Ok good! Because I'm gonna buy one

Can you make a vid featuring all the free ones?

@@Gaming-with-linyeah good idea

When you say the reverse on the ATR is too strong do you say so as a pilot of one of them?

⁠​⁠@@Gaming-with-linI recommend Salty 747 and FlyByWire A320neo

Plus alot of the expensive addons are really in depth simulations of said aircraft (Fenix A320, PMDG Boeings, Leonardo MD 80 etc.). But price alone isn't always the indicator of quality though, do some research on what you're buying and you'll be fine

yes

how about just pirate, i mean i paid 50$ for the game aint paying shits for a 200$ virtual plane

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pirate copies exsist

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The Best Cargo plane the RAAF ever had

do you have airbus a380? How much does it cost

The 737 max it good with a thrustmaster

@@Ghostvr_gorvrIf you’re referring to the bredok max. It’s awful. I’d rather save my money until I have enough to get the PMDG

When a plane in game costs as much as a real plane

The B2 cost 2B the Su57 only costs 40-45 million

@@HassounaDakik and the B-2 is a bomber and the SU-57 is a sad excuse for a fighter. Also, the SU-57 costs like $130,000,000

As somebody who works on the ATR-72 as cabin crew I can confirm the aircraft has a strong reverse thrust. Though I would say it’s just a tiny bit too strong I mean not by much at all and it’s still very realistic.

"LHF254, you are a go for Takeoff on runwa- OH FUCK"

@@Drache191200 XD

most military jets and all bombers are banned on the vatsim network

I am waitin takeoff cleareance in an F22 out of JFK on vatsim as we speak @@topgun1457

As cabin crew on the ATR myself I do agree it’s a very strong aircraft in terms of how much reverse thrust but it still is a tiny bit too strong in the sim not by much but it does feel like the aircraft does just instantly stop when applying reverse thrust.

Just don't get the f104 is is so bad lol

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Then go buy another game goofy. They don't need your money.

What game costs 15 or 20 dollars are you buying a ps3 game or sum wtf

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For study level planes yes, if you arent in commercial operations then no, use the free planes avaliable to you. Only people invested in the actual quality will pay. Msfs provides the physics, 3rd party companies provides the planes

Welcome to flight simming

They're made by 3rd parties, not microsoft. Those devs do like being able to eat, so yes they charge money for what they make.

The game costs 50 bucks, or you can try it out on a free gamepass trial. And you have a very realistic free A320, los of awesome small aircraft, and a decent 747. The plane are not just different 3D models with some basic differences in speed etc. The good ones simulate every software detail present in the real one etc. Even the circuit breakers at times. That takes years for independent 3rd party devs to develop, and they don't want to work for free.

but think about how many hours of enjoyment you get out of a plane, say a plane cost's 35 dollars, and you do like 10 3 hour flights, that works out at just over a dollar an hour, then think about how many years you're going to fly it and then work out how much its cost per hour, it ends up being literal cents per hour, it seems expensive at first but flight simming is an investment, I've loaded my xplane 11 with well over a thousand dollars worth of addons, but I've had 7 years of fun out of it and plan on at least another 7

Yeah it's realistic in normal operations, but it lacks when something out of the ordinary happens. Ofcourse that's not a problem for most of us but it's good to keep in mind before buying it.

it can be free but not legally 😉

having owned it for a while i can definitely say it’s worth it even at $10 imo

??? its shit

What abt me

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I work as cabin crew on the ATR yes it does come to a stop quickly but it does seem in the sim that the aircraft does slow down a bit too fast in comparison to the real thing. Not by much but I would say a tiny tweek would make it so much more realistic

Not necessarily I work on the ATR as cabin crew it is very accurate I will give you that but it does seem a tiny tweek in making it just a tiny bit less overpowered in reverse would for sure make it spot on.

As cabin crew myself who works on them they are a bit ehh I mean in real life it’s just not the best for the crew at all. Nowhere for the crew to rest and the galley only has enough room for one person at a time.

no, fs2020's physics can not simulate a tailspin

Rly?

Yes but it’s not that powerful as what is shown in the sim. I work as cabin crew on the ATR I worked from all kinds of runways and in Ireland we don’t have the longest runways either. The reverse thrust is just a tiny bit overpowered not by much in fact it’s still realistic but a tiny tweek would make it more close to the real thing

What does that even mean I’m cabin crew maybe if you can explain it better I can clear stuff up for you. If you mean we don’t do anything we do we are in charge of inflight security in the cabin, we administer passengers in the event of a medical emergency. We lead the evacuation and are the last to leave in an emergency. We are trained to fight fires onboard and to by enough time so that the aircraft can land. The list goes on and on anything else or is that enough.

Yes like 50

Yes but I am cabin crew I work on the ATR it still is a tiny bit overpowered in the sim it brings the aircraft to a complete stop instantly sometimes. I wouldn’t say it’s too unrealistic but just a tiny tweek to it would make it spot on

​@@Mgaffo222cabin crew is a far different perspective than cockpit crew. I used to fly turboprops for a living (Fairchild Merlin), the reverse thrust on the ATR is mostly accurate due to how many people set their approach speed. Most people (myself included) will have a far lower vref than necessary based on the runway length which will give the impression that the reversers over perform.

One problem coming from a Yolk and Throttle user is that pretty much sometimes planes would get out of control, like the A310, while flying, it starts to become very confusing to manage as you are flying as you may crash into the ground.

It can't go into reverse when I. The air, it has its auto locking mechanism that only unlocks reverse once pressure is on the struts (unless you unlock it yourself). The effect you feel is a typical turboprop at idle, the prop acts as a giant spoiler and it creates so much drag it will kill your energy. There is a "flight idle" zone you don't want to go below if possible

@@raymarshall6721 maybe because I’m using a Xbox controller? But it happens to me a lot.

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Very nice! Just letting you know it’s a very expensive hobby and expect to spend money on things that you expect not to spend money on. For my recommendation, I suggest you buy the PMDG 737-800 or 737-900, it’s a great starter plane to learn as its study level. If that’s too expensive then I would recommend the Fenix A320, it’s a european classic and flies like a beauty. Its systems are pretty automatic which means you wont have to do much labor in flying the plane.

@@dean-lv6dbthanks so much!