BEST BUDGET CUSTOM KEYBOARD OF 2023... (SO FAR)

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Lewis Toh

Lewis Toh

Күн бұрын

Taking a look at the TKD Cycle 7! Personal favorite KB of 2023...
TKD Cycle 7:
Singapore - ilumkb.com/products/tkd-cycle...
US - clickclack.io/products/groupb...
Vertex V1 Switches:
Singapore - ilumkb.com/products/vertex-v-...
US - clickclack.io/pages/vertex-v-...
Krytox & Accessories: www.thockking.com/?ref=Lewis
Time Stamps:
00:00 Unboxing
00:36 What's Included?
01:20 Build Time
02:11 Switches
02:40 PCB-plugs
03:19 Mounting
03:51 Case Reveal
04:29 EZ-Assemble Case
04:49 Finish Build
05:16 Plate Foam (Typing Test)
05:27 Plate & Case Foam (Typing Test)
05:38 ALL Foam (Typing Test)
05:49 Comparison (Typing Test)
6:06 Outro
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@ToastyRR
@ToastyRR 11 ай бұрын
IMAGINE GETTING PINNED 😳😳
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
why imagine
@ToastyRR
@ToastyRR 11 ай бұрын
Idk Tbh
@esportrelax
@esportrelax 10 ай бұрын
i know imagine
@arieljimenez6785
@arieljimenez6785 11 ай бұрын
Great review and awesome keyboard. Now that is definitely something new! That top frame removal is just so damn good and I hope other keyboard manufacturers would use it as well.
@jonathanjl
@jonathanjl 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the showcase, i just ordered mine. Can't wait to build it!!
@blondie2775
@blondie2775 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review! I'm new to the keyboard community and I find your videos very helpful! 😊
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks!
@bk8pa323
@bk8pa323 11 ай бұрын
Hi Lewis I've just come across your channel while researching on keyboards to resolve my wrist and arm pain issues. Your content is fun, concise yet very and informational. Best of all, a familiar fellow Singaporean accent ah! Kudos and keep it up bro!
@ChillRides-ug4wt
@ChillRides-ug4wt 11 ай бұрын
Yo Lewis! This board and keycaps looks solid and cool! It sounds so good. Deep sound and thocky too. The feature where the top easily comes off is awesome. Makes it easy to mod. Nice video content bro
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks man
@SASHIHARAWONG
@SASHIHARAWONG 11 ай бұрын
Really helpful, thanks!!
@deskofden
@deskofden 11 ай бұрын
Great review & test! I'm tempted for sure!
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks
@GoldenTengu
@GoldenTengu 11 ай бұрын
Whooeww thanks for featuring this greatness!
@DeadCow04
@DeadCow04 11 ай бұрын
Yooooo despite you uploading more I actually don’t think the video quality have dropped, keep up the great work! I also love that just by changing the amount of foam, it goes from clack to thock
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks man!
@mextrinc
@mextrinc 11 ай бұрын
really like the camera mic, thanks for doing that.
@user-rz4kl4fv3d
@user-rz4kl4fv3d 11 ай бұрын
Sound is nice! Love they dropped f row, only thing missing is a knob!
@random-sd7gt
@random-sd7gt 11 ай бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for the best keyboards to mod for beginners and for thocc
@him030397
@him030397 10 ай бұрын
Can I ask if you use Slog color grading for this type of videos or no color grading at all? Because I've been thinking of sharing a keyboard production video myself recently. Thank you🙏🏻
@mr.guillotine3766
@mr.guillotine3766 11 ай бұрын
I'm poor, so this is still out of my budget, but compared to when I first started glancing at custom keyboards a couple of years ago, this is a hell of a deal. It's amazing what some of these companies are putting out for the price these days. You can get so much more for your money lately and it's awesome!
@thatvatooverthere8188
@thatvatooverthere8188 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting this board since I first saw it last week. It looks sooo good
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
It really is!
@giff74
@giff74 11 ай бұрын
That was a really great review! I like what they are doing here, but I'm over pre-order buys.
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
Understandable!
@ixtimmy4450
@ixtimmy4450 11 ай бұрын
Sounds nice👏
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
yes sirr
@infinikeys
@infinikeys 10 ай бұрын
Hey Lewis, are you using black pvd wieght? It looks nice.
@xonlyJ
@xonlyJ 11 ай бұрын
just ordered this as my first CUSTOM KEYBOARD SO EXCITED!!!!
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
LETS GOOO
@raythekid_
@raythekid_ Ай бұрын
how’d you like it?
@NeonLine1982
@NeonLine1982 11 ай бұрын
The build with only the plate foam sounds the best to me. Will pick one up if they do a full tkl option. I need those function row.
@ProtomanZ
@ProtomanZ 11 ай бұрын
That might be the next project from TKD.
@tngy6380
@tngy6380 11 ай бұрын
Same here. The function row is also a dealbreaker for me now. Hope for the future build
@nadtz
@nadtz 11 ай бұрын
I ended up getting a monsgeek M3 as I wanted something I wouldn't have to wait months for. Waiting on switches right now and it should be built in a few days but if these guys made a full TKL as nice as this I can definitely see wanting one. Like you I need those F keys.
@amphem8200
@amphem8200 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried the gk75 I just got it and it has some of the smoothest switches out of box and the stabs are super nice with no clack. Its only $60 and already feels better than my $200 custom keyboard.
@deorlol_
@deorlol_ 11 ай бұрын
hey so i found a really good ~$100 pre built board id recommend trying. its a yunzii board and its really nice. its hotswap and comes with the switches pre lubed. its not hollow and has some nice dampening. i find it pretty decent for the price.
@KeebClack
@KeebClack 11 ай бұрын
Great video 👍
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks!
@kafaae
@kafaae 11 ай бұрын
another budget board lets gooo
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
yeeee
@peterkilian9100
@peterkilian9100 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh Will you ever do a mid range build in the future cuz your last one was like 11 years ago
@peterkilian9100
@peterkilian9100 11 ай бұрын
And no one else does mid range keyboard videos apparently
@noidsuper
@noidsuper 11 ай бұрын
“Budget” This thing punches *way* above its price bracket. Beating out a lot of boards in the $300 price range and some in the $400. The price to performance ratio is absolutely unprecedented
@peterkilian9100
@peterkilian9100 11 ай бұрын
@@noidsuper it’s a budget board, a good one. But it will never beat out the best value 400 builds…
@jacobbell6949
@jacobbell6949 11 ай бұрын
i have never been in a groupbuy before and this could easily be my first good lord
@OreoMcFluffy
@OreoMcFluffy 11 ай бұрын
I just made a purchase for the qk100 and now I’m going to buy this too. The value proposition of these keyboards are just insane
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
definitely very different layout to a 100
@emilioguerid11
@emilioguerid11 11 ай бұрын
thinking of going the exact same route
@thehobbyist435
@thehobbyist435 10 ай бұрын
hello I just wanted to ask if how is the color of the void elf in comparison to the images from the manufacturer themselves
@bean3243
@bean3243 11 ай бұрын
The shipping is 40 bucks to the US east coast, the total for a simple hotswap build is coming up to $200. Decent price but still wouldn't consider it budget.
@Mulroyp07
@Mulroyp07 11 ай бұрын
It’s “budget” for custom boards but yeah it is still expensive for most people
@ghostjokster5852
@ghostjokster5852 3 ай бұрын
This hobby is a luxury hobby, the term budget in context makes sense.
@prestonvarner611
@prestonvarner611 11 ай бұрын
for stabs do you just inject grease in them? is that it?
@gamingsoups
@gamingsoups 11 ай бұрын
theres a keyboard called the neo frl tkl thats gonna eventually come out and i could not be more excited for that either, hope you check it out as well!
@jammies701
@jammies701 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid mate
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanks mate
@radiga925
@radiga925 5 ай бұрын
Can you share a link or name to the exact same keycap set
@mr6291
@mr6291 11 ай бұрын
Also seems to sound amazing foamless on alu plate. Ordered mine with alu plate and will use some long pole nylon switches. Curious to see how it would sound on PC plate without foams.
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
didnt get a alu plate to try :,)
@randyy1354
@randyy1354 11 ай бұрын
Could you try the monsgeek M1 wireless version? The pre-order started on Taobao😊.
@Xxyion86
@Xxyion86 11 ай бұрын
I'm excited for this keyboard. I bought 3 for a build series that ive been planning for a while.
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
wowwww
@Xxyion86
@Xxyion86 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh it'll be on my keyboard channel once i receive these
@danielturunen7237
@danielturunen7237 11 ай бұрын
It's a very nice keyboard but how the heck would you work without the F1-F12 keys? How would you access the BIOS if you need to fix something (for most OS:s it's the DEL key but for some it can be F5 or F8 or F11, if I remember correctly) and many softwares use the F keys for shortcuts and mandatory functions. I can live without the NUM pad but you gotta have the F keys (well, maybe not necessary if you just do typing in general but for coding and more specific tasks you need the F keys). Other than the missing keys it looks and sounds very nice! 😊
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
Just hold Fn + Num row to access the function row. As for accessing to the bios, you can literally hold down Delete instead
@stefanmilinkovic6433
@stefanmilinkovic6433 11 ай бұрын
Trying to decide the pcb portion. It’ll be my first keyboard, what’s hot swap ? And what are the other options, what’s the best one to get?
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
Hotswap lets you remove and replace switches without the need of soldering. I would suggest for you to get hotswap as it would be your first custom, which also could be handy when you have new switches to try out. As for the wireless and wired, it's all up to your preferences and needs.
@Mr.C0ffee
@Mr.C0ffee 8 ай бұрын
Does it have via compatibility?
@curlypig
@curlypig 11 ай бұрын
@iVilliain
@iVilliain 11 ай бұрын
Please tell me this is the void elf color?! I was hoping it would be somewhat purple, but it looks blueish on my monitor, which is kind of perfect, becuase I'm going to throw GMK Blruple on to it!
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
this is void elf! haha
@Plastic_bitz
@Plastic_bitz 11 ай бұрын
very nice vid
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
thanksss
@cadavergirl8596
@cadavergirl8596 11 ай бұрын
What colour is that one? Is that the Void Elf colour? It looks a LOT darker in the shop images. But there are no other purple colour other than the Lavender so I guess it must be? Anyways, cool board and nice vid as always dude.
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
yes its void elf!
@radiga925
@radiga925 5 ай бұрын
whats the name of this keycap set
@GamerYadhu03
@GamerYadhu03 11 ай бұрын
yo finally
@IVVI_FN
@IVVI_FN 11 ай бұрын
Basicly the future of keyboards and nice vid love it keep it up
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
heck yes
@jgould30
@jgould30 11 ай бұрын
Doubtful. There is nothing in this that hasn't already been done tbh. The latching mechanism has been done in multiple other keyboards and done better looking IMO (JRIS75 first to mind). What you will find is that this latching mechanism ends up making the top and bottom of the case look a certain way from the side profile (top overhangs the bottom). Or at least every one that uses it I've seen looks that way and I think that's due to how it works and tolerances. So, you won't see this in a lot of other case designs that are sleeker and more elegant looking. Beyond that the different mounting mechanisms are common in most group buy boards. The layout is, IMO, not popular (luckily click clack has said they should be releasing this similar design in other layouts in the future). The other problem is once again a group buy board is unable to offer a wireless PCB with QMK/VIA support even though it's CLEARLY possible. It's definitely a good value, at least before shipping, but I think it's being overblown how great this is. Feels like the same thing that happens with a keyboard ever 3 months.
@ElNath645
@ElNath645 11 ай бұрын
"Hotswap top frame". Now that has a nice ring to it!
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
yes
@incensedmars873
@incensedmars873 11 ай бұрын
i will never get how 100+ is considered budget on this hobby
@wrathkeebs
@wrathkeebs 11 ай бұрын
Hi lewis i hope u can get intouch with another nice budget keyboard the Infi75 epomaker
@aweome121
@aweome121 11 ай бұрын
don't want to be too much of a buzzkill but if ur in the US it is also $50 shipping so add $50 to the cost of whatever configuration you want
@KillWija
@KillWija 11 ай бұрын
What some good keycap colors for a keyboard case that’s red?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
red samurai?
@KillWija
@KillWija 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh what you think about "Wukong Keycap Set" i got the red samurai in my cart
@PhAlovechallenge
@PhAlovechallenge 11 ай бұрын
what you can recommend about cheapest split keyboard we can buy that's good having 2 different mics
@carlo388
@carlo388 11 ай бұрын
I can recommend you what I'm using - Lily58 Pro. or you can look for something like Boardsource Lulu, Sofle v2 or if you want a more compact split, go for Corne.
@drisss3317
@drisss3317 11 ай бұрын
im deciding between the TKD Cycle7 and the Choice65. They're both on GB now and they both have their ups and downs
@skygardenrikka9910
@skygardenrikka9910 10 ай бұрын
If u re a no foam fan then choose Cycle7. And if u like foams, u can go with Choice65
@Speedygi81
@Speedygi81 2 ай бұрын
wow what an innovative product from a bunch of companies. I don't think you can find this much value from a keyboard company.
@1stkaiser
@1stkaiser 11 ай бұрын
i’ll build the Cycle7 for a friend soon!!
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
its amazing
@umric
@umric 11 ай бұрын
sick! but i can’t bring myself to do a group buy even if it looks and sounds so good 😕
@serenity3157
@serenity3157 11 ай бұрын
Same
@Jdjdjrb
@Jdjdjrb 11 ай бұрын
Are these gmk laser keycaps or Akko neons?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
gmk laser
@joewipat5452
@joewipat5452 11 ай бұрын
Looks really good. Shame you can't get it in the UK without emptying your bank account with shipping prices.
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
Prototypist is literally the UK vendor
@hucklejoko4838
@hucklejoko4838 11 ай бұрын
Ayo, i hope that case assembly process will make its way to other boards
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
i agree
@Cam-i
@Cam-i 11 ай бұрын
I don’t personally see how this beats out the Qk75, yes that top clamp is cool but if you’re going to take the keycaps off anyway to switch them what is 5 screws difference to that
@Pr0noTrigger
@Pr0noTrigger 11 ай бұрын
I love my QK75 and like having a f row, but this looks way more unique.
@Cam-i
@Cam-i 11 ай бұрын
@@Pr0noTrigger What do you think is unique about it if I may ask, this board also uses the same mounting system as the qk75 but with a slight difference
@Pr0noTrigger
@Pr0noTrigger 11 ай бұрын
@@Cam-i I like that it's a TKL with no F row. Makes it look super clean though you lose functionality, literally. I also like the ball thing that lets you remove the top case easily. The finishes are nice (I'd get stone), the RGB above the arrow keys is a nice touch, and it sounds good. WIth an attractive price point, this would be a no brainer for me had I not already gotten the QK75.
@kanotki
@kanotki 11 ай бұрын
The future of the budget keyboard begins today I hope we see more and more companys make cheaper keyboard in the future + When are you going to stream or you quit streaming building keyboard
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
i have no idea
@kanotki
@kanotki 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh burn out ?
@A10870xd
@A10870xd 11 ай бұрын
What keycaps are you using?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
gmk laser
@ebubekir6624
@ebubekir6624 11 ай бұрын
Loved this keyboard at first sight but the German Group buy is just too expensive :(
@milkydewymelon
@milkydewymelon 11 ай бұрын
Bro, is your unit mirror, gunmetal or black pvd?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
black pvd!
@milkydewymelon
@milkydewymelon 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the respond! Subscribed! 😊
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
all good, thanks my guy
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus 11 ай бұрын
Rather than F-Rowless, I'd prefer navless (60% + F-Row, aka 70%).
@horlogefondu
@horlogefondu 11 ай бұрын
I try to chose between cycle 7 and mkc75 any one can help me
@2Nub4U
@2Nub4U 11 ай бұрын
still would've liked a no-foam sound comparison.
@uriikid
@uriikid 11 ай бұрын
wich are theese keycaps?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
gmk laser
@dovy6666
@dovy6666 11 ай бұрын
Anyone have info for the gb vendor runner in indonesia?
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
Kukey Studio is the vendor for Indonesia
@wellackchyually
@wellackchyually 11 ай бұрын
im coppin
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
frfr
@wellackchyually
@wellackchyually 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh I bought it lol got a void elf wkl with a spectrum weight, cant wait lol
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
noicee
@alexchiku
@alexchiku 10 ай бұрын
will you ever include no-foam in the sound tests? this would appeal to others watching, especially clack enthusiasts, I highly request no-foam sound tests at least
@Instinct0425
@Instinct0425 10 ай бұрын
this for sure. i am not a huge fan of foam as i feel it just sucks all of the character out of the board and you can achieve that foam sound with any board
@frankhu8692
@frankhu8692 11 ай бұрын
just baught my luminakey75 lol, fortunatly this board is not 75%, it doesn't have function keys I want, if it had them I would prob sawp lumina for this
@lunarctic7712
@lunarctic7712 11 ай бұрын
does anyone now from which vendor i can get this from if im in hong Kong
@lunarctic7712
@lunarctic7712 11 ай бұрын
anyone know*
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
iLumKB covers most of the Asia region, try them!
@pkl94lin5
@pkl94lin5 11 ай бұрын
WWhat about the Jris65 r2
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
havent tried
@pkl94lin5
@pkl94lin5 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh im still waiting for the gb to start shipping? maybe u could get on in the aftermarket, i promise its very good
@Cadzy
@Cadzy 11 ай бұрын
It's a Group Buy 😭 Im Broke Until Xmas if i had ths cash this would be my dream keyboard as i love tkls without the f row
@Randomlosername
@Randomlosername 11 ай бұрын
Sad that I seemed to jump into the hobby right around its TKL era 😂 I just have zero use for this form factor.
@simozonelayer
@simozonelayer 11 ай бұрын
That's the layout I want.
@generalkaiproductions8680
@generalkaiproductions8680 11 ай бұрын
it sounds good but i hate the fact it doesnt have the function keys so like 9 out of 10
@CryoftheProphet
@CryoftheProphet 10 ай бұрын
yay, now everyone will have the same keyboard lol
@Coaster_enthusiast69
@Coaster_enthusiast69 10 ай бұрын
Hot swap top frame
@Othniel_
@Othniel_ 11 ай бұрын
when i saw the thumbnail i thought the cycle7 meant your case is recycled lol reply to me plz lewiz
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
LOL hi
@Othniel_
@Othniel_ 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh NO WAY YOU REPLIED WHAT
@Qahtanite
@Qahtanite 11 ай бұрын
Wait WHAT, why did nobody tell me about this keyboard!!
@juan25amarillo
@juan25amarillo 11 ай бұрын
Mode envoy is wayyy better imo lol
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
this is still p good
@juan25amarillo
@juan25amarillo 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh yeah it’s still good and the no screws system is pretty cool too.
@erickhor7546
@erickhor7546 11 ай бұрын
FEKER IK65
@vexonix3784
@vexonix3784 11 ай бұрын
Bro ngl your channel with this video quality deserve to get more subscribers than this
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@nyhom_
@nyhom_ 9 ай бұрын
2:35 WTF THERES A BUG CRAWLING ON YOUR ENTER SWITCH NAHHHHHHHH
@Aijames
@Aijames 6 ай бұрын
its not really out so can we say of 2023?
@Gravoli
@Gravoli 11 ай бұрын
cap the odin 75 is the best
@final3119
@final3119 11 ай бұрын
This or Monsgeek?
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
this…
@final3119
@final3119 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh you replied too slow. I already ordered the monsgeek lmao
@santey2210
@santey2210 11 ай бұрын
410th view lololol btw I watches since 3 years ago ❤
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
noice
@poopybut64
@poopybut64 11 ай бұрын
Yo
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
yuh
@ricecakes7822
@ricecakes7822 11 ай бұрын
lewi toh
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
wot
@ricecakes7822
@ricecakes7822 11 ай бұрын
@@LewisToh you are teh best!
@placeholder3863
@placeholder3863 10 ай бұрын
im tired of people not doing a no foam sound test anyway this keyboard sets no standards because the new standard would be impossible to reach I would not bat an eye if this were double or triple the price
@Pawpatrol9111
@Pawpatrol9111 3 ай бұрын
ni hao
@worst6digit675
@worst6digit675 11 ай бұрын
Bro can I buy this from u LOL
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
maybe not now… but aft the keyboard launches, sure
@earlwarren2079
@earlwarren2079 10 ай бұрын
Another budget board that will never be in stock for everyone : 😔
@MrCrackowacko
@MrCrackowacko 11 ай бұрын
Would like to get pinned too!
@HoodSwami
@HoodSwami 11 ай бұрын
How about no foam 🥲
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 11 ай бұрын
There are plenty of other creators who did no foam builds. But they all said it's a little quite. So stiffer plate like Alu would help a lot when doing a no foam build
@SteakOnRice
@SteakOnRice 11 ай бұрын
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY💸💸💸💸
@sclyser
@sclyser 11 ай бұрын
hi early
@LewisToh
@LewisToh 11 ай бұрын
hi early
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