Best budget Mac in 2020?

Best budget Mac in 2020? | 2009 Mac Pro

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Is the 2009 4,1/5,1 MacPro still worth it for video editors in 2020. Yes, I am still using a 2009 Mac Pro. Here is why.
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2009 4,1 Mac Pro- I found it on Craigslist...
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@newt6639 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful production! Well done and much appreciated.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Clemont213 3 жыл бұрын

Underrated channel

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ChrisBrideauMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video man.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@travisraab 3 жыл бұрын

I love this project. It might be perfect for my barn recording studio.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I recommend joining the MacPro upgrade group on Facebook before you start. There is a ton of information there with people with similar needs as you

@grafisktinitiativ446 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Keep it up!

@BenSchubert 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@RonaldCid 3 жыл бұрын

Ben, I just recently got into the 2012 Mac Pro (The last Cheese grater) and wanted to advance and soup-up the old girl to the max! I added in two drives into the DVD bay (Which I never use) and got into Opencore as a solution for updates. Since getting into Opencore I have created a Facebook page for OC on the Mac Pro, and we are able to update to both Catalina and Big Sur. This include video hardware acceleration....this could be a potential solution for you and your visitors. Thanks for the great video. I love my new/old cMP! Thanks RC

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I think I’m already in that group. I’ve been planning to do it for the last 6 months at least. It have been too busy. I’m definitely going to do a video when I get around to it

@CorbinElliott 4 жыл бұрын

Great walk through on the benefits of these amazing under rated machines. Kind of wished we had all just stayed quiet about them cause the prices on the used market is skyrocketing. With that said. Was able to still score a 2010 Dual 6 core for $150 USD. Built it up with NVMe drive 2 M.2 SATA SSD and a couple of Raid 1's in the expansion bays. Will be tearing it all down soon for an OpenCore guide.

@BenSchubert 4 жыл бұрын

Haha. Oh well. $150 USD is a pretty solid deal. I still hear of them going to the junk yard so I think having some value will keep more out of the trash. Im about to add NVMEs to my system. And looking forward to the gains

@emanuelrushaj 2 жыл бұрын

amazing machine

@ARTFLY 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben have a happy successful new year! I had a lot of fun watching your MacPro 2009 ... I have the same easy smile when I think about mine :) It processes everything so well - making my VR and Editing Wold perfect. My Specs: 3.1 to 5.1 MacPro Frankintosh with Intel Xenon 5690 @ 3.59 GHz, 6 Core /12 Threads, 32 GB RAM and GTX 1070 8GB running all games on Win10 in Bootcamp, very capable of MSFS2020 VR / HL Alyx VR in high graphic fidelity. Stay Safe, have Fun & Greetings from BAVARiA, Yours ART FLY

@paulm.newitt3246 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you explained your Mac Pro. I'm looking to buy one soon, to replace my 2011 imac. My first Mac was a IIci in 1987. BTW- I was at Expo 86, love Vancouver (distant relatives in Kamloops). Perhaps do a documentary on the "Rogers Pass" 1900 snowslide. Thanks!! Well Done! (subscribed)...

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. My first Mac was a 2003 E-Mac

@JamesTomlinson2 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff im still on my 2009 mac pro a lot like yours and edit a ton of stuff and AE is not too bad with metal on my RX580 not worth trading in yet for sure. Great vid thank ya!!

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, you only need to update the GPU if you need more power

@msb1704 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert what gpu would you recommend putting in if you were to do it ?

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I have a RX580, which generally works for everything I do. Though, I want the RX6800XT but can’t easily find them.

@baba-yoshino 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Mac Pro (Mid 2012) running HS and CS6. I can’t be bothered with upgrading to the latest and greatest. Only use it for one purpose-vector artwork creation. The only thing that I need to add would probably a 30-inch Cinema Display though my dual 20-inch Cinema setup is not bad either.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I run a 32" and a 27" display. I would rather have two displays over one big one but that is mostly because I do video and like to have one monitor to view the full screen image.

@VapingBiker 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I am absolutely thinking about the Pro’s and cons of switching to a 2009 Mac Pro and upgrading it compared to my current late 2014 iMac with an i5 and garbage graphics card. I edit video in FCPX which I think would make better use of a decent gpu in an upgraded 2009 Mac Pro. I’d love your thoughts!

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

It would definitely give you better performance in FCPX. I have been using resolve more and more because of how well it uses the GPU. I'm not even using an amazing GPU but I am seeing really great results.

@macgamer1973 3 жыл бұрын

I still using my 5,1 for boot camp Gaming and just brought a Mac Pro 2009 (flash 5,1) for running Mac OS server website.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

nice!

@jingjingcoming 3 жыл бұрын

Support your thoughts and I sold my m1 and bought a Mac Pro 2010 . M 1 is faster but I think it is not steady as the Mac Pro. And there is some mouse incompatibility of m1 and other unexpected issues. Maybe m2 will be better. So I even bought MacBook Pro 2012 as my daily laptop. Anyway as a video editor, steady is the most my needs than other concerns.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Its tempting but honestly Its the drive space I have in my Mac Pro that I am most addicted to. Until they make a "M1" style Mac Pro, Im not even interested.

@shanemitchellspencer 4 жыл бұрын

I love my 2009. When I think about upgrading to a different machine, I can't find a good enough reason. Whenever I do change, I'll keep this machine. It's beautiful.

@BenSchubert 4 жыл бұрын

I can really see this machine lasting me quite a while, given how well it works with my current workflow

@shanemitchellspencer 4 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert Yeah. There's a recent video floating around here too showing TB3 working. It's shocking.

@eduardowatkinz 3 жыл бұрын

As a suggestion, one can install OpenCore 6.0.1 on the 5,1. There is an entire 5,1 community on the web, and a few videos to show how it is done, pretty simple. Anyways, the advantage of installing OpenCore 6.0.1 on the 5,1 is that it will enable hardware acceleration especially when rendering/exporting video when using FCPX. The performance difference with and without is dramatic.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to do the OpenCore install in the next couple of weeks when I add a Titan ridge card. Though without it I have had pretty good hardware acceleration using Premiere and Resolve even with H.265 files

@joytimmermans 3 жыл бұрын

you could install open core on it for a bootscreen on non efi cards and the ability to install Big Sur on it. I did it with mine and everything worked perfectly.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I’m planning on doing this soon.

@camiper4336 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert Please make a video after and before. Its a big jump on video performance after enable hardware acceleration with opencore!

@damiangardiner1318 3 жыл бұрын

My 2012 ,12 core upgraded to 3.4 GHz with 64gb ram SSD boot drive and rx580 GPU is still a beast. I mainly use it for Logic Audio and can easily get 100 tracks loaded with plug ins. I will probably upgrade to an apple silicon mac but not for a few years.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I’m in a similar boat. My machine is great for my workflow and still not maxed out yet.

@dbvetter7485 3 жыл бұрын

I still use a 2010 Mac Pro cheese grater for Final Cut Pro, Logic X, Photoshop, AutoCAD, DAZ 3D, DaVinci resolve, and about 100 other programs. It’s only a 3.2 ghz single core, 32 gigs of ram, about 14 Tb of SSD’s and spinning HD’s, a 3 gig Mac Pro Radeon Sapphire Video Card. The money I have is about $1200 total. Great machine for the money.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

With all the software using GPU more these machines will stay relevant for a while yet!

@willm5032 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 3,1 from 2008. 8 core model, maxed everything I can. Works great as a WFH machine for design work and light video editing. Only thing thats making me wanna upgrade is the fact that the processor is just too old for the latest photoshop version. But until Photoshop 2020 becomes super obsolete i have no reason to upgrade

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

It will likely be a while before that version of photoshop is obsolete.

@willm5032 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert My thoughts exactly. Though, if the studio I work for suddenly starts using it it might become a problem! That said, It shouldn't impact my home machine needs. I'm hoping I can get a good few years out of this mac before I need to upgrade

@34skyline 4 жыл бұрын

Sold my 2010 Mac Pro 12-Core a few months ago and currently have a 2019 Mac Pro but I kinda miss my 5,1 sometimes

@BenSchubert 4 жыл бұрын

I can understand that.

@ChrisBrideauMedia 3 жыл бұрын

I think I'd miss mine too. I love my 5,1. What would you miss?

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I think I would miss all the money I’d have to spend just to get an equivalent machine

@LennyLindell 3 жыл бұрын

Hi thanks for a nice channel from sweden..i just want to ask is it hard to change from radeon 7870 gpu to rx580 gpu ? is it just plug and play ?

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

It’s plug and play. You might need a different power cable but that is it. It’s easy.

@LennyLindell 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert okej does dis on every card you ned i got i gtx 680 at home some guys talk about i need to flach somting? sorry my bad eng..

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know much about that card. If it’s an NVIDIA card I’m not sure it will work beyond high Sierra. Check with the MacPro upgrade group in Facebook. There are more knowledgeable people there

@LennyLindell 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert Thank you very much really do you have the link to the facebook group? because I am thinking of buying an rx 570 or rx 580 for my mac pro and I run with Big sure on my :) which programs do you recommend for music I run myself with logic and studio one. Have you thought about starting with film editing, what do you recommend for beginners for driving a little cool effects?

@tommyruppel719 4 жыл бұрын

i have a 15 inch macbook pro 2017 with a radeon 580 or 560 with 4gb and 16gb of ram ... would you say a switch to an 2010 mac pro is a good way for me? I try tobi find a faster was for video editing ... i edit with fcpx.

@tommyruppel719 4 жыл бұрын

and by the way, very good video

@BenSchubert 4 жыл бұрын

That’s a good machine still. You would be giving up a bunch of functionality to switch to a Mac Pro. I would recommend looking at a Thunderbolt enclosure with 2 PCI slots. One for a GPU and one for an nvme raid. This way you can run desktop level power at your desk but still keep the portability of a laptop.

@justinTime077 3 жыл бұрын

Please let me know if it would be wise and cost effective for me to sell my 2015 MBP for ~800+ and upgrade one of these? I’m into everything. Heavily into making music, some KZfaq videos, programming, and gaming. I have a pc for gaming, but really want more power for my Mac needs.

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I want to say yes because I did and I love it, but it all depends on much work you want to put into setting up and maintaining it. Most of the maintenance is software as the OS can only be updated through patches like Open Core. For the most part that is fairly easy, so if you are up for doing the work, then it is pretty great. There are lots of great videos on KZfaq about this and definitely check out the "MacProUpgrade" group and the "OpenCore - on the Mac Pro" group on facebook before you buy anything. There are tons of great tips on best/compatible parts and deals.

@justinTime077 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenSchubert thanks man! I loved your video, and yes I do enjoy sort of tinkering with things like this. I have a pretty good idea of what it entails. I've just been warded off by some out there that probably haven't even done this, but still.. they say things like it's still ancient and would be slower than a new computer even when maxed out, so.. I don't want to trade my cow for some subpar beans you know? but it is so damn intriguing to me I don't know if I can resist. I do understand the single core is a bit slow... how much stuff does that actually affect? Thats something I definitely don't know too much about. Processing threads and cores. I believe I've read that GB/Logic is single core intesive as well as multicore, but yet I see audio producers out there saying this machine kills it for them. Do you have anything to say about that?

@BenSchubert 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t use Logic but there are a lot of Logic users in the MacProUpgrades group. A lot of programs are offloading more work to the GPU so look in to how you might benefit from that. I haven’t noticed any speed issues until I started dealing with 8k footage but most of that is because my GPU needs to be updated as well as my OS. 8k is still not really part of my main workflow so it doesn’t matter that much yet. I do a lot of 4K Raw work in DaVinci Resolve and it is super smooth. I also expanded the drives so my scratch drive is an 8tb nvme raid with 25tb of backup. This thing is a beast. It feels like like the computer nerd equivalent of restoring an old hot-rod to race newer sedans. It is surprisingly capable for its age.