Best Ammo For Duck 🦆 Hunting?

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What is The Best Ammo For Duck Hunting? We're taking a look at a variety of factors of ammunition from size, speed, and different types of metals to get a better grasp on what the best ammo choice for duck hunting is. Thank you to Federal for supplying all the ammo for this test.
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Steve Gould
0:00 Intro to Best Ammo for Duck Hunting
0:49 How to Read a Box of Shotgun Ammunition
2:12 Types of Ammo for Duck Hunting
5:30 Choke Tube Selection for Duck Hunting
7:39 Using LongShot Camera to Pattern
8:03 30-yard Patterning
12:57 30-yard Summary
14:46 40-yard Patterning
17:56 40-Yard Summary
23:25 Best Duck Ammo Ballistic Gell
26:05 Ballistic Gell Summary
28:01 Conclusion
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@TargetFocusedLife Жыл бұрын

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@timdolfi9090 Жыл бұрын

Did it!

@Laughinghawg Жыл бұрын

Steve, at what distance did you shoot the gel blocks?

@sillygoose4141 6 ай бұрын

Could you do a video on Migra ammunition shells?

@mollybaumann415 Жыл бұрын

I've always bought whatever steel I can find cheapest. It all seems to pattern about the same in my gun, and all kills birds just as dead. If I'm spending that much money on TSS, I'm water swatting to make sure I don't waste it. If I'm water swatting, I might as well shoot steel anyways.

@robertshockley9380 Жыл бұрын

Steel just doesn't penetrate when a duck has it's wings folded in

@ballisticlt7452 Жыл бұрын

Yep. Always keep a couple tss Turkey loads just in case I need to water swat a trophy bird at 60 yards 😂

@WanderingBobAK Жыл бұрын

Swatting, is that equivalent to skipping stones?

@mollybaumann415 Жыл бұрын

@@WanderingBobAK shooting birds on the water instead of in the air. It's not fun, but it is harder to miss.

@MartellOutdoors 2 ай бұрын

Thats bs @robertshockley9380

@jonathanhornbuilders Жыл бұрын

Those tss prices got me wondering if i would even pull the trigger. lol Great video!

@landrycoy5397 Жыл бұрын

I miss too much too shoot those shells

@truss2005 Жыл бұрын

Too much to buy. I’d shoot them all day tho.

@benblazek3305 Жыл бұрын

My kids don't stop pulling the trigger. I can't wait till they can handle the recoil of a 20 ga and can move them up to that and bismuth. But when your 5 old wants to kill ducks and mom says it's OK, the 410 and tss for the win

@duckbrian7973 Жыл бұрын

Look around online at ammo shops. It’s not that high.

@truss2005 Жыл бұрын

@@duckbrian7973 the tss is. 69.99 for 10

@MultiMuskyman Жыл бұрын

Federal speed shock is one of the most under rated shell in water fowl hunting. I’ve tried ‘em all Kent black cloud heavy x etc. at 30 yards had same results you did. A lot of pellets in circle and hi count at point of impact. Been using them for years now and my shooting percentage has remained very consistent. Plus the price is right. Keep up the great videos big fan.

@roblacitinola866 Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed, I have shot Federal for 40 years, and always go back to it, whenever I change out of curiosity, or a good deal...Federal rules the day, day in and day out-

@CC-oy8pl Жыл бұрын

Been wanting to do this myself but don’t wanna spend $100-$200 just to test ammo out. So glad you spent the time AND money so we don’t have to!

@OG_Ghost Жыл бұрын

Steve - thank you for taking the time and putting together this awesome video together. Waterfowlers are dying for facts and not just the hearsay we get in the fields from other hunters. Enlightening as always! Cheers

@jeffreygriffin1963 Жыл бұрын

Great video Steve ! I’ve always shot lower end steel largely because of what you touched on with the tss you Better be hitting if you’re shooting that. If I felt I was hitting a large percentage of my shots and still wasn’t getting good performance I might make a change.

@RDReynoldsOutdoors Жыл бұрын

glad your back making videos. great info

@frequency79 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve for such a great job 👏👏👏

@truss2005 Жыл бұрын

Great vid and much needed. A lot of people do a vid about one of these not multiple. Much appreciated

@alexflynn7000 Жыл бұрын

Great video man. I always learn more than what I know after watching your videos. I would really like to see that different patterns of different size Carlson choke. I’ve been wanting to get one but I’m still not exactly sure which one I want yet. Thanks

@igorventsel 6 ай бұрын

Steve thank you for putting together this awesome video together. I am a beginner and just started to learn shut guns and ammo. for me it is very confusing information but by watching your videos I start anderstand more and more. Thank you for your time and effort to help people .

@dereksullins4841 Жыл бұрын

Bismuth all day everyday. It's the most well rounded choice. Based on the results with what you were shooting during the video, I wouldn't waste any money on Black Cloud. Your comment about the Pintail and TSS made sense, and I too might carry two boxes of that ammo in the field for special occasions.

@nicholaswallor271 Жыл бұрын

Awesome channel thanks for all the reviews. Super helpful I was in the market for another shot gun and your reviews helped me make my mind up. If looking for more content would love to see a video comparing the basic duck ammo against each other. If you’re ever in Washington state on the coast we have pintails coming out of our ears and could get you on some.

@sikandershah9619 Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Colorado!! This is a very limited selection to truly justify which shotshell works best. I have been shooting Kent Steel since the day they came out in the late 90s'. They have worked flawless. Lately I have switched to Winchester Blind Side. These shells work excellent. Just my two cents worth!!

@jerrylockard6948 Жыл бұрын

Let me compliment you on a very well done video. You did a great job in comparing all aspects of the various ammunition patterning, ballistics and price.

@tomstoffer2963 Жыл бұрын

Since you asked about what else would I like to see for more videos. At the top my list would be roughly the same kind of analysis for upland ammo including a comparison of lead vs steel characteristics and choke size with steel vs lead . Love your channel!

@colin2828 Жыл бұрын

Great idea. Just curious, why would one use steel for upland? I thought waterfowl hunters only stopped using lead due to the ban of hunting lead shot over waterways, so upland would always be fine with lead shot.

@ryanwalsh2995 Жыл бұрын

We cannot use any lead on public lands here in MN

@tomstoffer2963 Жыл бұрын

@@colin2828 thanks. Last year was the first year I’ve hunted in about 45 years when I was a kid. There was basically no upland ammo available except for Kent FastSteel where I live, so I used that and it worked just fine. 2 weeks ago I found some Prairie Storm but only in #4steel shot but wanted to try it (especially wanted to see if 1600 fps would make a difference). Used that on day one of a hunt and it was like I couldn’t miss. Used #5 lead shot the next day without near the success. Not saying it was all because of which shot I was using but it seemed like it mattered. I’m just looking for what works best and I’m fine using steel if it’s better for me. I’m also going go out and pattern test and do my own comparisons of lead vs steel, shot size, and maybe brand comparisons as well. Thanks for the question.

@bradbiegert Жыл бұрын

@@ryanwalsh2995 actually you can use lead on WMA's as long as you are not waterfowl hunting. If you are waterfowl hunting then yes, it is non-toxic shot only. Federal WPA's are non-toxic shot only regardless of which game you are hunting. personally, I am making the switch over to non-toxic for everything I hunt with a shotgun just to avoid the hassle of remembering where I can and can't shot certain types of shot.

@southpawzoverland Жыл бұрын

@@colin2828 Most western states I hunt have banned or plan on banning all lead for hunting.

@gregbreslau4155 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. It would be cool do a similar video comparing the results with lower end ammo options. Federal Speed Shok, WInchester Xpert, Remington Sportsman, etc. Learning a lot from you - thanks!

@tavisthrom4745 Жыл бұрын

I agree. For those of us who can’t afford the $3 per shot and up options. Would be great to see a comparison of the different steel choices.

@jamesgoober8335 Жыл бұрын

pretty sure hes sponsored by federal lol

@reelingminnesota2855 Жыл бұрын

The best patterns and performance I've seen out of the cheap ammo was fiocci Dakota county loads. Fed blue box was second and I wouldn't give the xpert away to anyone if they needed ammo.

@pjoffrion Жыл бұрын

The most prolific duck hunter i know uses a remington 870 and remington sportsman. Good results. Who knows how many rounds that 870 has shot.

@christopherjohnson4618 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see you test the Kent fast steel waterfowl loads on the ballistics gel. That is what I use and the down range velocity is 1560

@20batch Жыл бұрын

I used the Federal Black Cloud TSS 3&9 on conservation goose (meant to use the BB&7) out to 40 yards and it folded geese like a lawn chair. The results were even better when I had the BB&7. I don't hunt waterfowl often, so if I do it will be either the Federal Black Cloud TSS or TSS custom loaded by Apex. I patterned my SBE3 and 28" with several different loads out to 50+ yard using a Carlson's Federal Black Cloud Long Range (full) choke. All patterned well, but the Federal loads beat out the others. Close second was Hevi-Shot XII, which uses a TSS blend pellet to achieve 12 g/cc. My older ammo will only be used for finishing shots. FYI - Spending money on expensive ammo will not make anyone a better shot. Best to get out and do the pattern testing and go shooting at a sporting clays range to become proficient.

@CC-oy8pl Жыл бұрын

The only thing I wish you have done differently is maybe shoot each brand 3-5x and compare the averages. Might take more time and cost a little more but you’ll have a lot more accurate results. Absolutely love the video regardless!!

@czjunky2045 Жыл бұрын

Awsome video great description

@JoshDowling-of7bv Жыл бұрын

I found these videos recently as I'm thinking about replacing my Browning Gold shotgun and watching reviews. Great content, on this subject I can only see spending six bucks a shot at sandhill cranes or trumpet swans or something.

@WhatupG Жыл бұрын

Yeah... TSS is definitely impressive, but I'm not spending that much on ammo. I did step up to the Boss shells, going with the 3/5 duplex and I'm really impressed with the pattern versus the 3" #2's I had been shooting. I am getting nearly 50% more pellets on target than with the steel.

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@sharpen-up 9 ай бұрын

Stellar content mate

@PonderosaSoundStudio Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Appreciated the stats and ballistics results, also appreciating that while a bunch of repeats at each distance with each type of ammunition would give more representative stats, there are also some very practical upper limits to that in producing a video of this nature. While the TSS or bismuth shot undoubtedly has more "killing power" as you've shown, my thoughts went to an additional consideration: how much meat damage (and therefore meat wastage) is being incurred comparatively across the different types of ammunition? Another way of asking this is: how many pellets is enough to do the job ethically, quickly and humanely with unnecessarily destroying meat? That might have been a good additional consideration to include or at least to have discussed. It almost struck me that in every instance, the lowest-cost ammunition may have actually yielded some of the least meat damage. If you're hunting to put meat on the table, and mindful of conservation, surely this is a pretty major consideration?

@roosterboy7357 Жыл бұрын

Diameter is also something to consider even if you have a higher density palette when it comes to terminal ballistics. Get you some fed or win #2 shot 3” or 2 3/4” and your good to go, no need for all that fancy stuff

@coreydavis7810 Жыл бұрын

Going to MO in a few months for conservation order snow geese... I think that Federal "blue box" will suit our group fine. Probably will opt for BB, using a steel-proofed IM / Light Full choke... Great video. Thanks much!

@dancramer5542 Жыл бұрын

Great video thank you for putting it out. I would go with the federal. I feel it was the most Consistent all around for the price point. Also I would like to see you do one of these with turkey loads since turkey season is right around the corner.

@sharonmechling7332 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison . Thank you.

@chevyon37s Жыл бұрын

My favorite duck load is a Boss shot shells 2 3/4” #4 1 1/4oz. Same payload as most 3” steel loads, and kills better. I’m never going back to steel.

@Macdaddy22713 Жыл бұрын

Best duck load video i have ever seen by far

@rickannriccioni4334 Жыл бұрын

My go to load in the duck blind is federal speed shock 3" 1 1/4 Oz. #2 but now I'm considering going to the tss as maybe the third shot in the gun all the time

@scottrosenblath5737 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you 🙏

@punisher8353 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!, I would love to see a follow up to this answering the question: does barrel length change the results? If you shot a 24 inch barrel vs a 30 inch would you get the same results?

@benblazek3305 Жыл бұрын

Also boss bismuth is the way to go. The price is a touch higher than premium steel but much lower than $63 a box

@CanadianWaterfowler Жыл бұрын

Very well done! Thank you! 👍

@southeastsportsmen Жыл бұрын

Steel 6 shot has some of the best performance I've seen on ducks. I've shot Boss, I'm not super impressed for the money but a lot of people like it.

@duckbrian7973 Жыл бұрын

I ended up with a carlsons black cloud TSS choke with my gun and at 30 yards the pattern is about the size of a basketball. Few other loads have been beautiful patterns outta that choke. I’m a firm believer that black cloud needs a black cloud choke. That tss blend is worth the price and I got a bargain on a few boxes. I want ducks DOA when they hit the water. Think about how many times you have to shoot at cripples and how many times you could have saved add’l shots with a better shell

@timg7627 Жыл бұрын

Extrordinary effort making this video. Well done Sir 👏👏

@DaveThomspon Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. We have been shooting Kent steel #2 for ducks and BB’s for geese in 2 3/4 and 3”’for years with great success. Averages shots 35 yards. Using Benelli SB and stock chokes. Tried the Federal

@DaveThomspon Жыл бұрын

When we tried Federal before discovering Kent we were very disappointed. However they may have made improvements.

@millionjakeus Жыл бұрын

I had a lot of light strikes with federal in 3 different guns

@DaveThomspon Жыл бұрын

@@millionjakeus yes exactly what we experienced. I found Federals very dirty compared to Kents

@teddynaicker2997 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveThomspon . Yes, same here.

@ericcantrelle2897 Жыл бұрын

I live in south Louisiana and us Cajuns look forward to the opening of duck season and most of us hunt coots. I shoot the browning a5 and use federal all day with no complaints. Great shell for price and effectiveness

@wyattjordan4273 Жыл бұрын

The factory goose band choke in my A5 with the mod loves the speed shock number 4s and it works great

@reelingminnesota2855 Жыл бұрын

I tried black cloud shells one weekend and gave them away afterwards. The few birds I was able to knock down (knocked feathers off plenty) the black cloud pellets were just stuck under the skin. Seeing them prices I'm glad I bought cases of fiocci Dakota county when it was 9.99 a box...plus they throw consistent 90% patterns out of the choke I use. Ps if you come across any primos dead zone duck chokes (discontinued) buy them. Best 10 dollar chokes I've ever patterned.

@dans.2058 Жыл бұрын

I learned my lesson with steel. Switched to Boss 3 inch 3/5’s

@tweet243 Жыл бұрын

Uses to buy what ever steel i could fiochi was main cheap brand then went to hevi steel constantly and got boss bismuth with copper coating and haven't switched back absolutely love the bismuth rounds

@bkelso06 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I would like to see the results with a full choke.

@johnathanstorm6939 Жыл бұрын

I say shoot what you got and practice, for me it’s steel good middle of the road performance and ain’t going to break the bank, great video as always

@harleyeg05 Жыл бұрын

I have never hunted Fowl. I have never owned a shot gun. I move to Texas to be with my son and this is what he wants to do. Bird Hunt. So what does a good dad do....Start educating the both of us and researching and getting a "KZfaqcation". Your videos give me things to think about and encourage me to ask more questions. Thank you for sharing!

@JOELCONLEY Жыл бұрын

I have tried many steel loads. I run a cabelas black Maxx choke tube (cabelas branded carlson cremator) and have tried 9 different loads. The cheap Winchester expert and federal speed shock are the top two on the pattern board. Have taken birds most with them. More premium brands didn't do better, but I also ran a fairly tight choke when I patterned black cloud and that likely hurt its pattern as they prefer less constriction.

@myunclegoo Жыл бұрын

This was a fantastic video.

@danebergeron4478 7 ай бұрын

I love your videos. You do a great service for consumers. I would like to see you do more tests with factory chokes. I have 3 A5 Wicked Wings and 1 Maxus Wicked Wing (I have four grandsons so they have shotguns when they are ready). The Banded chokes that come with the WW editions are made by Biley. I have found them to be better than any aftermarket chokes I have patterned.

@tomgensel4134 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff 👍

@sprayandprayhunting5711 Жыл бұрын

the best bro love them when are you going to do the 20vs20 gas vs inertia pls 😃

@brethuntsman4678 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Just one quick note - the figures quoted as ‘energy’ were actually ‘energy density,’ which is energy divided by the frontal area of the pellet. It gives you a rough estimate of the penetrating power of the pellet (which was largely confirmed by the gel test). A huge experiment back in the 1970’s found that 235 ft.lbs./in2 was sufficient energy density to achieve lethal penetration on mallard-sized targets. All of the ammo you tested met this minimum at 40 yards (the steel 3’s were right at the minimum value). Keep up the good work!

@JH-wk9gw Жыл бұрын

I did some research and most factory flush improved cylinder chokes are going to be comparable in actual constriction to the choke you used. most people using factory chokes will be using mod i assume... very interesting.....

@Cornsurfer95 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent & informative video. I’d like to see the cheap rounds with smaller shot, like 4 & 6.

@mikestackz854 Жыл бұрын

Would have liked to see some 3 1/2’ shells to see the difference between 3’ and 3 1/2’

@krucker13 Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a video of different sizes of shot, and how they compare to each other. Similar to this would like to see the pattern and the ballistic gel test. Think it would be cool!

@harleyeg05 Жыл бұрын

I am new to the world of shotgun and Fowl hunting. Your question about different sizes, and meat preservation with those shot loads would be interesting indeed.

@vanderwell07ify Жыл бұрын

Now do a video on upland loads. Fiocchi Golden Pheasant is my favorite in 12 and 20

@nebraskaman8247 9 ай бұрын

Boss makes some amazing bismuth shells. What I like is they sell direct to consumer, so you don’t pay all the extra price hikes from manufacturer to retailer to consumer. They can be had for less than black cloud.

@josearellano5778 Жыл бұрын

I like to mix the rounds up‼️ A little bit of everything‼️ Helps the pockets‼️ And I get a variety spread‼️

@gonewinchester3385 Жыл бұрын

My favorite load is the Federal Speed Shoks. I do however on hunts where I get a chance to shoot something I don’t always see I will use Boss 3in 1 1/2oz bismuth loads like I used to kill my tundra swan and pintails

@ryanbustin4926 Жыл бұрын

I only shoot speed shok. My gun shoots it the best so thats what i shoot. Its a bonus that its the cheapest! Great video!

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@mckeeshoneybees8351 3 ай бұрын

Nice video. I would like to see a video on reloading steel shot and the difference in velocities by changing a few gr of powder and how it changes the pattern. Thanks

@epictcg4424 10 ай бұрын

Gotta go with the speedshock. The price for performance cant be beaten but the TSS is also not bad, Feel like I would definitely like to use it for Turkey etc. Exactly like how you mentioned it.

@TheChancerdog1 Жыл бұрын

I have used Kent Fasteel for a long time but after this case runs out I am going to switch it to the Boss stacked loads. I’ve seen feathers fly off honkers and keep flying and probably go die somewhere. I want that hard hitter/clean kill as much as I can afford it

@toddbunnett640 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I’ve been shooting federal blue box and faststeel my whole life until recently I’m done with kent as the 2.0 stuff is just garbage. Blue box it is!! Unless your shooting sub gauge guns or old guns that can’t handle steel than bismuth and tungsten isn’t worth the money. I personally think bismuth is the biggest gimmick in the waterfowl world right now. #9 tungsten will absolutely devastate a duck, but I don’t like eating pellets either.

@JH-wk9gw Жыл бұрын

I love speed shok. I shoot #4's and get a lot more bbs on target because they are smaller. It knocks ducks dead out to 50 yards and decoying goose shot in the neck and head are dead before they hit the ground.

@BMWQC Жыл бұрын

I use speed shock regularly, but if I ever get a swan tag, I’ll spend the money on the tss for sure

@AHBeeMaa Жыл бұрын

I started using Federal Black Cloud TSS 3&9 this season and the results have been devastating compared to steel or steel/bismuth blend. By mistake I loaded the 3&9 instead of the BB&7 for goose and I folded two of them like lawn chairs at 40 yards. The first with one shot, the second took two. My shotgun is a SBE3 with a Carlson's Black Cloud TSS FULL choke. The rest of the week I used the BB&7 and the goose kept going down and going down hard. Right now I have a friend using the 3&9 on Duck in NY with a Browning Maxus and Carlson's Cremator SKEET choke...shots out to 50 yards on the fly and they are hitting the ground without needing a follow up. I'm sold on spending the money on the good stuff and taking fewer shots. Better ammo will not improve your skills, but if you are on target (and laser focused) the birds will fall easily. You still need to do your part and practice, and that will never change.

@Allky 6 ай бұрын

I would like to see this redone with maximum performance at longer ranges. For example, a patternmaster duck/goose/extended range choke, Hevi Metal Longer range, and up the range out to 70 yards like these chokes and shots are claiming. Maybe even 3 1/2 loads. They say it's an effective range at 70, so I would be very curious how the wound channels look at that range. I have the above setup on a Beretta A400 xtreme plus. I just need to find a place where I can get out there and try my shots out before the season hits. Great video, very informative. Awesome setup!

@jimmoseley2983 Жыл бұрын

If you can find them, try Migra shotgun shells. BB/2's or 2/4's in 12 or 20 gauge. I think you'll be impressed! Manufactured in South Carolina.

@jellybean9396 Жыл бұрын

Brings me back to three for three mallards with my 20 gauge 2 3/4” when I was a child.many 12 gauge 2 3/4 Remington 1100’s in the marsh also with cheap steel those days nothing fancy

@kennymason5558 Жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I duck hunted but I like 3 1/2 mag Kent number 3 and keep my shots around 35 yards. That gets pellet count up for more pellets on the duck and not too much money

@hounddog4416 Жыл бұрын

I only use boxes shot I hate the steel shot because it isn't dense enough the go into waterfowl

@doneime875 6 ай бұрын

FANTASTIC VIDEO! Man, so many rabbit holes to go down. The energy and velocity rabbit holes are fascinating. If any given pellets are the same size and same weight the faster shot will slow down faster because of air resistance. More speed = more resistance. Less speed = less energy. Faster is not always better. Except that in wing shooting the faster the shot gets to target could be better. And, at the ranges we're operating in, it's not enough to matter. Another common misconception is more pellets = more energy. If a heavier and lighter shot load are both travelling the same velocity, the energy is the same. Energy isn't figured collectively. Each pellet contains X energy, regardless how many pellets are thrown. Yeah, you could maybe argue that if you hit with more pellets, there's more total energy but we have NO idea how many pellets are gonna hit the target. We may hit the target with more pellets of the lighter shot load. Heavier shot load generally = more recoil. Does any of that matter? Not enough difference to make a difference, IMO. All of that to say, you're right. There's always a trade off and you just have to figure out which one makes sense for what you're doing.

@cnvsbk Жыл бұрын

Copper plated bismuth direct from Boss is what I have switched to, and is much cheaper than other bismuth.

@peterparsons7141 Жыл бұрын

Really good effort with your analysis. When the big switch to non-toxic shot came, the world didn’t end like many of the old timers predicted. We adjusted and changed. For those that did a lot of shooting, I couldn’t justify 3$ a shell regardless of anything else. Patterns are still #1 requirement. 25 years later the dust has settled, Ive been (mostly) shooting the same stuff. When shooting steel , speed is everything, and bigger shot. #2 3”, 1550 FPS ducks and geese., #4 3”,1550 early ducks geese, decoys. The price is reasonable, so you shoot enough to get practical experience, and then confident that #2 will fold a greater Canada goose at 40yards.

@NikkaPleeease Жыл бұрын

Speed is NOT everything when shooting steel…

@peterparsons7141 Жыл бұрын

@@NikkaPleeease I shoot alot. I'm interested in anything you can add about shooting steel. Because I shoot alot, I can't afford to shoot an lead equivalent non toxic shot. What I have found is that I shoot a little bigger shot size that will pattern at the distance I have to shoot, and get the fastest shot, and 3" to increase shot count ?

@NikkaPleeease Жыл бұрын

@@peterparsons7141 I just wanted to reiterate that speed ISN’T everything when it comes to steel. Sure it’s quicker, but in my personal opinion, with a lot of the lighter loads & higher fps, your sacrificing pellet ct, accuracy, and potentially longer shots. Sweet spot is 1/4oz; 1350-1500fps. Everybody’s gun is diff though, you know? So what do I know… lol

@EricWest-on9hk Жыл бұрын

It seems like other brands that make a bismuth load have been far more accurate/better patterns down range compared to anything steel. I was pretty set on going with bismuth next season until I saw this video and its making me think again. It's also making me think it would be fun to have money for TSS.

@shaylink Жыл бұрын

I bought a box of TSS from rogers last year at just over $300 ($320 i believe) which puts it at 3.20/ shot. Still spendy. But by far knocks them down dead. If someone is a great shot then TSS may be the right choice. Defiantly less cripples. I also have shot the standard black cloud not sold on it. But I got a case of that and a half a case of the TSS so that is what ill be shooting this season.

@nneverss Жыл бұрын

Kent Fasteel 2.0 is the only thing I'll ever run during waterfowl season, no matter how expensive it keeps getting. It runs SUPER clean and the pattern always seems to be consistent

@rickd3506 Жыл бұрын

Yep! Kent! super X as a second choice, never cared for black cloud,

@dylanmccullick9710 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Video! I have been using Federal blue box for early season goose hunts when we have a lot of shooters, using Hevi Hammer when in North Dakota with drake pintails. What are your thoughts on Boss copper-plated shells?

@shahriarjay2351 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the exciting science behind the hobby. When shooting a duck, it all boiled down to experience and timing with some luck. An old-timer probably wouldn’t know the difference between the cartridges. However, Because he carries limited shells, he barely misses. Also, he is a loaner, so he only brings 6 to 12 decoys but still takes greenheads or other drakes home. 🦆🦆

@mobmeal3010 8 ай бұрын

The reason the TSS looked so much better is because the target & ballistic gel were stationary. The different size / density pellets fly at different speeds. Therefore, on a moving target you will get more of one type of pellet & less pellets overall. You can even see this in the high speed on the gel, there are two separate impacts of pellets from the same shot. With a fast moving duck that time delay will make a difference.

@MarcBoelman Жыл бұрын

Great video. I’d love to see this with pheasant load.

@dhshatzer Жыл бұрын

I shot black cloud for the first time last season. I'm disappointed to see the performance drop off at 40 yards. Maybe I'll save it for the timber this season and use old fashion round shot in the fields. I was thinking of grabbing bismuth for goose hunts, but the performance gain seems marginal. Maybe tugnsten would be justifiable for a Canadian goose hunt, but not a speck hunt. Lots to think about, great video! Would love to see a black cloud vs hex shot vs traditional next!

@jeffreylocke8808 Жыл бұрын

I would shoot TSS and shot only when sure I can see the target focus. And I shoot an over and under shotgun.

@TMFShooting 7 ай бұрын

Great Video 💯 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@run-a-milekyle3835 Жыл бұрын

Speed shok is my go to. Good price to performance.

@elimoore3930 Жыл бұрын

Thankyou for no bias

@dougpatterson9076 Жыл бұрын

Would love a video you do on 00 and 1buck .. choke full ...extra full starting 50 yards out to 80 or 90

@cbrochu22 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never had a problem shooting steel. I’ve tried tungsten(hevi shot blend not tss) and bismuth. I do think it extends your range but I don’t really see a huge improvement worth the price. I like my birds close anyway. If you are shooting 30 yards and In you don’t need anything but steel from a 12 gauge. I see more value in the tungsten and bismuth for smaller calibers so you get my pellets

@attananightshadow Жыл бұрын

I use Score 3" 1 1/4oz 1550fps #2 for pretty much everything inside 40 yards. basically hits like standard 3.5" with way less recoil and cost. If they made #1 shot that's all I'd ever buy. lol

@attananightshadow Жыл бұрын

just steel and i think Score i s only available in Canuckistan.

@dillonpersful783 Жыл бұрын

I love boss Bismuth 12Ga. 3" 3/5 that's my go to load.

@kross1261 Жыл бұрын

Interesting how the bismuth only penetrated about 1/2” more than the cheap speed shock. And the federal you tested is moving 100 fps faster than Boss I believe. Hard to beat the blue box for the $ I think there’s definitely some hype going on with boss.

@fredthompson1279 Жыл бұрын

Great test.

@paulk6077 Жыл бұрын

I bought a case of speed shock #3. Hit ducks at 25 -30 yards causing their feathers to fly off and birds just keep going, or some fall then you have to shoot them again on the water before they dive down . Changed to hevi metal and they fall immobile. Tss kills them dead. I shot black cloud high velocity and my barrel was lined with black suit.