The remaining two ALRV streetcars took their final journey as TTC vehicles Monday, offering free service to the last riders along Queen Street. Adrian Ghobrial with some of the history behind the streetcars.
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@alexanderip10034 жыл бұрын
these should go to museums not scrappers
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
Bruh they are...
@christinecarworld3854 жыл бұрын
It's not the last we will see them
@invinciblenowyt4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure they are. We have a tram muesum in zurich and the tram/bus company of zurich is currently restoring a very old tram. The extremely old ones are still used, ish. It’s normally a restaurant or a festive theme and is driven around like that.
@michdem1004 жыл бұрын
@@invinciblenowyt Same in my city - Katowice. We have Konstal N and Konstal 105N historical trams (as in: restored to how they looked when leaving the factory) in regular service.
@EpicThe1124 жыл бұрын
The should San Francisco regauge 4 feet 8 and 1/2 1.4m or Philadelphia 5ft 1.588m
@vizmuvesjanos10454 жыл бұрын
(laughs in Romanian where 35 year old East-Berlin trams are still circulating around the city)
@milosjankovic23914 жыл бұрын
In Belgrade trams is old 40+ year's (Swiss donation)
@dandagames60304 жыл бұрын
In prague there are a bit modernised T3s which are aswell from about the 70s
@benedekhalda-kiss97374 жыл бұрын
In budapest we have Ganz ICS's which are from 1966
@TheOzzyMartin14 жыл бұрын
laughs in new orleanian on my 93 year old streetcar
@benedekhalda-kiss97374 жыл бұрын
Laughs in Hungarian next to my freight tram from 1920
@liamwatson51254 жыл бұрын
Perhaps these bendy streetcars will be preserved at the Halton County Railway Museum where all the other streetcars and subway trains are.
@DTD1108654 жыл бұрын
Like I said, preserving them is museums is a great idea.
@pollardkowsill10954 жыл бұрын
@@DTD110865 I believe the TTC plans to preserve at least one ALRV (maybe two) in Toronto.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
They already are...
@paloma1082104 жыл бұрын
I love these streetcars! When we came to Toronto was the very first ttc we used!
@mathewvanostin71184 жыл бұрын
Yes it gives a european charm..now toronto will look like any other classic north amerikan big city
@n_u0014 жыл бұрын
@@m11322 and on the older buses too!
@vincho694 жыл бұрын
Not only did bombardier delay delivery of new streetcars, we wasted 20 million in a failed project to maintain the aging ALRVs (which eventually got cancelled). You have to wonder who's in charge of these high level decisions.
@NoLeadsEnt4 жыл бұрын
they have serious mental health issues
@gentuxable4 жыл бұрын
SBB bought many Twindexx trains from Bombardier scheduled for 2013. They should be in service since December 2018, but most of them are not ready for service. The CEO of SBB resigned and will finally leave next year. We are talking about almost a billion wasted from our tax money!
@_thebusphotograher_cali4 жыл бұрын
I like these older streetcars over the new ones
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
Who cares 506 is getting new streetcars now who even cares they are back on track..
@TransportationHub4 жыл бұрын
In NYC, we had an issue with Bombardier too. They were two years late with the delivery for our R179s as well. Deliveries should've been from 2015 to 2017. All units should've been on property from 2017. The MTA spent millions of dollars into extended life maintenance on the R32s and R42s, which we still have.
@virtuitousvampire93714 жыл бұрын
I came to Toronto when these where practically brand new (27 years ago) when I first came to Toronto. I thought they were so awesome! I wonder if these will be sold to people that want to build tiny homes. That would be so cool.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
4 of them might, not for homes but for...uh..
@oleogabalo4 жыл бұрын
They may (will probably) be rebuilt and sold to developing countries that cannot afford brand new cars. For example, the San Diego, CA Siemens cars ended up in Mendoza, Argentina. Some of those cars may have up to 15 good years of service ahead of them.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
@@oleogabalo No. The 1 of 2 remaining is being preserved while the other will bite the dust.
@friggerx31504 жыл бұрын
Highly doubt they will be re used would be cool, but we live in too much of a throw away culture these days, they willprobably just go for scrap metal. Get the copper and all the valueable stuff and the rest sent to china for cheap recycled steel.
@oleogabalo4 жыл бұрын
Got it. Seems like a waste. They seem usable. Regards.
@Scj97004 жыл бұрын
The ALRV's are always gonna be my favorite streetcar. I also like the CLRV's. But the Flexity's are the way to go. Rest in peace TTC's ALRV fleet. You will be missed
@thisiswhatbrianthinksadventure4 жыл бұрын
I use to ride these Streetcars with my Auntie Paula in Toronto when I was younger. When I used to live in Hamilton before I moved to Edmonton Alberta.
@ioanpena4 жыл бұрын
Tatra trams are the best trams ever made...those are unbreakable . Even the original seats they never break !!!
@osagiee.guobadia-secondytc46243 жыл бұрын
I never seen those Toronto Transit Commission 'bendy' streetcars before, when I was not born in Canada [until my Nigerian aunt lives there]. Here in the United States (where I was born), there are old Metropolitan Transportation Authority NYC buses that are old and seen in the street since I was born in the year 1998.
@FaadumoArdo4 жыл бұрын
All I remember this street cars when I came to Toronto and i first rode the newer one in July 2016 love it too. Bye Bye legend.
@t.o.92154 жыл бұрын
Sad to see a part of TTC history come to an end. I commend the Commission for the effort to keep the equipment in service for the right reasons albeit at a cost. To their credit, action had to be taken in light of the delayed delivery of the Bombardier order and action they did.
@Emperor_NYC4 жыл бұрын
..NYC still has trains from 1964 running just fine.
@K1_Trains4 жыл бұрын
Ironically there getting phased out right now by bombardier trains that are years late and even had to be sent back to the factories after testing in the subway system because of how faulty they are
@n_u0014 жыл бұрын
and cop cars still using light bars from the 50s too.
@1575murray4 жыл бұрын
@@K1_Trains It's true their replacements the R179 are way behind schedule also the order was changed a few times. The 1964 vintage R32 car bodies are fine as Budd built a nearly indestructible stainless steel car but even though they were put through a GOH they are mechanically worn out. However a subway car does not have to contend with road salt as a light rail vehicle that runs on the street does and they use a lot of it in Toronto in the winter.
@lazergaming8844 жыл бұрын
We have trains from the 1930’s still running over hear in the U.K. ;)
@PlutoRelinquish8004 жыл бұрын
In Boston they still have streetcars from WWII
@louiso63163 жыл бұрын
Remember during 90's when I immigrated to Canada, we use to get on one of those trams from Dundas Station to China Town...nostalgic!!
@michelinman85924 жыл бұрын
Twice in my life I've visited Toronto (1999 & 2008), and have ridden both the CLRV and ALRV-type streetcars. They'll hold a place in my heart, but as with so many things in life, all good things must come to an end. Let's just hope the TTC doesn't have the same problem like they did when the hybrid buses were rolled out!
@Fairunknown4 жыл бұрын
My beloved Father [Charlie] was the night foreman at Roncesvalles Carhouse many years ago, the first CLRV (single module, not the double in this video) was onsite all shiny and complete with the new smell. Dad explained that this was the new tech, packed with electronics, etc. I was so excited! One of my best memories with Dad. Some may remember the red rockets came out again in fleets because this new toy had experienced many faults in the first winter.
@kwm93152 жыл бұрын
That's so awesome 😊
@vfaus35244 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the life extension of the ALRV's (which was first introduced in 1988) for a decade (10 years) was cancelled. Meanwhile over in Melbourne the life on the B class trams (also introduced in 1988) is being extended for another 15 years.
@NoLeadsEnt4 жыл бұрын
can't wait till winter rolls around and the new streetcars are stuck on the tracks, dead, blocking traffic. again
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
Never happend. Bruh.
@NoLeadsEnt4 жыл бұрын
@@ttcclrvfan7027 you must work at bombardier lol meanwhile, it happens even when its just cold outside, let alone winter. the electric lines of the ancient 50+ year old streetcar (that are an eyesore to say the least) are far outdated and not geared for the current geography of this city. also, notice 20 people agreed so far?
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
@@NoLeadsEnt Actually, the new streetcars dont die in the winter. They have ran in severe weather and snow and they fight it easy. Now these antique old streetcars cant stand the winter and they often die. And the 21 people who agree probably drive often and cant stand the fact of a longer streetcar at stops keeping them farther behind.. anyways..
@NoLeadsEnt4 жыл бұрын
@@ttcclrvfan7027 so, you're admitting that streetcars die in the storm and the new ones have not, yet.. correct? &, as to make such a drastic assumption on the now 21 people who've up voted, id say you're stretching like a outdated streetcar on that one.. although you might be right on one or two( myself included lol) a margin of error to great to bet on, for sure though :D that being said, electric buses can navigate the streets much more efficiently, and these all year bike lanes adding to the conundrum seem just as silly as those unappealing lines above most of the downtown's streets (for streetcars). wouldn't you also agree? all in all, i do appeal to your lack of disrespect and insult :D its nice to converse with logical people who are capable of common sense and reason; on youtube too no less lol.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
@@NoLeadsEnt No. 6 electric buses died so far. Anyways *I am not hear to insult, I am just telling you what most transit riders would think* I find it strange how you start supporting electric buses yet you put down similar diesel buses. If you dont agree, you dont have to reply in such a weird format.
@michaelsegal35584 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else noticed that on the new streetcars some of them have louder stop chimes than others on some of them when someone presses the stop button you can hardly hear the stop chime but on others it’s nice and loud and actually noticeable I wish they were all nice and loud and noticeable
@swededude19924 жыл бұрын
In Gothenburg, Sweden, there are streetcars dating all the way back to the shift between 1800s and 1900s, mixed with streetcars from all decades since. All of them are running in rushhours as well.
@kengui72536 ай бұрын
Here in Brussels the pcc trams are still running, the 77/7800 serie is 50y old . They are dead to the wire! Alstom is in full delivery of the new TNG flexity 3200/4200 series. But goes slow. All the new trams are only for the center and the old stock runs on the outlines of Brussels
@SebisRandomTech4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Siemens LRV’s built in 1984 are still running just fine on Pittsburgh’s T system.
@haroldb18564 жыл бұрын
Calgary and Edmonton are still running U2s built in the early 1980s.
@BloPsy__4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile TATRA T3's build in 1962 are still widely used in some eastern-europeans countries :D:D
@railwaycityrails85524 жыл бұрын
The Halton County Streetcar Museum could use one of these, if they don’t already have one.
@ThomasNing4 жыл бұрын
Look at Melbourne, so many of these still running flawlessly alongside the brand new ones in the CBD. Granted there is no snowy winter (Although it does snow sometimes), but still.
@thisiswhatbrianthinksadventure4 жыл бұрын
I remember riding one of the Articulated Streetcars on 511 Bathurst.
@keironforbes95124 жыл бұрын
Me too. I used to see them and ride them.
@thisiswhatbrianthinksadventure4 жыл бұрын
@@keironforbes9512 I love our T1 Subways on our Bloor trains, since it's lots of fun riding in the front & back Car. Also look out window too.
@eirugsiongriffiths85634 жыл бұрын
So sad,hope they get preserved.
@sauluribe70824 жыл бұрын
Sad yet interesting. We had those in LA til the 60's.
@michaelsegal35584 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool that when all the old streetcars both ALRV and CLRV have been retired and if the TTC has any left over of those stop signs that was stuck on the back window I think it would be cool if they sold those off as a piece of TTC memorabilia I actually have one of those stop signs I just haven’t figured out a good way of hanging it up yet the stop signs I’m talking about are the ones on the back windshield that read “Stop behind open streetcar doors it’s the law!”
@wonderfun79323 жыл бұрын
I remember riding them when I was younger I want it to come back
@EpicThe1124 жыл бұрын
These are almost about the same age as the Philadelphia ones 1980s era perhaps if you change the bogies from TTC Gauge to Pennsylvania Trolley gauge then you can run these in the Philadelphia streetcar Network which includes a tunnel section as a special train. Option two is give them to San Francisco for E & F trains
@DTD1108654 жыл бұрын
The SEPTA K-Cars lasted longer than the PCC-Streetcars they replaced. But many of them sound like they're not going last very long either.
@ckildegaard4 жыл бұрын
I hoped I'd get to ride these one day...oh well.
@shahimagesyt4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I used these before they got retired
@schienennahverkehrDE4 жыл бұрын
Believe me. You should keep them.
@lesuperjean4 жыл бұрын
Where can we buy this iconic streetcar's bell?
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
Russel Carhouse..
@sergeymetlechenko70124 жыл бұрын
I will miss those streetcars
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
0:38 technica productions and he was on 4204
@americangiant10034 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but were not these street cars (minus the TTC logos)used in the Original Late 1980's era Degrassi TV series? And as someone that been to Toronto several times, (most recently here in June 2019)it was cool riding these artic street cars a couple of times. Thus Happy Retirement. PS Speaking as someone that as of this typing lives about 2 Hours from NYC, the New York MTA also has huge problems with aging subway/rapid transit cars as well. So those of you in Toronto, it's part of a larger issue of upgrading mass transit in many cities worldwide. Just shows how downhill that Montreal-based Bombardier has gone in recent years. Not that long ago, they were considered maybe the best in the world with building trains/subway and light rail cars.
@wapow0064 жыл бұрын
20 years that's how long it takes for TTC to upgrade...🤦🏻♂️
@Nathan-ho7vr4 жыл бұрын
Fare evasion hurts everyone 😜
@zahbiullah30424 жыл бұрын
What difference does it make when those new streetcars still have issues? 🤦🏼♂️
@Token_Nerd4 жыл бұрын
Streetcars are supposed to last 30+ years.
@giths194 жыл бұрын
There are trams in Europe that are older than these and still running around. 30+ years for this was good. With push for accessibility it's time for them to go.
@wapow0064 жыл бұрын
We need mass rapid transit to solve congestion problems in Toronto.... We are still trying to hang onto the small city vibes at the cost of the people.
@abandonedchannel2814 жыл бұрын
Noooo, they were so cool looking
@walterdavid21382 жыл бұрын
i remember riding a street car in toronto ontario back in 1968 that is 54 years ago
@merlinandmurdoch78374 жыл бұрын
Those were in mighty machines
@raydonwaits21984 жыл бұрын
My mind: I'm 'bout to -end- restart this streetcars whole career.
@Fredddy4 жыл бұрын
I literally saw an old streetcar on the high park route a week ago :/
@randomrazr4 жыл бұрын
toornto is still one of the lucky cities to retain its street car network when most cities in north america scrapped them all, thanks oil and GM!
@mrcanada84084 жыл бұрын
The last time I was riding on this is when I was In a school trip 2014.
@snamrot20004 жыл бұрын
I remember going to Rogers Centre with these Old streetcars way better then those new ones
@TheMNrailfan2274 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Retro Streetcars
@mssimone71479 ай бұрын
I miss the sound it made....memories
@xde60103 жыл бұрын
These are ALRV Streetcars
@NeilQVLGA64554 жыл бұрын
1:17 New Flyer cap!
@lisaray1014 жыл бұрын
More buses? almost half streetcar routes are buses LOL
@thesisko40314 жыл бұрын
Picture a plug in hybird bus with a electric bar that can extend and link up with the street car electric line. Can park in designated street car parking to charge bus when on break. Can run on electric line when on street car route then go electric/gas when off route. Very sexy options that we wont do until someone else does.
@SRBAnimate4 жыл бұрын
The FRICKING 505
@wdsf31784 жыл бұрын
@@thesisko4031 You are literally talking about a trolleybus. Not sexy at all.
@killermon1174 жыл бұрын
There doing the same mistake Ottawa did when they removed light rail track for bus. Now we’re rebuilding rail tracks to replace bus.
@MrBnsftrain4 жыл бұрын
Why retire the ALRVs before the smaller CLRVs? They carry a similar amount to the new cars!
@seferino4 жыл бұрын
If it works keep it.
@TheMNrailfan2274 жыл бұрын
Seferino exactly
@TheMNrailfan2274 жыл бұрын
YAS that is what I want to hear
@schienennahverkehrDE4 жыл бұрын
This is why whe have Trams from 1970 running un my City :D
@Skyfoogle4 жыл бұрын
they dont, theyre inaccesible
@DiepSpartan1194 жыл бұрын
Ottawa doesn’t have this, but just new train
@tigrovica84174 жыл бұрын
I think Pilsen (CZ) has oldest tram still operating in normal service from 1975 (It was modernised in 2000's tho). Also Liberec (also CZ) had in the end of 2018 few trams from 1950's that were still in normal service.
@dornsmichel_13644 жыл бұрын
There is a town in eastern Germany that has trams from the early 1900s still in service Naumburg
@tigrovica84174 жыл бұрын
@@dornsmichel_1364 I think i saw those :D Very lovely
@douglasrogers46754 жыл бұрын
the tatra t3 is older than 75.
@tigrovica84174 жыл бұрын
@@douglasrogers4675 Well... yes T3's were manufactured between 1960's and 1990's. But the oldest running car it self is from 1975. (But yes, the city had T3's in the 1960's but those cars were discarded during the 1990's and early 2000's)
@tomv33614 жыл бұрын
And then there's linka 23 in Prague
@GrrMeister4 жыл бұрын
*Need Trams (Streetcars) like **_Bombardier_** manufactured for Nottingham Transit system (UK) These are absolutely brilliant, and way ahead of the ones in Toronto (which I have travelled on) Pity the Council spent so much in trying to keep obsolete cars running. **1:55** ($1 Million per car !) Sometimes it's far cheaper to scrap and get a new set of far more efficient wheels. Note these are built in Derby (UK) so post Brexit a great 'trade' deal for Canada, forever our close Friends in the UK*
@justindot48874 жыл бұрын
its not the cost, its because nobody (city politician) knows left from right... they enjoy their 4 year jobs and keep it just so that once 3 and a half comes they make their plans for another 3 and a half
@mylifeasconnor123 Жыл бұрын
In an alternate timeline where the maintenance program did keep the street cars in service for another decade wouldn’t that be nice?
@chingyuileung70574 жыл бұрын
Honestly, why can’t TTC be like New York where they keep so many retired vehicles and occasionally take them out for excursions? I mean TTC literally scraps all their Hawker Siddeley subway cars, and they sound so cool!
@TransportationHub4 жыл бұрын
I visited Toronto and I've never seen nor ridden the ALRVs.
@giths194 жыл бұрын
You missed out.
@rentablebunion234 жыл бұрын
eWorkx not really lol
@TransportationHub4 жыл бұрын
@@giths19 Well, at least I got to see the CLRV's, which will retire by the end of the year.
@TransportationHub4 жыл бұрын
@@Saucy-ws6jc I saw the CLRVs in action so that's good enough for me.
@shivamgagad56744 жыл бұрын
_Who else didn’t know Bombardier made street cars?_
@briansokoloski7764 жыл бұрын
If these where rebuilt then should find a buyer to sell Vancouver can use a couple ship West
@DTD1108654 жыл бұрын
There have to be some museums in Canada willing to preserve them.
@briansokoloski7764 жыл бұрын
@@DTD110865 you must be thinking of the streetcars with the horse in front
@DTD1108654 жыл бұрын
@@briansokoloski776 No, I'm thinking of something a little more 20th Century, and somebody mentioned a museum that did on another thread.
@lienuslatetips48944 жыл бұрын
Vancouver doesn't have any track for these?
@briansokoloski7764 жыл бұрын
@@lienuslatetips4894 there is a 1.8 mile track called the Olympic Line been abandoned for 8 years now
@mr.wyrzykowski75224 жыл бұрын
bro, in my city in poland we have 50 year old trams. they work like they should
@detroitdieselseries50712 жыл бұрын
Which city in Poland
@mr.wyrzykowski75222 жыл бұрын
@@detroitdieselseries5071 Basically every polish city with trams lol. Its the Konstal 105a and its from the 80s. so ok, maybe 40 years and not 50
@detroitdieselseries50712 жыл бұрын
@@mr.wyrzykowski7522 you know PKP cargo which still has Soviet M62s because those are modernized recently and not dumped
@CardboardSliver4 жыл бұрын
I was sad when Seattle got rid of the old Waterfront Streetcars.
@fletcherlucas79084 жыл бұрын
At least they're now tearing down the viaduct that blocked the waterfront. I feel like I've heard somewhere that they might put streetcars on Alaskan Way, much like they have on Embarcadero Boulevard in San Francisco.
@tramman82mk24 жыл бұрын
Ex Melbourne (Australia) W2 class trams ran on the waterfront :)
@schnuurtchke4 жыл бұрын
Get them preserved at Halton
@michaelsegal3558 Жыл бұрын
The new streetcars are also bendy
@offgridwanabe4 жыл бұрын
At least they are electric
@Trainfan1055Janathan4 жыл бұрын
You do realize power stations release green house gases, right? Well, except for Nuclear power.
@offgridwanabe4 жыл бұрын
@@Trainfan1055Janathan I guess you realize that ice automobiles releases their green house gases right in your face where you breath. One emitter at a distance is easier to control and capture the pollutants.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
I was on it lol
@hartstukken4 жыл бұрын
TRAMS, TRAAAMS THEY'RE TRAMS
@CardboardSliver4 жыл бұрын
Trolly
@MarcusCollins694 жыл бұрын
we call them streetcars different places different names
@Pulpswo4 жыл бұрын
20 Million on those trash cans?!
@shanewalters41714 жыл бұрын
What will replace these historic beauties?
@michaelsegal35584 жыл бұрын
Shane Walters the new Bombardier streetcars will be the new streetcar beauties of T Dot the old CLRVs and ALRVs will be gone but not forgotten
@CaptArgo244 жыл бұрын
F for respect
@TheShpmusic4 жыл бұрын
👀
@WolfeYankee4 жыл бұрын
TECHNICALLY, the new streetcars are bendy.
@matthewgregory82184 жыл бұрын
Then they should have a shuttle for now to replace the street cars
@ti10can4 жыл бұрын
At least should keep one running
@SparenofIria4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Bombardier.
@bartenderedge74504 жыл бұрын
That Sad TTC Trolleys vehicles To Retirement Me Ben-Ami Love Clrv And Alrv Trolley Cars A Okay Taking Use it Trolleys Tour's This Will Be Fun
@michaelsegal35584 жыл бұрын
I always had this thing with the old ALRVs and CLRVs and that I would never get on one if the big stop sign on the back windshield was missing but I would always report it so they can bring it into the garage and slap one on there because sometimes when the replaced the glass on that side they would forget to replace the decal and I would either call in to TTC customer service or send an email to customer service telling them the fleet number of the streetcar so they knew what streetcar needed the decal and more often than not a few days later I would see the same streetcar with the same fleet number I reported about with a decal again but the new streetcars have new lights and such that do the same job as that decal did on the old streetcars so the newer ones don’t need the decals but not to say that new streetcars don’t have other decals that need up keeping when they get worn or missing because they do on the doors and some inside the streetcar even on the subways they have those decals on the doors that need replacing if they get worn or missing and so the busses and I always make a note of it and report it so it can get replaced on any TTC vehicle if I see it
@DarthTheGamer4 жыл бұрын
The TTC kept using those for way too long. If they wanted to keep them they should’ve renovated them. Glad they are being retired. They need to renovate the T1’s or start mixing them with TR’s.
@blankspace_4 жыл бұрын
DarthTheGamer shut up.
@negevsareforpros92504 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Budd Stainless Steel*
@alexanderpbyron4 жыл бұрын
I live in London and have never specified an interest in trams, why is this on my Recommended feed...?
@cmartin_ok4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been to Toronto? I have once and this is on my recommended list too. Maybe KZfaq algorithms are written by people with tram fetishes?
@alexanderpbyron4 жыл бұрын
@@cmartin_ok Lol. No problem, never been to Canada - I'd love to though! Google knows I'm visiting Chicago in October. Maybe it thought that was close enough!
@cmartin_ok4 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderpbyron Have fun in Chicago, I've been there once. Public transportation trains go from ORD O'Hare into the city centre. Watch for beggars/vagrants, never seen so many in one city as I saw in Chicago.
@alexanderpbyron4 жыл бұрын
@@cmartin_ok Thanks for the details - will keep them in mind!
@AnnaLVajda4 жыл бұрын
Could they park them somewhere keep the heater on and let the homeless sit in them to warm up?
@jasonmurphy98554 жыл бұрын
These old cars are a sign of the waste and corrosion and rot that plagues the 6ix.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
No corrosion get your "facts" right.
@blankspace_4 жыл бұрын
jason murph ur a sign of stupidity and disrespect
@dsintel66524 жыл бұрын
I mean theyre called trams but ok
@MarcusCollins694 жыл бұрын
we call them Streetcars different places different names
@sxflyer54104 жыл бұрын
Don‘t do the same mistake like Munich! Keep as many of the old ones as possible until there are enough of the new Bombardier ones in the fleet! Replacing streetcars by buses is a joke!
@mumenraider4 жыл бұрын
What did they do on Munich?
@marilllover21773 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Siemens create the new street cars?
@CreatorPolar2 жыл бұрын
Siemens did the ones in Seattle
@marilllover21772 жыл бұрын
@@CreatorPolar thanks
@franki3Ru5504 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they wanted to keep those old streetcars longer.. those streetcars are outdated lol
@georgepriv76744 жыл бұрын
Just keep the CLRVs.
@leifliltorp15664 жыл бұрын
No more buses please!!!!
@knessing76814 жыл бұрын
The street cars don't have to be a total lost ... the city can sell these refurbished street cars to developing city in a third world country. Or sell these cars to a smaller neighbouring city or to one of the cities in the Maritime Provinces. The city and taxpayers has sunk to much money into these cars to be just scrapped.
@Welcomeback7074 жыл бұрын
You know what... I loved the old street car the new one sucks smell so bad ... can’t open window smells so bad the new one
@danielplayfair35964 жыл бұрын
You mean trams
@MarcusCollins694 жыл бұрын
we call them streetcars different places different names
@danielplayfair35964 жыл бұрын
SpeedRunner Man oh yeah and different cultures with your fun school events
@whatthefunk054 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@fraudsarentfriends47174 жыл бұрын
Streetcars should last around 50 years, not 30 years.
@friggerx31504 жыл бұрын
Harsh canadian enviroment, calgarys lrt cars only lasted about 30 years as well. Now in califorina probably 50+.
@fraudsarentfriends47174 жыл бұрын
@@friggerx3150 Sunny Calgary isn't as bad as Michigan.Maybe it's just kickbacks to Bombardier.Anyway,i guess it's their problem.
@jmsalgorithms4 жыл бұрын
Laughs in proprietary track and bogey width
@MrAlen6e4 жыл бұрын
Only people that dislike streetcars and bike lanes are car drivers. They don't use transit so how would they know what's good for the TTC anyway
@DTD1108654 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true, since I'm a car driver and I've used streetcars in the Metro Philadelphia area. And I have nothing against bike lanes, as long as they're not used to obstruct other traffic.
@es-qf2gw4 жыл бұрын
For a lot of people Public Transportation doesnt make sense, some people its cheaper to own a car and have more time at home and less on the road.
@CardboardSliver4 жыл бұрын
I'm a car driver, and I think Streetcars are charming.
@giths194 жыл бұрын
20mil to maintain aging ALRVs? I'm not trying to tell big decision makers how to do their jobs but why couldn't they fast track the electric buses program with that money? They could have used the electric buses on these same routes they are now using diesel buses.
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
Buses are more labor intensive than Streetcars
@giths194 жыл бұрын
@@RRansomSmith I'm not talking in general I'm talking in this instant. They spent 20mil at 1mil a piece only to buy about 2 more years for the ALRVs. That was not money well spent. My point is they could have invested that money on new buses since they are already using buses to cover these routes until all the streetcars are delivered.
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
@@giths19 buses don't last as long as Streetcars and cost more over time so why waste that money when you could spend a little more and have a vehicle last way longer? There's a reason you are not the CFO.
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
And besides, buses don't carry the capacity nor do they accelerate as quickly as a streetcar so again, they did right.
@sda99954 жыл бұрын
Streetcars are no fun to ride anymore 😥
@day19714 жыл бұрын
How come nobody say anything about our beautiful busses, at least busses are more reliable and they don’t hold of the traffic
@blankspace_4 жыл бұрын
day1971 streetcars are Better.
@ttcclrvfan70274 жыл бұрын
Streetcars are better, they accommodate more people...