auld team to play for.
@liamcosgrave2937
@liamcosgrave2937 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought John Costello would pop up in a football video
@StasysYT
@StasysYT 5 жыл бұрын
1:00 - the drawings are of tommys lot from peaky blinders XD
@indiekiddrugpatrol3117
@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone dressed like that back then
@kierandoodykd
@kierandoodykd 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing Traitors call somebody a traitor
@OminiElemental
@OminiElemental 5 жыл бұрын
Sport & Leisure were trying to rename this season to Belfast Celtic I think. Guess that got blocked somewhere down the line.
@flyboyking4114
@flyboyking4114 6 жыл бұрын
So seeing how it the Celtic/Rangers Derby Celtic is the supports the Republic of Ireland and Irish Independence and Rangers the crown/UK parliament dose Celtic have any roots or fans transplant in their selves from Belfast Celtic to the Scottish Celtic ?
@TehEqoze
@TehEqoze 6 жыл бұрын
It's actually the other way around, Celtic FC were formed before Belfast Celtic. The name Belfast Celtic is taken from Celtic FC. www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Belfast+Celtic Belfast Celtic's aim was to "imitate their Scottish counterparts in style, play and charity".
@flyboyking4114
@flyboyking4114 6 жыл бұрын
RossKC no what I am asking is the reason Celtic's fans base is so pro-Irish and Catholic is it because the fact after Belfast dissolved those fans went back to support Celtic
@TehEqoze
@TehEqoze 6 жыл бұрын
No, lots of Irish immigrants have moved to Scotland (including my family and many others). Celtic was formed to raise funds and feed the poor (majorly Irish Catholic) in Glasgow's East End. It then became the club for Irish immigrants in Glasgow (like Hibernian in Edinburgh). Celtic FC and Belfast Celtic were good friends and shared supporters though.
@duneideannaer5990
@duneideannaer5990 6 жыл бұрын
I have a problem here though, why isn’t the Belfast Catholics not denoted with the red hand? And also against a yellow background, well now, that’s offensive. Apart from that minor discrepancy, lovely little video cheers
@JMc-ki7kq
@JMc-ki7kq 6 жыл бұрын
the red hand never has represented Ulster, the reason it is on the Ulster province flag is to represent the O'Neill clan, unionists seem to think it was a symbol of Ulster and renamed it the red hand of Ulster, history gone mad.
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
The red hand with a yellow background on a plaque, is the provincial flag of ulster,the flag that represents the 9 countries of ulster,the white background flag with the Queens crown,represents the 6 county province of northern Ireland, it's not offensive to protestants.
@merlinbotha363
@merlinbotha363 4 жыл бұрын
WW2 happening Irenland's: Footy
@sheilo8232
@sheilo8232 3 жыл бұрын
we werent part of the war our taoiseach stayed neutral so we just acted as tho nothin was going on
@williambolton4698
@williambolton4698 4 жыл бұрын
The team, like Glasgow Celtic (1888), were formed by Irish republican catholics, for Irish republican catholics in a time of great sectarian tensions in Ireland and Scotland. Its a bit like a Shia football team being formed in Riyadh or a Sunni team being formed in Tehran. The formation of such a teams was bound to cause tensions. I'm not trying to back one side or the other but this film is very biased. It would have the world believe that the team was bullied to death by vile Protestants. This was the time of the first world war, the irish rebellion, the irish civil war, the partition of Ulster and world war two (remember, Ireland was one of only two counties in the world that sent an official telegram to Germany offering Ireland's sorrow to the German government on the death of Adolf Hitler). So, you forgot to mention the context which, in this case is absolutely vital. Here in Glasgow, even to this day, people are being killed and horribly injured after Celtic v Rangers matches all in the name of irish sectarian rivalry that harks back to the 17th century! This film is commenting on social, political and religious problems that generations of UK politicians have been too cowardly to tackle and yet you speak about it in a simplistic way and try to imply blame to one community. Here in the west of Scotland, we have separate schools for catholics and protestants. We have Irish republican bands parading in the streets of Glasgow followed by parades a week later by the Orange Lodge. We recently had smoke bombs, violence in the streets and priests being spat at all because of sectarianism. The film needs a bit of political balance.
@martytu20
@martytu20 6 жыл бұрын
Get rid of religion and people are still going to find reasons to fight "IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY SCIENCE"
@tiberiusw1193
@tiberiusw1193 5 жыл бұрын
martypython not really coz science is one thing all following the scientific method the problem with religion is all religions believe that they and only they are right were in science one will be proven until it is disproven
@francismadden8561
@francismadden8561 5 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic thrashed Scotland on their tour in America.
@09weenic
@09weenic 4 жыл бұрын
So what ?
@gardimonkh-ochir9221
@gardimonkh-ochir9221 6 жыл бұрын
Wait Red Cards were back then?
@johnc916
@johnc916 4 жыл бұрын
Gardi Mönkh-Ochir no but there went sent offs
@ACM-sp1gh
@ACM-sp1gh 4 жыл бұрын
Religion has no place in the world nevermind football. Gives people a reason to fight over pointless matters
@coisty52
@coisty52 4 жыл бұрын
why are the players in the drawings glasgow celtic players?
@lucaswr1972
@lucaswr1972 4 жыл бұрын
I am a rival fan of Linfield and I hate them cuz they don’t stop winning fucking leagues (53 titles and I support Crusaders FC)
@trancemadmaz
@trancemadmaz 4 жыл бұрын
1 day, Belfast Celtic will win the champions league
@charlietassi4843
@charlietassi4843 4 жыл бұрын
Ngl by the title I thought it was fans with guns killing the whole team
@torquemada3273
@torquemada3273 4 жыл бұрын
Linfield shat it from Belfast Celtic😄😄😄
@torquemada3273
@torquemada3273 4 жыл бұрын
@Karl Wilson Aye yer maw....The great Belfast Celtic were forced out of football in the north by the sectarian forces of that plastic state because they couldn't handle BC's successes....and look what became of football there without the famous Hoops !!!
@torquemada3273
@torquemada3273 4 жыл бұрын
@Karl Wilson Aye yir maw again😆😄😆
@jamieizdaman
@jamieizdaman 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make one about 1983 at the Baseball Ground when Derby fans spilled onto the pitch and attacked the Fulham players?
@sahibbhadal
@sahibbhadal 2 жыл бұрын
Up the rams
@shelleywelly83
@shelleywelly83 3 жыл бұрын
Huh I thought George best played for them in late stage of career
@MRJamesAfton
@MRJamesAfton 3 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic are back
@barmanitan
@barmanitan 4 жыл бұрын
Line the recognition for NI!
@barmanitan
@barmanitan 4 жыл бұрын
(Even if it's not great recognition...)
@johnnyringo4998
@johnnyringo4998 4 жыл бұрын
Well made video but the minute you use the red hand of Ulster to depict a protestant identity you expose your lack of research. There are lots of symbols that uniquely represent loyalists, the red hand is not one of them. Loyalists use the red hand (often with the crown of England placed on top) to show their dominion over those who originally invented it.
@johnnyringo4998
@johnnyringo4998 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack The Film Fanatic Did you know that the symbol was invented solely to establish political bragging rights by the native people of the province (9 counties not 6). Any attempt to rewrite the history of us Gaels is unwelcome.
@pac8827
@pac8827 6 жыл бұрын
lol I live in Northern Ireland and people in the comments talking shit no nothing about the problems in NI
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I know what you mean,I was at a linfield v Cliftonville game at Windsor park, and there was a handgranade thrown,at the time I thought it was a banger,did realise until I got home and it was on the news,lol
@johndevlin4318
@johndevlin4318 4 жыл бұрын
Most Protestant Unionists in Northern Ireland don’t even know their own history so they don’t know shit either.
@TetinKlimente
@TetinKlimente 6 жыл бұрын
Do one on Glentoran, please.
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Glentoran lol,they have no history, Vienna cup,draw against juventus,there,thats the history of glentoran.
@Daviebhoy25cfc
@Daviebhoy25cfc 3 жыл бұрын
That Religion and the Historic Political issues moved from Eireland to Glasgow and West Central Scotland in the early 1800s and has never been fixed.
@jimibhoy8935
@jimibhoy8935 2 жыл бұрын
That's because 33% of the Irish immigrants were Ulster protestants, who brought their flutes and drums and attitudes with them. They wanted a team that they could support and chose Rangers. Because they all lived in Govan and had good jobs in the shipyards. Hence the anti catholic signing policy, and hatred. Prior to that both teams and their fans had a very good relationship. Finally the police and judicial system are addressing the issue, begining to anyway. Everyone except the SFA condemns the sectarian poison. Because the SFA are historically guilty of the same behaviour and attitudes.
@Daviebhoy25cfc
@Daviebhoy25cfc 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimibhoy8935 Spot on mate. There are less and less ''staunch'' personality's in positions of power and influence, but still enough to cause some trouble, and with Society in the West/Central areas of Scotland now joining the modern world of 2021. A large number of Bears are becoming more angry that it's not still 1872. Sectarianism is NOT a two Club/sets of fans issue. It is and always has been a one Club and one set of fans issue. Every time this bigotry is brought up in debate within Scottish Football media/journalism, they always, without exception, bring Celtic into the discussion because they cannot just come clean and criticise the rangers publicly, hold them to account or they'll feel wrath of the hidden hand and lose their gig.
@jimibhoy8935
@jimibhoy8935 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daviebhoy25cfc 100% on the money Davie. It's institutional, always has been. Glasgow was the perfect city for the 33% of Irish immigrants. Before the famine there were only around 20 Catholics living in Glasgow. There were around 34 anti catholic organisations within the city. Not anti Irish, anti Catholic. Incredible!! So Glasgow was just the right kind of place, where their hatred would be nourished, encouraged and protected. Changed days indeed, and you can hear the kicking and screaming loud and clear. "Culture" change, very much required. Maybe they should start going to museums, art galleries and the opera, instead of hating.
@hinrei1986
@hinrei1986 5 жыл бұрын
Before football is a mature sport
@VenomousSpyro
@VenomousSpyro 4 жыл бұрын
Football is a mature sport? Is that why so many players lay on the ground crying after a tap on the shoulder? I know your comment is 8 months old.
@RyanRnr
@RyanRnr Жыл бұрын
They reformed
@Finn_Lawless
@Finn_Lawless 4 жыл бұрын
2:26 Taoiseach is pronounced like the words 'tea' and 'shook', not "Teeshaw".
@nocunoct
@nocunoct 6 жыл бұрын
I can imagine everyone in the comments tipping their fedoras as they insult religion. Learn to read and to listen before saying anything. You people barely know anything about sectarianism in Ireland and that's why you immediately go for religion as the "root of all problems". It's much more than that.
@stephenflannigan2198
@stephenflannigan2198 4 жыл бұрын
nocunoct "You people"?
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 4 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the ego, haste and smugness of an Atheist. Just remind them of the Soviets, and they'll piss off. Advice from an Atheist such as myself. Though I was raised Catholic.
@bernardobastos5996
@bernardobastos5996 4 жыл бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 "Never underestimate the ego, haste and smugness of an Atheist" If I had to bet I'd say it comes from not believing in superstitions that have brought thousands of years of misery.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 4 жыл бұрын
@@bernardobastos5996, It actually comes from pure ego and the holier than thou attitude of not believing in anything spiritual. And the inept notion that being an Atheist makes you in any way, shape or form, either special or dare I say it, "enlightened". In reality, Atheism can be just as, if not more authoritarian than any form of Agnosticism, Deism or any oppressive and backwards religion, be it monotheistic, like Christianity, Islam and Judaism, or polytheistic, like Hinduism and Shintoism. As one man would summarise "You're all as bad as eachother!".
@bernardobastos5996
@bernardobastos5996 4 жыл бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 "Spiritual"... or in other words, complete and utter nonsense. Even disregarding the fact that Atheism and religious belief are completely different ideologies and cannot be compared, this is not about being special or superior. Nobody is a better person for having two legs, but a handicapped individual is still handicapped. Same goes for religion. No atheist is the superior human simply for being an atheist but one sure as hell is pathetic for believing in primitive man's attempt to justify what they did not understand. Even more so when such belief is the core of cruelty. Honestly it's embarrassing that religion is still so adhered to by the human race. Human history already proved that religion is a cancer. Religious groups will develop schisms and infighting even while being persecuted by other religious groups. Religious faith is belief in the absence of evidence and it does far more harm than good. Enough said.
@basedscotsman8142
@basedscotsman8142 4 жыл бұрын
That is the Royal Navy flag not the Northern Irish flag.
@Moragothscherry
@Moragothscherry 4 жыл бұрын
WalnutCSGO Yes it does-
@sheilo8232
@sheilo8232 3 жыл бұрын
Amethиst its not an official flag it's complicated
@serkankaratepe9305
@serkankaratepe9305 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully Jack Grealish, Paul McShane and Declan Rice didn't live in that era.
@TheBlaert
@TheBlaert 5 жыл бұрын
Ah good old loyalist/Unionist bigotry. Rest of the world is pretty blind to what Irish Catholics have had to endure for years. The tide is turning though
@1882mick
@1882mick 4 жыл бұрын
So that's the best you can do? What about the Celtic fans going to Grosvenor park when the glens and blues were playing and starting trouble? Take off your victim tinted glasses Celtic fans were far from blameless
@dianestewart7178
@dianestewart7178 4 жыл бұрын
Aye and the world has had to endure your evil fkin church
@oscarsoto-kelly8285
@oscarsoto-kelly8285 4 жыл бұрын
@@dianestewart7178 Jesus Diane calm down only a footie video
@dianestewart7178
@dianestewart7178 4 жыл бұрын
Ok😁
@TastySandwich100
@TastySandwich100 4 жыл бұрын
Two way street, neither side is innocent
@TomRiddle-hn2qz
@TomRiddle-hn2qz 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being called "traitor" by wannabe english irishmen 😔
@user-yr7mf3fr3e
@user-yr7mf3fr3e 3 жыл бұрын
Not as bad as Celtic, wannabe Irish Brits
@roryscottish8053
@roryscottish8053 5 жыл бұрын
Belfast Celtic beat Scotland in a friendly . Celtic and rangers have lots of fans in Northern Ireland . It would be good to have some cross border cups between Too division sides In Scotland, Wales , England and both Irish leagues . Like an improved version of the irn bru cup.
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
There is a cup,the Scottish challenge cup
@hotredhandluke1
@hotredhandluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh belfast celtic did beat Scotland, but they lost the next game to a part time Swedish side,not much news about that
@Bulelengman
@Bulelengman 6 жыл бұрын
That strong supporter base with a lot stupid people inside is killing the game.
@josephfriel6597
@josephfriel6597 5 жыл бұрын
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