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These are the first three Festool purchases for beginner woodworkers or anyone looking to get into the brand. Whether you are a seasoned woodworker or an absolute beginner, there tools will make a significant impact for you in your shop.
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@joelluesse4408
@joelluesse4408 Ай бұрын
Bought the ct 26 many years ago with the reusable bag and realize now it's the best woodworking purchase I ever made. Super dependable, keeps dust out of my clients' homes and more importantly out of my lungs.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DavidATakes
@DavidATakes Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I've got two CT 26 extractors and am very close to buying a third and final one. I will have of them topped with the Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy for capturing all of the dust and chips. This combination is amazing.
@POLPO_WOOD
@POLPO_WOOD Ай бұрын
@@DavidATakes do you still use a bag in the ct26 or only the filter with the dust deputy?
@DavidATakes
@DavidATakes Ай бұрын
@@POLPO_WOOD The Oneida catches almost all of the dust. The little bit that gets by has to go somewhere, that is what the bag is for. Since so little gets to the bag they last an extremely long time.
@joelmartin4234
@joelmartin4234 Ай бұрын
Domino is the biggest game changer in my shop. I’ve never regretted the cost.
@francoisdevlin
@francoisdevlin Ай бұрын
I've just started my Festool collection, and I went with the TS55 + the midi. 100% agree that the dust extraction makes the brand. I've bought dust adaptors for my other brand tools, and the extractor makes me love those more too.
@user-nx3zk5qi8t
@user-nx3zk5qi8t Ай бұрын
I wasn’t sold on getting a dust extractor until I bought one. My mentor kept bugging me to get one, I got the CT26 and coupled it with a Mullet cyclone. Should’ve done it sooner. Not long after I saved up for the domino. Haven’t used it a whole lot with the things I’ve been doing but at no point did I ever think about getting rid of it. I always knew I’d be making furniture again. I had plans for sander or sanders, ts75 and the router system. Fell on some hard times and hopefully better times are coming. I still have my eyes on more festool
@NWGR
@NWGR Ай бұрын
Before I get to my own list, you nailed in the domino section with some people wanting the benefits without all the work of hand tooling. For me, the woodworking aspect is fun and I enjoy the process, but really it's still just a means to an end, that end being the project itself, not the process of getting there. I'm even adding a small CNC to my shop to automate some of the things that take up my time in the shop. My personal list: 1. Yep, agree completely. Dust extractor. Ideally purchased with another tool to get the benefits of both, but if one at a time is the only path, still a dust extractor. It can be used with any tool with the right adapter, and the festool extractors are amazing. I went with the CT Midi I along with the bluetooth remote and absolutely love it. I also bought the cleaning kit with the 36mm hose. But yeah, you nailed it with putting the extractor at #1. 2. Yep. The same sander you showed, the ETS EC 150/5. It's a workhorse. It can be pretty aggressive yet still excellent for fine finish sanding as long as you're cautious and aware of how aggressive it can be. Along with all the other reasons you mentioned as well. 3. This is where I differ from your list; for me it's a tracksaw. I went with the TS 55 FEQ with 55" track and also bought a 32" track. No regrets there. It's an amazing tool. I use my tablesaw far less now that I have my tracksaw. Just for a bit more insight, I'll give my #4 and #5 as well, but neither of them are festool, but still work well within the festool system. 4. A Dowelmax. Domino accuracy, ease of use and joint strength, just a bit slower (though not by a ton), far cheaper than a domino yet still not a cheap tool. Having my Dowelmax has been the only thing preventing me from getting a domino. It's amazing. Jessem makes a nice doweling jig too, but I still chose the Dowelmax for the integrated clamping and because it's a bit easier and more intuitive to use. 5. A Parf Guide MK II. As amazing as the festool MFT is, I just felt that this was one of those instances where I could build better than what is offered for sale, and the Parf Guide has helped me achieve that. I've made several tops with it in different sizes so it's effectively paid for itself. I actually thought an MFT would be in your list. Anyhow, excellent video to open up a worthwhile discussion Mr. Bent! Well done.
@davidlloyd2831
@davidlloyd2831 Ай бұрын
My first Festool product was the TS 75 Track saw 17 years ago. I recommend a track saw and track as the number 1 tool. Second tool would be a sander along with the number three tool dust extractor. Kapex could easily be top three in place of the sander.
@iOSAT
@iOSAT Ай бұрын
Similar to the Planex 2 - people give me shit saying, “oh that’s for people who aren’t good at drywall” EXACTLY, I’m not great at drywall and while I’m improving, I can always get a phenomenal, defect-free result, with minimal dust, in a fraction of the time. More importantly it completely changes remodeling work.
@blt981
@blt981 Ай бұрын
Bought same tool and a come to sand ceilings after taking down popcorn ceilings in our home worth every penny…
@iOSAT
@iOSAT Ай бұрын
@@blt981 Definitely, even for that purpose alone it’s very quick ROI for a couple of jobs.
@JK-pe6ft
@JK-pe6ft Ай бұрын
The first Festool tool I bought was the dust extractor, not because I was looking to get into Festool, but because I was looking for a great dust extractor. The second one was the 150mm ETS EC 150/5 sander. It took me a while to make the decision because of the price, but once I used it for the first time, I was amazed at what an upgrade it was on my Dewalt sander.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@cuebj
@cuebj Ай бұрын
I've been having various friends and relatives suggest I try supplementing my pension by restoring and refurbishing old furniture - there are numerous YT videos by folk who do it here in UK. They say how I have made stuff and how I have plenty of tools and a decent sized (for UK London) workshop. But... my tools are based on gutting and refitting our current house so more about construction than furniture. I'd have to invest in at least M-Class dust extraction, air filtration, suitable tools, especially sanders. In younger days, I wouldn't have paid so much attention to dust. Now, I'm at least as concerned for dust in my clothes affecting our grandchildren and very impressed with the change of worldviews about dust control compared with older days. That said, I did, recently sand down and re-finish (with boiled linseed oil) a wooden high chair for our granddaughter - worked out great and daughter now asking for more furniture jobs as well as wardrobes
@Flatlandflyer
@Flatlandflyer Ай бұрын
I love, love, love, my 150/5 sander!
@farshadmh
@farshadmh Ай бұрын
As a professional woodworker of 25 years, and a heavy user of Festool (pretty much everything they’ve made) for 21 (and now also Mafell) and a bit of a tool nut (very best and most appropriate tool for each task) I agree with you 100%…. And really well done for explaining your reasons so well, spot on…. Great watch, subscribed 👍
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@kenco7560
@kenco7560 Ай бұрын
Great advice Jason. When I first got into woodworking, I found a small woodworking shop an hour away that I visited. They also teach woodworking. So they had tools and experience to share with me. They also had a very nice Festool display. I was able to try some tools, and even though I did not buy any Festool at that time, it helped me decide to buy Festool tools and I’ve never regretted it.
@bobs4718
@bobs4718 Ай бұрын
When I decided to drink the green koolaid, here is my order 1. ETS EC 125/3 sander and CT26 with blutooth 2. Domino 500 3. ETS 125 sander with edge guide and finally 4. OF 1400 Router. Worked well for me! I”m set for a while I think. My track saw is the Makita SJ6000 with Makita tracks. I also just got the Festool 55” track with the shelf pin holes. Now I’m all set for a while. EDIT: Get the Onida dust cyclone that fits the CT26, works incredibly and the bag in the CT26 actually has nothing in it, emptied the cyclone 20 times and changed the bag only once after 5 years! Nothing gets through to it. Only microscopic dust that doesn’t accumulate. I only changed it because it was 5 years later so why not get a fresh bag in there,
@ironspider5972
@ironspider5972 Ай бұрын
I remember being frustrated by simple things like building boxes and drawer boxes when I first got started (pocket screws slipping just a tad or trying to assemble something and just having something be a tad off) and then I got a Domino. I made one drawer box with it (using the built in guides) and the thing was dead flat/aligned all the way around. I swore I'd never *not* use the Domino on anything that required something to be aligned again. And totally agree on the sander and the dust extractor. I have the CT 26 and I have the 5" sander mainly because I had a ton of 5" media to use and the 5" sander can use 6" sanding pads with the 6" interface pad.
@jbratt
@jbratt Ай бұрын
I have found the Festool track saw critical when you don’t have access to a table saw. My first Festool tool I bought was a 6” sander and dust collection. I built and entire sailboat with it and have been using it six years later. Incredible tool! I have the domino 500 and find myself using the largest size 90% of the time and wish I could go bigger. Next Festool purchase will be the 700.
@matthewhoheisel4840
@matthewhoheisel4840 Ай бұрын
Dust extractor and sander was the best thing I’ve ever bought for my painting company. It paid for itself in a week. Now I have 3 I work in healthcare clinics. What’s the saying???? Matt from 731? GAME CHANGER
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Game changer 🤣
@kainehls619
@kainehls619 Ай бұрын
Hi from Germany. Before I have bought any Festool a Bosch GAS 35 MFAC dust extractor was in my workshop. First Festool : Kappex 120 REBQ, second: TS55 REBQ tracksaw, third: T18+3 HPC cordless drill. In the meantime the Bosch dust extractor is replaced by a Festool CT midi, which fits much better to my tools.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@firewrx612
@firewrx612 Ай бұрын
I went with the dust extraxctor, sander and track saw first. I don't have a Domino yet, but that's probably my next purchase. Totally agree that the dust extractor is the single most critical piece of the system.
@alholston-smith7631
@alholston-smith7631 Ай бұрын
Likewise, my first Festool,purchase was into the Festool System. I first saw the Festool System at a woodworking tool show a Japan Woodworker, in Alameda CA, one of Festool’s first dealers on the West Coast. There I met Festool America’s then CEO Christian, and purchased the MFT 800 table, CT22 and a TS55. I then added a couple of,Festool,sanders and the OF1010 router to give me a basic job kit, I was using on site doing boat interior repair/restoration work. The whole package was very portable and easy to set up on site at boat yards. Accuracy and clean cuts was very important to the fine joinery I was doing. Cheers
@darrylwilson8491
@darrylwilson8491 Ай бұрын
My first Festool was the Domino DF500, followed by the ETS 150/5 and third I got the Kapex with a dust extractor, to date i have not regretted any of these purchases.
@erickdanielsson6710
@erickdanielsson6710 Ай бұрын
Good Video, Thanks. 1)Sander 2)TS55 Track saw 3)Dust Extractor 4) 1010 router w/LR32
@Billy_bSLAYER
@Billy_bSLAYER Ай бұрын
Their Oscillating Multi Tool is insane also!! Check it out!
@kwilliams2239
@kwilliams2239 Ай бұрын
IMO, TS55, RO150, ETS150/3. I bought the RO125, TS55, then ETS 125. I was told to go with the 6" sanders, but didn't listen. Before I bought the RO125, I must have purchased a half dozen sanders from different manufacturers, and hated every one. When I first used the RO125, I was in love. I don't think my wife is too pleased because I'm now into the Festool pool about $12K deep. I'm planning on a RO80, but there has always been another shiny toy I wanted more.
@RWingoS7
@RWingoS7 Ай бұрын
Excellent list, no notes. I got an ETS EC 125 to start, and it was like a religious awakening when I used it, I didn't know sanders could be SO GOOD. I used a tiny Shop Vac with it and the dust collection was excellent. My fiance ended up buying a CT 15 and omg I had the same mind-blowing experience all over again. The dust extractor is the best vacuum I have ever used, and easily best dust extractor for woodworking. I use it for everything now, just general cleanup in my house. It's that good. The sander with the dust extractor is so good, I can sand inside my house without a mask. It is crazy how good it is.
@timfisher5233
@timfisher5233 Ай бұрын
I have the CT MIDI and the ETS EC 125. I mostly do small stuff so the 150 is overkill for my needs.
@nathangardner772
@nathangardner772 Ай бұрын
I got the hkc first. That thing is still in its own class. Two days ago I just got “ANOTHER” 75” track. Everything else in between. In my van I have a 76” deep drawer that cantilevers out of the back doors 56” Inside that, but not extending past, I have 60” linear slides. On the slides is the csc sys 50. So you fold the barn doors all the way against the van and there levitates the tablesaw 😊
@BrendanFalkowski
@BrendanFalkowski Ай бұрын
These were my first three Festool orders (six items): 1+2 Cordless drill (T18+3 E with batteries) + Work lamp (KAL II) 3+4 Dust extractor (CT 26) + Domino joiner (DF500) + Domino systainer 5 Cordless table saw (CSC SYS 50 with batteries and stand)
@user-kr5jf4hu4u
@user-kr5jf4hu4u Ай бұрын
Thank you! You’ve 100% confirmed the name and order of the festool tools that I purchased before this video. Exactly! I’ld also add #4 Kapex 120 and #5 OF 1400.
@cliftonmadden1992
@cliftonmadden1992 Ай бұрын
I recently purchased a CT 26 E to replace the huge Craftsman vacuum I used for 20 years. My shop is only 240 square feet, so space is at a premium. The CT takes up a lot less space, the hose is amazing and I purchased the Bluetooth module, which I love. I also got the floor cleaning kit and the foam filter in case I need to use it as a wet vacuum. I’m looking at one of the routers for my next Festool. Great video. Thanks!
@williamdoyle649
@williamdoyle649 Ай бұрын
My first Festool purchase was a CT 33 and a TS 55.Besr tool purchase I ever made.
@RaySchwanenberger
@RaySchwanenberger Ай бұрын
I agree with your #1 and #2 picks. My first tools were a dust extractor and sander. For my personal needs at the time my #3 was the TS55 track saw and two FS1400 tracks. Great video!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MikevanAlst
@MikevanAlst Ай бұрын
Same here!
@user-us6vw7in9z
@user-us6vw7in9z Ай бұрын
My thoughts as well. Especially if this is geared towards beginner/intermediate wood workers. Saw over Domino
@MattTaylor7
@MattTaylor7 Ай бұрын
I’m just starting my Festool journey. Agree with your list. I started with MIDI, TS55 and Domino. Shortly after got ETS EC150/5 and OF1010. Thinking next purchase is DTS400 then Carvex. Absolutely love having every tool hook into the same power cord and vacuum hose
@darrenalmeida1382
@darrenalmeida1382 Ай бұрын
3 tools - TS55, CTMIDI I, ETS 125. Modifications to get: 2 - 55ʻ Guide rails, clamps and connectors. For the MIDI get the BT switch. For the ETS 125 Edge guide.
@cerberus2881
@cerberus2881 Ай бұрын
Thoroughly reasoned and well planned based on deep personal experience. I never miss Bent's videos and I've never regretted my Festool purchases.
@bobh64
@bobh64 Ай бұрын
NIce video, My top three beginers to Festool would be the CT15e vac the ets 125 req sander and the ts60 track saw combo. This will allow you to progress and grow.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Markdoubts
@Markdoubts Ай бұрын
Jason is 100% right regarding the 500 vs the 700. I bought the 700 first which you could call a mistake, but I feel having both is not overkill. Get tools.
@danielrybin2006
@danielrybin2006 Ай бұрын
Intermediate. 3. Ets ec 150/5 2. Ts55 3. Df500. Cut it, join it, sand it.
@Wolf-yw7en
@Wolf-yw7en 10 күн бұрын
Order of my first Festool purchases were equal 1st: Sander and Extractor package, 2nd: Kapex Mitre Saw and 3rd: Track Saw. Then I was hooked.
@howardsmith5474
@howardsmith5474 Ай бұрын
Agree. I just bought a festool sander after owning a cheapo porter cable for many years - Wow what a difference.
@papajohn6956
@papajohn6956 Ай бұрын
Great list! I will say for most beginners the sander and dust extractor are usually combo buys, but even at the high price it has been my best quality of life upgrade with the amount of sanding that I do. Also for me the domino and track saw are close for me but for a beginner the domino does help so much with alignment it’s tough to beat.
@hutchbicpl
@hutchbicpl Ай бұрын
DF500 was the first tool from festool it saves so much time in not having to make setuop marks
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench Ай бұрын
Knocked these out before the end of the video, so as to not be biased by your choices. My picks: 1) Dust extractor; 2 6” dia. Orbital sander; and 3) Domino - 700, since I make larger projects.
@buzztrip84
@buzztrip84 Ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much for this video. My first Festool was the TS 55. Then I bought the domino 500 and a Festool hose for my shop vacuum. I have been looking at a Festool sanders, my dewalt is not cutting it. I understand I can’t get a sander without dust collection and I’m saving for both and this video has reassured my decision.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@nathanpowell1500
@nathanpowell1500 Ай бұрын
These are the only 3 festool tools I own. And all of them are worth what I paid for them.
@Arational
@Arational 16 күн бұрын
1) Dust extractor. The Midi works well for me. 2) Rotex RO-90. I get a lot of work restoring front doors and this tool's versatility and compact sanding head are perfect for this work. 3) ETS-125. The 2mm stroke leaves a very fine finish and it is Festool's cheapest sander. The difference between a shop vac with hepa filter and My CT-Midi is night and day. I would never go back.
@onecellist
@onecellist Ай бұрын
Thanks for the WWGOA discount link!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
You bet!
@ethan3x8
@ethan3x8 Ай бұрын
Beginner, CT Midi, ETS 125/3, TSC55. I got the domino right after this and learnt a lot with that tool.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MountainPostWoodworks
@MountainPostWoodworks Ай бұрын
I agree with your 3 tools, I get the midi this Saturday. The amount of Dust I create is insane, I wished I bought the Dust extractor first. I love my domino and my rotex which was a gift from my daughter for fathers day. great video.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@LordHog
@LordHog Ай бұрын
The items I bought from the FesTool line was 1: Dust extractor 2: Sander 3: Cordless Track Saw 4: Domino - smaller one
@plumbum6558
@plumbum6558 Ай бұрын
I was thinking about what I would get first when you started talking about it I couldn’t agree with you more you nailed it !
@harpomarx6147
@harpomarx6147 Ай бұрын
Basically agree. Dust extraction is the key reason I buy Festool. The health benefits make it a no brainer (not to mention that good dust extraction often makes for much better tool performance, particularly in sanding). I already had a Fein dust extractor so- here are my choices. First is the exact sander - EQ/150-5- that you recommended. Second choice is a Festool router. If you rout much MDF, I'd make this number one. Lastly (not that I own one) is the sliding miter saw. I'm curious whether you would replace the Fein with a Festool dust extractor in my position. Thanks for the great content.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
I don’t have any experience with the Fein vacs but I am sure they are also excellent
@drumpriest
@drumpriest Ай бұрын
I have the same 3, different order. Domino first because it's so unique in it's function, dust extractor second, sander 3rd. Really 2 and 3 are best together.
@barriowoodworks
@barriowoodworks Ай бұрын
Beginner, CT 15, ETS EC125-150, track saw TS55.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MrWookie1981
@MrWookie1981 Ай бұрын
Those were my exact same 3 but bought the sander first.
@Tdog500
@Tdog500 Ай бұрын
The CT 26e and ETS EC150/5 were my first Festool purchases for controlling the dust. After using it I was amazed at how good the dust extraction is. I added the Bluetooth module later. The quality of the tools are great and a joy to use for me.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@mwoody4560
@mwoody4560 Ай бұрын
I’m with you on the Domino. I haven’t bought one yet because they are so expensive. But there really isn’t anything else out there that compares well. Sure there are other ways to do a similar thing. That’s what I do now. I will eventually buy a Domino jointer. As far as other Festool tools, I’ve always found another brands that win out my comparison criteria. So far, I haven’t regretted not getting any Festool yet.
@SmallProjectCentral
@SmallProjectCentral Ай бұрын
My kids bought me the TS55 track saw for Christmas so I bought the CT26 and an extra track and the connectors. I have a super small work area so I’m looking at the MFT next so I can get square cuts. Then the sander 😊
@oliverking8029
@oliverking8029 Ай бұрын
Gateway to festool was TS55 and multiple tools including CT22, RO150 and drills. That was 2004 and I am still running these. 2014 Domino was purchase great addition. I like the track saw as a 1st choice esp breaking down sheet goods.
@nomark1978
@nomark1978 Ай бұрын
Great video!!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@williamolsen8517
@williamolsen8517 Ай бұрын
I agree. I purchased the 26 and love it. With it I purchased the 125 sander and have been happy with it for what I do. Will buy the rotex at some point. Domino 500 is game changer, completely agree. If you did a top 5, I would add the track saw and LR 32 router set up. Well done and I will try not to covet your tool selection.
@evanmetz1740
@evanmetz1740 Ай бұрын
I'm just a hobbyist that occasionally expands out into custom/paid work. 1. Festool ETS EC 125/3. I updated the pad to the 150 to save a little money rather than just buy the 150. 2. CT 15. I never realized how important a dedicated dust extractor would be when sanding. 3. DF500 Domino. Did I need it? Absolutely not. However, as a mostly hobbyist, time is limited in my shop due to having a young family and wanting to stay engaged as a father/husband. I found that the time I save using the Domino pays for itself and more.
@brianmoore47
@brianmoore47 Ай бұрын
I’ve got the domino ets 125 sander & the midi dust extraction Love to see you working in your workshop up close see how you work very inspiring to see
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
👊🏼👊🏼
@Mike-dn4ju
@Mike-dn4ju Ай бұрын
This is precisely the best place to start in the ecosystem. But I vote RO150, not ETSEC. And a few years later you’ll have three extractors, four sanders, two dominos, three track saws, two routers, and fifteen systainers of accessories.
@HighOctaneSD
@HighOctaneSD Ай бұрын
This is the best advice I’ve heard on Festool.
@kirk561
@kirk561 Ай бұрын
Great video, Jason! I finished a kitchen table refinish project a few months back and am still cleaning up the dust! After that project, I KNEW I needed dust collection, which was my attraction to the Festool system. Yes, my HEALTH is IMPORTANT! When choosing my dust collection system, I opted for the CT26 due to its size and the need for a HEPA filter for a cleanup in my mother's attic. I needed something that could fit up through the attic access. Here's a tip I learned: if you're considering a larger capacity but not ready to invest in the CT36 or CT48, you can get that capacity by purchasing the CT36 or CT48 base and fitting the CT26 on it. It's a cost-effective solution! According to a Festool rep, the CT26 has the same motor as the CT36/CT48. So my top three Festool Tools are: CT26 ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus TS60 with FS1400/2-LR32 I opted for the Jessem Master Doweling Kit due to budget and I will say the Domino is STILL on my list due to the dust created by the doweling jig!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 Ай бұрын
Great video, Jason~! My entry purchase into Festool was the ETS 125 and the CT36. I treated myself to it Christmas '22. One of THE BEST investments in my shop made to date. If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the ETS 150, as you mentioned. That little bit of difference goes a long way. Last summer, I picked up the DF 500. Another great purchase~! I'm in 100% agreement with your recommendations, and I've been in woodworking for over 30 years (just a late bloomer with Festool). I always thought that Festool was just an overpriced tool that was as good as anything else, and then I got my own. WOW, what a difference~!! While I don't see myself turning my entire shop F-Green, I do have the desire to pick up their track saw (the corded 55 or 60) and possibly a Kapex (over the Bosch that I've always wanted). As you mention, they're not just tools, they are a system~! Again, great video~!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I think once people get that it’s all a system, and not just a fancy tool, then it clicks
@warrensmith2902
@warrensmith2902 Ай бұрын
I guess it depends on your woodworking needs and on what you will be doing. My first was the TS-55 REQ with a MFT/3 table. After moving, I needed to rebuild my shop and built things for the house. Next came the DF500. I could get by with other tools for dust, sanding, and routing. I just made sure they all could hook up to a 27mm hose port, and my power strip that was plugged into an instant on switch to start my shop vac. Next on my purchase list will be a Festool sander, and an OF1400 router.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@johnporetti9554
@johnporetti9554 Ай бұрын
You listed the exact three that I want to buy. I’ve planned all along to get the dust extractor and sander at the same time.
@JCMoorer
@JCMoorer Ай бұрын
Same. 1. Dust extractor. 2. Sander. 3. Domino 500. Runner-up: Track saw (55).
@MaxShaffer
@MaxShaffer Ай бұрын
💯
@brettturner6993
@brettturner6993 Ай бұрын
My actual first three festool tools were 1. A TS75 and a CT 15 2. The ETS 125 3. The DF 700 What I would recommend now 1. Any festool dust extractor with an ETS EC150/5 2. A TS 55 3. A DF 500 or DF 700 depending on the size of work you do. I have both the TS 75 and TS 55 and the DF 700 and the DF 500. I work with a lot of 8/4 and 6/4 wood so I almost always use the larger ones. I prefer the alignment pins on the DF 700 and the measurement block for height adjustment makes more sense to me. A 1010 or 1400 router is tempting to add to a recommendation list. Lol it is never ending!
@waltershoup763
@waltershoup763 Ай бұрын
I agree on the dust collector but go ct 15 way easier to afford. I use this with all my Festool and Makita tools and 3m sander and Dewalt sander. You can also upgrade the 15 as you go by adding the garage and a new hose and then the blu tooth if you want.
@Huey52123
@Huey52123 Ай бұрын
Exactly the order and Festool models I bought a number of years ago, so of course I concur (also started with their "more comfortable" ETS 125 REQ sander after a demo). Excellent guidance as always! 😊
@drewk3402
@drewk3402 Ай бұрын
Great video, Bent, and you did a great job of quickly going over the rationale for making the selections you chose. The questions “Why Festool” and “What should I buy” are two of the most common questions of beginning woodworkers (and more experienced woodworkers too). The ETS 125 and CT-Midi would be my first two choices, followed by the TS-55. Festool’s dust extraction is second to none when sanding. It makes sanding a pleasure and virtually eliminates dust from the process of sanding.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for that!
@h0mersapien
@h0mersapien Ай бұрын
I 100% agree - great list! I’d say the honorable mention could either be the CXS or Track Saw.
@douglasbrown3493
@douglasbrown3493 19 күн бұрын
We bought a CT 48 AC extractor, a TS FEQ track saw, and an OF 1400 router as our first 3 Festool products. We have a Dowelmax kit for loosish M and T's. Thanks
@HiFiNerd99
@HiFiNerd99 Ай бұрын
Yeah. I agonized over my first purchase (how could I justify $800 for a sander?). Now $3500 for a Kpex...no problem. Honestly just having the tools has gotten me so much work that it has more than paid the tools off (and a tax write off for me). Especially the planex that I use to quick prep walls before paint to save all that washing I used to do. And you are so right about the dust extractor. It is the center of the wheel.
@mattd9548
@mattd9548 Ай бұрын
So far, I'm 2 tools deep into Festool (~6 months in). My first was the ETS 125 Req which I will get the edge sanding attachment for eventually. I was using the $70-80 Bosch orbital sander for years prior and decided to upgrade as that sander got tired. Absolutely insane difference between the ETS 125 Req and the Bosch with regard to tool vibration, dust extraction, finish quality, and even a bit faster material removal. Even for beginners, I can't recommend anything cheaper than the ETS 125 Req anymore. I just got the CT26 and, paired with the sander, it absolutely changes the game for sanding. If you need a sander but don't have enough money to buy both, I would say just get the sander to avoid wasting money on a lesser sander, but otherwise I agree that getting both at the same time makes more sense. The next 2 Festool tools I'm looking at getting are the ETS EC 150/5 and the Domino 500. I already have the Milwaukee track saw (used to have the Kreg, but upgraded because I wanted cordless) and I would consider a track saw an essential of any hobbyist or professional shop before a Domino just knowing how many capabilities it adds while doing it arguably safer and more efficient than using a circular saw with a straight edge or a table saw alone. Obviously having a table saw in addition to a track saw is ideal, but especially if I was picking between a track saw and a similar priced table saw, I'd take the track saw all day long. My top 3 would be: 1. ETS 125 Req if you don't have a sander, ETS EC 150/5 if you can wait and save up 2. CT26 (15/25/Midi only rate the onboard outlet for 240w which may or may not handle more - I haven't looked or tried) 3. Track saw (probably a 55 or 60 depending on budget)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@martindill7589
@martindill7589 Ай бұрын
I stayed away from Festool for a long time (due to cost) but finally broke down and got a 6" sander and a CT22 dust extractor. The difference from my other sanding setups was amazing. After that a TS55, their mid size router, a Rotex, ...
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
That’s how it happens. Lol
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R Ай бұрын
I used to be a Bosch guy. I'd bought into their 18v platform, and so I bought their wired tools as well; until I realised that in some cases, other manufacturers just had better offerings. So I bought the Festool Domino, a tracksaw from Makita, and routers from Trend and Triton. Brand loyalty works in favour of the brand and against the consumer. Festool ARE a good brand, no doubt, but I don't think my tracksaw experience would be that much better if I'd have bought the Festool.
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R Ай бұрын
This summer, I'm going to be buying into the Hikoki 18v system for their framing nailers. Bosch do make a 2nd fix nailer, but I need a 1st fix as well, and Hikoki seem to be the best for nail guns.
@user-ye8lm1ch1j
@user-ye8lm1ch1j Ай бұрын
First Festool purchase was the CT 26 and ETS EC 150/5 together and honestly never looked back. Then literally a month later got myself the domino 500 :)
@guidoising
@guidoising Ай бұрын
I totally agree with the recommendation. My first Festool product (after a long history from Bosch green, Bosch blue, Makita for all 18V and some Fein and Flex) was the TS 55 REBQ together with the CTL MIDI in 2017, plus now two MFT/3. Those 3 products would be my personal recommendation, if asked. The next was the ROTEX RO 90 and then the CARVEX PS 420. Those brought my options in terms of hobbyist woodworking to a whole new level. It is a lot like photography: you date a camera, but you marry a lens system and will be tied to that for many years. With the dust extraction that works across the whole range (now also with a CTM36 E AC with pre-filter) and the CENTROTEC tools for the Quattro and C18 I feel that everything makes sense end-to-end. One aspect is the speed of working, but for me the satisfaction with the quality of the finished product, but as well the satisfaction of using the most professional tooling, justify the investment - not a feature/price comparison alone.
@Sol-hl2rj
@Sol-hl2rj Ай бұрын
From near the home country of Festool.. Yes - The latest CT Mini/Midi, paired with the Bluetooth remote is really no 1 if you start out and have scarcely used dust extraction on hand tools before. As you say sanding with Festool is a whole new and a delight experience. I now use 4 different Festool dust extractors with: Routers, HKC 55 circular saw, a variety of FT sanders, CS 50 table saw and more, even the odd drilling - thanks to the convenience of the Bluetooth remote and mobility of the dust extractor. Each to their own needs further down the road.. but there’s a often forgotten gem: The HKC 55.. I love it! On standard rail, FSK rail or freehand. I use it for high grade plywood as well with a fine tooth blade and the results are excellent. It has even replaced 50% or more of what I usually did on the mitre saw. Good video Bent🤙
@jefflee6711
@jefflee6711 Ай бұрын
My first Festool acquisition was the pendulum jigsaw back in 2008. I bought it specifically to cut some 8/4 Red Oak for a coffee table and it put my old Craftsman jigsaw to shame. Recently I picked up the TS-55. Saving up for the CT Midi or the CT-26 next.
@pd417
@pd417 Ай бұрын
1. DF500 Domino 2. CT26 Dust Extractor 3. TS 60K Track Saw
@RonGuilbault
@RonGuilbault Ай бұрын
In shot order RO150, RO90 and CT15. RO as I had DIY renovations that required the capacity of the RO series. Great order or priority.
@aaronwilson5825
@aaronwilson5825 Ай бұрын
Just bought my first Festool tool last weekend as a gift for passing an exam (ts 55feq). The next two I want are the DF500 and the ets ec 150/5, so glad to see those made the list. I have also been eyeing the CT MIDI, but justifying a $700 vacuum to my wife seems difficult lol
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Congrats!!
@albalder99
@albalder99 Ай бұрын
My first buys were the MFT table, TS saw, QF1400 and guides. My next buys are going to be the CTL36 and the Domino.
@FrankP117
@FrankP117 Ай бұрын
Agree on these three!
@fixmastermike913
@fixmastermike913 Ай бұрын
These are the three I purchased first when I started woodworking a few years ago. Seemed like the most useful for a small shop. The Kapex came next
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@bothorsen4292
@bothorsen4292 Ай бұрын
My first Festool tool was a HK55 with a 1400 rail. Because I needed a circular saw. Then I needed a new coordless drill/screwdriver, so I bought the PDC/4 (I think, no longer sold). At this time, I was hooked because of the precision of what I could do with these tools. So since then, I've added the CTM 26 (named slightly different in Europe) bought second hand, 4 other drills/screwdrivers, long reach sander, bluetooth radio, vecturo, jigsaw, angle grinder, a 2700 guide rail and a kapex 120. For the last couple of weeks, I have been wondering if I should get a ETS EC 150/5, actually, so your video came at a good time :) I will buy one this week. My approach to buying Festool has been to buy the tools as I needed to use something. It's been a while since I did any real sanding (because I've been building on the house itself, not things for it), but now I'll need to do some, so it's time for the next tool. I have two major reasons for buying Festool, and the dust extraction is one of these. The other is that the tools make it easier to do precision work for me as a hobbyist. I know they are expensive, but I also have a minor reason of just liking nice tools :)
@crashkg
@crashkg Ай бұрын
This video should come with a warning label about falling down the Festool rabbit hole. I started with the Rotex150 because I had some house projects that needed the material removal rate. Then I needed the dust extractor to go with it, CT36... Then the track saw, planer, resisted the domino for way too long... Then took the plunge. Don't regret a single one.
@bw162
@bw162 Ай бұрын
I bought the 3 items you have reviewed in the same order last month except I got the 26 extractor. These were my first Festool purchases. The dust extractor is amazing. It is so nimble and easy to move around and use. It easily supplements my 4” collection on the table saw base by taking away the dust from the blade guard. And unlike most shop vacs, it is extremely nimble to move around and connect to my hand tools. I hardly ever used my “shop vac” because it was so clumsy. Got the smaller sander because most all my work is on small delicate projects and a 5” is more suitable. The Domino I haven’t used yet but am really excited about putting it to work. I must be a genius!😂. With only a couple years of experience, I got the same Festool tools a pro is recommending. Maybe I should start my own KZfaq channel.
@haidergildred2621
@haidergildred2621 Ай бұрын
My first Festool was TSV 60 KEB-F-PLUS-FS. Why I have a shop full of thick hardwood slabs and this gave me the depth and the power that only comes in this corded option. I my next purchase will be the dust collector for sure vs my shop vac and it will be Bluetooth. My third not sure I may go for the domino but likely the 700 though right now I have a Grizzly tenon jig I use with my cabinet saw and a Grizzly floor standing mortise machine both of which though slow work great and I’m not into volume but one of a kind unique pieces. So maybe I’ll go with a hand sander you made a nice argument in the video.
@freddy228asac8
@freddy228asac8 Ай бұрын
The dust extractor is oh so true. I have 2 x MIDI-2 and I just bought at a liquidation auction the CTM 36.
@gerardcarr9140
@gerardcarr9140 Ай бұрын
Agree with the Dust Extractor, get the reusable bag, and a sander, I prefer the 125mm size. So that's one and two. Number three is problematic, but for me it was the Kapex, cutting on a whole new level of accuracy. The domino , I agree is a simply great tool, but with an existing Mortiser, it was the last thing I purchased. Always enjoy your videos.
@gwademytube
@gwademytube Ай бұрын
Great video and some good advice. I started Green Suiters podcast from the beginning and got a bit caught up in the Get Bent fun. 😊
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Oh wow, you went way back. Lol
@MarcWaddell
@MarcWaddell Ай бұрын
3 is a tough choice, so I'm gonna say 4. 4. DF500 3. 150mm Sander (could be ETS EC 150 or ROTEX 150) 2. Dust Extractor (really useful across the board, more than I ever thought it would be) 1. Track saw
@ltandrepants
@ltandrepants Ай бұрын
Track saw, domino 500, dust extractor
@cglewis07
@cglewis07 Ай бұрын
This guy tapping into my search history. I was looking for this yesterday 😂. Thanks!!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@michaelmenard8614
@michaelmenard8614 Ай бұрын
I can tell you that I am still a beginner, and a hobbyist at that. the domino was a way to make joinery without the (or at least less) mistakes. you could argue that things like the Dowelmax are just as good, and that is valid... but for me the Domino is just easier. That was my first Festool Purchase. My second (and Third) was the MFT/3 and track saw. I went that route over a table saw because I need to be able to store it when not is use. there are trade offs for sure. and just for reference, I am making things in plywood and hardwood so if you are thinking about that setup but don't want to be limited to only sheet goods it works great for dimensional lumber using some parallel guides.
@MarkBalanyk
@MarkBalanyk Ай бұрын
My first Festool's. CT MIDI I LS 130 EQ OF 1400 & Most recent TS 60 KEB ETS 125 REQ
@youtubuzr
@youtubuzr Ай бұрын
Ha! I actually just purchased a CT36 dust extractor as my first tool. :D I love it, and the hose actually fits well in several of my Dewalt tools.
@anthonymangini7986
@anthonymangini7986 Ай бұрын
That is exactly the order I would have put them in, for nearly the same reasons.
@nsanerydah
@nsanerydah Ай бұрын
Just bought the CT MIDI and the ETS WC 150/5. Can’t wait to try them out.
@brianakins83
@brianakins83 Ай бұрын
I have the same three except I have the 125... wish I had started with the 150 for sure.
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