Tight trucks were the norm in the late 80s/early 90s. It was all about having a solid sounding setup. When mini-ramps were popular, most skaters did straight lines and the only people that carved with loose trucks were the old dudes who used to skate the bowls in the 70s.

The sheer joy on your face after each trick with medium tightness says it all. Great skating as always Ben!

For the longest time I could only skate really tight trucks. I learned all my flip tricks on tight trucks. It felt like I had more control and pop. But I gradually became more of a medium tightness guy.

No right or wrong. Found that tight trucks are alot easier for beginners to manage, thereafter as our students get more comfortable and confident on the board, we would loosen it progressively.

The first half of this video is about what it’s like to ride Krux K4s

"Yeah! I can turn, I can pop, I can grind" 😂❤

Kind of interesting how truck preferences come To be. I used to tighten my trucks down so tight that it would start to bend the washers. Then I learned to snowboard one winter. Then when I hopped on my skateboard for the first time the following spring, it felt so gross. I slowly started riding it looser and looser. Now I’m a certified turny boi. I basically ride the nut flush with the kingpin with bones medium bushings. Loose, but no rattle. I’ve been riding it a hair tighter than normal recently though.

For anyone else over 200 lbs like myself, hard or very hard bushings with medium-loose tightness is a nice balance. Still be able to turn but not get wheel bite on every trick. Love the content Ben! Mini ramp part 4 please!?

I broke a few kiingpins back when I rode tight trucks. If you're wheel doesn't bottom out on the deck (wheelbite) all the force levers through the truck. It's definitely not good for the bushings either. Also, I recently noticed a surprising increase in speed after loosening half a turn - something to do with how the wheels undulate over the bumps... from a drop in and pump over the funbox, I was definitely getting higher up the opposite flatbank than before!

unreasonably medium trucks next

As far as Chris Cole is concerned, the closer to too tight the better. Apparently helps with locking in flip tricks and ankle stability. Obviously not so tight that you cant turn.

All of ben’s bails on tight trucks look exactly like me when I miss my flip tricks. I ride really tight trucks but have been loosening them up slowly. After watching this I’m going to loosen them even more. Thanks Ben, I’ve learned so much about board setup from your vids 👍

Always nice to verify what’s been going through our skateboard rabbit holes. I rocked Doh Doh reds for many years. Medium tightness, right in the middle.

A completely obedient setup ( tight trucks) is helpful to someone starting out without the right lower body muscle development. Early Chris Cole video footage shows what kinda "tic/tac", "powerslide", good posture skateboarding comes with efficient tight truck skateboarding.

I love tight tucks, they just make everything easier or more consistent for me.

When I broke my collar bone and was in a sling, I tightened my trucks up for stability.. but once I regained use of my arm, it was back to reasonably loose

In a flatground environment these are the potential negatives I experience. Extremely tight: Smaller margin for popping technique, poor handling and tic-tak landings. Extremely loose: Smaller margin for foot placement, wheel bite and curved roll away. (I work at an indoor skatepark and I’m often requested to test other peoples setups, I prefer slightly loose unless hillbombing, vert or large gaps)

I used to skate really tight when I started and decided to loosen up so I would get a bit better at control of my board. Yesterday, I finally skated after a long time and I realized my pop was off because of the looseness. One or two quarter turns and it felt way more stable and loose enough. I was able to land the ollie to manual way cleaner and controlled.

Depends on how fast you ride.

I love super tight trucks..i think nyjah huston does the same and he gets tricks haha. The flips feel more precise and stable with tight trucks ..in my humble opinion. All hail Ben 🙏🏻

Honestly ben you should learn tic tac’s and pivot turns.(it’s really useful to have in your wheelhouse so you can improve your skateboarding even better than it already is.)

Nollie Bigspin Flip, nollie 360 flip and nollie half cab heel 👏💕👍🤙 You make it look too easy. I can barely nollie any more

Ben! Great to see a new vid as always :D

I just saw a 15 year old clip of me skating today. It was an ollie over a tipped over oil barrel trash can, kickflip, push, then tail grab a 6 stair. I could tell I rode tight trucks cause I was tick tacking and looking all weird and swervy on the landing. I ride loose now but not on the floppy side. So much nicer in my honest opinion.

I used to snap too many kingpins when i was skating tight trucks (Indy stage 8/9). Going to a nice medium is the way forward. I do like my front truck just a little looser than my back though. Gives a nice surfy feeling to Indy stage 11standards, not that they need help in that department. Great video, Ben 👊😁

ive always skated really tight trucks. as i started it gave me stability and confidence, and i kinda got used to it. i just put extra effort into my tre flips. + its nice not to wiggle while ure riding rlly fast.

At 12 years old started with tight for stability and learning, understandable. Later years when I got good went real loose. Not shaky but extra loose enough for people to notice riding the board. Now it's a happy medium-loose. Can cruise turns well and still balance them tricks.

I like turning too! everyone I skate with has tight trucks, but coming from snowboarding it just feels so unnatural. Just hearing you say "I like turning" made me realise to stick to my guns :D

Every set up in my quiver has wildly different truck tightness, wheel hardness, etc etc. As Ben has pointed out before, this does not help with trick progression. At the same time, the variety keeps things interesting. Maybe one day I'll solve the puzzle but I kinda hope i don't. Thanks for all the great content, i love this channel.

Those switch heels after you loosened back up were beautiful!

Your videos is really enjoyable, love what you trying out how different setups feel like. I have begin to skateboarding again but still riding my 20yr old GK trucks, im mainly a aggressive inlineskater, but now i try to boost up my board skills and set up the old bushings with new bushings in 92 or 96a rated bushings for the trucks, instead of tighing the heck down the old original it felt awfull, lol. So maybe i can find a setup i like to ride, since i dont like to loose trucks,but right now the old bushings don't feel responsive at all. Keep posting videos 😊

The super tight setting with the looks like what you want for a huge vert ramp. I like mine tightened to the point that I just get wheel bite and then between 1/4 and 1/2 turn tighter, so I avoid wheel bite.

Weird how comments show user handles now rather than username

The best thing I noticed about Ben's flatground tricks with super tight trucks is at 4:25 the board actually "says" the words "kick-flip"...check it out!!!

Loose trucks _for me_ just feel right. Not like Daewon loose, reasonable loose. Idk how anyone skates tight trucks but more power to you. Skateboarding is so subjective and so many variables depend on so many factors you really do just need to try all the settings and load outs until something clicks.

i spent my first few years of skating with ultra-tight trucks. every turn was a tick-tack and i broke a few kingpins a year. the only upside was 5050's on rails without needing to pinch. literally the only upside(which sounds strange in retrospect). i no longer skate but this made me remember something from my early teens, cheers

congrats on 100k ben

i was just wondering this so i loosened my kids trucks to see if he liked it better and when i was riding it i noticed i thought it felt great, until i tried to land some flat tricks and couldnt keep my balance. but i think im going to try to get used to it

I used to teach skate lessons and the kids would always have tight trucks. I would advise them that it’s bad especially cause they only weigh 50 pounds, THEY COULDN’T TURN! Then they would get on my board and say “wow, you’re board is fun, it’s weaves around all over the place” 🤦‍♂ , it’s supposed to do that. You’re pretending to surf, you’re not pretending to stand on a coffee table.

Tight trucks are the way, I used to ride Daewon level trucks but eventually started going tighter and tighter. Just less room for error and less to think about. But as a side note loose trucks force you to understand your balance points really well it gives you a sense of where to land and is prolly the best way to learn board and landing control.

By far the most comical video you’ve done

I really enjoy my Ace trucks with hard bushings ...i dont run em tight but its feels like a great hybrid combo

Remarkable difference in the way you skated and the way the tricks looked when you readjusted!

Wonderful channel. + 1 subscriber

When you do switch heel you most definitely use counter pressure on the tail and mid of the board, so i think some give in the trucks will def help pop and flip! Great video ben

Ben teasing the lock-in fulls on the thumbnail 🤨

I the last pair of trucks I had needed to be retired because the kingpin nut actually broke through the washer and not only exploded my bushing but it also got the nut stuck no matter what I did.

Man i have really enjoyed really loose trucks for the tight easy carves, but this may be what I'm missing on my flip tricks(of which i have none) I keep thinking the balance will come, and i should just get used to it, but maybe I'll go a little tighter and see if that helps. Thanks again Ben! Edit, this probably should go on the loose trucks video, but I watched both before I decided

i think this is how i set up my board years ago when I was a beginner. i was just practicing how to ollie and the tighter set up made it easier to have a sturdy pop

your Nollie tre was nice! 👌

My brother liked his trucks as tight as possible. I never understood it

Thunders are a game changer. But I just picked up a few other trucks. Indys, Ventures, and Destructos. The Destructos look like they have a similar geometry to Indy's and I dont understand why they get bad press. In our day, we honestly didnt care what we rode on street. I think I rode Ventures and Destructos without even stressing on the brand. Today, I literally have board madness. If you're heavier, I recommend an Almost deck. It lasted me a long time. I think having two different setups isn't a bad idea but having a consistent set up makes more sense. If you skate bowls more you're probably going with a slightly higher truck,not venture los. But today kids are experimenting. And, it's exciting to watch. I've seen insane skating on giant soft wheels by groms. Hmmm....maybe I should shut up and sk8

14:15 almost classic Ali's "My hass is out" 😄

i swapped my inverted indie bushings to hard from medium after your video. Feel WAY better, but to me the inverted indies are way too loose out of the box with the red bushings.

Hi Ben! I couldn’t help noticing, but the thumbnail caught my eye! How are you liking the new spitfire F4 lock in fulls? Review incoming? :)

Over tightened ventures 😂 has to be loose for me, all about that loose surfy style for me although I recently tightened them so that the kin pin thread is just about showing as I’m skating more transition right now.

Definitely like medium on my trucks hate them when super loose and hate them when super tight.

Can u make a video on independent titanium vs grind king disruptor

Ben's like a ripping skate scientist!!!!!!!!!! keep up the good work G.

I like tight-ish medium with some harder bushings, the firmness just feels right and I can still carve if I set my body weight into it

What size board and trucks are you on these Ben?

I used to bomb hills alot when I was a kid. I got used to just leaving them tight. However as years past I eventually have been ridong medium tight with the back on 1/2 turn tighter

can you please review Silver Trucks? Nyah, Josh Kalis, Prod skated them in the day, and I bought a pair for $30. Felt like a Venture and a Thunder combined. Would love to hear ur thoughts

Do a video about tight/loose trucks and bushings regarding round rails

10:49 “i really like turning” - Dad

Let’s get to the real news. How do bones bushings effect different trucks heights and kingpin placement. Plus other after market bushings added to trucks.

I'll do it the opposite way : i have kind of low indies and a long 8.8, wasn't feeling that good gri.ding So i tried indy bushings with cupped washer on thunders on that board with risers (board really long): better but not turny enough From what i understood harder is better than looser as long as you turn enough so... i'll try flat roadside thinner washers tomorow Thanks for your point of view !

Nollie Tre is insane

As someone that has a vert setup that’s tight. And a street board that’s loose. Tight trucks are almost mandatory if you don’t want to eat shit skating vert. Just ask your local vert skater if his trucks are tight

It's fine to have tighter trucks if you know what you're doing already. Beginners need to have looser trucks because that's how you learn to balance. If you push balancing onto your trucks, you're not going to learn and your body won't get used to it. Also, you can always improve with loose trucks to get better control but you can't really do anything with very tight trucks since you're sacrificing mobility.

It’s a good day when you wake up and see there is a new Ben Degros video!

Hey Ben, any idea on ways to make my trucks heavier without using bigger wheels?

I used to skate with them so tight they would turn. Then broke 4 axles within a year. Now I ride as loose as the thunders will allow me

I’m 235lbs. I have to ride bones hard bushings and crank them down like you did here. I’d even go for independent super hard bushings but the bones don’t chip as easy.

I find pressure flip variations easier on tight trucks too. Can spring load them.

Do a video with 53/54mm wheels with high trucks and 52/51mm with low trucks

Ben - best heelflipper out there.

Let’s talk about those April boards, mine is almost done, too😁

This is how Nyjah skates

Is that April deck their 8.25"? I LOVE THE APRIL 8.25"!! The long mellow tail makes tech tricks so much more consistent for me. 6.8" long tail with a 14" WB and 5.6" ventures is my all time favorite combo. Can you make a video talking about the April 8.25" tail? I also found the Primitive made in USA 8.25" deck to be almost the exact same shape but their tail has very slightly more kick up.

You actually looked really good riding that "rolling crime scene". It's wrong to put a beginner on a board that wont turn to come back under them when they lean.They have to learn all that.

Or get harder bushings if you like tighter trucks. That way you dont have to crank them down and you can still get a little turn.

tight truck freestyle era when

When I was younger I used to ride super tight trucks, but when I started skating again, i tried to ride my new trucks (Indies) as they come.. Took a while to adjust to it, or in other words, i had to learn skating from scratch again. 😅 But it began to feel way smoother when you can turn easily and don´t have to tictac all over the place. It also improved my board control by a lot.. I mean, I´m still a pretty bad skater, with a very flat learning curve, so it takes forever to learn new tricks, especially the "advanced" stuff like 360 Flips, Varial Heels and so on which, unfortunately i haven´t learned earlier. But I think, learning new tricks is way harder anyway when you get older, so kids, learn your tricks when you are as young as possible! 😄

Now do squeaky trucks vs. quiet trucks.

I skate pretty tight trucks (not this tight but like mid tight) and it works perfect for me. I mostly skate transition and bomb hills. No speed wobbles

Looks like you skated better with the tight trucks.

I've always liked my trucks moderately tight, much easier to ride and tricks look a lot cleaner on tighter trucks imo. I can't skate stock bushings on any trucks, always need to get harder ones (im 180lbs), like 94 to 98a.

I once met a guy that had his bolts loose but trucks super tight... and he was actually super fucking good

Jah would be proud

Ben, what are you thoughts on shock pads? Should a slappy skater be using shock pads? please review! Also, great skating as always, super enjoyable to watch🤠

I run hard bushings but i don't tighten em, like 1/2 a turn past flush. I've def stood on peoples boards with tight trucks, it's terrible and so is loose.

I've been skating super tight trucks with big wheels for 25 years

I ride pretty tight trucks on old school shapes. My feet are really big and I’m kinda heavy footed. It’s easier to power slide for me too. Idk 🤷🏽‍♂️

Are super tight trucks something all little kids do? I remember for the first few years I skated I had mine cranked down and so did all my friends. Not sure if that was an age thing or a trend of years past

He's skating better with the right trucks, bc he's trying not to but he still be landing stuff😂😂😂

I guess it depends on your bushings.

Test skating with a helmet and/ or other safety stuff like pads, no one has ever reviewed that! Would like to hear your thoughts on this matter Ben!

I feel like that place is called Victoria gardens or somethin like that

please test oj nomads wheels 95a