Ben, love your stuff, but I think you oversimplify Christianity. CS Lewis advised new Christians not to trust fleeting feelings of spirituality, and to start acting Christian in order to build up your faith.

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Russell Brand is a fullblown freemason. He belongs to the esoteric Hollywood elite. He's not who you think he is.

When u truly believe in a value system and religion and if u test these values and it bears fruits and people say " wow I see light in this person" and wow he's a true chrsitian. He helps at food banks all the time and prays for people and sometimes they are healed.. for example I was healed after a 2 yr bout of long covod . Had Wuhan. Strain 1/2020. 6 montj later at 40 urs old healthy had a blood clot in lung didn't know. It dislodged and hit my brain from lung!! Very painful and forgot how to do everything and couldn't speak well, cognition was terrible. I was also swelling up all over hands feet,upper moutj,stomach ,kidneys,about every 14 days where ir was soooo painful and I went to Yale new haven and I had a lot of blood vessel damage from the spike protein replicating causing all that swelling etx and flareups.. they didn't have Amy regeneron or anything then .. 2021 my blood pressure went tp 240/165 for maybe 2 months. My left eye popped it felt like and I went blind for 3 says couldn't take 10 steps!! I was exhausted. I wasn't understanding what pple were saying and it was coming out funny like slurring I was told . I had a stroke .I had an anointed pastor pray over me and after 2 yra od suffering the pain went away ampmost instantly.. I started getting my cognition back ,I could walk for an hour now no problem just a few weeks after versus 10 steps and being in bed!! I started to cook and clean and helped at this rescue mission where I lived cuz I lost everything cuz I was unable to care for self and my mother just passed of cancer . So I lost my condo,car,job and taxes lapsed on house. Head gasket went in car 08 Honda accord . My room mate overheated whole I was in hospital.. he had to take my lil sister to store in snowstorm and amassed it up!! So I started to cook for 100 pple a day in need and clothing the homeless and passing out clothes to those in need at our donation sites!! Started studying Bible and doing Greek Hebrew translations on old testament and having conversations with classes of 20 to 30 pple . We read a boll battlefield of the mind by Joyce Meyer. Read return of the gods by Jonathan cahn.. i also had a friend at the mission who had a soot the size of quarter on lung and asked me to rosy 4 him .. I did at stop shop and he said he felt like a electrical shock !! I saw him at church last Wednesday and he was going to get thos cancer soot removed!! They were getting ready to go in and it was GONE!! So I have experienced healing, and I was healed in Jesus name!! The final thing that I surely know God and angels are protecting me is .. 1 guy got kicked out of mission.. and he had me attacked outside on state street in bpt ct. I was helping someone with a tore a d 2 guys pinched me in head .. said oh u git my uncle kicked out etc etc . I felt no pain and was thinking these guys are chumps.. them they go get a bat in cat and these kids and 2 guys blocked road and said go down side street .. so they chased me wotj 3 witnesses . One guy gits me in back of head with metal bat and 3 witnesses saw 😇 or something Blick the strike !!.I heard a crack like a foul ball and I heard bat drop but I kept going.. when I came back hours later the 2 guys who saw what happened out of 3 were there. They said " the bat dropped to ground and while u getting away 2 grown men were being held back and couldn't grab bat that fell in ground! Something was holding them back from getting the bat on floor for about 3 minutes!! They started calling me the " anointed one" and were like God really loves u bro 🙏.. so I hope this helps who's reading and If Ben decides to I hope it lifts his spirits..

When I put my faith In God and my values to the test I always pass!! I always know I did the right thing .. when u ask someone who is pro abortion they only use words to slant the truth and they know ita wrong. And I'd they don't they need to check their spirits.. there was a guy recently who started studying all religions and started taking a lip from this and that and had this whole system of how to live and everybody was like " you are such a phony " .. he knew he was faking it himself.. I know when I'm at the food banks and feeding and clothing and helpmb those in need. And going out and praying for those who are sick and preaching gospel .. and following the 10 commandments and trying my best to love god,pray,eat well,workout,and always put God forst .i keep him in front of my mind in everything I do& people come to me and say u always uplift me . Or others will say " there's something about ur spirit " . Lot of light and goodness in u "!! So I'm trying. Many people who say they are chrsitians are not walking In the spirit and praying and doing what Jesus told us to do.. preach gospel, pray for sick,hel0 those in need, feed poor, love your neighbor as thyself,love God wotj all your heart . Those 2 commandments fulfill the 10 cuz if I do and love my neighbor I won't hurt ,stral,lie, or covet his wife,. If I love God with3all my heart I d9nt want to sin and want to be and feel his presence!!

Agreed. But Russell Brand has also grown a whole lot in the last 10 days!

​@OneMondBand very true. His views have changed quite alot over the years

They share most important values of personal responsibility, Community, and freedom. Russell leans more into kindness and caring for others than Ben.

No my friend. 10 years ago, you would have been exactly right and you were exactly right. Only in the last couple years has Russell Brand started to stick his nose above water and enjoy some reality.

​@DemsandLibs AreSwineCancer Exactly this. I'm glad he's learning temperance and some common sense. He's still not quite there but he's getting there.

If they have "markedly different ideologies" I'm not seeing it. Russell has a different way of expressing his beliefs perhaps, but they don't seem to be at odds.

@@gaylerosenthal1828 Russel is an Anarchist and Ben is a conservative which are remarkably different views

@@tberg9677 I don't believe Russell is an anarchist. They may both be libertarians of their own kind of faith culture, but you can't say they are that different. I've watched plenty of Russell's videos and I've never heard him say he is an anarchist. Perhaps at one point ? He seems to be maturing. Maybe he's a late bloomer.

That is exactly what the world needs. They have different ideals but yet they have the utmost respect for eachother.

Human interaction with no agenda is what I hear and see between the two, they are listening to each other and learning...

He is a true "liberal " ..many who profess to be are simply left wing dogmatists who want you controlled (the opposite of a liberal )

All well and true, but I bet he's smoked more crack than anyone on any panel or lifestyle you think of.

He listens and genuinely cares.. Rare qualities to find...

**Russell

Why they are trying to take him out. He has figured out how to navigate the matrix and shares it.

Absolutely. After all, everything Jesus said to the Jews was in the framework of Jewish customs and laws of the time. Of course, the message was for Jews and Gentiles alike, but even to understand the significance of that, it helps to understand the Jewish context.

Amen! It’s sad that it has become a lost art, same with tolerance.

It honestly blows my mind that many people in today's society automatically view those with opposing views as enemies, so much so that they will let it rip apart their families and friendships..

Cindy do you think Russel is a good man? Married to a know witch in the Satanic church and self professed cannibal. He divorced now but as a Rockefeller family member he way up in the masons do you think he is breaking free of that or is a psyop plant?

@@sirdudeness1386 Although it may have gotten very scatterred, it isn't entirely lost. This segment being a proof of that.

I believe that’s why Ben speaks to him. There’s a level of respect there.

That's an interesting observation, and it instantly reminded me of Jesus telling people that you must be like a child to enter the Kingdom of God (Mark 10:15, Matthew 18:3.) Total opposite of the prideful guru attitude I've seen in the past with Brand (granted it's been a while.) Now contrast that with Ben. :/

@@Taterstiltskin It's true, Ben can definitely have the condescending "I'm imparting knowledge to you" attitude as opposed to being happy to have a conversation at times, probably a consequence of often being on the defensive in conversations, definitely something he could improve on

@Gucci Gucci incorrect link

@@CHIEF__ I’m sorry but that’s 90% of christians on KZfaq

@@grantchampaign Agreed. It's the 10% that we can glean from. Separate the wheat from chaff....

What conversation this is Shapiru on a selfish rant

In the past christens like Christopher Columbus use to use the bible as excuse to own slaves

huh people have this type of conversation all the time it is jus that they dont have to show it all the time to the world

There’s no way to rationally discuss religious faith because it itself is irrational.

​@Noun-none-9 The comparison between faith and emotions is an erroneous one. Emotions are indeed intangible, yet rooted in personal experience. On the other hand, to believe in something without evidence is the very definition of faith - therefore making it not possible to be discussed in a rational manner. As Søren Kierkegaard once wrote, “Faith is not a matter of the intellect but of the will.” It is a subjective leap that one takes without the aid of reason or empirical evidence. Faith operates on a different plane altogether. Hence, while it may be possible to discuss emotions through introspection and dialogue, faith is beyond the realm of rational discourse.

It's refreshing actually having a cordial talk with people . Hard to find on the internet these days

The uk has no freedom of speech

You're a christian, so is Ben going to hell if he never converts?

I could be wrong but what I was always told was even though they don't believe Jesus was the son of God, the are God's chosen people. They fall under the old covenant(before Jesus) so I'm sure all Jewish people will be in heaven. That's why God calls all Christians to always show love and be there for the Israel and the Jewish people.

So why did Ben lie about Kaepernick so he can push his political agenda? Seems hateful and ungodly to me

😂 I can never take Brand seriously .His debauchery days in Hollywood are still engrained in memory

@@xena6894 I was a drunk, I dabbled in drugs. I have been in more mosh pits than church services. As of yet. But I am a devout Christian. I read the Bible daily. I do charity work and help in every way I can. My past has given me a great deal of empathy and understanding for people who are struggling or self medicating. I like people with rocky pasts. People who have grown to this degree. They are interesting, non judgmental. Deep thinkers. And even though these men are not Christians, yet, what good men. What a great conversation. God bless them both in Jesus name Amen 🙏

@@xena6894 we have all grown new leaves throughout our lives. It is unfair to judge anyone on past behaviours which no longer apply. 33 years clean and sober and i am not the person i used to be. Thank G.d

That's..... weird, but okay .

But you can take Shapiru seriously who hates Christ and would crucify Him again call him a common thief.

Especially down at the pub! lol ❤

Me too. Except I don't understand a thing. LOL

oh get off his dick. He says a whole of shit without actually saying anything at all. He could make his point with half the verbage and yet does not. It's the definition of pretentiousness. Worship him if you want.

Well said 👍

Then there's me watching them at 2xs speed for that 12,000 word a minute experience

@@xavmanisdabestest lol agreed

Lol if you tap the gear in upper rt corner you can slow them down. But at least they stop and let each other speak. So rare now. Everyone wants to be heard but dont listen. It's called a conversation what a concept.

Like a couple of fast-talking salesmen trying to sell you something you don't need for an outrageously high price.

The world has gone insane. Thus Russell Brand seems more sane every day....😢

He's always been very smart, but he's apparently starting to grow in WISDOM.

Well, exactly 10 yrs ago he began his public search for truth (True News).

He was always a warrior spirit.

I was literally about to write that very sentence. I'm blown away and a bit humbled because I used to hate him.

And also as Christian’s we know that faith always needs work! It’s not something to be left alone, we fuel it with praise and prayer and dedication even when it’s hard. God bless you!

He needs to get high

You must live in a big city apartment or something. My life literally didn’t change one bit during all that craziness. The only thing I had to change was the grocery store I shopped at when the told me I had to wear a mask - I just went to different one.

I never played along. I was ask to leave a few places by the hardcore state raised store clerks…but otherwise life went on as normal for my family and I.

Add a muslim in this convo and it will be like adding fire.

@@emmanuelm8036 was it necessary to cast disrespect at Muslims?

@@austindouglas268 its no disrespect. I've watched many debates and conversations with muslims,its just my observation.

@@emmanuelm8036 Dude there are over a billion muslims. I wouldnt generalise. There are plenty of retarded dogmatic christians as well.

They always seem to forget this though. Jeremiah 17:9-10 The heart is deceitful above all things and it is exceedingly corrupt. Who can know it? “I, Yahweh, search the mind. I try the heart, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.” Psalm 14:2-3 Yahweh looked down from heaven on the children of men, to see if there were any who understood, who sought after God. They have *all* gone aside. They have together become corrupt. There is *no one* who does *good,* no, *not one.*

I agree. So refreshing to hear and see two respectful people.

Yes of course you don't follow the same rules the same way, you have the watered down version of the watered down version because Catholics are the basis for Christianity like Judaism is the basis for Catholics because the man you all love Jesus was a jew not a Christian even the methods of prayer would be foreign to this "son of god" which gave the direct source to follow and then men wrote over it creating so many churches to argue which way he wiped his ass and how many prayers they could write and sing in his name not for his values don't forget the donation basket and free taxes

Then you don't hold to typical evangelical Christianity. You have a more judaistic view of the gospel if you believe that your works matter and have an effect on your faith. I have argued this ad nosium with countless Christians. their claim being that if your works aren't "reflective"of your faith, then it's because your faith isn't 1. Strong enough or 2. You have no faith. They believe that works flow from faith automatically, just as Ben said. Ben's understanding of typical Christianity is on point. You are not a typical Christian.

@@sonar245 I don't know what I am, I believe there is a god but we don't who or what he is but we should respect his gifts and Creations. Like nature which isn't man made I'm not really pagan or a believer.

You don't obey the commandments because commandments are a complete legality. This is not up for debate it clearly states this according to the prophets.

​@@sonar245 you don't understand either.

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No photo bombs allowed. Or else body guards would body slam you if you come close. Or they are paid extras as fillers for scenes. 😂😂

They don't care ok~ reality check~ real life ~ 98% of people mind their own business

Exactly! So weird

They’ve got to be crew members pretending.

The Bible is a test, not an instruction manual. We are not robots being instructed by the letter of the law- you need to learn the spirit of the law as well. And that comes through toil.

I saw a comment that said "Russel brand has word salads and talks complete and utter nonsense and that means he's full of shit." It's really sad to see people not being able to think for themselves and break down basic English to understand the importance of the truth this man speaks.

@TheHappyMask I completely agree. It's almost as if those opinions come from a place of predetermined judgment.

I thought the exact same thing!!

And that relationship has to be cultivated to keep it always transcendent (paramount or central to our lives). I think this is the piece of the puzzle that Ben is missing. Sure, justification is a one time moment, but the ongoing relationship is sanctifying (to make us holy) us moment-by-moment. That's what daily Bible reading and prayer does. The Bible is God speaking to us in objective truth, the Holy Spirit making that word subjective truth as we subject ourselves to it by applying it to a particular real-life situation, and prayer is us speaking back to God to align our wills with His, becoming transformed by the renewing of our minds to be more Christlike. This should instill the humility that Ben speaks of, as we come to know God (not so much facts, but relationally) in a deeper way.

It's going to be funny if y'all meet god and he's questioning why you worshiped a man with a book and dipped your hands in vinegar water then tapped the shape of the murder weapon of the same Jewish man thousands of years ago was decked by the Romans then worshiped by them

I love and respect Jewish people but what is missing from an intellectual conversation about a transcendent moment or one time “feeling” is the Holy Spirit. That can’t be explained to someone who hasn’t received this miraculous gift.

@@willynilly7 I've felt that miraculous feeling not threw Church or senseless devotion but in the sunlight, in the moonlight, in the wind, trees and waters, In the destruction and restoration of life, in our gifts and curses that feeling was refreshing and real compared to a flicker of hope that god cares about us in mass hearing about god's flood that killed innocent kids and animals just to inbreed them all back

Who's KP? I'm guessing not Katie Price!

I'd say he doesn't even really believe that. The Change was his recovery from addiction and now his sobriety.

As someone else mentioned, I imagine he himself would disagree with you. In fact, there’s a part in the longer version behind the DW paywall where Brand briefly talks about when he was young and, in his words, a “junkie,” and did some things he’s ashamed of now. Like all people, ideally, he’s grown a lot over the years. I think that’s more obvious now in recent years where we are all starved for sane intelligence in the public sphere. I know, personally, I have a lot more respect for him now than say 3-5+ years ago.

He's always been insightfully brilliant. He has now come to another level through self discipline.

@@briannajenell Ta!

Yet this kind of thing has been going on forever...you and many others are just at a point to hear it now.

@Mon Ember I was referring to this type being in contrast to the news format on the rest of the programs. My friends and I speak this way. Always have. I'm in my late 30's and relate more to this than the traditional talking head format

bruh people are wild they walking past such a good convo, I woild have pulled up a seat. 😅

Why would you listen to a Jew talk about the Bible? Lol

@@ojs94bronco43 people listened to Jesus...

@@YantisOm and he didn’t believe in Judaism lol

As he said twenty years ago: heroin and cocaine will affect you behavior and not in a good way. 😊

@@ojs94bronco43 Jesus was a practicing Jew. You're either very young, or have just never actually studied the religions.

That’s wonderful!🙏😊❤️I hav a similar (Lutheran) upbringing. There are a few videos release my JBSThe Jewish Broadcasting system, called, “Jewish 101”; taught by Rabbi Mark Galub z”l (Jan 2023) Its the finest introduction to Judaism I have ever encountered, including his Aleph-Bet series. They have their own website that has a larger archive than KZfaq I think. Good luck happy exploring! & Happy Easter

Look up rabbi tovia singer on youtube

Growing up with a Jewish aunt and uncle and being very close to them I often celebrated all the holidays with them and I learned so much!! I often say Judaism isn't just a religion it's more a lifestyle!!

Growing up with a Jewish aunt and uncle and being very close to them I often celebrated all the holidays with them and I learned so much!! I often say Judaism isn't just a religion it's more a lifestyle!!

Growing up with a Jewish aunt and uncle and being very close to them I often celebrated all the holidays with them and I learned so much!! I often say Judaism isn't just a religion it's more a lifestyle!!

He was out of mind on drugs back then

The beauty of turning your life around !!!! Praying for those who may be struggling in and out of the rooms of recovery ! You are loved and you are not alone !

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I’ve noticed he is a very good listener. You can tell by the look on his face and the pertinent questions he asks afterwards.

For a week maybe. Generations? Lol... no.

Absolutely. I agree 100%. Christianity is based on a knowledge of the truth, not mountaintop experiences.

Agreed, but he also misses the point that Protestantism (and specifically, American Protestantism) is this way, not Christianity as a whole or to its core. Orthodox Christianity and even Roman Catholicism follows the same trajectory of path -> experience vs experience > path that he describes for Judaism.

@@DL-ep5uk Daily Wire

@@DL-ep5uk daily wire 😉

Wow. Ben is talking with someone who thinks and talks faster than him.

Have you read the Bible verses about God killing children. There are a lot.

@@thebelmont1995 yeah, God kills everyone in the very beginning. Wipes them out in a flood. Only saves 8

@@bernardandersonii Not just that. The parts where he specifically kills children.

@@thebelmont1995 that's what I'm saying, anytime God saw Idolatry and demon worship. Or people did things their own way, he killed everyone. Sodom n Gomorrah, through the book of Joshua, he ordered everyone killed. It bothers me from time to time, but I don't get caught up in God killing anyone because it's his creation, he has a right to bring justice or relieve anyone from life in His own way. My biggest concern is people murdering people they didn't make (including themselves). We were made for God, not for ourselves and the abuse of others. And when that happens, God's justice is to make it right however he sees fit. God feels wayyyy more compassion than we do, and when he's angry, his anger is wayyy more just than ours. We don't know all his ways and ends, but we can see two things; God is loving and just. Did you know He killed His own Son for us?

Yet you are here living and breathing. The trick is to study why? They were killed because they were defiled with a bad gene. Gen 6...after that flood. After flood all those who were no longer full human....study the nations which were destroyed and their genealogy. Their blood line... unfortunately we still have some of the seed of Satan with us here on earth. Study and argue....would you have liked if we lived among a huge number of sort of humans who ate humans...but well. Maybe you might have. But God saw it fit that whatever he didn't create to be destroyed whether after centuries there will be people who will think they are wiser than Him.

Russell Brand uses words that are verbose, and unnecessary. He's trying too hard. My teachers taught it was bad English to do what he does. They site George Orwell. The language is designed so that everyone should be able to understand you. This is why LEADERS do not speak like Brand. Simple English. They must reach everyone in the electorate. I see no intellectual 'discourse' here. I see a man speaking FAST, because he fears he will be interrupted, and Brand is also showing signs of insecurity with multiple conflicting tattoos? some pagan, some Christian? It's a source book of a tattoo shop. Both speakers are self destructive. They are panicking. Intellectuals avoid Religion, as it simply is not important. They are above it. They move onto perceived higher ground. It is a battle they avoid. Their misfortune. Pure Pride.

Pareto’s principle exponentially… Do you understand Russell or not?

@@Bartgoeschurch Do you understand Daniel 12. It does not need a load of verbiage.

@@Bartgoeschurch All wisdom comes from God. Newton spent all his life analyzing the bible. wrote two million words about it. was he a lesser intellectual than BRAND? Did Brand change physics? Like MAXWELL or Heisenberg? NOPE. Brand is a fool. everyone can recognize a CLASS CLOWN. manic and depraved. He's marked his body with INK? a slave mark. Frowned upon in past generations. tattoos are for prostitutes and slaves? Those that are traded. Bought owned, even Kings who sell out to Satan. The Bible tells its readers never to tattoo yourself. as a pagan. Take no OATH. No marks. Pareto's principle is for men who seek to manipulate life? that is witch craft. CRAFT - Freemasonry. That is deals. 80-20 split. and power structures . there is never a resolution to any problem, by these men. they deliberately perpetuate evils. Lots of cash for Tomahawk missiles? Lots of cash for trash? two million for a pair of trainers? 15 million for a world record license plate for a car? 5 million a year for Live Aid? to feed millions? 80-20 does nothing. the world is over you twit. greedy men have allocated a pittance to solving all the issues that rape our world. and spend the 99 percent on BS. Daniel 12 - details the time line - 1290 years from 602BC to 688AD. when you see the abomination? WHAT's that? then wait 1335 years. a blessing arrives. any fool can read it. and do simple arithmetic. Daniel gave you three numbers. 1260-1290-1335. all are used. 602 to 688AD = 1290 688 to 1948 = 1260 688 to 2023 = 1335. a blessing. is it a coincidence that in 688AD, teh muslims put Al AQSA on top of Solomon's temple? an abomination. Is it a coincidence 1260 years later Israel is reborn? and is it a coincidence that 75 years seperates 1260 and 1335? 75 yrs? Abraham's Rock? Abraham came into Canaan aged 75. Born in 1948 BC. God is not allowing a RESET? Not allowing Brand and his boys, His deal making buddies with all sorts of mathematical strategies to operate. their world is over. God will repossess his land. Satan has lost his kingdom. It's over. he have six years to vacate. the land reverts to God in 2030. All men who think they prosper today? are screwed. God will take the CHILDREN. He will take the Christians. and leave you HANGING. and CHAOS devours you all. then Satan will offer ORDER. but it only lasts 42 months. then God Destroys the whole nest of Vipers. You can surrender to God to avoid hell. Post rapture. You can wait and see? if Millions vanish. You will know God is about to destroy all men who hang onto cash? digital cash. He will destroy all manipulators. Control freaks. and deal makers. CRAFT. He will not be GENTLE. You have had 2000 years to make your NIRVANA. It did not happen? It never can happen.. with 2500 plus Billionaires. GREED. It's over - we have reached day 1335. we are in that year. Climate change is an excuse. God is going to increase the CHAOS. every gain? you make. Is wiped out by a disaster. another tornado? another ten billion in damages. Every time they steal a billion, ten billion is wiped out in a FLOOD. God is returning now. and ends your discourse.

@@paultimson6674 I do now 🫶