RX-7 FD3Sデビュー筑波BATTLE!! FD3S Debut!!【Best MOTORing】1992

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RX-7 FD3Sデビュー筑波BATTLE!! FD3S Debut!!【Best MOTORing】1992
1992年1月号、MAZDA RX-7 FD3Sのデビュー。GT-R、NSX、GTOさらには登場したてのランサーエボ3はじめ２リッタースポーツも持ち込みフルテスト。
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@user-om8rj3sk9m 8 жыл бұрын

この時代の日本車は個性があって本当にワクワクしたなあ。

@lovecf35 8 жыл бұрын

今じゃどいつもこいつもハイブリッドですよね

@eight9823 3 жыл бұрын

ハイブリッド…燃費いいのはあんまり魅力に感じないなある程度走ってくれりゃいいかなって感じですね「リッター〇〇キロでますっ！！」なんて言われても僕の場合「ふーんそうなんだぁ(-_-) zzz」って感じですね

@user-qe5hk7gm7v Жыл бұрын

@@eight9823ハイブリッドもキレイに乗ってあげないと燃費出ないですからね。

@ConnerMainChannel 6 жыл бұрын

This is the most Grant Turismo thing I've ever seen; right down to the music.

@saredofuriko6231 5 жыл бұрын

ベスモをずっと見ていた人なら分かると思いますが、基本的にデビューした直後の車はなぜか速くてガンさんの評価も良い。その後、バトルを繰り返す度にタイムが遅くなり評価も下がる一方･･･。

@user-gw3rg9uv8v 5 жыл бұрын

See Fss ただしインテRは除く

@user-jg9es7ty8n 4 жыл бұрын

広報車...

@user-xy8om2hz1u 4 жыл бұрын

Saredo Furiko 確かに

@user-cc4lg6ho9q 3 жыл бұрын

それゃ初めは新車でエンジンもボディーの剛性も高いからでしょう‼️土屋や大井の32GTRにタワーバーの剛性アップの企画をやったけどどちらも新車時はわからなかったけど1万km過ぎた時位に取り付けたら効果を認識出来たといっていたからね❗ベスモ見ている人は理解しているんじゃないの？ベスモはホットバージョンとは趣旨が違うから基本的にノーマルの車両だからね❗基本的に広報車同士だしね❗オーナーカーの場合は発表するから‼️

@user-qo9le7ee9b 3 жыл бұрын

あえて可能性を挙げるとしたら・タイヤの性能向上・ボディ剛性の進化・エンジンの進化などかなと。つまり新車が出る度に評価ポイントがどんどん上になる訳ですね、今まで偏差値60あった車が50になってしまうと。タイムが落ちるのは気温、路面コンディション、ドライバー、個体差があるのでは無いでしょうか。

@pentium8556 7 жыл бұрын

1:55「ガードレールの内側は全部コースだと思ってる」ｗｗ

@user-jj6ig7uo1z 4 жыл бұрын

わしのことじゃな

@user-cb6he3kt5x 3 жыл бұрын

150万でランサーGSR すごい時代だな

@giorx5 8 жыл бұрын

FD3S! What a legendary vehicle! It will never become aged.

@moyoth3580 4 жыл бұрын

giorx5 all of this car in video is never become aged.

@tomazo_0003 3 жыл бұрын

年式古くなると税金上がるっておかしいよな

@user-qz8ki3zu5u 3 жыл бұрын

逆に若者の車離れを助長してる気が...

@exedracs4029 3 жыл бұрын

I own a Z32 so I'm thrilled to watch it go against these other iconic cars. But I have to say those H22 Preludes are super impressive. FWD, Naturally Aspirated, and still held it's own. Amazing.

@peekaboo1575 3 жыл бұрын

Honda was in a league of their own back in the day.

@user-sp7tr3zu8j 4 жыл бұрын

FDのデビュー当時、某N社の整備の学校に通ってました。 FDのテンパータイヤがエンケイのアルミだったり、フロントフェンダーやサスペンション、ブレーキペダルやジャッキまでアルミ製だったので驚きました。学校の仲間と盛り上がったのを思い出します。どのメーカーもスポーツカーは個性や信念がそれぞれ違う。どれも気合が入っているのが感じられて素晴らしかった。雑誌のFD外観予想やスクープが外れてて酷かったなぁｗｗｗ

@SebastianBlix 8 жыл бұрын

Outstanding. Thanks for the upload.

@ahkiii_ 3 жыл бұрын

FD3S body design is 25 years ahead of its time. It still looks modern today unlike other 90s JDMs

@user-gq3ij6st2s 6 жыл бұрын

RX7カッコイいしかも速いしやっぱFD大好き

@thegreatcarraway 6 жыл бұрын

Nobody is talking about the best part of this video: GAN SAN'S SWEATER.

@user-ne3vv9gd7u 10 ай бұрын

他が車体ごと大きく変わっていく中でFDは10年見た目変わらず高性能であり続けたから、この時点ではオーバーテクノロジーだったんじゃないかな。

@Ivan-qy3zl 5 жыл бұрын

Que buenos tiempos corriendo con esa maravilla de autos. Amo este canal

@vyc94 7 жыл бұрын

this is Gran turismo 1 in real life *-* amazing.. this circuit it's same at High Speed Ring 😍😍

@Tony-112 6 жыл бұрын

my favorite game. i still have it

@ChilledGemini99 6 жыл бұрын

SuppaVik Fact: Kazunori Yamauchi(the creator of Gran Turismo) was trained by the leader of Best MOTORing and had tests similar to those in all GT games a lot which are the same actually lol.

@fordmanx3 5 жыл бұрын

Yup 😁👏

@neru4042 5 жыл бұрын

Die Autos aus meinen jungen Jahren, super Video, danke! Gran Turismo lässt grüssen! 👍

@bartekschacht1951 5 жыл бұрын

Der Entwickler von Gran Turismo wurde vom Best Motoring Leiter trainiert.

@UnitiveWILLIAM24 7 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed at how good the Celica GT4 was. Celicas were very underrated, it's sad.

@fukkinkana 6 жыл бұрын

UnitiveWILLIAM24 the driver was amazing. Three wheeling that car through out the corner. Dude was ripping it.

@Krezo200 3 жыл бұрын

Legendary cars Love all of them

@SilverScarletSpider 5 жыл бұрын

I wish I knew the names of all the cars that raced in this video but I can’t read some of the Japanese Hiragana/Katakana. It’s amazing how many “forgotten legends” were featured in this video. This is before the DC2 Honda Integra Type R outshined the Honda Prelude. Before the Toyota Mark 4 Supra made the Mark 3 Supra, Celica GT-4, and MR2 Turbo more obscure. Before the Subaru Impreza WRX STi and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution rose to the top with AWD turbo engines. Before the 300ZX and 3000GTO were sadly forgotten.

@unluckyabsol 5 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking this as I watched this, it's too bad as the 3000gt and the 300zx are some of my favorites in terms of 90s Japanese cars. The only other that hadn't been released yet but made irrelevant by the integra was the fto. But we Americans got stuck with the fat eclipse which is cool but not like the fto

@lazarushernandez5827 5 жыл бұрын

@@unluckyabsol I think the drivetrain/engine of the eclipse(especially the GSX) was represented in the Lancer Evos of the era, though not as extremely tuned.

@fu7725 4 жыл бұрын

@@lazarushernandez5827 the Eclipse was basically a Galant VR4 with a shortened wheelbase and a coupe body.

@shaoyang5650 6 жыл бұрын

He really scratched his helmet lmao 7:45

@user-lj9cr7xj2z 8 жыл бұрын

このRX-7速すぎておかしいような…

@user-ei6xu2pc8l Жыл бұрын

広報車のにおい

@month952 Жыл бұрын

@@user-ei6xu2pc8l昔は良くやってたもんね💧

@tomotaka2416 9 ай бұрын

でもタイム的にはそんなムチャクチャなことしてない感じだよね

@EvolutionVIIIMR_CT9A Жыл бұрын

まだランサーがEvolutionしてない…

@julianlee2 7 жыл бұрын

And the lancer evolution became a monster after this shootout

@josagen 8 ай бұрын

Damn, did that GSR hold its might while it could or what? Impressive stuff!

@bobriley000444 5 жыл бұрын

Tsuchiya driving like gran turismo drift physics

@michael__fernandez69 4 жыл бұрын

バトル後のガンさんのセーター、なんなんだこれは・・・ｗ

@KYODAI_BABAA_ 6 жыл бұрын

元さん、なんちゅー柄の服を着てんだ狩人…？

@fabianmarcoschau 3 жыл бұрын

Even though I don't understand a single Japanese word, I understand what the driver at 2:17 said, it's like the God of cars made me understand his feelings

@gseric4721 5 жыл бұрын

Man, what a battle.

@user-kv5bh1sn8i 5 жыл бұрын

3:05 Z32があっという間にR32に抜かれた😭

@KC16A6 6 жыл бұрын

That sweatshirt is really from the 90's hahahah In case you missed the fact that it's hunting season... the camera will zoom in on the scene ;)

@WeiJie_Chen 7 жыл бұрын

Rx7 FD3S is the best^^

@user-de9bd2je5h 7 жыл бұрын

ほとんどの車種にエアバッグがない　時代だな。

@dr.enrico5499 6 жыл бұрын

7:43 土屋さん面白いな

@GT4tube 7 жыл бұрын

This amazing classic cars racing than newest cars...

@GuzziHeroV50 4 жыл бұрын

The Lancer was valiant, but no match for these cars. hearing the RX7 driver, he was like grandad mumbling on the way to the shops :D GT-R driver was having the most fun though!

@user-io8nv6vc5c 5 жыл бұрын

公報チューンしてたとして、他はしてないって言えるのか？

@kq2100siemens 4 жыл бұрын

この翌年にモデルチェンジするとはいえ、このメンツだと70スープラのデザインの古さが際立つ

@heitorportella8522 4 жыл бұрын

I love RX-7

@JDM_FD 8 жыл бұрын

RX7 FTW

@mocchisho.youtube 7 жыл бұрын

粕谷さんは個人的に好きじゃないなあ〜〜他のベスモのレースでもブロックばっかりで。

@constantinelheman Жыл бұрын

Sexy then, sexy now. RX-7 design is just timeless.

@randyranderson1621 4 жыл бұрын

Was cool but I wish they used an Evo 1, not a 1800cc GSR lancer, also the honda prelude should have been a honda civic.

@ishz3260 5 жыл бұрын

By looking at this race. Looks like none turbo 300zx lol

@Flying_GC 4 жыл бұрын

@@josephbrady711 heavy piece of shit eh? Maybe dont comment on things you have zero clue in future.

@dr.enrico5499 6 жыл бұрын

RX-7ずば抜けて美しいな

@msnb76 2 ай бұрын

説明文『ランサーエボ3』は誤りで、正しくはエボ登場以前の『ランサーGSR』です。　恥ずかしいので早く直してください

@kuinabe5615 Ай бұрын

ランサーGSRこの時１８００ターボ4WDだったかなこの前のGSRが1600ターボ4WDで乗ってた☺️

@user-bg1pl7fh6u 7 жыл бұрын

このFDはおかしいぞ。某33Rの広報車っぽい気がする

@user-lq4in4ne3f 7 жыл бұрын

ゆっくりスタジオ寧ろ他の速いのが団子でもたついてたのが結構効いてるから相対的に速いだけでは

@aaabbb-tz9vf 7 жыл бұрын

ゆっくりスタジオ有り得ますね。　足回り+ブーストちょっと上げてるかも。　広報チューンおそるべしｗ

@ksmskou3708 5 жыл бұрын

@@aaabbb-tz9vf どうなのでしょうか。僕は広報チューンはしてないと思いますけど？元々FDは他のレースでも速い方ですし。例えばセリカがNSXよりもダントツで速いなら、広報チューンの可能性もあり得ますが、FDの広報チューンの可能性は、ほぼゼロと言えるでしょう。

@user-pt3mn8of6g 4 жыл бұрын

@@ksmskou3708 なんでそんなにFDへ絶大な信頼おいてるのかは知らんが初期のFDって別に速くないぞ... パワーも中途半端トルクはロータリーだし元々無い剛性もそんなに高くない足りないタイヤのサイズそこから起きる低い限界領域後期になるとここらが改善されていって大分よくなるけど初期はな... 今回のマシンは初期なのにちょっち速すぎる

@Petrospect 5 жыл бұрын

Can this be translated?

@jewel_jewel_jewel 5 жыл бұрын

fd3s 最高

@andyka591 4 жыл бұрын

My god, MK4 Supra isn't even exist yet...

@soranagashima8809 8 жыл бұрын

このFD3Sは、おかしいw

@manjiookami7962 6 жыл бұрын

Tsuchiya-san GT-R goes like in Eneesharu Dee

@ColtSSR 5 жыл бұрын

The Prelude got lost on the way to the supermarket.

@TheBb6prelude 5 жыл бұрын

Terry Tibbs ha ha ha nice joke their you ricer.

@TheBb6prelude 5 жыл бұрын

Terry Tibbs you obviously haven’t seen the jun prelude.

@koba6619 6 жыл бұрын

懐かしいな～この当時R32乗ってた FDが速いというか、スタート後の団子状態から抜け出すのが遅かったから追いつききれないって感じ土屋はケツ流しすぎかな

@fabianmarcoschau 3 жыл бұрын

Dude the r32 looks so hard to drive😭makes me want a r32 less to see how the driver fights it

@user-ep3oq2fs8i 7 жыл бұрын

この頃の7､280に馬力になってないよね？

@user-wq1cj8hd9f 6 жыл бұрын

蠟燭マンだいたい255馬力位です

@ajrichar0 4 жыл бұрын

Tsuchiya drove that GT-R far too sideways. He took a drift approach which is simply not the fastest way around. I know he drove the Taisan Klepper GT-R in the JTC at this time, but the approach of pitching in the GT-R sharply to induce oversteer, then balance constant oversteer through the corner, was not the fastest way to do it. It used the AWD system to hold the drift oversteer, but not to maximise the traction advantage out of the corner. And Tsukuba has three major hairpin corners that are made for cars like the GT-R.

@user-cb3dl5ob1s 7 жыл бұрын

やっぱ一番良いタイヤ履いてるだけはあるなＲＸ－７。Ｓ－０７。タイヤの差だと思う

@csykes23 4 жыл бұрын

Did he just scratch an itch on his helmet at 7:45 ?????

@camrunner6633 3 жыл бұрын

Not a bas show from the gto, heaviest car there by quite a margin

@kouichihonma7162 5 жыл бұрын

70スープラについて 2.5ツインターボRはこのぐらいの速さなんですよね。スペックで劣るはずの 3.0ターボAは筑波Lap1分10秒台で2秒程速くバトルだとZ32よりも速かった。

@latias314 5 жыл бұрын

TAしたってNSXと0.4しか違わないじゃない。他の方が言ってるように序盤の団子が聞いたんでしょ

@godgirlsguitars 4 жыл бұрын

What the pit is in that Rx7? I can't believe that's a stock rx7. When I saw it pass 3 cars to take 2nd place on the start I just said that the driver must be Kyle Busch's Japanese cousin. Then after it took the lead it was gone.

@godgirlsguitars 4 жыл бұрын

That nsx was fast too. Once it got 2nd place it kept up with the rx7, might have been gaining a little ground too.

@jeremysteib8378 4 жыл бұрын

RX7's main weapon being chassis balance and handling, made to tackle small technical road courses such as Tsukuba. The NSX did well and showed it's potential. While I was surprised the R32 GTR couldn't stick with them better, it never really lost a lot of ground after awhile, but couldn't catch back up either, the front tires looked like they were overheating as the under steer became very evident. The other powerhouses (Z32, Supra, GTO, MR2) bringing up the middle of the pack fell victim to traffic and had a hard time holding a more preferable racing line to take full advantage of their potential.

@OneSupernova1 4 жыл бұрын

Rx7 is tyre was new type in this era and Mazda elaborated this car of debut. So this car has arraignment precisely and pick good condition car. That cause this resault.

@pascalmpower7944 8 жыл бұрын

Love the R32! It's the heaviest, tallest, front-mid layout with same amount of power as NSX and RX7 type R yet it smokes the NSX and just 0.13 second behind RX7 type R, I'm pretty sure the R32 lost that 0.13 second on back straight due to less power to weight ratio by 280 hp regulation (Not because RB26!!). The NSX has mid-engine layout meaning low rotational inertia, both NSX and RX7 are lighter, with lower body, lower ground clearance and RWD. RWD allows more negative camber and positive caster but they still caught up by the R32 lol. The R32 is impressive, it doesn't have the chassis, weight and suspension advantage but it has the all mighty ATTESA ET-S. I can see the handling of R32 is more adjustable at lower speed, that's because lower speed= lower relative power and the ATTESA ET-S allows rear wheels spinning 5% faster than the front, not too much but enough to loosen the rear for reducing turning radius. The car will under-steer at high speed because of its weight but I'm impressed by the way it saves the understeer at 8:02. He reached 3,500-4,000 rpm at that time I think and that's about to reach its max torque, so the power delivery can be quite effective, in other word, if he quickly release the throttle in that situation, it'll perform engine brake, it requires good front-rear traction balance in order to maintain dynamic and the ATTESA did so well fighting against the inertia. I mean ATTESA is very good at maintaining traction balance against high inertia load by sending most of the power at the rear which aids the car to turn instead of sending to the front for "driver-friendly". Beside that, close gear ratios allows equal amount of acceleration off corner as NSX and RX7, rear transmission+ rear mounted FWD transfer case allows better weight distribution and I believe both R32 and NSX has similar weight distribution. Therefor, physical traction balance should be identical. A 1,430 kg car can handle as balance as a 1,270-1,360 kg car... Good job Nissan!

@cirilobeto 7 жыл бұрын

It smokes the NSX? it might have had a better time in qualifying but during the actual race the RX7 and NSX blew it away. Not to diminish the GT-R, it's a great car, but the front tires just can't deal with the extra weight for a long period of time. Also the weight distribution is nowhere close to the NSX's. With the engine up front it's about 55/45% F/R. NSX is more like 42/58% F/R. The GT-R might do great in a single lap but once you put it in a 5 lap battle the front tires just give up and you have tons of understeer. Nissan should have put more rubber in the GT-R. I bet that would have changed the result and the GT-R might have had a better chance if it could consistently keep the same time it had in qualifying for the whole race. But yeah, for its specs, the GT-R was impressive!

@andipajeroking 7 жыл бұрын

And do not forget that the r32 achieves that because of the turbo! Without the turbo it would have been slower. Put a turbo on the nsx and brace for impact :))

@calebromero8328 6 жыл бұрын

Also, the FD3S RX-7 only had around 251hp in 1992, if it had the same hp as the R32, the power to weight ratio would have been so so much better, and the FD does so well in the corners due to its perfect 50/50 weight distribution. The power band in the FD is also very usable considering it had sequential turbos allowing the power to be there at any RPM, and even though it doesn’t make nearly as much power as the GT-R or the NSX it had a higher rev limit allowing for more wheel speed thus limiting the amount of time you would need to shift keeping it in the power band for longer periods of time. But all three cars are incredibly cool

@cordiasr7021 6 жыл бұрын

There was no regulation on power lol it still made 320hp the agreement was to keep all power numbers publicly disclosed to be less than 280(but all of them made more irl)

@24preludeh 3 жыл бұрын

You sound salty pascal lol. The Gtr is heavy Imagine if that was the NSX type R? No chance!! lol

@user-bm8km1dg5b 7 ай бұрын

NSXVTEC力強いエンジン音。でもランサー抜かれながらも頑張っている。

@fr-novice8095 3 жыл бұрын

DK just lettin the GT-R’s ass slide haha

@user-ub8yx7bp9g 3 жыл бұрын

マニュアル良いよねぇ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)

@user-px1ro6zc3e 6 жыл бұрын

150万で買えるのか

@eduardoescobar566 4 жыл бұрын

Celica 😍

@nor-3576 4 жыл бұрын

シフトミスを認めない黒さん土屋：清水さん無言だろうな！！NSXで！

@tsts5796 7 жыл бұрын

果たしてどうなりますか。で笑った

@tsts5796 7 жыл бұрын

がんさん好きだわー爆笑

@95mushroom 6 жыл бұрын

GTO definitely *ZERO* love in this video. Barely any screen time, and 0 onboard footage.

@300zxttswap6 4 жыл бұрын

Thx for the heads uo

@bloodngold7751 4 жыл бұрын

Not entirely true

@omercakr6031 4 жыл бұрын

Rx7 Mazda perfect

@user-rq6xv3ou1t 4 жыл бұрын

このfdが早いのはタイヤのおかげです

@DerangedSloth555 8 жыл бұрын

Tsuchiya drifting a 32....

@brynblacster7106 7 жыл бұрын

DerangedSloth555 im just focus the same thing.

@elbenja0088 6 жыл бұрын

No ATTESA ETS :v

@bullracing1 6 жыл бұрын

Andd he also drifted a FWD civic

@kuchumoff3575 4 жыл бұрын

GTR 🔝

@user-ne6gx2ss4v 6 жыл бұрын

FD好きだけどここまで来るとさすがに胡散臭い…w

@badsaint8482 4 жыл бұрын

いや、広報車はいじってるから実際速い。

@Houji-T 6 жыл бұрын

デビューだからFD勝たせなかったらマツダに何言われるかわかんないししょうがないね

@user-lh6fc8qf7f 4 жыл бұрын

ガンさんマジック！

@jish8080 3 жыл бұрын

Nsx th gem* engineering 👍

@user-mv1oq9wu1b 3 жыл бұрын

懐かしいコメント読んでたら、あのマイカー事件以来、BMの信頼感無くなったんだね。長年マツダに勤務したけど当時は日本はまだ裕福でそんなセコい事しなくてもよく売れたし、マツダは細工する程器用じゃなかったし。この日の状況に合ったんだろうな。セブンは暑さに弱い ww

@msnb76 2 ай бұрын

むしろあのR33マイカー事件はBMが日産の欺瞞を暴いたのですから、BMの信頼感は上がって然るべきじゃないでしょうか…？

@hundredshin 6 ай бұрын

土屋さん途中からドリドリして遊んでるな笑

@user-jt9gx3zj8j 3 жыл бұрын

28年も前かよ....みんなわかいなぁ....

@KORTOKtheSTRONG Ай бұрын

neat

@tf7274 5 жыл бұрын

Most of these cars would have trouble with a diesel Jetta now...

@TheBb6prelude 5 жыл бұрын

T F no

@jasjinderdhesi3221 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBb6prelude better tire tech has allowed so much improvement in chassis suspension brakes etc. The times have helped cars

@user-ei6xu2pc8l 3 жыл бұрын

FD速すぎんか笑

@OneSupernova1 4 жыл бұрын

粕谷さんのブロックはガン爺所ではない

@fabianmarcoschau 3 жыл бұрын

The supra driver was kinda lazy it looked like

@user-zv1ne6hu9g 4 жыл бұрын

大井さん土屋さん黒沢さん以外誰も知らねえ😂笑笑

@Atago_on_tube 7 жыл бұрын

FD早すぎだろちょっと…… ブーストあげてるんだな

@Naopio- 7 жыл бұрын

むしろ時がたつほどブーストダウンしてるからこれが真の力なんだよ。遅いFDは経年劣化とかヘタってることが原因なのさ。

@idziokracja4186 5 жыл бұрын

I don't believe this is true 32 is mutch faster

@jasjinderdhesi3221 4 жыл бұрын

That weight over 6 laps doesn't help the brakes and tires.

@user-hy4gr4rd3h 4 жыл бұрын

FDが速すぎるというよりも、NSXとGT-Rが遅すぎるんだよ(´・ω・`) NSXとGT-Rが本気で走って1分9秒なわけがないやん(´・ω・`)

@masaharuikeda9364 7 жыл бұрын

このVTRを見てもまだGT-Rが日本一最速の車といえるのか？ちなみに僕は断然ホンダ派だな!!

@homogaki 7 жыл бұрын

池田雅治アホか、後番手スタートで前が詰まって差が広がっただけだろ FD、NSXに圧勝してるシーンなんぞ腐るほどあるわww

@user-kt1lo9jo6c 7 жыл бұрын

少なくとも今は最速だと思うね。今のnsxはタイヤがお粗末らしいし、すごい壊れやすそうだし…

@saredofuriko6231 7 жыл бұрын

＞このVTRを見てもまだGT-Rが日本一最速の車といえるのか？何年前の映像見てコメントしてんだよwww

@oktave. 6 жыл бұрын

VTEC信者さんかな？