Morten this is what I so luv about your channel, you aren't afraid to do things differently than most viewers, you could have just did pictures and talked, but no you went through the extra mile to show not just the differences among tables, but digital as well, way to go Morten, way to go. I did something similarly this month with a Denon DP3000ne, Technics SL1200GR and a VPI Classic and even though the two direct drive tables had similar drive, especially in the bass region, they sounded different with the Denon being smoother and the Technics being brighter. The VPI Classic has the better arm and detail retrieval was better overall. I wanted to know especially since the Denon uses a different power supply, similar in design to the updated Technics SL1200GR2. The Denon is more neutral and warm. Cartridge used so far between all three is the Hana ML. It is just amazing how different, even with the same music, turntables can sound.
@stjernholmreviews2 ай бұрын
Yes, it is quite fun finding out the best combination you like. I also found the technics sounding a bit brighter, but also a bit "faster" and "tighter" on the dynamics, where the Yamaha table was warmer og more laidback sounding. What you like, must be up to you. Both sounds great to me. Keep experimenting and let us know what you learn!
@emonteirobr2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. After listening to the files, I'm for the Technics hands down, even over the Tidal version.
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
I was quite surprised by the difference, too. One of the great things about turntables i think! How would you describe their sound profiles on the track I used?
@JMAudioEditions2 жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews the tack is not a great track to use since its synthesized piano - would like real wood and drums or real singers
@phonatic2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning 78rpm, which is a turntable core feature for me. Have the SL-1200GR and really like it a lot. I do admit, the Yamaha looks stunning, though.
@brianoreilly80002 жыл бұрын
A big thank you for such a comprehensive review. I also appreciated the fact that you did not 'sit on the fence' I have downloaded the sample files and look forward to playing them on my much more modest (Yamaha CR 2020) system
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment. Let us know what you think!
@technics-n-thuiast8346 Жыл бұрын
As a Technics fan, I must say Pioneer looks amazing! Just WOW!!! What an amazing machine! No doubt that direct drive has advantages, yet in a room environment when one is just to enjoy the music, Pioneer probably has more to offer
@mauricioquimas2622 Жыл бұрын
Pioneer?
@technics-n-thuiast8346 Жыл бұрын
@@mauricioquimas2622 Yamaha, lapsus linguae 🫢….
@joachimmagnusson31282 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison
@JohnDoe-rn3jy Жыл бұрын
bass and low end was noticeable better with the 1200G. Also was more silent than the GT-5000. I downloaded and clickrepaired both tracks and the program removed more clicks and pops on the GT-5000 track than the 1200G one. The GT-5000 has a more airy sound. I have the original GT-2000, a direct drive unit, with an upper 3 kg copper mat, it sounds really nice. Thinking about adding an external power supply, which is supposed to increase the performance even more. I was wondering how it would compare against the GT-5000, but now after this comparison, I'm wondering if it'll better than the 1200G. I find the sound presentation of the latter very appealing...
@stjernholmreviews Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Thank you for watching the channel! Yes, it is very interesting that two good turntables using the came cartridge and amp can sound so different. There is really a big difference in the character. I definitely found the SL-1200G to sound "tighter" and "faster" overall, but I also like the added "fatness" of the GT-5000. There is definitely records that would sound their best on one or the other. 🙂. If you make some of the modifications to your GT-2000 (did not know it was direct drive!) please share what you learned here!
@a3marketing9912 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and just what I was looking for. Thank you.
@attrktmarketing4582 Жыл бұрын
Great review thanks. I would have loved to hear your take on the comparison between the 3 different sources. Really like your videos - please can we have some more?
@stjernholmreviews Жыл бұрын
That was on purpose. I am interested in learning too. So I asked for your comments, and kept my own for myself to not cloud anyones judgement. The files are there to listen to in the spirit of "just listen". In regards to new turntable videos, then I have a couple in mind, that could make some interesting comparisons. But all good things takes time 😄. For the record, I found the Technics to be more "my kind" of sound. It sounded faster and more neutral to me in its presentation. The GT-5000 was cozy and musical sounding, a bit more laid back, with more warmth and a fatter, but less defined low end. The digital presentation became a bit lifeless in comparison in all its correctness.
@attrktmarketing4582 Жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews yes I saw that and I can understand how you have done this. I was thinking a nice follow up video with your review to compare your thoughts with viewers. Could be fun. Love what you’re doing. Mike
@quinto345 ай бұрын
Wow, well done, thanks! What headshell is used on the Technics?
@stjernholmreviews5 ай бұрын
I believe it was a Audio Technica standard shell.
@JMAudioEditions2 жыл бұрын
very nice for me the Yamaha had better bass and dynamics drum strikes sounded most real but timing sounded off compared to the Roon, the Roon was obviously clean and quieter - homogenized sound tho - the Technics was the worst of the 3 - sounding like a mix of the two with record noise and pops boring sounding and for me sounded off timing wise the system sounded off with Technics even though its quartz locked for me it sounded off timing wise as well - I wonder if you can comment -
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Baas_Fumani2 жыл бұрын
Been missing you 😘. Please review the lyngdorf tdai 3400
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. These things take time, thats why new videos come up months apart :-) The TDAI-3400 is in the pipeline, and will be a part of a bigger Lyngdorf "thing" exploring their products further.
@Baas_Fumani2 жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews i hope they include the mp-60 2.1 AV Processor
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@Baas_Fumani it will.
@dennisschnobrich92882 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the straight tone arm cause more tracking error? Why are most tone arms offset anyway?
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dennis and thank you for watching the channel! The straight arm gives potentially better tracking, but with the theoretical sacrifice of absolute phase, that will "drift" a tiny bit over the cause of the playback. (not in video) I actually tested both turntables with the same high quality cartridge using a test record. Both tables was capable of sustaining 70 Microns tracking with no problem and no audible distortion, and 80 microns with a little audible distortion. At 90 microns they both cant stay in the groove. 🙂. To do that, interestingly, - it requires a DJ style cartridge, running at 4 grams+ tracking force.
@agx502 Жыл бұрын
Its a strange concept no offset angle for the cartridge. Probably gonna work well with the DL103R and its spherical stylus.
@BO-kh1iz8 ай бұрын
Both turntables are awesome. But I want to have an improved Technics SL-1500C (or SL-100C) on the same quality level as the 1200G. I prefer the cleaner look without the "DJ" Features.
@stjernholmreviews8 ай бұрын
Agree.. You may look forward to next year, where I will do a complete Technics showdown, comparing the 1000, 1200GR2, The MK7(DJ model) and the 100C/1500C.
@BO-kh1iz8 ай бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews Nice! Thanks for all the good videos this year, really looking forward for more to come.
@REX4340 Жыл бұрын
Great capture! What is that professional recorder?
@stjernholmreviews Жыл бұрын
Its a Tascam DA-3000.
@REX4340 Жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews Thanks! Would be great to record other sources like the streamer shootout. Really helpful.🙏🙏
@Skyshakerrrr2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha has more resolution just more of it more vibrant.
@stjernholmreviews Жыл бұрын
Skyshakerrr, are you still out there? I was expecting you to take part on this one! ;-). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrlznMKfmrCboKc.html
@markvelber86642 жыл бұрын
Delicious material ? I never heard of it, Delicious food yes 👍.
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
🙂 Thanks, Mark. English is not native to me, so expect a some "new" language.
@markvelber86642 жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews this isn’t a big issue of a language here however you should have mention here, when you do review the turntable by telling us, it is a semiautomatic or fully automatic turntable or not? What type of a recommendation for the cartridge to go with this turntable etc. thanks
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@markvelber8664 Sorry for late reply. Your comment was flagged as spam for no apparent reason? Both the turntables are manual, which is usually always the case with high end turntables, where you dont want any "additional" mechanics. Simple is good, remember? 🙂. Both players can accommodate a wide selection of cartridges, as they are highly adjustable, and has a selection of counterweights. Yamaha recommends the Ortofon Cadenza Black as a good choice.
@gerardopadilla43932 жыл бұрын
Wich one do you like best when it comes to sound quality?
@stjernholmreviews2 жыл бұрын
Witch one did YOU like the best? I think it is very much about the music. When listening to say, Diana Krall, I liked the GT5000 the best. Its warmer, but also a little bit more "fluffy". The Technics seems more tight, punchy and dare i say it "calm"? I find both very good in the top end with the used Ortofon Cardenza black Cartridge. The recording itself is a bit harsh in the top, but both sound "right" to me.
@gerardopadilla43932 жыл бұрын
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you
@tanner79812 ай бұрын
I prefered the Yamaha. Much more dynamic.
@stjernholmreviewsАй бұрын
I found the SL to sound "faster" like it has a tighter transient response, with the Yamaha sounding bigger, fuller, warmer. So interesting.
@JohnDoe-rn3jy Жыл бұрын
Hi, How good is the phono stage on it? Good enough to not buying a separate one? Thinking seriously about buying one, but if I'll do it I'll be run out of money to add an external phono preamp worthy of a cartridge around 2K. Any advice will be appreciated. Kind regards