Benchmade Adira vs Spyderco Salt, MKM Yipper, and Bugout in 24-hr Corrosion Resistance Test⁠⁠

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Benchmade Adira vs Spyderco Salt, MKM Yipper, and Bugout in 24-hr Corrosion Resistance Test⁠⁠

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Күн бұрын

This video introduces a new for my channel test: Accelerated Corrosion. This test procedure follows the general guidelines of ASTM B117 standard. The purpose is to show which knives perform as advertised in high humidity conditions and which fall short of the hype.
#edc #sharp #knife #spyderco #benchmade

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@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

This video follows the one I published recently where the inside-out look at Benchmade’s new Water series Adira. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpunopWW0tuym5c.htmlsi=3ZwV0r-OV4o5fiOb There will bear third video where I take another inside-out look at the knives you see here. We’ll get to the bottom of all this together! Ask questions and give me new ideas, I’m listening!

@johngibson4823 3 ай бұрын

Love that you are not affiliated with a company. Really enjoy your unbiased perspective. Well done.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! You have no idea how much this means to me! And I’m not even talking about just the monetary value! It’s the loyalty of viewers like you that keeps me going! Thanks!

@jasonbruchmiller4580 3 ай бұрын

Pretty ironic that a Golden Colorado Spyderco performs better in salt than an Oregon City Oregon Benchmade. Apparently the guys at Benchmade dont get to the coast enough for real world testing. As a life long Oregonian and former employee of Benchmade im disappointed by a lot of what they put out these days.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

Les is sorely missed for sure. Ambacrobie & Finch story unfolding in front of our eyes.

@ST-ue5fb 3 ай бұрын

It's incredible that you buy all of these knives, which are certainly not cheap, and do the testing that you do. I/your viewers appreciate it. Thank you.

@PPeteris 3 ай бұрын

I think that the reason why Adira's blade rusted is that Benchmade has chosen an inappropriate finish for the blades that are supposed to be used in or near salt water - they have stonewashed them. If I'm not mistaken, stone washing creates scratches on the blade where salt water can accumulate and create rust spots.

@KeithStrang 14 күн бұрын

I too am curious about this. Finish matters.

@Carnivorous_edc 3 ай бұрын

Spyderco took the time to get the heat treatment done right and declared that Magnacut was a steel worthy of its salt series line. Thanks for sharing that is a very expensive test. Question. Any attention on the condition of the edges on those knives before and after?🤓

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

All will be revealed soon 😉

@SonoranKnifeNut 3 ай бұрын

They also redesigned the hardware and internals to withstand the corrosion. I believe their warranty covers against corrosion on their salt line. Benchmade put Magnacut on basically an Adamas and claimed it a salt/water knife.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

@@SonoranKnifeNut nope. It is a scaled up bugout on the inside. In fact it has a steel cross bar and Bugout has Titanium

@floridaman727 3 ай бұрын

I can confirm that a native salt (mine in LC200) can be left on a boat and forgotten about for 5 months and it may have a few little spots but they rub right off. Best saltwater knives ever. Had one in a wade bag too and it’s like it was when it came out of the box.

@DamionJR4923 3 ай бұрын

My LC200n Spyderco Salt 2 can go snorkeling in the ocean a couple hours a day for a week and was good as new.

@SOMNIOHM 3 ай бұрын

_Very well done, the outcome is nearly exactly as I would have expected!_

@ElonaldTrusk 3 ай бұрын

I took a native 5 in s30v to the beach for a week recently. It got wet every day. I rinsed and wiped it down at my hotel room at the end of each day. No rust at all... I was shocked. Im definitely getting the native 5 salt!

@jasonbruchmiller4580 3 ай бұрын

You have me wondering if a higher hrc is responsible for the spydercos superior resistance to rust over the Benchmade and mkm magnacut. Spyderco has a reputation for optimal heat treat while Benchmade has a reputation of running soft.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

It’s optimized for corrosion resistance.

@jesseherbert2585 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Tedvaard 2 ай бұрын

Great test! Thank you very much for doing this. Your videos are very informative and enjoyable for the rest of us knife geeks.

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

Great to have you on the channel!

@jesseherbert2585 3 ай бұрын

Excellent content, independent testing is much appreciated.

@hectorrivera6624 3 ай бұрын

Im getting that Adira. Love magnacut. Im not planning on living the knive in the bottom of the ocean, so is perfect for my uses.

@Superbus753 3 ай бұрын

For a salt/water knife i do prefere vanax or lc200n. Vanax is just fantastic as a blade material and doesn’t corrode at all.

@slayer7682 3 ай бұрын

I have a couple knives with Vanax, I don't see it really used that much at all. I have a Kershaw with it.

@Superbus753 3 ай бұрын

@@slayer7682 i have a custom by roman kasé (Kknives Switzerland) which is absolutely stellar and a shark by steingraber knives which comes close in performance to the one by roman.

@clintwestwood3539 3 ай бұрын

@@slayer7682Vanax is superb. I prefer it to Magnacut

@Superbus753 3 ай бұрын

@@slayer7682 in Production knives it often suffers from retained austenite. the HT really has to be spot on for it to perform correctly

@Tym2GoDie 3 ай бұрын

Really impressed with the spyderco result. Definitely gonna pick up a salt series when they restock.

@Stucknthe80z 3 ай бұрын

Only Benchmade could hype a knife for water use only to have it rust. What a clown show that company has become

@BrandonMeyer1641 3 ай бұрын

Give it another day and the omega springs will turn to powder.

@adamsmiths3016 2 ай бұрын

Just go with the og 940

@thomasdaneault2176 Ай бұрын

I would love to see you repeat this test with other steels as well. Interesting to see variation with the same type of steel between different companies and designs. But also curious to see how s35v or s90v or D2 may stack up as well

@luisnouel4268 3 ай бұрын

Amazing video. My concern about Magnacut knives is not the blade itself. What happens with inside parts?. Spring, bearings, spacers, etc. Those parts are harder to clean and maybe those are not rust resistant. I suppose you already made the autopsy of the 4 knives and you will show the results very soon

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

Great point!

@frankkociara4228 3 ай бұрын

i still prefer the spyderco carribean in lc200 anyday over magnacut and their h1/h2 rustproof steels like in the jumpmaster are a great no maintenance knife also. don't keep an edge like some of the magnacut knives i have but around salt/water lc200, h1,h2 are hard to beat. great channel btw.

@MrBowser2012 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting! I live in a pretty dry climate, nowhere near the sea, so corrosion resistance is down on my list of requirements but that was a fun experiment.👍🏼

@stevendalton7686 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'm looking forward to your examination of the omega springs. It seems that even a little corrosion there might weaken the spring.

@rhinosaur. 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Spyderco has been making Salt knives for a long time, so they've learned a lesson or two. So I'm not surprised the Salt knife did great. The Adira did well and with a few tweaks could probably be optimized. Can't wait to see the tear downs.

@forgingluck 3 ай бұрын

I've used a spyderco (pacific salt with black carbonitride coating on h1 steel) for almost a decade in rather salty environments, and it's perfectly good still. Blade is a bit soft, leading to more frequent sharpening, but still awesome.

@johnbiteme9118 3 ай бұрын

Someone on KZfaq doing industry recognized, standardized testing! Absolutely love it!

@mel87123 3 ай бұрын

You are the reviewer to watch! Impartial and honest. Saving people money and disappointment by helping them avoid knives that don't live up the cost or hype.

@m.houston6643 3 ай бұрын

Benchmade doing typical benchmade things lol

@TerminalM193 3 ай бұрын

I love the glass booth showcases! I've just been putting my collection in big pelican cases but now I'm going to start looking how to build one of those showcase.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

IKEA USA has the tall ones among others. The Benchmade case is nearly unobtanium.

@rutr000 3 ай бұрын

Appears all the innards passed the test, but bizarre that Benchmade forgot (?) to give the Adira a salt safe pocket clip. Oops!

@m.houston6643 3 ай бұрын

It just goes to show they don’t even test their product out. They put it together like “this is cool I hope it works, let’s sell it to people!” Butterfly tax for what?

@AirsoftAdventures308 Ай бұрын

Bro wants all the knives in that room to rust 😂

@BenCase88 3 ай бұрын

Any knife having rust problems on mostly just bearings would be greatly beneficial to put a set of Skiffs on it. PB/ceramic bearings. Could be a possible fix for the Yipper if that turns out to be the problem.

@mikeh4711 3 ай бұрын

Great video - thanks for doing this test!

@ARAW-__- 3 ай бұрын

Just imagine how 1095 would compare 😅 That spydie is impressive !

@yoyoyo93200 3 ай бұрын

Good test! I would like to see the internal metal components of the Adria and how it fared.

@mattdagger1480 3 ай бұрын

Looks like benchmade is heat treating magnacut incorrectly if the magnacut from them has problems sadly....I guess benchmade never learns

@ElonaldTrusk 3 ай бұрын

Idc about hardness tests... I've been skeptical of bm's care for heat treating/tempering and post ht grinding. Multiple of their knives ive purchased have taken shitty edges, on the same equipment I'm getting amazing edges on Spydercos and cold steels. This just furthers my suspicion. Someone once said theyre likely tempering at really high temps to make the blades less likely to burn off too much hardness on the belts during sharpening.. and high-temp tempers rob a steel of the properties it's meant to exhibit. I'm no chemist or metallurgist, but from what I do know, it kinda makes sense.

@BrandonMeyer1641 3 ай бұрын

I agree, benchmade heat treatments are really quite bad. My Spyderco s30v outperforms my benchmade s30v. It’s honestly just pathetic. This test just affirms my decision to not buy another benchmade.

@TheWatcher60401 3 ай бұрын

This was a cool test.

@ting280 3 ай бұрын

some good info in this, great test, thank you

@DanMatheny-sl7xk 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video as usual

@franciscvarga1212 3 ай бұрын

Spyderco is the champ and most trusted.

@stearnsbingham552 3 ай бұрын

Benchmade does have some nice leather sheaths for their fixed blade knives.

@Sharpbevel 3 ай бұрын

Looks like I’ll be getting a Lynch titanium pocket clip for my Adira.

@b.s.w8295 2 ай бұрын

“The procedure allows me to dry test subjects “😂😂

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

ASTM B117, Paragraph 13. Read it and then, please don’t delete the comment. May it serve as a reminder that the less one knows, the more one thinks he knows. www.galvanizeit.com/uploads/ASTM-B-117-yr11.pdf

@poncho151 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing this test! I’m extremely curious to see what the inside of the Adria. If the omega springs are rusted at all, then ultimately the knife will fail and in my opinion isn’t a true saltwater knife like the Spyderco native 5.

@KeithStrang 14 күн бұрын

Amazing work! I was just about to get a benchmade but have to get the spyderco now for my boat knife. I do wonder if the benchmade would have polished their blades vs. stonewash if it would have faired better?

@tfeltmat2903 3 ай бұрын

I have become a Spyderco enthusiast over the years.

@bhunt919 2 ай бұрын

I saw a mkm fixed blade in magnacut that was rusting a little bit and the guy said he wasn't even using it in water like that.

@edwardschofield6692 3 ай бұрын

Good job on your video as usual.I am waiting to get Magnacut blade apprrox 3.5or 4 "I live near the Chesapeake Often messing around water I have observed rust on my blades D2 s30 ,154,cm cleans off easy .S35,20cv not so much rust.I would give up a little edge retention for Corrosion resistances. Good luck all

@Huey4214 3 ай бұрын

Great video, I am not surprised that the Spyderco was the only knife that passed with flying colors. Benchmade should be embarrassed is a big way. Benchmade has really been a major let down lately. I would bet the Spyderco had the best factory edge on the blade as well.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

All of that is supported by the video I’m currently working on.

@miked6367 3 ай бұрын

Spyderco will always be the king of salt knives. Would never spend a single dollar on benchmadeb these days.

@tgonzalez1983 3 ай бұрын

Keep up the good work

@stearnsbingham552 3 ай бұрын

I never even consider Benchmade when I am in the market for a knife.

@tgonzalez1983 2 ай бұрын

You think you can try doing a corrosion test with a Demko AD20.5 or AD20? The stock bearings are steel & im very curious. The locking mechanism has me curious as well. Thanks!!! Haven’t seen any of your testing on those or cold steel knives

@floridaman727 3 ай бұрын

I am so sick and tired of bechmade after my already returned mini auto Adamas. For the price they just aren’t worth it anymore.

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

I hope you have seen my video on Mini Auto Adamas? Im shocked that they took my absolute favorite model and messed it up to that extent! And for no apparent reason 😢

@floridaman727 3 ай бұрын

@@CuttingBoardRxI did but it was after I bought it and returned it. The up and down slop was ridiculous. My buddy had one and returned it too and he had the same problem. I was looking forward to a smaller auto running on washers since I live in a sandy and salty environment and also wasn’t a push button but it just failed. So far my last few benchmade purchases have pissed me off. I’ve been using the manix 2 LW magnacut and it’s the best all around knife I’ve got right now. Even took it free diving Saturday and the hole was nice and large enough to work with gloves. Don’t usually carry a folder but I wanted to give it a shot. Hooked a cord to it and it was rockin and rollin

@floridaman727 3 ай бұрын

Also I just want to say thankyou for all the effort you put into these. Some of us really find this information useful. I was think about getting a water series benchmade just to try out on the boat but benchmade has me wary with their heat treat after my magnacut CLA I already sold. Would’ve saved me some money.

@jordy703 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. No adira order is coming here 😂. I’ll stick with my Spyderco manix 2 salt. Again Spyderco proves their trustworthy

@jufuh1503 3 ай бұрын

Very well done, i'm really eager to get your 3rd video and your conclusion. From what i've hear from dr Thomas (let's call him steel jesus), heat treat impacted corrosion resistance of magnacut. I was under the impression that if it was between 60-64 hrc it was all good, you just made me doubt that. Could also be the finish 🤔

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

I’m actually editing the next video as we speak and just finished addressing Steesus’ article. knifesteelnerds.com/2021/03/25/cpm-magnacut/ Edit: actually he’s more like Moses, leading us out of the desert of ignorance into the lush fields of metallurgy

@jufuh1503 3 ай бұрын

@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for the quick answer, really eager to see it! It's nice to have someone that takes a professional approach to knives 👌

@InitialFailure 2 ай бұрын

Lab/parent's basement Potato/tomato Interesting stuff either way.

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

My parents are 85 yo and, having retired from a very successful family business, which btw, they started 18 months after immigrating to the US bare-ass poor, could buy me a whole house if I was in need. Which I’m clearly not. Thanks for commenting. God Bless the USA!

@InitialFailure 2 ай бұрын

@CuttingBoardRx and subscribed lol. Love the humor.

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

@InitialFailure Welcome to the tribe! Looking forward to quirky comments!

@kraakvmaar1505 3 ай бұрын

I mean they act like you could go swim in salty water with the salt or the adira and not that these knives are only useful at the coast. So the stain on the adira is a big failure in my eyes

@tk423b Ай бұрын

If you live within 5 miles of the ocean you need a salt knife.

@michaelarellano8632 3 ай бұрын

Do you think changing to aluminum or titanium aftermarket scales on something like the native 5 could cause galvanic corrosion to occur?

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

Great question, I’ll include it in the next video! Thanks!

@TypeShotta 3 ай бұрын

So if i dont use in salt water? Im good.. okay i freshwater fish 💀

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

Presumably you’re speaking of the Adira? You would have to remember to clean, dry and lubricate it immediately after being exposed to water especially in the lock area.

@Kris_Stiletto 3 ай бұрын

I hope you're making enough money, off of your views, to pay for all of your knives that you destroy. But, this is interesting. Thank you for sacrificing your knives for this Video. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

@KingKsEDC 2 ай бұрын

This isn't even a debate. Spyderco Salt Series annihilates Benchmade. Anything Spyderco annihilates anything Benchmade. But this is why I have an issue with BM. For the prices they charge you dint get what you're paying for. It's a joke. BM has turned into a fashion brand. Spyderco takes the time to do right whereas Benchmade just releases whatever, slaps on a laughable price and moves on. This is so embarassing if youre a diehard BM fan.

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

Well, I get what you’re saying but should we not wait until I test Manix 2 Salt MagnaCut and Delica Salt LC200n before jumping to such final conclusion?

@spider5001 3 ай бұрын

I bought a knife from BR in magnacut. It chips easily and is a major pain to sharpen. I give it 2 thumbs down and a slap in the face. Never Again

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

What or who is BR?

@johnnyeas1431 3 ай бұрын

@@CuttingBoardRxI think he means Bark River

@Youtube-Censorship-Police 2 ай бұрын

i knew it as soon as i saw the first pictures of this knife! the benchmade poopheads didn't think about all the other metal parts, like springs, clip, screws etc. couldn't even ht the magnacut for optimal stain resistance lol, what a clown company! this is why i only trust spyderco when it comes to specialized knives.

@CuttingBoardRx 2 ай бұрын

I’m about to test Manix 2 and Delica Wharncliffe Salt 2. Let’s see how they do?

@MrBowser2012 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@CuttingBoardRx 3 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your support and your thoughts, questions and suggestions! I can only wish for more subs like you!