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Beogram RX2 Fully Automatic Turntable - Full Demo

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Pretty spectacular turntable.

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@deanwhite4190
@deanwhite4190 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these turntables years ago and was very satisfied with it. I played it a few years with no problem until the din plug audio cable broke and i could get no sound from my Beogram to my stereo amplifier. I took the turntable to a high end high fidelity store that sold Bang and Olufson products. I was told they couldn't repair my turntable. It seems the store had quit selling B&O because they had trouble getting parts to repair them. They could not get the cable needed for mine. I tried unsuccessfully to repair the din to RCA audio cable. I just let it go as unrepairable junk. By then I had lost interest in my record collection anyway and played my CD's which I liked better. I suppose my Beogram was tossed out. I hated it that happened. The table was really neat and I imagine audio cable issue could have been solved by the right person. I think that was 1996 or 1997.
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
The late 90s was a bleak time for vinyl. I am sure many turntables were chucked with simple faults, or no problems at all. A good likely solution for yours would have been to solder a new set of RCA cables internally and eliminate the DIN. Luckily the RX-2 is plentiful to this day. It's relatively simple compared to other B&O decks and surprisingly capable. Handsome too!
@rogersiddoway8197
@rogersiddoway8197 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your help. I was able to find the left RCA plug was bad. I bought two new RCA plugs and soldered both connections in place and the Beogram works perfectly. Connecting to my integrated Integra amp via PHONO works fine in my home theater system, but it sounds better/louder/more "present" in a different setup with a Denon HEOS preamp/CD/streaming device connected to Audioengine 5+ speakers. An inexpensive Pyle preamp between the Beogram and the home theater amp via AUX was terrible. Should I expect another preamp like a Bellari VP549 would be better?
@erniegauvin5898
@erniegauvin5898 Жыл бұрын
Hello Thanks for your video. I have this table with an MM3 cartridge. I pulled it out of the closet where it has been for years. When I set it up I realized I have a tone arm problem. I will not settle down on to the vinyl correctly. I can balance the tone are (float) but it does not have enough down force pressure to track. I removed the aluminum plate to get a view of the mechanism but could not see anything obvious. I removed the counter weight for a better view and now I cannot seem to get it reinstalled properly, it will not stay on the back of the tone arm? I don't understand how the barrel screw is suppose to stay affixed to the back of the arm. It just seems to slide right off. I feel until I correct that there is no need to go any further in the troubleshooting process of the arm. I don't but thanks
@alm5693
@alm5693 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this demo. I own an RX2 that's in retirement now because it was having an issue of the tonearm getting a bit sticky and causing a backwards skip at about half way through the record. I would enjoy having this turntable rehabbed but I wouldn't trust myself to do it successfully. I had my Dual 1229 rehabbed a couple years ago but the RX2's cool factor is in a different league. I can second your approval of the Soundsmith replacement cartridges although I'll also agree they're far too expensive ($200 to $350 to unaffordable...) I had read a long time ago that some of the materials in the cartridge would age out and basically self-destruct the cartridge regardless of how much use the stylus had seen. Do you have any info about this?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the Soundsmith carts represent reasonable value for the quality you are getting. The challenge is not having options in that $70 to $150 sweet spot where there are many nice 1/2" options. What I see is the coils in the original B&O carts open, leaving one channel dead. This is very common, affecting maybe 1/3 of the carts out there. So I don't recommend paying top dollar for an original B&O cart as the risk is too great. If you do have one that works, then by all means enjoy it. Considering the build quality and excellent performance, distinctive looks and cool factor, I believe the B&O tables are undervalued for what you get, which helps make up for the higher outlay for the cartridge.
@blkpopeye
@blkpopeye 3 жыл бұрын
I've known about bang and Olofsen turn table quality for over 40 years..Its not new to me. One of my shipmates bought one of the first linear turntables overseas.
@markwagner1997
@markwagner1997 2 жыл бұрын
Nice RX-2 tour! I've bought the 2402 in the early 80's and after 20+ years, upgraded to the TX-2. The TX-2 has been great with the MMC3 and eventually a SMMC3. Having bought the TX-2 used, there was a neat feature that was not readily apparent to me until I accidently caused it to work a few times. It has a "repeat function"... where it will play an LP as many times (up to 7) as the number of times the play button is pushed in the first few seconds of play. If you push the play button two times, it plays that LP two times. Just curious, does the RX-2 have that well hidden feature? Thanks!
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, There is no repeat on the RX-2. The RX-2 is considerable simper than the TX which has sophisticated logic control of all the functions. Thanks for your comments!
@chazlabreck
@chazlabreck Жыл бұрын
A modified mine to use any style cartridge..my old arm was defective.. So I 3d printed new carbon fiber parts.. Im going to make an adapter that will retrofit the rx2 to t4p, and 1/2 inch style cartridges. So far it works great.
@kylewomble1993
@kylewomble1993 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant idea! I too have RX-2 and no cart or availability to one. Are you willing to sell said adapter?
@keithcrocker9577
@keithcrocker9577 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Al, I am in exactly the same situation as you with the sticky tone arm. Did you send your RX2 out for repair?
@josquinmingus
@josquinmingus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I've had the RX2 for a year and love it. It does spin a little sharp, though (about one quarter-tone). Any tips for speed adjustment?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, The RX2 has trimmers for speed adjustment under the metal deck near the front of the tonearm. I believe they can also be accessed through holes underneath without removing the deck. One for 33 and one for 45. Check the service manual section 5-1, available at vinylengine.com. Good Luck!
@josquinmingus
@josquinmingus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Round2Audio Thanks! Yes, I eventually found them underneath the unit (without having to remove anything). Combined with the free and awesome Whirlometer app, the table's now in tune!
@rogersvideos1826
@rogersvideos1826 5 ай бұрын
I changed rca cables on an RX2 because the left was intermittent. Now I get no sound at all. Could I have muted it somehow?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 4 ай бұрын
You can check continuity with an ohm meter from the center pin of and RCA to the outer ring. If it is open (infinite ohms) or shorted (close to zero ohms) you will get no sound. When muted the continuity will be shorted, so you need to check when the tonearm is at rest and at play. In play your should see a reading of a few hundred ohms. I dont recall excactly, but for most cartridges it runs from a couple hundred to around 700 ohms. It also could be that the cables were shorted where you soldered them to the board. Check continuity and if necessary remove the cables and check continuity at the deck. Good luck and let us know your progress1
@hippiedude72
@hippiedude72 3 жыл бұрын
I've just gotten my RX2 backup & spinning records again, but my platter seems higher in the back than in the front yet across the platter it shows level. The instructions do not show anything about setting the tone arm height or position or azimuth. Do you have instructions for any of that? When i needle drop in the middle of a song it sounds lightly off to one channel for a millisecond, then catches up both channels. I bought another one form Ebay just in case. Soundsmith sells the cartridge's, that's where I got mine, an SMMC3. Thanks!
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
There are three leaf spring for adjusting the platter height. Two are accessible under the platter, for the third the aluminum deck must come off. Set aside a couple hours to tweak these, it is a trial and error process. You can get the platter level and to the correct height. This is covered in the service manual. There is no adjustment for azimuth. Position and height off the record is covered in the service manual. One channel "catching up" is the muting switch. Live with it for now as long as you are getting music.
@iricard
@iricard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just got one of these RX2 in mint condition yesterday and I was wondering about the platter and how susceptible it is to scratch the records. The other 2 B&O (RX) I own, does have what seems to be rubber ridges in the platter to support the vinyl, with this RX2 the design that comes in contact with the record feels like a hard paint. I Tried to solve the issue with a leather mat but the turntable refuses to play at the 33 1/2 because the mat, apparently, doesn't apply enough pressure to the black spindle adapter or the leather is too flexible to let the machine know there is a 33 record on it... any thoughts?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
I wondered the same thing. I learned to trust that it will not scratch and have had zero issues. The table will not function with a mat, which will also throw off the VTA.
@Audiorevue
@Audiorevue Жыл бұрын
So I have a question, I picked one of these up locally for a great price and it has a cartridge with it and it works well. Anyway the queuing and speed buttons and speed sensing features all work exactly like they should the only thing I notice is at the end of the side when the tone arm is returning to its rest position instead of just stopping like yours does mine goes a bit more to the right by like a millimeter or two and then centers up parallel with the buttons in the front. I'm pretty adept about working on electronics and I've worked on a few turntables and coincidentally I downloaded the service manual for the RX2. I guess my question really is have you seen this and if so how do you correct for it
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
The problem will be mechanical, not electrical. The RX2 has an ingenious and surprisingly simple mechanism inside for the auto functions. Open it up and make sure all the wheels and levers and clean of old grease and move very freely. Good luck!
@rengarza
@rengarza 11 ай бұрын
I have a B&O 1900 that I bought in 1986. After years in storage inside my home, I’m trying to resurrect it. The unit will not completely track through an album. I took it back to the location that I bought it from. After an assessment they said it wasn’t repairable. Do you know of any resources for repairs. Thanks
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 11 ай бұрын
There are some cams and levers under the platter than need to be scrupulously clean. These parts need to move freely without sticking. Isopropyl alcohol is a good for this. Cleaning these parts fixes many of the common problems. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
@chuckthebull
@chuckthebull Жыл бұрын
i have had one of them for years and just got it out to go over and and had to fix the arm that was forced one way to far and knocked out of sync.. taking it apart and observing how i figured out what happened and fixed it, but now i realize i packed away the stylus after a move and cant find it ..UGG i cant afford the prices they want for these stylus. Too bad its a really nice player..I was thinking of trying to adapt something else but even that's ridiculously expensive..so now i'm looking at using my 3D printer to design something that can work with a cheaper stylus.. Ughh Poverty sucks!
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
That's a bummer, I hope you find it. These are great tables. I wouldn't bother trying to adapt a standard cartridge, B&O designed these to work together with ultra low mass. Good luck!
@jnnyg65
@jnnyg65 Ай бұрын
Do yourself a favor and play this on 1.5X speed. You're welcome.
@MrCbowman84
@MrCbowman84 Жыл бұрын
I just picked one of these up the other day. Question for you. When hitting the CUE button and moving to a different spot on the record, is there a little bit of resistance in the tonearm? I'm wondering if that's normal with these units. My other player isn't set up that way. Thanks!
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
The resistance could just be the tonearm lifter which will create some drag. Lift up the tonearm by hand during play (carefully of course ) and check if there is horizontal resistance - there should be none. This is what matters and yours is likely perfectly fine. Enjoy!
@MrCbowman84
@MrCbowman84 Жыл бұрын
@@Round2Audio Thanks for the info! It was the lifter. I Replaced the belt and threw a SMMC3 cartridge in. Sounds absolutely amazing. No intergoove distortion. Pretty much perfect playback. You would probably have to spend 1k on a new player for this level of fidelity. I also love that it's automatic. Take it easy and thanks for the reply!
@groovengravy
@groovengravy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember replacing my RX2 MMC4 with a new one for $40 from a B&O shop in late 90s/maybe 2000. I inherited it from my gf who left it behind when we split (plus B&O bookshelf speakers). My tonearm leans toward the center more when idle and the dropping point for 45 is too far out. How do I adjust it? I did have it repaired around 2010 after deciding to use it again. It had a grounding problem, the shop said they soldered a broken connection. The counterweight dial is also not isolated from the weight itself- can it be fixed easily?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wavy, The service manual has adjustments for the drop points in section 5-3. I suggest opening it up and carefully cleaning up the old grease from the cam mechanism and relubricating very very lightly with new synthetic grease. Then walk through the adjustments. These tables can be very nice. Good luck! Bill p.s. The couterweight dial is just stuck, take off the weight and work it back and forth and it should come unstuck. To keep it unstuck soak it overnight in warm soapy water.
@nataniaduhur8770
@nataniaduhur8770 2 жыл бұрын
Hi - thanks for this. If you don't mind me asking, what speakers / pre-amp are using to play this through?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Natania, I have a vintage Yamaha pre-amp, the C-4 from 1979. It has inputs for three turntables, including MM and MC.
@trumpsturn4733
@trumpsturn4733 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic video, esp for rookies like me looking around and wanting to get a turntable! i found: Bang & Olufsen Beograd RX2 type 5833 and it comes with a MMC3 and MMC5 cartridge. any idea $$ for a soundsmith MMC1 cart? is it obvious if a channel is out on one or both of the carts? been a while since I have had a turntable and i would like to get it right, out the gate! Thanks!
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! The best way to check the cart is to play it. If a channel is missing it is usually the cart. You have two carts so you can try out both.
@trumpsturn4733
@trumpsturn4733 3 жыл бұрын
@@Round2Audio Many thanks! off i go down the road. . .
@scotmarechaux2706
@scotmarechaux2706 Жыл бұрын
I just hooked up an RX2 and it functions but the arm does not settle down to play. it skids back to the start. Is there a refreshen process i should do to get this dialed in and tuned up to function? scot marechaux
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
Check the mechanism under the platter. There are mechanical "switches" that get stuck due to old grease.
@joshuawisniewski738
@joshuawisniewski738 2 жыл бұрын
I just came across a brand new one of these. I saw the cost of the replacement cartridge and im kinda on the fence of this. your video here has made me lean more into shelling out to get a cartridge that it didnt come with. Would you say that its worth doing?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
Joshua, I do think it is worth it, especially if you already have a nice table. We're lucky, really, to have these good new cart options available. I don't recommend used carts as they are priced too high given the risks. Enjoy! Bill
@joshuawisniewski738
@joshuawisniewski738 2 жыл бұрын
@@Round2Audio I talked to some of my older AV coworkers and they all knew exactl which B&O turntable I was talking about. they were saying B&O is known for that higher end simplistic style. they were not surprised at the cost of the heads and were also saying that a lot of these turntables often dont come with cartridges. Ill like be getting one sometime soon. Thanks 👍
@1x.Tan_
@1x.Tan_ Жыл бұрын
I just recently bought one of these and it comes with two cables in the back and no sound comes out when played
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
It could be the muting switch, this is designed to cut off the sound during automatic operations. I suggest cleaning up the mechanism inside until everything moves very freely, then if it still doesn't make sound it is the muting switch itself. Good luck!
@jeffchastain2977
@jeffchastain2977 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know anyone who works on these? My RX2 needs tuning up and new RCA cables and connectors.
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 ай бұрын
Feel free to reach out to me at Round2Audio@gmail.com
@dave8396
@dave8396 2 жыл бұрын
Freaking love it. I want it!
@hnc1970
@hnc1970 2 жыл бұрын
How much weight should be on the needle? MMC3 Thanks
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 2 жыл бұрын
The owners manual shows 1.2g for the MMC3. Check out vinylengine.com and download for no cost. You can always tweak to taste, sometimes a tenth or two more is nice.
@bshef3424
@bshef3424 3 жыл бұрын
I "JUST" found one of these and at first it would not cue up and run, it would spin...move over the record, no drop and than return home and turn off. Now, I got it to seemingly operate but there's something not right about the arm/needle.....I'm hearing like it's only playing half the groove at times. weird. Mine has the #5 cart.....Can we talk about getting mine working right?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
A common problem is loss of one channel in the cartridge. Unfortunately this is not fixable and the cart needs to be replaced. Other less common problems are the RCA leads (check they are making good contact) or the muting switch.
@nicholasbrown3321
@nicholasbrown3321 3 жыл бұрын
@@Round2Audio Do you have a website or other means of contacting you? I'm looking for someone who can work on my Beogram 3000. Thanks!
@ingsphotographypatzieddi3522
@ingsphotographypatzieddi3522 3 жыл бұрын
You should adjust the arm pressure. First check the balance/weight of the arm and then adjust the correct needle pressure.
@infinitycovuk699
@infinitycovuk699 3 жыл бұрын
hows the sound quality of these?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
It's very good. B&O made their own proprietary cartridges, which are very small and light. Every aspect of the tonearm is designed to work with the cartridges for an ultra low mass design that works very well.
@josemeda4592
@josemeda4592 3 жыл бұрын
From 1995 to 1991?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
1985 to 1991
@erikwognum4505
@erikwognum4505 Жыл бұрын
Its made from 1995 to 1991, what the hell, is the man mad
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@auttyj9067
@auttyj9067 3 жыл бұрын
how and what do you use to connect the turntable to a speaker to make it play
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
The RX2 has integral RCA leads, which connect to your phono preamp/amp then speakers.
@cspiegs1
@cspiegs1 3 жыл бұрын
How will it handle 12" 45 RPM records?
@Round2Audio
@Round2Audio 3 жыл бұрын
No problem - press play then 45!
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