She wanted to express her own frustration at the DX Z-mount lens roadmap

@@JohnDoe-yd7zm 😂🤣

Nah.... she's probably staring into one of Jason's holes as mentioned in the beginning.

Now she's the real winner 😍 here

*laughs in M4/3*

I agree, I intended the same comment.

Agree. It's hard to talk about "the best camera", without mentioning the lens system it's going to be paired with. Of course they took it into account in the final moments, but they should have stated it more clearly early on.

As some one who's tossing up full frame or APS-C mirrorless (from an antique Canon 350D plus lenses) it'd be useful to know a little about the lenses. Perhaps a follow up to allow 1st and 2nd to duke it out with the lenses included?

Came here to comment the exact same thing. I think the cameras are all fine and I personally like the Fujifilm system but the lens variety on the other systems are miles ahead (if it's not about manually operated primes at least).

I agree it's too crowded

@GhostShelter Canon, Sony, and Nikon all have full frame cameras that sit very close to their APSC. Fuji on the other hand only has APCS and medium format, which is sits far above apsc. The result is Canon, Sony, Nikon APSC cameras all got neutered in some way so that they don't eat into the FF market. Whereas Fuji can afford to give you the best of the best (of APSC) without eating their medium format line.

@@zzMigMitzz Full frame is still better. It has sharper fine detail and more definition in dark tones that overall gives images a depth and vivid appearance, that can't be reached by smaller formats. I watched probably all full frame to aps-c comparisons available. Sure, some aps-c cameras come pretty close. With some post-work they sure produce exquisite images, too. But for that wow-effect more sensor is what does it.

In a marketing sense that was a brilliant idea because beginner photographers have their mind all set up on buying APS-C, so that's how Fuji got at the top of the overall camera market shares. But on a rational level this decision makes no sense at all. You can get almost any entry to mid-level full frame camera for the same price as the X-T4. Just like Peter Kroll said before me, the FF will always have the upper hand in IQ, and most of the entry to mid-level FF cameras have (at least) an edge over any APS-C, even X series, in every category. Dropping that much money on a crop sensor makes no sense at all, no matter how good the brand APS-C lenses are.

@@Guizmopeg When did Fuji get to the top of the camera market share? The last marker share analysis has it at like 5% of the total market share, with even Nikon doing better in 2021. Overall Canon is still dominating even with it's completely anemic mirrorless ILC output with around 50% market share, Sony is second and probably the top selling mirrorless manufacturer, and Nikon is still at 15% market share even while plummeting catastrophically for a few years now.

as someone that's been thinking of getting M6ii, I'm curious what made you to switch?

@@busansanai fe. not enough native lenses, handling with external EVF and EF Adapter sucked, i see no future in the m system, Grip was to small for my fingers

@@busansanai dont listen to him... i'm currently using m6 mark ii , trust me the autofocus gives u confidence autofocus than the Fuji, plus m6 mii has higher pixels

Which fuji camera did you get?

@@kapilesh14 X-T4

@@joey_bonzo neither did Nikon believe Fuji stand a chance agsint them. Actually Fuji started off with Nikon manufacturing Finepix series for them... Now Fuji is selling more mirrorless than Nikon ❨well Nikon was just entering the niche market of mirrorless lately❩

I mean, it even beats the a7 iii in most categories if you don’t care about full frame sensors.

@@wilsonpalmpre The X-T4 hasn't been a huge breadwinner for Fuji through the pandemic though. It's actually the X-S10 raking in the cash for them. (And before that, the X-T30, now taken a nose-dive because of the X-S10) Not surprising really considering price sensitivity being up.

@@Vinterloft I think Fuji is not focusing on making money out of bodies. They are eager to sell more lens. I guess Fuji is deeply worried that APS-C market is on the decline.

Fuji is the Japanese Leica.

especially with the 16-50 lens

I have an a7r IV. Just a hobbyist, so I decided to put it up for sale. Wanted to go back to APS-C. Wasn't sure if I wanted to go a6600, or Fuji X-T4. Found both for similar price right now. Heart told me to go with Fuji, but I went with the Sony. Wanted to go back to APS-C for the small, compact size and weight, and the a6600 does that for me. The Fuji, per specs on B&H, is the same size, even slightly larger in width, than the full frame a7r IV. Also weighs about the same, too. Wanted the Fuji, really did. Just wish the T4 was smaller (but still weatherproof, IBIS). Didn't care for the x-s10

I couldn't agree more. I still have my nx500, and I use it more regularly than a lot of newer cameras I own!

can always go with fuji's X-S10 with considerably smaller body but retains the excellent grip, still has a great IBIS too.

Ehh close enough. 3rd in AF and 2nd in battery. Rest all top.

@@xmlthegreat yeah, i miss sony autofocuss, im considering buying sony for my video work

Well aren’t you just brilliant 🥱

Not surprising, even the X-S10 beats all those other cameras for $200 less than the Sony, Fuji just has APS-C on lock.

@@Vinterloft does x-s10 has better autofocus then xt3? Cuz my previous sony a6000 had better autofocus algoritms then my fuji xt3

LMAO XD

true, probably the main reason I still have a6600 even thought transitioned to full frame

Right!! My A7iii literally last for weeks. Like we're talking 1500+ shots per battery

I think the reason they used the X-T4 since they are comparing the best APS-C cameras from each manufacturer so the X-S10 wouldnt make the cut even if it does match closer in price point to the others

@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI That makes sense because I was feeling the same as the OP.

Exactly! The guy is comparing Honda’s to a Ferrari.

This video wasn’t about price. They compared features and X-T4 has everything that X-S10, but more. That’s why X-S10 isn’t here

Trash comparition. Xt4 cost twice the price of z50

The best cult to be apart of IMO

What are you talking about? I recently purchased XT4, I am not aware of the cult. Please enlighten me.

@@shahid28285 We do not talk about the cult. We just keep a lookout for people when they say "OMG I love your photos, the colours are amazing". At which point you start the sermon, whisper *Fuji is eternaaaaaaaaaa* and they'll become one of us too.

@@Makaveli6103 Long live Classic Chrome. Praise be

@@shahid28285 Explaination is futile my brother. Praise Classic Chrome

Would you feel confident using the m6mk2 for a paid shoot? Are the stills good enough in your opinion?

Same here. I have the X-T3 and it always has either a battery grip or a Smallrig L-bracket on just for the reason of adding extra to hold onto. I love using the camera but without the extra perch, holding it for long periods, especially with bigger glass, to be pretty uncomfortable. Waiting for an X-H2 for that reason. Hopefully it's good.

Try the X-S10 and perhaps an L-bracket for the pinky.

Yep -I´m an X-T3 owner and I really miss the ergo of my old Nikon. If I were in the market for a new camera - it would probably be an Z5 or Z6II.

The vertical grip should be considered mandatory for all top-end Fujifilm cameras. With one it's the most comfortable camera ever IMO. And it has the headphone jack anyway.

@@Vinterloft The problem with that is that it defeast the purpose of a compact APS-C camera. I think they got it right with the XS10

Yeah, the XS-10 would still beat every camera in this comparison at a lower cost.

In my shithole country they still ask €800 for a completely run down X-T2. Can't imagine what the second hand price for an X-T3 is

You still need APS-C lenses.

I wake up every morning hoping for a NIKON announcement. Z50 would be my companion if that didn't have a flip-down screen. Nikon Z70 with IBIS and the fully articulated screen is my dream camera as a non-professional who loves to click. Nikon is the best in terms of color science and ergonomics. I would prefer the small ef-m lenses over those Z lenses though. If Nikon does not bring an APS-C that looks like Canon M50 but higher specs, then I will have to get a Canon M6 Mark II. Yeah....wishful thinking..... Let's hope Nikon hears us out. ...

@@pvsamorgan9803 The M50 has been very popular with vloggers, regardless of which brand of camera they use for stills, and before that the 100D, the lightest DSLR. Like all APS-C DSLRs from Nikon and Canon, there's a lack of good APS-C lenses, but probably there's enough for its intended users, and it works pretty well with EF lenses and adaptor.

z70? Very unlikely ...

@@landyshserebristyy2493 I figured so.... That’s why I went ahead and purchased Canon M6 Mk II already. 😎

Agree-- Big Grin! Chris is approaching the incredibly funny comedy of Camera Conspiracies!

I have to admit I didn't immediately get it when he mentioned the Ford... I was like "Wait so maybe he means like an array of batteries based on that z-type structure?". Only made it funnier in the end :p

buy fuji xt3 now is under 1000buck is the same as xt4 but without ibis

@@r1thy Don't forget the X-S10, it's 1000$, has the same 26mp sensor and retain IBIS but it has no 10bit video and the smaller battery (like the XT3). The X-S10 alone kill all the other APSC camera in that 1000$ price range.

Got a used Fuji xt3 which still has the newest sensor for $700 so my wallet disagrees. But yes buying all brand new gear fujifilm only saves you about 20% in both price and weight on your lenses.

I agree

@@JetBen555 X-S10 does have 10-bit output over HDMI. It's a crazy camera, designed to slit Sony's throat ear to ear. I'd be surprised if in 5 years anyone but Fuji are still trying to beat Fuji. None of them can resist trying to upsell you to full frame, Fuji just wants to dominate APS-C.

not wind noise, background city noise

@SF6 Crop factor for wildlife is a huge reason.

@@B3D_FPV Not so much with high resolution cameras, starting with Canon's 5Ds cameras. I can crop 50 megapixels down to a similar number of pixels of the 70D, D500 etc to get the same results.

@@oneeyedphotographer Yeah, but with like 5fps. D850 9fps with grip. Up till this point with stacked sensors like the A1 & Z9, high res & fps was not really possible. So smaller formats had a distinct advantage. It is the single reason for which I use a M43 cam sometimes. It has higher pixel density than any sensor other than medium format right now.

Z50 my first choice

Yeah, lenses > cameras and especially for size-doesn't-matter pro glass, adapting might be a good way to sweat the sunk cost. Combines great with smaller native glass, to pack two bags for light and portable vs. heavy but high quality. Hope they find a way (and the will) to make more compact APS-C lenses somehow with that ridiculously huge (for APS-C) mount, though Nikon has a terrible track record at producing native APS-C glass.

Big DSLR lenses+ large FTZ Adapter mounted on a small DSLM APS_c is not very attractiv for most people.

@@muttishelfer9122 yes

@@muttishelfer9122 yes, however the Z50 having a large grip, it's probably the better suited mirrorless APSC body to do that. My X-T1 with the same kind of setup often proves a bit uncomfortable

@@matthieuzglurg6015 The Z50 actually feels very nice larger glass. Surprisingly, in my hands the Z50 actually is a bit easier to hold than my Z6.

Yeah, I don't see a newer small-body APC-C than the a6600, which came out in August 2019, and today is November 26, 2001. I have the same question. (And I don't count the ZV-E10 - it's for vloggers, which is great, but it's not an improvement to the a6600. Maybe they'll show an a6700 at CES in a month or two (although I don't know if Sony ever introduces new cameras at CES.) Let's hope so!

meh. kind of pretentious to be referring to “recipes.” i hate that word as a fujifilm enthusiast. besides… make your own “recipe.” people too often want to be lazy and copy someone’s efforts and get instant gratification. i’ve been making my own film sims and they come out great. zero influence from the “community.” otherwise one doesn’t learn.

@@GrandHuevotes true true but that's the term people use. And like it or not the 'recipe' community is rather large

Get the s5 or the a7iii, there's a reason canon and nikon are pushing FF.

S5 is full frame which is a big deal, you can check cameradecision site for side-by-side spec comparison

Only wrong price, $1700 X-T4 (APS-C) far more expensive than $999 Canon RP (FF).

@@myocean3228 I don’t think that canon has 4k at 60fps, or slow mo at 240fps….or the profiles that Fuji has….plus it’s ugly af 😂

For some the Pentax K-3 III is the better APS-C camera. They only looked at mirrorless models here, for some reason.

@@coolcat23 the title says “best aps-c mirrorless cameras” so I guess that’s the reason

@@johnkarakatsianis7281 I know what the title says, but a) DPReview could have included all flagship APS-C cameras, and b) more importantly, you just wrote "the king of aps-c cameras." That's what I was referring to.

I had A7iii now I have XT4

@@robmcd That's absolutely fine. You probably prefer the APS-C format. I personally need full frame, cause i shoot sports in badly lit gyms and i need better high iso performance. Fuji doesn't have full frame line up. Sony has both. I can use my FF glass on my crop body and vice versa. Sony has more ups than downs.

@@TorresinhoLFC I use my R5 for that shooting environment shooting jpeg. I can get super clean images at 25,000 ISO and my 2.8 70-200 is 1kg

nice upgrade path, mine came out a bit longer a6000>a6300>a6400>a6600>a7iii>a7S3

@@mirrorlessny I’m confident you will never need to upgrade that camera. As an R5 user I’ll admit the A7S3 is the “better” camera. I just got sick of Sony’s lack of weathersealing and colours. But these new cine profiles from Sony are truly amazing.

Nikon has only TWO apsc lenses. Z full frame lenses are great, so why not buy the Z5 instead? I don't know about the pricing in your country but here the prices here is roughly NT$23800 vs NT$30000. The Z5 also has IBIS and focus bracketing and uses EN-EL15. If there were no Z5, the Z50 might be worth a look.

@@shang-hsienyang1284 Nikon Z5 is a professional class camera. No built in flash, has dual card slot, better video codecs, etc. I feel to compare Z50 to a6600 and xt4 is not fair. For a beginner Canon M50 or Nikon Z50 maybe more suitable but for a semi professional looking for apsc camera maybe we'll served with a6600, xt4.

@@krishnag1981 XT4 is priced $47000 here, the same price range as the a7iii, and far more expensive than both the Z5 and Z50. Comparing it with the Z50 is unfair.

Sony has three current adapters to use their A-mount DSLR lenses. Two of those adapters will even support "screwdriver" auto-focus era lenses, which neither Canon nor Nikon fully support (you can use the lens and will have auto-exposure, but no auto-focus). To that extent, they have "better" adapters than Canon or Nikon, but that is only "on paper". I would like to see comparisons of auto-focus performance.

I’m going with the m6 Mark II. After some time with the Sony a7 I still kook back at pictures of my old Canon 70D and I just like their look a lot more. Decided to go smaller for travel and the m6 Mark II plus the 11-22 and 32 1.4 is all I need

++ I dont belive what I've heard. Canon m6 mii matrix is worse than z50! ISO perfomance is about 1-1.5 stops lower, 32 MPx is too large files. Its not a plus!

The fuji and Nikon APSC cameras are "Sonys in Disguise" in the sense that they use Sony sensors. The most significant differentiators are price - and more importantly - lens selection as otherwise you are gonna get pretty much the exact same picture quality. The Sony and the Fuji have a much better selection of 1st and 3rd party lens options for their mount systems. The Nikon is pretty terrible by comparison - virtually none of the big lens manufacturers have bothered to support the Z mount, with barely a handful manual lenses from "low end" Chinese brands being available. This is a major dealbreaker. For the APSC format, across all manufacturers, there are major gaps in all 1st party lens options that are filled by 3rd party lens - Sigma in particular does a great job for completing the prime lens lineup.

@@JimIBobIJones Your first paragraph is false - it’s a common misconception, it’s actually not a Sony sensor - it’s only manufactured by Sony, the design and engineering of the sensor is done by the companies who have production(manufacturing) contracts with Sony, aka. Nikon, Panasonic, Fuji, DJI and others… Sony only gets the patented blueprints under a strict contract and manufactures their sensors for them at a cheaper cost. Most camera manufacturers have a contract with Sony because Sony has the biggest factory (production) chains out of any other manufacturer in the business, as well as the largest amount of CNC machines for the job - all meaning faster and larger production at a lower cost. And it’s not just camera manufacturers who do this, everyone does this - for example, one of the newer diesel engines in the newer Mercedes A and E class, was manufactured by Renault and VW. Same with BMW, Peugeot, entire VW group and others. Another example; Apples “Made in California” products actually manufacture over 60% of their parts and hardware in Taiwans, Chinas and Thailands factories. Then, another example, Nvidia and AMD both use the exact same factory in China for production of some of their GPU parts. So on and so forth… You can do the same. You can engineer and design an entire house and then have someone else build it for you - and you can do that with anything, the house was just an example. Outsourcing is way more common than you think and allows businesses/manufacturers to drastically lower their production costs.

@@nogerboher5266 it's not like fuji have a proprietary technology though. It's not a case of "pure play" production as you are suggesting but own branding.

It should, it's the only camera unambiguously for professional photographers.

Yeah dude for about double the price of the Z50, lmao.

Also in price lol

Fujifilm is winning both the APSC and medium format game.

@@jazzamsterdam5317 Who cares about the prices. We are talking about "best in the format". If you go up in format you need a Sony 7 mk3 to compete with the Xt4, and that's going to be more expensive (plus lenses).

To be clear they make cameras for money, but their thinking is, to optimise the feature set and design of cameras to what customers are asking for.

@@xmlthegreat Yes. As I said.

@Alf Maggadan R&D and major body mods cost money. And I agree, which is why I got the Z50. It was 1099 with two lenses. Light kit for travel, capable, and they leaked two little primes. But yes, Fuji is listening, which is why they have a loyal following.

I hate people like her, they always need to LOOK

Please give her a break. See the way she was hunching forward. She has trouble seeing. Toktikkers take youth and eyesight for granted

@@johnnosacka9556 1: Its cold and she's in a hurry to get somewhere 2: She isn't 95 years old 3: Your back has nothing to do with your eyesight 4: Where are the TikTok stars??? or are you incapable of understanding sarcasm

He got photo/video bombed for sure hahahh

@@JetBen555 don't look at her then.

Yes jonnchooi, although I suppose it happens because it is a mirrorless one, and it does not heat up being unbearable for the hands, not even after a long time recording in 4K (more than half an hour). On the other hand, I can't compare it with other mirrorless ones since before I only used reflex.

@@plasticonegro hey thank you for your reply. It's always good to hear from a direct user. And glad that the overheating is not a major issue. I've been contemplating to switch from GH5 to the XT-4. As of now, I guess I'll just hold on!

@@Jaymino_ you're welcome. And just in case, you can see in this video I share a test about overheating on X-T4, after whatching it I did the same and had the same result. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZxxgKeAzrvap4k.html

This XT-3 owner wonders the same.

As an owner of and a6600, an XT3, and an XT4, I'd put the XT3 just below the a6600. This is for two reasons, the lack of Ibis and the weaker battery life.

Dynamic range is better on the APS-C than the full frame Canon? Nice

@@AA-pi5ui only on the sensor they used on the EOS RP, it's their cheapest full frame sensor while the apsc sensor on the XS10 is their best... quality over quantity

Fujifilm X-E4 with a 27 f2.8, in terms of stuff that is recent. Smallest, is the Pentax Q series. But the last Q body came out in 2014.

@@xmlthegreat there's also canon eos mX00 with 22mmf2 pancake

Yeah, depending on focal length preference it's gonna be either Fuji of Canon M. I wonder why they can't "re-imagine" each other's lens designs to provide a little bit of choice in the pancake form factor. 40mm equivalent is a beautiful normal focal length but 35mm equivalent is way more versatile in tighter situations.

fuji xe4? or some olympus epl models if you like mft.

It’ll be the R7, which will technically replace the 7D line.

Z50 is a better option