the old "send your children to chill on a boat near Iceland for 10 years to die from dysentery" trick works too

1. Disinherit 2. Murder 3. Send into battle as army commander of a one soldier army.

not nearly as powerful as it was in CK2 but still nice

i usually put my sons on a ship to try raid constantinople with 100 farmers

House seniority + designate heir = profit.

It is very important to explain to people that this only works in later starts. These laws have to be 'invented/researched' first by a culture - which is not the case for almost anyone in the early 866 start ;)

Disinherit = Profit

I love how I always seem to be learning something from the CKIII community

Feudal elective has a tendency of backfiring for me. Unless I play really tactically, which is possible with the visible health bar in CK3, feudal elective has a tendency to, after a while, cause other characters to gain priority in the election. I prefer house seniority before feudal elective.

If you're in western Europe, especially if you're starting 867, what I found works best is, just grab 1 county from Navara and hybridize the culture, those mfs got High Partition from day 1.

Charlemagne needed this tutorial ngl…

I just disinherit all the kids I dont want to be leader

I really like it when the kingdom breaks apart tho makes it more interesting

Imo rushing partition is a good strategy. Just destroy titles you'll lose. You can get to partition sometimes in one life, but primogeniture can take a long time.

I pretty much only disinherit due to stats/traits Playing wide - give your second sons a duchy and they won't inherit Playing tall - have elective on your capital duchy where you can vote alone for your primary heir

I'll throw my own tip into the ring. When starting as a count or duke, don't create the default kingdoms. Conquer as many duchies as you can and create a custom kingdom. That way every duchy you hold becomes a de jure title in your custom kingdom. This works really well in Africa and could give you a really solid start when you go for the Mother of us all achievement. With an empire-sized kingdom, any kingdoms you lose in future can be easily recaptured and if you don't have too many heirs you have time to integrate kingdoms into your primary kingdom.

It’s much easier to just get a higher tier title and, when the main dude dies, ask all your sibling to be your vassals since they’ll probably have +100 relations with you and you are their De Jure ruler

I'm some what new to this game but I'm almost done uniting Ireland. and it's only 890

I often preferred elective succession in CKII because, as long as I kept my vassals vaguely happy, it meant I could choose my most qualified child to be my heir instead of just the oldest. Also gave me an extra challenge if my vassals didn't like me

When you referred to Deheubarth as "this one" i was clenching my fists and teeth in rage lol

I have over 500 hours on ck3 and never used this but definitely will be what a pro tip

The "child lost in the woods" strat is great too

Ottawa Welshman, what a name ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

After a year, this clip has indeed changed my gameplay

Elections work if you have only one person who can vote, I think. Trying to keep the HRE on CK2 is hella complicated

I will make sure to use this thanks;)

helped me so much honestly

It’s work less with scandinave election

As a Welshman, conquering Wales... tanistry is infinitely better than fuedal elective!

1500 prestige is a lot to make that change

Really helped 😉

Honestly the good old imprison then execute works wonders

Great Tip,but some titles seem to not have the option to create a law like this. Do you know why?

Good video.

I always get that " heir of wrong primary dynasty" or something like that

I do this until I unlock house senority and absolute control/authority, then I just click on whatever son/daughter has the best traits and stats

imprisoning and throwing all the bad candidates into the dungeon always worked pretty well for me. The tyranny wears off pretty quickly. Also useful if you're trying to get the eugenics decision

I mostly just disinherint the ones i dont want

Thanks

Thanks!!!

Another good path is pre inheritance, titles your heirs hold count towards their inheritance. If you can rapidly expand give new lands to your second sons so the have crap land and don't steal the good land from your main heir. It also could theoretically be useful to just let your realm fracture to have multiple independent rulers in your dynasty for renown. (Especially if the splinter states are weaker than you for easy reconquest)

What you can also do is judt Holding one of your highest titles. So for example if a kingdom is your highest title dont make another kingdom but stay with the one you have right now. And then as soon as you pass away your primary successor gets the kingdom and because there are no other titles that are higher all the other successors become vassals to the primary one

My general strategy is to just hold one duchy, one kingdom, and one empire. Since your kingdom and empire can't be split, if you give all your non-primary heirs a single duchy somewhere (just go to war for it - holy war for duchy, ftw) their entire inheritance will be satisfied. You will keep all your holdings, your primary empire, your capital kindgom, and your capital duchy. Your holdings can be anywhere in any kingdom, and as long as you've already given that kingdom title away your heirs don't get to touch the leftover holding you have - provided they have been given a duchy title. If they don't have a duchy, the succession switches to sharing out counties, which is when you lose your actual holdings (the only part that really matters). You can even keep holdings that are IN the duchies you give to your heirs, as long as you pre-give the duchy titles out. If you wait til death, those heirs will get the de jure holdings along with the duchy, which might be a problem if one of those holdings has a special building you would rather keep.

No elections in my game. I´ll conquer everything back.

Yea but he can lose the election right?

Wow, i don't need to kill... i-i mean tragically loose my male heirs anymore...

Other videos take 35 minutes to explain this. Thank you so much.

the thing i usually do with gavelkind is I try to only keep one of the biggest title, like only one kingdom until in one guy's life he can form an empire title to pass down

Feudal elective mechanic could backfire Also 1500 prestige 🥶

Some realms has elective laws that you can put on some titles and your vassals and yourself will vote on them. The best one is Scandinavian Elective where your close family will be the only contenders

I like to rush for a kingdom title and then rush to get the confederate partition law removed, after that its smooth sailing, putting up a shit load of feast to make sure your vassals doesn't immediately dismantle your realm then it should be fine

You can also force your other sons to be knights and have them die 😊

POV: you're a tribal ruler: 💀💀

I just disinherit all of my non heir sons 😂😂😂

Personally, I've learned to love confederate partition. It really works well if you lean into it heavily. Often enough my sons already have titles, an the ones that don't end up as independent kings that can be easily readded to the empire if I want. As a result, I now have allies from Asturias to Mesopotamia who all have at least 3000 levies. On top of that, since I am house head I can call them all to war for little to no cost to myself. It is satisfying to call half the known world to your side whenever you want. It pairs really well with raiding + concubinage, starting as Bjorn in 867 after a few generations I somehow have a kingdom claim the Ummayads. It's also just really interesting to see your house spread and take on different forms. I think for my next playthrough I want to spread my dynasty from Ethiopia to England

There’s always the murder forest

You can also keep a close eye on your queen, and when she's 7-8 months pregnant, save. If it's another boy then reload until you get a girl.

I generally just don't expand past what I can give my sons... only one duchy title when a Duke, only one kingdom when a king, etc, so this way only ur first son will get the biggest and main title

Disinherit goes brrr

I just give my non heir sons what they want and they become vassals so when I die they stay as my heirs vassals

I always prefer to play as religions with monasticism for this reason Also btw seeing another person with Welsh heritage is really cool

This is great for mid game, but the best strat I've found for the early game is to simply jail and send to the dungeon those heirs you find wanting. Small opinion penalty, but not as bad as straight out executing them.

The fracturing is historically acurate tho and also the whole reason vassels didn't work that well

Me lowkey being doing this without knowing it wasn't known

If I'm playing strategically as opposed to roleplaying, I'll only use feudal elective when I know that I'll be the only elector (when I hold all of the counties in the duchy), otherwise I find that the AI is actually pretty good at manoeuvring votes to put their candidate first.

It's all fun and games until your vassals think you're Satan

Depending on start date this does work. But if you do 876 the earliest start date. Really just give all your other children small counties and duchies and make them your vassals. Then they become your primary heirs vassals

What I like to do is when I’m about to die, if I’m the dynasty head I disinherit all my heirs except the eldest.

Me who play tall in one county with lots of baronies : 😎

Today with most mods not affecting achievements anymore. Just need to load up one of the several mods that gives you the primogeniture law for free and you suddenly don’t need to worry about that pesky partition succession anymore Unless you want to deal with it then by all means deal with it. Personally it’s just not fun for me as it stalls my growth for years and super annoying, but if others like it then I’m happy for them. It’s a sandbox game after all, do whatever gives you the most fun

This why I'm very selective and careful with the amount of shildren I have.

Nice

Whatttt I never knew that 🤯

Hey i moved to AB from the UK, i feel like that and ck3 makes me think we will get along

A good way also is to ask your children to take the vows but this is heavily RNG orientated depending on what your child’s traits are (for example a cynical person would deny)

There's always the good ol "become a monk or be forgotten in a dungeon until you die from tetanus" strategy for unwanted male children

I just disinherit them

Whales is comprised of three principal duckies

I just disinherit this was posted a year ago so there were actually no penalties to disinheriting then. Also disinheriting is so much better than dynastic legacies anyway.

Nah, I usually attack my siblings really fast and get they land before they can make allies. Also helps with getting money since one or two always refuse to give up they land and end in jail.

The best trick I know is to get a 6-7 slot province and just own every barony, when you die gavelkind doesn’t not give away baronies so you basically don’t lose power on succession

I’ve formed the United Kingdom, including all of Ireland, just to have it ripped apart when my favorite King died. The realism is tragic

I just send as many children to be monks as possible (usually play Catholic or orthodox) and disinherit the rest until my preferred heir remains. It usually keeps me until primogeniture.

Personally I go for dynasty head and than disinherit my other eligible heirs. Usually than turning around and still granting them lots of lands, (so opinion hardly changes) than allying with them. If my main heir dies I can always re inherit others.

it really did

works if your council likes you when you die

It’s not a dukie it’s a duchy lmao

I used this to keep norway and england together after hardrada died, which i was mever able to do before England and norway stayed united for 6 generations afterwards

I did the same for Ireland, I just used tannistry instead, since none of my family members are vassals, my primary heir gets all my domain.

I just go with Bohemia and research court of princes. No more succession problems that way

As others have mentioned not all nations have access to these election laws in earlier starts. However the Norse do have access to a special Scandinavian elective law that is much cheaper to change to and basically does the same thing.

Make them monks

Give your the titles to your grandchild ( your heir’s heir) this way you won’t worry about succession for one lifetime

I just disenherit all of them except the one with the best traits lol, it's expensive but late game it's alr

I usually just wait till I get old and then I disinherit my spares but I make them Dukes so they still get something and are vassals to my heir when he takes over.

Disinheriting works too.

Only problem is the cost of changing succession laws.

The amount of children I’ve had to kill in that game

One thing that was missed in the video is you should make it a point to never have Vassals, besides Republic (Mayors), in those counties or else they will immediately be given the right to vote. Its always best to keep the entire duchy owned by you alone and if not, your heir. Keept this in mind especially when you get the Royal Court (if you have the DLC on) as there are a few decisions there which will give you options to give counties to vassals; most of them being the ones you own. If you're curious, Holy Orders are fine as they count the same as a functioning Mayor vassal just don't expect them to boost your development as well as normal mayors do. The only badside to this is when you're Tribal as doing this not only spends much needed Prestige to minmax scale but also you're basically already taking into account that you're going to stay in that place in the world foreseeably till the end of the game so no more Varangian Adventuring for you my friend.

I usually just cheat in primogeniture lol