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Bent's Woodworking

Bent's Woodworking

2 жыл бұрын

Comparison and my thoughts on the Festool Domino DF 500 and the DF 700.
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@SenecaWoodworking
@SenecaWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Jason! Thank you for the mention! ​ Regarding the issue of Festool's warranty: We designed our cutter adapter with the help of a former Festool engineer. Similar to using an aftermarket sawblade on a saw or drill bit in a drill, the Magnuson Moss warranty act prevents a manufacturer from voiding a warranty because aftermarket parts are used. Making 4mm/5mm/6mm mortises of a shallower depth with smaller cutters subjects the Domino XL to less physical stress than it was designed for, and after selling thousands of cutter adapters over the last eight years, we're not aware of any instances where one has caused damage to the Festool Domino. Similar to how you can feed a drill or saw too fast and stall the bit or blade....or damage the drill or saw.... how the Domino XL is used (how fast it is plunged) is more of an issue than cutter size when wear is a concern.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
This is great to know and I’ll be sure to pin this comments so other can see as well!
@Markdoubts
@Markdoubts 4 ай бұрын
It is unfortunate that Seneca is out of stock on the small mortise kit. These things happen; but it really puts doubts in my mind when I reach out to a company and they don’t respond.
@SenecaWoodworking
@SenecaWoodworking 4 ай бұрын
The Small Mortise Kit is expected to be back in stock later this month! ETA is listed on the product page and will be updated if it changes. We feel your pain though on the whole 'lack of response' thing... that frustrates us too. So what company isn't responding to you? @@Markdoubts
@SenecaWoodworking
@SenecaWoodworking 4 ай бұрын
We'll have more small mortise kits later in the month; the product page on our website has an estimated restock date and we'll update that if the timeline changes. @@Markdoubts
@Markdoubts
@Markdoubts 3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Seneca’s small mortise kit.
@larryciesla
@larryciesla 9 ай бұрын
I bought a 500 not long after the machine was introduced and have been using it for over 10 years. I also struggled when the 700 came out trying to decide if I really needed to spend the money on a second machine. I've built over 40 chairs, numerous tables, and many other projects with my 500. I've yet to encounter a situation where only the 700 would have worked. As you say, unless you're building very large projects like entry doors, the 500 is all you really need. I'd also add that buying the 500 was the best tool purchase I've made in over 50 years of woodworking. I recently donated my old hollow chisel mortise machine to a charity tool auction because since I've owned the 500, I simply never used it. Thanks for a great video and confirming my own personal experience.
@geraldl5221
@geraldl5221 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, new viewer here (and now subscriber). I just wanted to say thank you. I came into this video set on the 700, for all the reasons you listed, but after thinking about it, and taking all of the information and opinions you provided I realize now that I will be absolutely set with the 500 for the foreseeable future. Thank you so much, you literally saved me a thousand Canadian dollars!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful and welcome!
@stakwalderbak5331
@stakwalderbak5331 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I found when choosing the 700 first, was that the ergonomics of the 700 are better. It has a much better hand grip and is well balanced, whereas I found the size of the barrel of the 500 too large and uncomfortable. That is, until I realised that if you grip the electric connector at the back of the 500 it was much better and more controllable. I'm surprised that Festool haven't upgraded the 500 but I guess if it ain't broke...
@patrickallen5781
@patrickallen5781 7 ай бұрын
Hands down the best explanation of differences between these two sizes. Bravo!
@ppezaris
@ppezaris 2 жыл бұрын
I own both, and reach for the 700 almost every time. The ergonomics are so much nicer, and the heft of the machine keeps the cut more consistent and accurate without me having to exert myself to keep it stationary, especially into endgrain.
@andrewmo49
@andrewmo49 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to make this same comment. I find the 700 more stable and seems more consistent in getting good alignment.
@noachmiller360
@noachmiller360 4 ай бұрын
thankyou very much for this advice.
@ArmyVet76
@ArmyVet76 2 жыл бұрын
This video has helped me big time. I was going back and forth but now I know the 500 is for me. Great Video 👍🏼
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful 👍
@timbruckner8154
@timbruckner8154 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the big help!
@michaelbowen6462
@michaelbowen6462 Жыл бұрын
I only found this AFTER I'd ordered the DF500....but had been wondering if I'd made the right choice, so very helpful to see this!! Thanks!
@chrisfolta4077
@chrisfolta4077 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I have been considering and really trying to justify buying one of these. I watched your video because I couldn’t decide which one to get so I was just gonna buy the more expensive one because “bigger & more expensive is better right?” Your truthful comparison answered all the questions I had plus the ones I didn’t even know i had yet. Lol I’m definitely going with the 500 and if I ever have a job for the 700 I’m confident I can find a work around! Thx again
@user-pv4jo4tn1j
@user-pv4jo4tn1j 6 ай бұрын
This is some excellent advice. I've started with the DF 700 XL since I was making large furniture and outdoor pieces. Also, I love the connectors (knock-down fasteners). The big model is a a perfect choice for what I was doing. I soon bought the Seneca adapter and have made do ever since. For the past year or more, I've been thinking of buying the DF 500 (for all the reasons given in this video).
@mrgunn2726
@mrgunn2726 Жыл бұрын
Thanks this really helped me understand the differences between the too machines, it helped with my purchase decision.
@cody1612
@cody1612 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video. Thank you Jason!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@MitchEMoser
@MitchEMoser 9 ай бұрын
I have a 500 and get along well with it. Your video was very informative and useful.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@markisom78
@markisom78 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 500 before I saw your video, but I agree totally with you. It's also nice that Festool throws in the complete cutter set if you buy the complete tenon set. It's around $365, but it pays for itself when you're always needing a certain size of tenon for varying projects.
@jeffhamilton8400
@jeffhamilton8400 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great presentation and honest review!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@joshuakaiser9691
@joshuakaiser9691 9 күн бұрын
Exactly the information that I needed! Thanks so much!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 9 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hock8379
@hock8379 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason. Another great video - Thanks for posting. I bought the 700 (when it was much less expensive). I've since added the Seneca adapter for the smaller cutters and of course use these quite a bit. The 700 is a beast and although I've gotten used to it, I wouldn't mind having the 500. I think the 500 is a great way to go for most first time buyers.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it!! 👍👍
@lmallard3788
@lmallard3788 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yes I have been struggling trying to decide which one to get and then going back to my dowelmax. But I am in the festool family with a sander and dust collector . And I have made plenty of goofs with dowelmax
@JustTony72
@JustTony72 2 жыл бұрын
very good summary. I did still end up with the 700 because someone was selling one virtually new with all the acessories and both starter packs for the proce of a 500. some good negotiation from my end and a little urgency on theirs meant i walked away with a new 700 for less than half of what it would normally have cost
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@williamsjoinery8186
@williamsjoinery8186 2 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful indeed. Thank you
@nafnaf0
@nafnaf0 5 ай бұрын
I have the small one (DF 500) and it has worked great for every project I have ever done. The Domino is expensive, but it is able to create high quality, perfectly aligned, really strong joints super fast.
@donyork8641
@donyork8641 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful assessment. Thank you!
@augustsilva9423
@augustsilva9423 2 жыл бұрын
Send time this week one of your videos helped me make a purchase decision! Just ordered the 500!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!!
@madfists7106
@madfists7106 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insights, really helped. Great video!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@dimensionswoodworks
@dimensionswoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Jason! Another great video.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info! Thanks for the video.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!! 👍
@morrist938
@morrist938 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great tool. I use it for home projects.
@cvnis957
@cvnis957 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this video. It solidifies my original want of having both
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world both is nice!
@pf5658
@pf5658 2 жыл бұрын
I own the 700. Made the decision to get the 700 instead of the 500 because there are aftermarket accessories you can buy for the 700 to do things you can with the 500. But if you own the 500 you can’t do the opposite because there are limits. May still buy a 500 later on though. You made some valid points too.
@Soso-km8er
@Soso-km8er 5 ай бұрын
I have both the DF500 and the DF700. The advantages of the DF700 are the new register Pins, the two settings for depth, flexibility with the adapter and the more powerful motor. The DF700 is clearly the better machine when you have the adapter bit - except for its size, weight and price. That’s why I find myself using DF500 more often just for convenience. I am just starting to appreciate the KV-SYS D8 system as I like furniture to be easy to install and to remove while retaining the strength of the Domino. I find myself mixing it with the Duo-Dowler from Mafell for cheap stabilizing dowels and the 32mm system holes.
@jeremyhunter9613
@jeremyhunter9613 Жыл бұрын
great video,you answered all the questions i was looking at,thank you
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!!
@davidmarshall6188
@davidmarshall6188 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info on both tools.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Your review and opinion for either are extremely helpful and by far most practical to weigh options. Think I’m going 500 since I won’t really do much heavy stuff anyway.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@THS92
@THS92 11 ай бұрын
When I went to buy a Domino, the salesman told me the exact same thing you say in the video and I chose the 500 and I can't get enough of it. I've also spliced thicker materials using 8x40 pins and totally fine. I'm not saying I'd use it to build a patio but a bed for an acquaintance was a blast.
@SavedChampion
@SavedChampion 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I have both. This will help so many.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@phantomviewer
@phantomviewer Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, definitely helped make up my mind
@davidschneider3118
@davidschneider3118 2 жыл бұрын
Jason, Excellent presentation. I have both. I've had the 500 for years because I was a tool tester for the North American release of the product. It truly is a revolutionary tool. My wife and I purchased the 700 because we're building 16 interior doors to replace the junk that came with the house and the 700 is irreplaceable for this task. The size is definitely the determining factor. The 700 is really cumbersome for the day-to-day projects as you have said. I think every woodworker should have a 500 and watch Sedge from festool (and you of course) to learn how to use it properly
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Doors is actually one of the reasons I wanted the larger as well
@degmoss
@degmoss 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 500 for about 5 years. Absolutely love it. I watched Sedge and learned something new about the tool even after all this time.
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 2 жыл бұрын
Good discussion. Good advice. My Domino was bought used from a Craigslisting. A machining table for using that big moma needs to be at a low hip height , 3 or 4 inches lower than my hand tool bench for best control. The solution is to stack two 1-3/4" pads cut from a junk solid core door to jack my heinie up where it needs to be. That way I can still use the stops, vises, and hold downs on that bench.
@late.night.rituals
@late.night.rituals Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Thank you!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kiwdwks
@kiwdwks 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video/advice! Thanks again!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@robertwaller2637
@robertwaller2637 5 ай бұрын
I have had the 700 for over ten years and have used for everything you can imagine, love it. My son has the 500 and uses mine quite a bit for contracting, when I build outdoor furniture with thicker lumber I use the 14mm dominos and they are great.
@Samlol23_drrich
@Samlol23_drrich Жыл бұрын
What a great and clear video. Thank you.
@coyoteproject999
@coyoteproject999 2 жыл бұрын
I use the 700 !! I don't use the 500 because for small pieces I prefer Lamello/biscuit joiner With the 700 I make shelves, balcony railing, another larger things. Most of the time 10mm bit, and 12mm for balcony for example.
@danielwaddell123
@danielwaddell123 Жыл бұрын
I’ve found myself gravitating towards using the smallest and lightest power tools as I can get away with in general over the last few years. I now use professional 12v tools 90% of the time and only use larger tools when I have to. As a result I get home at the end of the day with less aches and pains in my hands and back.
@fishontv6834
@fishontv6834 6 ай бұрын
12v all the way. But the 700 is a must unless you want to limit yourself to plywood and boxes.
@reelblessingchartersl.l.c.515
@reelblessingchartersl.l.c.515 10 ай бұрын
Thank you , you just helped me decide!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 10 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@arimadx
@arimadx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video man. I'm "in talks" with the wife about getting a domino and I was a little worried that I might be selling myself short by only getting the 500. Thanks for clearing up the misconceptions I had. 500 it is.
@rbhammerwoodworking8606
@rbhammerwoodworking8606 Жыл бұрын
Great Video ! I am taking your advice and going with the 500
@DerberAlter
@DerberAlter 6 ай бұрын
Very helplful video. Thank you!
@lexinailspa
@lexinailspa Жыл бұрын
Great video and wonderful advice
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@TheAVJedi
@TheAVJedi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate, this was really helpful.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@jonathanstinnett1579
@jonathanstinnett1579 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you for this one.
@alancroft6928
@alancroft6928 2 жыл бұрын
You are good. Just a thank you for all your input.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@Sophia-rl7xi
@Sophia-rl7xi 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks Jason! I know a lot of people have a "bigger is always better" mentality but i think practicality is more important.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@williamsjoinery8186
@williamsjoinery8186 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put together a comparison. I reckon it really depends what you tend to make and therefore where you can save time. The 700 is a heavy tool but it’s way easier than cutting mortice and tenon joints for gates and doors, so it’s worth the investment. Thanks again.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@diycentral
@diycentral 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your POV. It did help 👊
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear
@user-qf1sh8qz5w
@user-qf1sh8qz5w 6 ай бұрын
What an awesome video! Thank you
@robertpfohler363
@robertpfohler363 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for all the info.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@ApexWoodworks
@ApexWoodworks 3 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison video Bent.
@paulyanney3151
@paulyanney3151 Жыл бұрын
Good advice thanks 👍
@sheldonvogt5212
@sheldonvogt5212 Жыл бұрын
This was superb. Thank you.
@MyGrowthRings
@MyGrowthRings 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent presentation, Jason. Thanks for sharing. Scott
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and you’re welcome
@MyGrowthRings
@MyGrowthRings 2 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking I’m currently watching your WorkbenchCon presentation. I was there, but somehow missed it.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Well at least you still get to see it 👍
@MyGrowthRings
@MyGrowthRings 2 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Yes, I was thrilled to see it listed among your vids.
@Selandry1
@Selandry1 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Agree that most will be fine with the 500. I also own both and have barely used the 700 while the 500 is used on every project.
@boogiedahomey
@boogiedahomey 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and beautifully explained. Years ago, I bought my first track saw from Timberwolf Tools and ordered the Mafell MT55. David at Timberwolf asked me what I primarily cut and suggested I look at the KSS 300, which also can be used as a track saw but is half the size and weight (but 50% more expensive). I bought both and thought the smaller saw would be a waste of money and sit gathering dust. Ten years on, I've made about 100x as many cuts with the KSS 300 as I have with the regular sized track saw. More isn't always better. Would've been great if you could have shown all the various dominos from 14mm to 4mm together and in profile as well as vertically for a full size comparison.
@davidbender5998
@davidbender5998 Жыл бұрын
nicely done!
@alancroft6928
@alancroft6928 2 жыл бұрын
That was really well explained. I have the 500 and love it. Like you I don’t use large thick materials.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@AlAmantea
@AlAmantea 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm sure this will answer a lot of questions about the Domino! Also, I have had one project in my shop where I've said I can't do it without the Domino 700. It is was a solid ash conference table, 8 ft wide x 20 ft long, 2 inches thick, built in 4 sections using the Domino XL connectors, to be shipped across the country. I was lucky to be able to borrow a ds700 from a friend, who, incidentally, had it for 2 years and only used it once!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that’s a great example of when the larger is needed.
@AdamLVose
@AdamLVose 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 700, it's great for making household doors and joining slabs. I've purchased the 8mm cutter and have made cabinet doors and faces. Alignment is tough on the 3/4" materials.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah large stuff like that it’s great
@mrklean0292
@mrklean0292 2 жыл бұрын
There is one thing that I noticed when I received my 500, it's weight. It's not so heavy that it would wear you out, but it isn't a feather either. It is definitely a solid little machine. I would say it weighs about as much as my mid-sized router (Dewalt 621). Since I just saw that it is around seven pounds, I couldn't imagine working with the bigger one at almost twice the weight. This is one of my favorite joining tools. I now have to force myself to experiment with some more fancier joints like dove tails and finger joints. The Domino just makes it so quick and easy to put things together.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it definitely makes the process much faster 👍
@boonedockjourneyman7979
@boonedockjourneyman7979 6 сағат бұрын
Well done. Thank you.
@gnlman
@gnlman Жыл бұрын
thank you. this is exactly what i wanted to know. great video
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@franciscoramirez-nb4er
@franciscoramirez-nb4er Жыл бұрын
Awesome detailed and to the point analysis on the domino.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@-fazik-3713
@-fazik-3713 Жыл бұрын
The instant You shoved the dominos I knew that the 799 will be to big for me. Thank You for this honest video!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@douglasbrown3493
@douglasbrown3493 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video! And to your point regarding thicker material, double stack the dominoes if more strength or glue surface is needed! Thanks!
@djmdog8754
@djmdog8754 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thankyou
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@user-is6hm8or8h
@user-is6hm8or8h 9 ай бұрын
thank you for this video now I have diced it!
@guillermopalmisano8957
@guillermopalmisano8957 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree with you completely. Unfortunately when I was in the market to buy on in early April this year both were sold out with nothing in the near future. Finally came across a 700 and pulled the trigger. Do I wish I had the 500 ya but happy to just have one
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Like I said in the video, either is a pleasure to use 👍👍
@neilllester9226
@neilllester9226 Жыл бұрын
You did a great job with this review video!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@golubev_mikhail
@golubev_mikhail Жыл бұрын
Честный чувак! Я ровно к тому же пришел. Взял от жадности 700 машинку, но попользовшишь понимаю, что можно было смело брать легкую 500. Низерное количество дел, где нужны длинные настолько шипы. Но громоздкая она прилично.
@nathanielsnyder1323
@nathanielsnyder1323 2 жыл бұрын
Both! I ended up buying the df700 after having the df500 for a year. For larger projects like tables
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Both is great in a perfect world
@jeffreysmith5018
@jeffreysmith5018 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks. I think I “need” both 😊😊
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Yes you do 🤣
@HarlyGuy13
@HarlyGuy13 2 жыл бұрын
Jason great video sir. You just helped me out and saved me $500. Im still another project away from pulling the trigger but I’m definitely going with the 500. Thanks again fir another great video.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@phichi1106
@phichi1106 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the info I was looking for
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@edoui1021
@edoui1021 2 жыл бұрын
very good video. I have been looking for someone to do a no nonsense video comparing the two.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@howler5000
@howler5000 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 500 and have yet to run into a project where i needed anything more.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Same with me 👍
@handymadness
@handymadness 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@garronsteele5143
@garronsteele5143 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video. I was going back and forth between choosing the 700 or 500. In the end i went with the 700 mainly due to a hue special price which ended up less than the 500. I did buy the Seneca adapter. What i build usually requires the 700, but often wish i had both mainly for the weight topic for smaller tasks. I will hang in there until there is a really good deal on the 500. Don’t really need it but would like to have it. Again for me its a want not a need. Great content from you as usual. Thanks again
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Both machines are amazing. It’s definitely nice to have both for sure.
@se9225
@se9225 5 ай бұрын
I've just bought the 500. Even before I viewed this video review, I looked at the website to look at the domino sizes. Simple logic, the bigger the domino, the heavier the construction. Logic defines that unless I'm creating large items such as door carcases or other major construction - then I would consider alternative joints such as lap joints. I can't wait to get it out the sustainer but still require a few more items from Festool as a convert from Triton and JCB.
@bskelly
@bskelly Жыл бұрын
You just saved me hundreds of dollars. Looks like all is need is the 500. Thanks!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@GreenSaxon
@GreenSaxon 2 жыл бұрын
I have the DF700 & the Seneca adaptor for use with the 500 bits. Works for me & gives me a universal tool. I've built large gates & small cupboards with one Domino machine. I don't regret going the DF700 route.
@nicholasmendoza6159
@nicholasmendoza6159 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. This would have saved me days in labor when building doors. He should have been more focused on the uses of each. I am mainly concerned for doors someone else is small furniture. I believe i would push the limits of the 500 Dominos on many of my doors. I actually stopped making them because of the time it took and the lack of help who could do the same work. Either i was doing it or it wasn't getting done.
@stuartrobertson8711
@stuartrobertson8711 2 жыл бұрын
The 700,even with seneca adapters is cumbersome for smaller work. I have and use both 700 and 500.Regularly. The stationary mortiser is gathering dust. Being able to take the machine to the work is the thing along with speed and accuracy and very large work is easy.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a different using experience between the two
@geirleirvik1478
@geirleirvik1478 Ай бұрын
Ymmv, I build gates, doors, beds and large tables more that join sheet goods - I had the DF500 it got stolen, I replaced it with a DF700 + seneca adapter + df500 cutters and I am very happy with that setup. Not that I have done it, cause I have not, but limiting you df500 cuts to 28 mm is important to not stress the adapter and cutters. You could do deeper, but realize you are stressing parts beyond their design.
@rfguy8499
@rfguy8499 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Yeah, the df700 is definitely a beast, so the weight difference was a factor for me. I am happy with my df500 and agree that it is the best option for most woodworkers. Thanks Jason.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 4 ай бұрын
I have the 500. When I've built larger furniture in the past, I used a router to cut the mortices. It really didn't take all that long. I built my workbench and my kitchen table using a router. There tend to be very few large mortices on furniture; there are many more smaller mortices, so thats were the real time saving is. I got my 500 because I'm planning building cabinets for my new kitchen. I wanted to say thanks for both your kitchen cabinet video from a while ago, and your more recent kitchen island video.
@plumbum6558
@plumbum6558 Жыл бұрын
I respect your opinions I bought the 500 on your advice it’s been about a year since I bought the 500 I was needing the 700 a lot more in my shop than the 500 so I bought the 700 I feel I need to throw my opinion in for other people trying to decide maybe help them for there needs it was a instant wow for me I really like the feel the balance ergonomics extra adjustments the extra pins on the 700 is awesome I don’t even notice the extra weight because of the design seems more natural for straight plunges I am glad I have both but I have to say if you can only have one get the 700 but on the flip side having both is nice too ! But a luxury not needed this my opinion for my shop keep up the good work I enjoy what you do thnx !
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@user-yf7xq5zw1f
@user-yf7xq5zw1f 2 ай бұрын
Super helpful. I'm looking to buy one for my daughter, Matilde, who is training to be a furniture designer/maker. She raves about the 500 and how useful it is, but I wanted to double check that the 700 wasn't a better option. Seems like, based on the kind of work she is doing, the 500 will be perfect. If in the future she takes on bigger builds, she can invest in a 700. Thanks so much for the well-balanced advice. Andy (UK)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tonyimperial5323
@tonyimperial5323 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for awhile. I really appreciate the tutorial style you have.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
@MrAz85501
@MrAz85501 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I bought the 700 because I was making shaker t-panel interior doors and was perfect for the job. I have entertained the idea of having both though.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah big doors like that, the 700 is perfect!
@11211lcb
@11211lcb 2 жыл бұрын
Good annalisys. I mentioned on anouthe one of your Domino videos that my 500 is about 14 years old. I design and build custom furniture. And I will restate that I have probably cut 15,000 mortices with the 500. If you are trying to decide which one to buy, get the 500. You will know if you need the 700. The 700 will be for things largert than almost all furniture. Think heavy entry doors, gates, very heavy beams, etc. The 500 pretty much handles anything smaller. And in the off chance you might once or twice need the capacity of bigger 700, cut the mortices and tenons like they were cut up until 15 years ago. If money is no object and you get the 700 you will likely want to get the 500 in addition as that one is going to be easier to use on furniture and smaller projects. While there are adapters to make the 700 work like a 500 it will be cumbersome for smaller detail work and it is going to be very heavy by comparison. I wil admit that I some times to get tired using the 500, it is not unsusual for me to cut 200 mortises in an afternoon. The 500 isself is not a feather either. I would not wnat to be cutting 200 mortises with the 700 in a single session unless I just had to do that.
@skogsmats
@skogsmats 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks nice work.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@jeffamerrill
@jeffamerrill 2 жыл бұрын
Festool needs to redesign the 500 with a handle like the 700 for better control and ergonomics.
@DaleDrillhouse
@DaleDrillhouse 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sir, very informative without rambling. I still can’t decide 5 or 7 😆
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Buy both!! 😬
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