Should YOU buy a 360 camera? Insta360 vs DJI Osmo Action 4 review

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360 cameras like the Insta60 X3 and X4 are big news right now, thanks to their ability to capture everything, then allow you to reframe your shots later. But are they REALLY as good as the influencers and marketing make out? Is there an reason to still buy a 'traditional' single-lens action camera like a GoPro or the DJI Osmo Action 4 compared here?
I've shot the footage that I want, in the conditions I needed to shoot in - NOT what suited the cameras - to help YOU decide which one to buy...
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Chapters
00:00 Do you need a 360 camera?
02:58 Insta360 vs DJI Osmo Action 4 image quality
05:32 How fragile are Insta360 lenses?
07:10 Removing selfie sticks and mounts
09:14 Why single lens action camera shots look more exciting
11:31 Indoor image quality and detail
14:09 Audio quality on a motorbike
14:53 Horizon levelling and vibration
16:40 What makes the Insta360 great
19:50 Low light and night footage comparison
22:43 Insta360 vs DJI Osmo Action 4: Which is best?
24:03 ND filters and getting a natural blur
26:30 Which would I buy if I could only have one?
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@thehappydublinbiker Ай бұрын

Great video as usual. I have lens covers on my X3 and they work well. Managed to smash one cover and crack the display screen this weekend as I accidently dragged the camera around a gravel pit when the pole came loose on the back of the bike and the swung down onto the ground! Keep up the great work.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers, and hope the camera's still working okay! All the best, John

@903lew Ай бұрын

Some of the best customer advice out there available here on this channel. Chapeau as always. Years ago I was flying paragliders in Catalonia under the instruction of an old world record holder. One of us asked how we could fly as safe as we could as it’s a somewhat dangerous sport. “Don’t compete and don’t film yourself. Both of those things bring out too much bravery.”

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Good advice! Cheers, John

@bloodknottrevelian3396 Ай бұрын

Excellent video. Looking forward to the same comparison with the x4 which I will be buying shortly. Yes the x4 will accept voice commands from my Cardo comms and the x4 battery duration has been significantly improved over the x3. 👍

@ugparmar1568 17 күн бұрын

Well explained, Thanks, what about file sizes for 1 min footage on either.

@patsonabike Ай бұрын

Very good, in-depth video. Judging on this review, I wouldprobably go for the 360 camera, purely because I love the idea of having different perspectives for the same situation. Having said that, the capture of the lean angles does look a lot more spectacular on the single lens camera. Would be great to have a camera that could combine these two features, without combining the prices. :) Mind you, it's all a bit academic as I promised myself I would not get another camera after my Ghost Drift, flew off at Dunkirk on the motorway. That was enough money down the drain. Such a shame because the landscapes and cliffedge hairpins here would make a real thrilling video, especially as I'm getting more confident at negotiating them. Anyway, as you can attach both cameras to your bikes, you have a really good mix and match. That's why your videos look so professional. Thank you for another informative report. :)

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks so much, and sorry to hear about the lost Drift - gutting! Yes - I'd love a feature on a 360 camera to be able to reframe, but also to 'assign' a horizon. Cheers, John

@bdc2007 6 күн бұрын

Thanks. Great review. You addressed all the questions that I’ve been asking.

@bennettsbikesocial 6 күн бұрын

Great, thanks! All the best, John

@TheJWC56RSA 19 күн бұрын

The future for action is 360 cameras primarily because of reframing - they have come a long way in a short time and are in "childhood" state now but soon will mature. I use both 360 (One X2 & X3) as well as single lens ones (GoPro) on my motorcycles but prefer the 360 route. And yes, the current generation Insta360 cameras do have a slight disadvantage ONLY in resolution especially when viewed on large 4K screens (a very few people do that! - the majority use cell phone screens). I use Insta360 Studio, reframe, export 200 mbps 5760 res. - than import into Adobe Prem. Pro, colour grade and export... By far the only advantage the single lens has is only resolution - For now. Regards!

@Aaron_Ada 9 күн бұрын

Ya. I think we are basically 1 iteration from full on not needing a non 360 camera. I get his point about 4k TVs, but I only know a few people that watch youtube on a TV (infrequently), and I don't think they would be that picky about resolution. I think the X4 is at the teenager stage (to continue your analogies). If I was to go for a non 360 in addition to an X4 it would be the new Go that came out because it offers PoVs and shots that the X4 can't do. There are diminishing returns on resolution. Even on my 49" 4k ultra-wide I only watch youtube on 1440 as I sit close enough to the screen where I cannot tell the difference..let alone 8k. AND even with 1Gig fiber loading multiple 4k/8k starts to stutter, AND you need a fairly high end PC to display them in the first place. By the time Gcards, and displays get to the point where you can tell a difference the 360 cameras will be outputting 16k. I think people who do editing by default have a far more critical eye because they ware closely watching the footage, and they are almost certainly watching on a high end machine. The average Joe isn't pushing 4k/8k. Lastly, to your point. I am willing to bet the VAST majority of action footage is viewed on phones (tiktok, IG, YT shorts, YT proper), where 1440 is WAY more than enough. Does the DJI or Acepro have objectively better footage? Yup. Does it matter? Probably not.

@Alamgir13799 3 сағат бұрын

@@Aaron_Adawhat do you mean???Explain to me in simple words۔۔

@MotoGoato Ай бұрын

Another cracking test and review from Mr Milbank, thank you!!

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! All the best, John

@niclasroberts Ай бұрын

Cracking stuff as per usual John. I spent far too long deciding whether to get a 360 or single lens cam and opted for an Osmo Action 4. Very impressed so far. The biggest gripe I have with it is how it captures footage from the past. The loop mode breaks the footage down into chunks of a couple of minutes so a 5 minute video ends up being 2x 2 minute clips and a 1 minute clip. They don't stitch together perfectly so as far as I'm concerned the feature is useless. The pre record mode is the better option for bike footage in my opinion as it holds a maximum of 60 seconds of footage in the bank; more than enough to capture anything interesting you witness. The problem with pre rec is that it can't be applied to a custom preset and has to be turned on manually every time. Not a huge problem but definitely annoying.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I hadn't spotted that with loop recording - that is odd. The gap between continuous recording in the studio is about 0.2 seconds, so not a problem, and clips are around 30 minutes long. Cheers, John

@1100andFortyEight Ай бұрын

Replaceable stick on lens guards are available for the X3 from either Insta or aftermarket.

@davidz8 Ай бұрын

Just another great in depth video, Thank you.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! Cheers, John

@yakekaj Ай бұрын

Smashing review as always. So basically get the dji unless you want really cool footage of you crashing😂

@jeremywinfield470 Ай бұрын

Great video again John. Just wondering which brand of helmet mounts you use or recommend.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! I've avoided helmet mounting until recently, and now I use the Nexx X.Wed3 when I want to do those shots as it has the mount built in. Here's the review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNWaltZil7Pbnp8.html

@alainmichaud6747 Ай бұрын

Great review, I have an action3 that i like very much and was wondering for a second camera what to buy for the motorcycle . Thanks for helping me decide , I will stay with the DJI and will get the 4. Alain & Yellow

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! They're both good bits of kit, but it's really helped me in comparing them directly. Cheers, John

@nobadname 11 күн бұрын

Hi. Thanks for a great review. really got som new insight into these cameras. To bad GoPro wasn't in the review. Interesting that vibration can make the cameras shut down.

@RobTVFilCanLife 15 күн бұрын

great shots! Thanks

@simp99bird Ай бұрын

Thanks for a great review. It was a bit late for me as I already committed to a DJI Action 3 but I am very happy with my choice. There are some great deals on the Action 3 at the moment. You can currently buy the Adventure Combo kit which includes the charging case with three batteries and selfie stick for £300. The Action 3 isn't quite as capable in low light but for daytime use I think most won't notice any difference between that and the Action 4. I wonder if you have a problem the battery door on your Action 4 not fully closing and latching. I checked mine after hearing your comment and the battery door shuts with a distinct click of the latch and definitely can't be opened without pressing the button.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers, and that is a great price! Yeah, the door's fullyl shut, but pressure above the button still releases it. It's not happening all the time, and once aware I've not done it since!! Cheers, John

@nickrider5220 Ай бұрын

Great work again John, thanks 👍🏻

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers! All the best, John

@blade1535 4 күн бұрын

What video settings/codecs did you use for each camera? Was the insta 360 in H265 with high bitrate?

@TheM0JEC 4 күн бұрын

I have the X4 (have had other ‘action’ and 360 cameras before) I don’t ride a bike (my step brother died on one when I was about 10) but use it in my classic car. Great comparison and as you say it depends what you want but for ‘all round’ (literally and multi use) the 360 is great. Keep up the good work and keep safe.

@bennettsbikesocial 3 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear about your step brother!

@stoatsngroatsuk5012 9 күн бұрын

Insta 360 One RS can be bought with twin lenses, including a 360 and a 4k single. Worth a look? 🙏😀

@HellbellyUK 15 күн бұрын

One way round the stabilisation issue with ND filters is to turn off the stabilisation, shoot at 2.7k or 4k (4:3) video at 24 to 60 fps, or a 2.7k or 4k (16:9) video at 100/120 fps and then use Gyroflow to stabilise the video in post.

@onlymyopiniontech 13 күн бұрын

Great overall video. Here are a couple of points for people to consider. If you plan to post your videos to KZfaq where most people will be watching on a phone the resolution won't be that big a deal. Since most people won't stop the video and zoom in on anything does that really matter. As far as the jiggle when mounted on the rear of the bike goes, that's due to the pole moving. If the camera had an inch of travel due to the flex in the mount it won't show up on a distant object but anything in the near field will show up. One inch of mount travel at 300 yards is vastly different than the same travel at 3 feet. Although the same pole was used to mount both cameras the weight difference and the 360 physically extending the pole would likely cause more deflection in the pole. I have all three brands of cameras (and no affiliation) so I don't I'm just listing things for people to consider. Fixed lens is quick and easy but a lot more thought and planning needs to go into your shot and sometimes means multiple passes from different locations. With an x3 or x4 you just need to decide the viewing perspective and can make multiple videos from the same footage. Having both is always a good option too. For a forward facing camera do you like the bike visible or would a camera in front of the bike with just the road be fun? Camera movement and vibration are the two biggest problems on a bike.

@Back2TheBike Ай бұрын

Some comments based on my filming experience. I've lost 3 bike mounted cameras due to the inevitable vibration. Handlebar mounts work best if that's what you want. My workhorse is GoPro 7 which has been very reliable @1440p, a nice balance of image quality v file size. 4K will eat your hard drive in weeks. The best mount position? Definitely chin for me, more involving, speedo and controls in view, and allows the viewer to see what you're seeing in the 3rd person. My challenge was doing that on a the modular Shoei Neotec 2. After many prototypes I created a centrally mounted plastic tab, which I epoxyed a Gopro bracket to. Plugs into my lav mic via GPs mic adaptor and perfect for my Back2TheBike channel which focuses on safe riding.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers for this! If you can, please join the FB group and share some pics of the mount - would love to see it. All the best, John

@Back2TheBike Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial I dont do FB John but happy to email you. I'm on my Google gmail address as per my YT channel name.

@gingerelvis 12 күн бұрын

Great real world comparison, like you say too many videos are in ideal conditions or secretly sponsored (looking at you Insta360). They are all specialty cameras with their own benfits but altimately do different jobs. I saw an awesome in helmet shot using an Insta360 Go3 on 44Teath the other day, overall a bit of a cack camera but it's size and flexibilty allows for unique shots like that.

@johannesstahl3370 20 күн бұрын

For the X3 there are also removable lens guards available.

@forced-induction Ай бұрын

If you want really steady and smooth video then the Gopro is king here imo and with the max lens mod you can get some really good cinematic footage. But Gopro just do not like being mounted to motorbikes. I've had a couple and 3 of my friends all have issues with it randomly shutting down, freezing etc. Admittedly this is on track and I haven't had issues on road riding.

@UpsideDownFork Ай бұрын

Foam windmuff for the Action 4 was a gamechanger for me capturing sound when not using the wireless mic setup.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers - will have a look for one. All the best, John

@DrewProject 16 күн бұрын

I’m not surprised. I avoided 360 cameras so far but the new x4 sounds extremely interesting. I wish you compared the x4 and the a4 unstead

@Bangbangboom51 19 күн бұрын

As a rider, I came from a gopro12 and daym did I missed a lot of shots and angles due to it being a regular action camera. Friend lend me his insta360 for a good week and holy mother!!! sold my gopro and switch to insta360. Yes, Gopro video quality is still higher but whats the point of it if the subject you want to show is not in frame. though the Insta360 X3 is a bithch to mount as you need secondary clamps to make sure it doesn't fall of when riding.

@Tim955w 17 күн бұрын

Excellent consumer information thank you. Do you have an opinion on the image quality in good light from a stills point of view comparing a DJI Action 4 to say a particular level of smartphone or compact cameras. Best wishes.

@bennettsbikesocial 17 күн бұрын

Cheers! It's not something I've tried to be honest - I never use action cameras for stills, instead turning to my Pixel 7 Pro if I'm not using my 'proper' camera. Cheers, John

@CarlosGCB-roll Ай бұрын

great video, quick question when you render the video what Bit rate did you used with the insta360 X 4??

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I ony have the X3, but 100mbps

@geekinthegarden3927 10 күн бұрын

Nice comparison and breakdown. I have the X3 and one thing is that if you make longer ideos then it stops recording at 29 minutes then starts recording anew file - missing about 15 second of footage. I don't know about the DJI or it it has a similar issue.

@bennettsbikesocial 10 күн бұрын

I meant to put that in the video actually - you're absolutely right. The DJI loses just a tiny fraction of a second between clips. The length of the clips varies, and I can't find a pattern, but it's a lot easier to use a a second camera for interviews etc

@geekinthegarden3927 10 күн бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial Apparently thats something that the x4 fixes. I'm contemplating upgrading to the x4 as the x3 really just gives around a 1080 image (even in 4k single lens mode) due to the nature of the sensor layout - you just cant get 4k out of 2880x2880. The x4 should give a decent 3k image out of it's 2 circular images on the 2 4k sensors

@mstuartkendall 10 күн бұрын

Thanks! I like DJI as well, but out of all the single lens action cameras the DJI action camera shoots with this weird wide angle, even in its narrow setting. I use action cameras for many reasons and most of my shooting requires a narrower point of view than the DJI camera can shoot. I prefer the ace pro or the GoPro over the DJI for this reason alone. I picked up an X4 a couple of days ago, and after using it just for a couple days, I cannot imagine any single lens action camera out performing it, even for your situation. It is just amazingly flexible to the needs of the person behind the camera, or should I say, the 360 is the person behind the camera.

@bankruptpensioner 17 күн бұрын

Interesting, I have both the action 4 and the X3. I am finding I am using the X3 less and less. The x3 is great, just the output is simply no where as sharp as the action 4.

@MattSwain1 Ай бұрын

I have an Insta 360 One R and I wouldn’t go back to a non-360 camera. It’s so much easier to just mount the camera, set it recording and sort out the footage later. No faffing about trying to make sure the camera is level etc. Being able to spin the footage in the final video is always fun. Most of my footage only gets shared on social media with friends so it doesn’t need to be cinematic quality As always there’s no one perfect solution, there will be instances where a standard camera is better but for my purposes I’ll be sticking with a 360 cam.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Absolutely! Both definitely have their places. Cheers, John

@ReevyMotovlogs Ай бұрын

Cracking review, as someone that purchased the DJI Osmo Action 4 and was kindly sent the Insta360 cameras for free, I can safely say they both have their place in any motorcycle content creators setup. May I ask your settings for the Osmo Action 4? I’ve been testing many different settings this past week and have been trying to dial in the perfect settings.

@ReevyMotovlogs Ай бұрын

Also for the DJI Mic 2, if you use an intercom with a mic that has one of those bendy arms, I found the transmitter fits on them perfectly.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I left it all as Auto for this review, and didn't tweak anything in Premier Pro. In future, I'll probably use Log, and in the garage I might use auto ISO, 50th second, manual white balance and Log, but so far I've left it all on Auto.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Great idea for the mic, thanks!

@sjconsultants5998 11 күн бұрын

Just so you know if you used the lens protectors from the beginning you would’ve saved your x3 and no they’re not just on the x4, they’re available for x2, x3 and x4

@devilmaycry383 Ай бұрын

Recently bought the Insta360 X4 i will be testing it on my motorcycle after my Japan trip this month. Being my first 360 camera, I am really looking forward to the creative possibilities.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Have a great time on Japan - it's awesome! Cheers, John

@iameric8709 Ай бұрын

Great job on this review! Thank you! I would go for the Insta 360... 😁😀

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Cheers, John

@NeonLuvBar Ай бұрын

Biggest problem I had with my Insta360 X3 was wind noise. Couldn't use foam baffles coz I have the camera in a frame mount on my helmet (chin mount). The solution was to put a small piece of tape over the microphone slots on both sides of the camera, with the tape covering the front half of the slots. It made a big difference to the sound quality.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Nice one, thanks!

@LotusExige350 Ай бұрын

Great video. What's the battery life like on the DJI at 4k?

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

At 4K25, with Horizon Balancing on, but on my desk indoors, it ran for 111 minutes. Hope that helps!

@MyTimetoRide 14 күн бұрын

On a recent trip to Upper Mustang Nepal, my insta 360 was a work horse. It ran for hours a would not shut off, and it gave good quality video. My GoPro Max would over heat and shut off as would my GoPro 9 and 11. It was impressive!

@Detroit313sneakerlover 3 күн бұрын

I’ve had both and prefer the DJI action 4 the insta 360 x4 takes to much after throught after shooting the action I can press record and post it with out caring about the extra turning the view around in the app I can just literally turn my head while I’m recording if it’s that serious for me to show something.

@IanTed Ай бұрын

Still using my X2 alongside my Action 3 and 4, I prefer the quality of the Actions but the 360 flexibility can be fun. The 360 is easily damaged though and I hate the ‘tiny planet’ shot. I use the 4 on my chin mount with the 3 facing back towards me from the handlebars, the 360 can be mounted almost anywhere on a bright day but the later versions are better apparently in low light.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Yeah, totally agree on the tricksy shots from 360 cameras. Cheers, John

@sr53 Ай бұрын

After seeing so many reviews regarding the x3, no one mentioned the image quality is not really all there. Found that out after getting one.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

It's good, but a dedicated single lens action camera definitely has the edge. Unfortunately, finding unbiased reviews can be hard... Cheers, John

@mikemcallister3138 Ай бұрын

Excellent ! VERY HELPFUL,,

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! Which would you go for? All the best, John

@CruisingWithLens 14 күн бұрын

Loved the pragmatic approach of comparison and am happy that I did not go for insta 360 as my primary camera. Use DJI osmo action 4 as primary camera and plan to buy insta 360 as secondary camera. Thanks.

@bennettsbikesocial 14 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! Cheers, John

@tharangabasnayake Ай бұрын

I've started using a Hero Session on commutes as a helmet cam and on trackdays on the nose of my ZX6 The 2 hour battery life (possibly less as they're second hand) is a problem as is my convoluted processing workflow. The small form factor is why I prefer it over everything else. I don't need a screen and I keep the wifi off to save battery. I like being able to edit on any software too.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I haven't used one, but the battery life is similar on full-size single-lens action cameras too - I measured 111 minutes on the Action 4. Can you power the Sessions while it's in use? I guess it'll compromise water resistance though. Cheers, John

@tharangabasnayake Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial thanks John. I haven't tried powering the Sessions on the go yet. Wiring power from a redundant headlight plug on the track bike was an idea I was going to look into if needed. The trackday setup works because at worst I can charge the camera between runs. The helmet cam scenario could need extended recording times and it would be curious if overheating becomes an issue when recording at 4K (on the Hero5 Session) if power wasn't a problem. Being a fairweather rider, the water resistance isn't a huge consideration (I wonder if putty or bluetac would do as a temporary seal) but I would have to think about running power cables up to my helmet and storing batteries etc. Solving that could also extend the life of the cameras as the batteries aren't removable.

@ChristophLehner Ай бұрын

finally some unsponsered actual good content thank you!

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Cheers, John

@WisePaul1337 Ай бұрын

Cheers John, good video

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! All the best, John

@kalvindeane1 10 күн бұрын

Would be nice if you did the review with the X4 instead of the X3. The image quality and low light are a bit better, and they support 100fps at 4k. Still not as good as the DJI in terms of picture quality, but it bridges the gap somewhat. I run a USB-C cable into the USB port on my bike to keep the X4 charged while riding. If you run it along the selfie stick you don't see it in the footage.

@bennettsbikesocial 10 күн бұрын

I'm on it... cheers, John

@user-jh8np2zv5p Күн бұрын

i love the idea of the 360 .. but the image quality'' is no way picking that.. i'm going with the action 4 or even wait for the action 5

@FatherOBlivion Ай бұрын

Haven't watched yet (about to), but I do have both these cameras. I use the Osmo Action far more than the X3. Osmo has amazing image quality, Insta X3 provides some interesting angles, and imagine it would be great for reviews, but personally far prefer the Osmo. Not to mention I needed a lens replacement after the very first ride with the X3 (rock chipped the lens). Now to watch and hear the take of an actual pro...

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Cheers! How and where did you get the lens replaced please?

@Studiggler 8 күн бұрын

Just have the X3 for 360 stuff and use single lens mode for normal action cam footage. It’s a 2 in 1 machine and well worth the money

@tischot Ай бұрын

how would the DJI serve as a motorcycle dashcam?

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Should be fine, as it can loop. Cheers, John

@inspectorclouseau3880 Ай бұрын

interesting video mate, cheers

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks! John

@IAMKR15 Ай бұрын

I used to take my motovlogs with the GoPro hero10 and the insta360 x2. Now with the insta360 Ace Pro and the X2. The Hero 10 , does have better color and audio, but the reliability of it working properly is something to cringe. The Ace Pro trumps all with low light using pure video mode

@rolandspencer5388 Ай бұрын

Nice review John. However if you want the best of both worlds get a insta 360 one RS. It has swappable 360 and 4k static modules.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Oh bugger, now you've complicated things! Haha! Cheers, John

@TopblokeGolf 20 күн бұрын

Nah, don’t want to be faffing around . Insta looks iPhone 6 quality .

@honeyyeti5292 Ай бұрын

Great video as always….👍

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! Cheers, John

@xjsonx Ай бұрын

Are all youtubers being sent these by DJI? Just wondering why all the sudden every single person seems to be making vids about their camera gear and DJI specifically. I’d quite like one but conscious of the paid for hype industry at present. But great video none the less. Thanks

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

It could be the algorithm feeding what you've seen recently. I've been working on this video way too long - to the point that the Insta360 has been superceded. There's absolutely no paid for content here. Cheers, John

@xjsonx Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial Awesome thanks for the response. Not that theres a problem with anyone trying to make a living as long as its impartial. I saw TMF do a video then all sudden everyone was switching to DJI. Thanks for the video 👌

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

@@xjsonx I'm lucky in that I get paid a salary by Bennetts, so never do any paid reviews (and never will). I've been using sponsorship from Calimoto to help pay for the Zontes project bike we bought, but always keep that transparent.

@ianhughesroyalenfield Ай бұрын

I have a DJI Osmo Action 3, with DJI mic adaptor. I did buy the DJI lav mic, but still found it too “hot”, clipping far too often, so now use a third party mic. I quite often praise DJI for this masterpiece, but I bought it with my own money, as my channel is not big enough for hand outs by the big boys yet 😢. Through my KZfaq monetisation, I am now saving up for the Osmo Action 4, and am not tempted away from the brand, but admittedly the 360 Air Pro does look pretty damn good, but it is more expensive than the DJI.

@anti-cheaterchannels2153 Ай бұрын

@bennettsbikesocial odd take as I think you e slightly misinterpreted the question maliciously or not. But dji is currently doing sponsors this month, so all the top UK influences including yourself have been doing videos.

@hagnbike 6 күн бұрын

It's absolutely expected that a 360 cam, that has to distribute the 8k resolution over 360 degrees when you cut out a 155 degree part than a 4k camera that records the full 4k at 155 degrees. There's more about it though. The footage of a camera mounted to the helmet feels alive and doesn't require any reframing. So Ideally the 360 camera comes in in addition to a tranditional one. The 360 cam footage is then the rider an b-roll cam, while the helmet camera is the main camera. I would always go for the 360 cam as a second camera. As a primary cam, it creates a lot of work (reframing in post) while creating rather boring footage, because the movements are quite static.

@GreyBiker99 Ай бұрын

I bought the Insta360 X3 not long after it came out as I thought it would be the do-it-all camera I needed. After using it for a trip to Scotland, I was really disappointed with the image quality (given that it was Scotland and therefore grey and overcast most of the time). I'd also paired my airpods so I could use them as mics inside my helmet, but as there was no way to adjust the gain, the audio was unusable. I ended up selling it and getting two Osmo Action 4's along with the DJI Mic 2 and the difference it worlds apart. If you don't need the ability to reframe the image, the 360 just doesn't cut it for me.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks for this - it's really helpful, and encouraging to know I'm getting the same results as others. Cheers, John

@Yowzoe Ай бұрын

Very thoughtful and helpful considerations for me as I am just about to pull the trigger on the X4. I have an unopened old GoPro Hero 5 which I’m also going to use - I’ll learn both on a month-long ride on the West Coast of the US. Thanks again for another great one :-)

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Thanks very much! I'm still using my Hero 5 - at the moment it's shooting timelapse for the next corrosion test. All the best and have an awesome trip, John

@suzukibandit400V Күн бұрын

I have both (a Gopro and a 360) and they're just different in purpose and capabilities. They're just good at what they can do, and depending of what I need I use either one or the other...or both. I would NEVER use my 360 without lens cover protectors, btw ;)

@JiajuChen 14 күн бұрын

action 5 pro is coming next months or so. So keep your hands down unless you really need them.

@emdeethao 10 күн бұрын

Oh man, I'll just wait for the action 5 😂

@hks071 Ай бұрын

If u use the insta360 one rs, u can replace the camera lens if damaged as they are modular

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

It's a good point! It'd be £120 though

@hks071 Ай бұрын

@bennettsbikesocial just don't drop it. I have camera shields on it to protect it.

@ClassicCyclingCC 2 күн бұрын

No doubt that 360 cameras are the future. However I don’t think the technology is quite there yet. It is getter better all the time and it is really close but it still needs refinement with the stitching, the image quality, and the robustness. It will get there for sure, but I am going to wait just a little longer.

@AlexOnABoat Күн бұрын

Much as I love watching all these comparison videos, I can't help but think. "I'm watching this on my phone" Can I tell the diffence? Most of the time no, I can't. But then most of the time it's as much down to the content creator's abilities as the camera's.

@vincenash1358 Ай бұрын

I find footage on 360s can be really off putting , make me feel a bit seasick with all the wobble and how the edges are so curved 😢

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

It does depend how its framed and rendered I reckon. Cheers, John

@RogersMotorcycleAdventures 21 күн бұрын

Feels a little apples to oranges to me? You can use them both for the exact same manner, but why would you? Each has it's own use case.

@bennettsbikesocial 21 күн бұрын

It's true that each has its own pros and cons, but not everyone can afford both, so this highlights the differences.

@felipe-nt-d Күн бұрын

Is that a Beeline Moto II on the Kawi?

@bennettsbikesocial 2 сағат бұрын

Yes - great bit of kit. www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-technology/beeline-moto-ii-2-review

@user-uo5me4qv8q Ай бұрын

I tried to use the DJI4 on the race track...but it stops recording always after a few minutes...definately a action cam that cannot handle action...only use for slow riding

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Did you have fixed firmly to the bars? As explained in the video, I had it shut down due to extreme vibration when clamping directly to the crash bars, and a GoPro Hero 11 did exactly the same thing.

@Paulie44 Ай бұрын

I’ve got both the GoPro 10 and Insta360 One X2. The reliability of the GoPro almost renders it useless, so I’ve subsequently bought an Osmo Action 4 based on MissendenFlyer’s review. The Insta360 X2 is best for skiing/snowboarding. The Osmo Action 4 is best for helmet mounted motovlogging.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

The problem I've had with GoPros is that, despite wireless connections being off, and charging them the night before, they're sometimes flat the next day.

@Paulie44 Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial if that’s been your only problem then you’ve been incredibly lucky! Besides the short battery life, I’ve also had random shut downs, crashes, corrupt files, audio not recording, and high temperature shutdowns with my GoPro 10. I was a faithful GoPro consumer and bought each generation from 7 through 10, but after all the reliability issues I decided enough was enough for a camera costing close to £500 and switched to DJI (recently purchased but not tested yet). Hopefully the DJI Osmo Action 4 will be reliable as I like to record my memorise from going on tour with my mates.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

@@Paulie44 Hope you get on well with it! Cheers, John

@rlw85 Ай бұрын

What about the insta ace pro I think most of us just want to press record and let the unit sort things for us

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I haven't used that, but the aim of this video was to highlight many of the differences between a 360 and single lens camera. Cheers, John

@rlw85 Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial o sorry I thought it was a comparison video between the two cameras

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

It is comparing those two, obviously, but it's mainly to show the pros and cons of two different styles of camera. It'd be great to compare the Osmo Action 4, Hero 12 and Ace Pro...

@Coatsey007 16 күн бұрын

I think it’s a good topic for a video but I have to be warmly critical, the moment it was not the X4. I lost interest but that’s just me. The reason being is you’re not comparing what is available today. The ability to reframe after is just simply too powerful a function. You make great videos, far better than mine, and I have two Action 4’s and Insta x4, and whilst the video quality is slightly different the benefits massively outweigh this minor difference.

@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын

I'll be looking at the X4 in the future, but it wasn't about when I started this! Tech reviews are a sideline really - security testing and exposing dangerous kit take up a huge amount of time: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7aRaLFlqc7cqIE.html

@Coatsey007 16 күн бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial thank you for taking my comment constructively, it was meant that way and that’s classy of you.

@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын

@@Coatsey007 You were right though! It was so long before I got to do this that the tech was changing. Insta360 saw this though, and asked if I'd like to review the X4, so I will be doing that (under my independent terms as usual). Expect that around September. Cheers!

@LifeWithKernelLee 14 күн бұрын

Buy both

@71sagittarius 4 күн бұрын

Osmo 4 to me is much better.

@DarthDainese Ай бұрын

I suppose the main benefit of having a 360 is in case of an accident ie, being hit from behind. the only camera I bought was the gopro 5 and wasn't happy with the audio Do you always wear trainers? tsk tsk Interesting point about vibration I've noticed the vibration on my 2019 1260 Enduro most noticeably on the mirrors

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

For that, I think the best bet is a dedicated dash cam with front and rear cameras that you can then forget about, but a 360 camera would work. Cheers, John

@MalContent Ай бұрын

360 Cameras can also function as single lens so you get the best of both worlds with a 360,

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Did you watch all the bits comparing it in single lens mode?

@motorcyclistfromholland8856 29 күн бұрын

I sold my insta 360 and bought a normal action cam. DJI Osmo action 3. I found the image quality of the 360 not that great

@bennettsbikesocial 29 күн бұрын

Cheers! Are you tempted by the Insta360 X4?

@motorcyclistfromholland8856 29 күн бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial no not in any way. People forget that you need a lot of Megapixels to get and cover a full 360 degrees image. I started with a GoPro 8 which had amazing image quality but overheated easily and low battery life. The Osmo action 3 had a serious long battery life and does everything I need.

@bennettsbikesocial 29 күн бұрын

Brilliant, thanks!

@davidberman5121 Ай бұрын

I am a pro video shooter for work and bike shooter for fun. I discounted the 360 based on cost and workflow. I have a few GP’s up to 10 and have found their stab to be great when hard mounted on my Guzzi V7. The Action 4 is a nice convenient mount and integration with mic2 awesome. However. When mounted to the bike, the vibration renders footage unusable. I am starting to get very worried as off to Italy soon and still haven’t sorted picture vibrations. Fully manual or fully auto, unless attached to my body it’s not an option. Using a nd8 to try to keep some details in the sky and a slightly slower shutter 160 still makes it jump about. I’ll get there but wonder if you could share what you have settled on for successful run and gun shooting. My shakedown tests recently with action 4 and pocket 3 + mic2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q55orNegx92ch2w.htmlsi=H7nKiBbb0IVAb6Y0

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Are you mounting it directly to the frame / bars / crash bars? I found that if I used a mount with an arm on it (the DJI one, or the other I showed in the clip), the vibration issues were gone. If I mounted it direct onto the Zontes or R1250GS crash bars using the clamp with no arm, the DJI and the GoPro would shut off. Hope that helps! Cheers, John

@davidberman5121 Ай бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocialthanks John. Yeah, direct on the hard bits of the bike. I have a 360vibration dampener in my basket. I think I’ll try that as I use manfrotto arms and clamps extensively. Thanks for sharing your excellent work. ✌️

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

@@davidberman5121 Please do let me know how you get on. If you're on Facebook, also join our group as others might have some experience of it too. Cheers, John

@YasmineMcLauren Ай бұрын

Good day to you guys. How's it going. My name is Yasmine. I am 47 from the island of st. Lucia in the west indies Caribbean. This may be a long shot but, I'm gonna shot it anyways. Recently got my first bike. Had no riding expirence,went to do the class,did the exam and got a bike. It's a honda cbr500r 2016. I am now looking for a second bike somewhere around 600/650 with storage. Was wondering if you guys can help. We use estern Caribbean dollars(EC) and it is 3.something to your pound. I'm looking for something 2000 or under in your currency. With traction control etc. Not sure if it is too far of a distance but. You guys have lovely roads to ride on. Here our roads are not in the best conditions and lots of hills and valliys and holes and travels etc. Thanks guys I've subscribed. I'll keep watching Keep doing what you'll are doing Cheers

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Congratulations! Best bet would be to join our Facebook group and see what people recommend as it'll be a far wider range of opinions.

@ps-tv 13 күн бұрын

two different cameras for very different uses. Both superior to GoPro. I have th eosmo action 3, it is very capable. if you have a good stabiliser, then the Sony RX0 is even better (If you have off board 4k recorder even better too!)

@PakmanR3 11 күн бұрын

Nice video but one dealbreaker for me is it’s made in China

@jowiehm 20 күн бұрын

i regret buying dji action 4 , it has only 10mp camera, not as clear as gopro. it looks clear on distant view but not on close

@bennettsbikesocial 20 күн бұрын

Hmmm, might want to get that checked (check the firmware first)

@captainjim605 Ай бұрын

I use a DJI Osmo Action 4 AND an Insta360 X4 - the combination gives me a lot of great options. Add the DJI Mic 2 connected wirelessly to the Action 4, and you have a great set-up. Here's an example shot a couple days ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7aCm7WWm5-0hp8.html I had been using just 360 cameras for the last 3 years, and I have been very happy with adding the Action 4 to the Insta X2 and X4. That said, if I was only going to use one camera, it would be the Insta360 X4 because of all the options for whatever view you want - after the fact. Good video, nice comparison.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Looks like fantastic scenery - thank you!

@nemerkha Ай бұрын

the death of the Go Pro?

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I hope not, but it's got some very tough competition from DJI and Insta

@BikerBreatnac Ай бұрын

I turn off KZfaq Videos filmed with the bobble-headed Insta360, it is very irritating to watch in my opinion.

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

I reckon it's like any tool - it can be used to good - and bad - effect. Cheers, John

@candlebougie Ай бұрын

I'm a bit annoyed by the fact that almost all video footage from these action cams don't have the right shutter speed and motion blur for the respective frame rate. The footage at the end with the ND filter looks awesome (-stabilization)

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Have you watched all of the video yet?

@_______- Ай бұрын

It's 2024. Why are cameras still the size of house bricks?

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Your house must be tiny (or have a lot of bricks)!

@domp51 21 сағат бұрын

Probably the most dreaded phrase is "u want to see my bike shots from my last ride" narcissistic bullshit unless you need it for some reason.

@TheTypeRTheory 28 күн бұрын

I must've seen Insta 360 cameras fall off and break on the road in at least five youtube videos so far. That alone is enough to put me off.

@firatsanliturk 13 күн бұрын

I'm going to say it out loud for the back row: The Insta360 X series 360 cameras are a piece of crap. Even the Sandisk Extreme Pro SD cards recommended by Insta give "slow memory card write speed" error, fail to record videos or only partially record them, cause corrupted and unusable files, etc etc. And they're not cheap either. Do yourself a favor, go buy another brand. After 2 years of use, Insta is NOT worth the headache (and heartache when you realize you haven't recorded that awesome ride AT ALL).

@bennettsbikesocial 13 күн бұрын

That's weird - I've not had any card errors at all. I'd check it's a genuine Sandisk...

@Emily-ou6lq Ай бұрын

ATGATT my friend. Or does your thick layer of fat protect you sufficiently?

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

What, you mean like the CE-approved boots, jeans, gloves and jacket (with an internal airbag), along with an ECE22.06 helmet that I'm wearing my 'friend' (that's not what I'm saying in my head).

@simonjackson4727 Ай бұрын

Only if you want it used in evidence against you 🏍

@bennettsbikesocial Ай бұрын

Well I guess that depends if you're filming yourself while doing something they might be interested in. If you're involved in a serious incident, there are other ways to find out how fast you were going.

@CopperRidesBikes 16 күн бұрын

You missed the point completely. Stick to your 'action' cameras.

@watcher333666 15 күн бұрын

I've scratched my 360 lens against what at feels like my zipper on a jacket. And I am regretting buying insta360, picture quality - objects look like they are made out of clay. I thought I had pretty good shots but they were just looking horrible. Also warning about battery life, I would prefer that camera did not turn on at all instead of turning on for 5 seconds, just enough for me to focus on a road, make some blinks and silently die.

@therighttake 14 күн бұрын

pointless, comparing two completely different products.

@wvansluisveld3011 12 күн бұрын

It’s comparing apples to oranges. Yes a 360 can will give lower reframed resolution and be a bit soft due to fish eye distortion being stretched. However, it gives possibilities that don’t exist on flat video. Eg viewing multiple angles and animating between different views in post. If you only want dull forward looking PoV shots then by all means take a regular action camera. By the way in insta360 you can choose not to level the horizon.