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Best Coilovers & Shocks for Your Honda (Koni / Ground Control 1989 Honda Civic EF Sedan)
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Күн бұрынWe Bought the Koni Shocks Here!
Front Shocks - amzn.to/2RRufse
Rear Shocks - amzn.to/2QRwg7W
In my opinion this is the best suspension setup that you could get for your car. I've owned a variety of different setups in the past but this has been the one that I prefer over all of the others I have tried. I believe it's perfect for a daily driver with a softer spring rate, but the shocks also perform very well with a stiffer spring if you decide to track your car. I'm currently using these same shocks but with 550lb rate springs on my track car and have been since March 2015 with no issues. If you can afford them, I guarantee you will no be disappointed! Enjoy the video!
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@imcnblu 4 жыл бұрын
I've been rocking the Koni Yellow/Ground Control setup on my DA for at least 10 years. Such a great setup. Probably the best "bang for your buck" suspension setups you can get.
@mcef9117 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I get busy or get in a funk. I watch your videos new or old gets me going again on my crx! Thanks
@GarageBuiltHondas 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man, love to hear it!
@raytech1479 3 ай бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Hey man can you help me. I want to take off my coilovers from my shuttle and don't know what oem shocks to use. Can I use civic 2000 shocks or which can I use?
@rpgfreak92787 6 жыл бұрын
Love that ride height! Looks perfect and bet it feels a million time better.
@MuffinRacing 6 жыл бұрын
The Ground Control/Koni set up is a great combination. I love the adjustment too.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. Such a great setup!
@DugEphresh Жыл бұрын
I don't know why it took me this long to get to the handling portion of GBH's bible on how to. Probobly the money and lack of time since it's winter on the right coast. Thanks again my dude! Another job well done, I feel like I owe you a pizza and a 6 pack by now. Happy New Year and best of luck in whatever you are doing now!
@GarageBuiltHondas Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that man!
@crxk20r59 5 жыл бұрын
Like yourself, I’ve used MANY different suspension set-ups on my CRX’s. I am currently using my favorite of them all: Koni Yellow’s (Race Version) w/Ground Control coils 600 lbs front / 800 lbs rear. Been on my car since 2013, seen track days & auto cross with absolutely No issues! Another brand suspension I would love ❤️ to try someday are Fortune Auto’s!!😎
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. I've had the yellows on my track car since 2015 and never an issue! Those Fortune Autos are what I'd like to try next also!
@basabra 5 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for a CRX driving for NO track driving ?
@crxk20r59 5 жыл бұрын
Bas van Will for the street (no “spirited” driving) I would run something like Tein street basis. They’re inexpensive & pretty soft so they feel good on shitty public roads.
@basabra 5 жыл бұрын
@@crxk20r59 cool, thanks
@crxk20r59 5 жыл бұрын
Bas van Will ohh yeah keep in mind with the Tein street basis coil over kit, u will need to remove some stock parts from your oem suspension to transfer over to the Tein’s...Good Luck!
@Kenneth1350 6 жыл бұрын
I have koni oranges on my 8th gen si paired with eibach pro springs and it handles better than oem. 👌👌
@rojastojas 4 жыл бұрын
How's the drop? I'm considering this setup.
@soundboydesign1373 3 жыл бұрын
Canada here...nice choice...tack weld shock top...happy racing lads! One love
@mark0shark0 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! I installed this same set up on my crx a month ago but i didnt use the cups that came with the konis.. the sleeves are sitting on that clip you moved down but my sleeves are diffrent from those you intalled. Great content bro, keep em comin!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, you and I have the GC sleeves that were made for the Konis. He utilized the cups because I kept my sleeves but sold him the springs and the generic sleeves.
@jiovanilozano1752 4 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas wait so i have gc dose that mean i dont have to use to cups? cause i put them on
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
It just depends on the perches that come with your coilovers.
@Beardalorian 6 жыл бұрын
Very clean. Awesome content as usual. Much respect to you and your channel for us Honda boys.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks homie!
@charliesmith7942 Жыл бұрын
You don't want the shock to come out fast lol. Slow rebound is what u want. It keeps the spring from shooting up
@Brianlsvtec 6 жыл бұрын
Another awesome ef video!! Keep up the great work.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrisgagnon4608 6 жыл бұрын
For the spinning bolt...try staking it all around with a punch, right at the seam between hat and bolt. It's what we do on motorcycles to keep bearing collars in place.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Love it, I'll try it!
@forestnfren8146 4 ай бұрын
at 8:39 you have to ask yourself... "How adjustable is this sleeve really for my application" :P
@nowaydudehuh8145 6 жыл бұрын
The best cars are the purpose built ones! Loving the suspension setup,if you dont mind what coilover sleeves are those looking into gettin sum for da bout to do the shocks and was planning on lowering it a bit just to get rid of wheel gap and feel a little more planted on them tight corners!! Always fire content! Keep doing your thing Jon! I definitely respect the grind homie!👊✌
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Ground Controls made by Eibach
@nowaydudehuh8145 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas oh for sure didn't notice you had put it the title my bad! On another note,is it left to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt on my b-18a1 cause im going to tackle it (waterpump-timing belt)tomorrow and for the life of me i cant remember. i got the manual but it don't say if it's left or right! Your imput would appreciated! Thank$ sorry for the stupid ?👊✌
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
You're correct in your guess! 👍🙏
@nowaydudehuh8145 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas 👌👊✌🙏 much Appreciated!
@peopleschampgarage7869 5 жыл бұрын
I have koni race valved yellows with gc and they work great. People talk shit and call them junk but thry handle up to 1k valving. I run 750 front and 850 rears. Feels good.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Did you have them re-valved? I thought about going with a different setup after this year, but not sure what direction I want to go in yet.
@Geargeargear333 5 жыл бұрын
Koni yellows and ground controls m best bang for buck. This has been the way since the fast and furious days
@FrenchValleyAirport 6 жыл бұрын
The studs for the top hats are pressed in, they're spinning because the splines are stripped, which also means the top hat is effectively only being held in with one bolt.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, sucks!
@fijitears Ай бұрын
Got this for $220 it’s going on my 91 TGP SI
@ixela9 10 ай бұрын
Are those stock bumpstops? Trying to find a set of them for my hatch, and I'm runing Koni's too! Any links would be helpful :D
@RadDadBMX 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work again my friend. Go VW!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@bseries8826 6 жыл бұрын
Had those on my end and love how they ride
@upfactoryracing4148 6 жыл бұрын
That's a nice little track build. With that suspension components it must turn on a dime nice and flat!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
It felt like poo before, but it felt nice and tight after.
@rojastojas 4 жыл бұрын
The drop looks clean and even.
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
It's a nice stance, and rides well too.
@784563 2 жыл бұрын
Always been wondered why the hack there is NO dusters in the kit? This is the main reason why konis with gc start to leaking that fast.
@GarageBuiltHondas 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@784563 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas you didnt use any dust boot?
@GarageBuiltHondas 2 жыл бұрын
No
@sosep1 6 жыл бұрын
Have these koni on my 96 ek and the ride quite good..btw i remembered the fans on your radiator, haven't you considered putting the fans on the front then reversing their connection to the socket. So instead of sucking air, they will be then blowing air into the radiator. Of course you can ditch the fan shroud
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I might do that, but no need for now. I like how it attaches to the stock fan.
@em1j797 6 жыл бұрын
Good video man!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
👍
@FreeskierSean 9 ай бұрын
I have those same wheels on my 89 sedan. what tires are you running?
@beagler4234 5 жыл бұрын
Exhaust sounds great at the end
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@hugoamarales5378 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had those type of extended top hats and had the same issue
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
What a pain. I've been lucky. I've used a bunch and still using 3 sets and luckily no issues.
@spoonfixer3387 6 жыл бұрын
Nice ride! Looks rough but choice parts where it counts. Clean build.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the same, it's a great start for a track car like my old one was!
@raytech1479 3 ай бұрын
Hey man can you help me. I want to take off my coilovers from my shuttle and don't know what oem shocks to use. Can I use civic 2000 shocks or which can I use?
@ramvanbobby3889 6 жыл бұрын
yea I like it to its a driver and a track car just a fun cool little ride 😀
@Adamdub612 6 жыл бұрын
I love that car. Sounds good too!!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Yonaka seems to make a nice exhaust!
@Buttracken 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 96 Integra sedan and the suspension is gonna be the first thing i work on. A lot of people have different opinions on what works the best and I am getting a bit lost in all the chatter and opinions. what would you suggest for a daily driver non track car that will be opened up on back roads? I'm shooting for a horsepower goal of 300.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
KTuned coils. Heard nothing but good things about them. I've been a big fan of the Function Forms also.
@spencersgarage 11 ай бұрын
It’s been a while (5 years) since I’ve done the suspension on my 91. Do you remember if the Tein springs needed to be compressed to uninstall?
@GarageBuiltHondas 11 ай бұрын
I don't recall.
@bseries8826 6 жыл бұрын
Clean!
@surfaceenergy 6 жыл бұрын
Try hitting that stuck top-hat nut with a good impact wrench after spraying some penetrating (heehee) oil. It might break free even with the bolt spinning like that.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@darthshabu9262 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon. I'm a big fan of yours and I was wandering if I can bring my teggy there in el Paso maybe you can help me with my suspension
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Sure! Where are you from?
@darthshabu9262 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas I'm from Dallas your videos are really helpful just like static. You guys are awesome
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that, and he does make some excellent cars! I'm in El Paso, might be a little far for just suspension work.
@darthshabu9262 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas its ok I can make the trip there if you can give me a hand on my teggy I really wanna swap a b20 on my teggy its just hard to find an honest shop here in dallas
@darthshabu9262 6 жыл бұрын
Its cool Jon I'm still saving some dough for this project anyways but I figured I reach out to you if you can help me with my dc2
@ronniecason9807 6 жыл бұрын
See Jon i told you the Yanaka's sounded really good. I shot them a follow up email about when they might be releasing their 2.5" catback for the crx and they said the 23rd of this month. Teh guy a talked with said they should be in the 299-349 price range. I told him as soon as its on the site im ordering one because the one i got of ebay for my car to pass inspection quite honestly sound that complete shite.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds clean!! I installed my old eBay exhaust on the old track car and it sounds so damn clean. Never again will I find one I bet.
@ronniecason9807 6 жыл бұрын
I know I looked for a while for the one that you had on your ef but to no avail and ended up getting this as i knew it was just going to be a temporary one till Yonaka released their crx exhaust but damn it sounds horrible www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-MUFFLER-TIP-STAINLESS-STEEL-EXHAUST-CATBACK-SYSTEM-FOR-88-91-HONDA-CR-X-3DR/151088097734?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
That one is 2.5". Mine is a 2.25". That might have something to do with the way it sounds.
@ronniecason9807 6 жыл бұрын
That could be also i just knew that i wanted a full 2.5" exhaust from the header back. I honestly think it has more to do with what they're calling a muffler.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@EvilGenius007 6 жыл бұрын
Swapping out my stock EM1 suspension for Koni Yellow + GC with 440F/380R rates for autocross/daily driver. Just got the final parts today. Any thoughts on the purpose of the metal sleeve that sits inside the bushings in the top hat? I bought china extended top hats and they came with hard plastic bushings that don't fit over the Koni sleeve, but fit fine over the bare shaft. Wondering if I'm better off drilling out the bushing or running them without the sleeve... Thanks for the great (and timely) video!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Use the sleeve for sure. The OEM sleeve he had on his old shocks didn't fit the Koni's. I used the new supplied one. I wouldn't use those weird bushing the top hats come with. I'd suggest getting the energy suspension ones or just OEM if that's all you have currently. The Koni sleeve fit a little tight into the ES bushings but it wasn't a difficult fit at all.
@EvilGenius007 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas thanks for the insight. I'm really curious how well those hard "bushings" I have would work, but I don't want to go for multiple alignments just to satisfy my curiosity. I will probably break down and buy the ES bushings, just goes against my nature as a cheapskate and desire to experiment.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Try it! I just felt like there's no deflection on those solid bushins but maybe that would be even better?
@findtherightbeat 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! See you're from Texas, are you related to Larry Widmer (ENDYN)?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I wish!
@manny5138 5 жыл бұрын
Picked up all 4 new Koni yellow shocks on my local classifieds page for $180 cant wait to pair these up with the ground controls and throw them on.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good price. I guarantee you'll love the way they feel.
@manny5138 5 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas I hear a lot of good things about this set up so thought I’d try it out. Had skunk2 coils on my crx but they were too stiff.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
You'll have to let me know what you think when you get them on.
@manny5138 5 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas will do bro!
@manny5138 5 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas where do you buy your set of gc coils? I was looking on eBay but in the description of the item it said “fits tokiko blue”. Am I suppose to find a set that specifically fits Koni yellows?
@SoulEraser000 4 жыл бұрын
What's better? To put the parts together like in this video, or to buy the Koni Ground Control coil over? Or is it basically the same thing?
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
Basically the same thing. Just shop around and find the best prices.
@fixinbrokevws9959 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@jtp336 4 жыл бұрын
Just a quick question, did you reuse the oem Brake Line Bracket that attaches to the bottom of the strut and sits above/on the fork? If not, what did you do (if anything) to secure the brake line. I didnt see that mentioned and was curious.
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
We zip tied it to the shock since there is no provision for it unfortunately. On my 90 Si the stainless brake lines I used were shorter so it doesn't wrap around the shock and it is attached only to the fork but is perfect length. I wish I knew why these were shorter.
@sentree9857 5 жыл бұрын
What suspension setup u recommend for daily/street/maybe track use for eg del sol? I’m planning on running a 15x7 Advanti storm s1 with 205 50 tire.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
THIS👆
@harrisomar01 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever have any issues with the skunk2 sleeves over the koni shock?
@GarageBuiltHondas Жыл бұрын
Depends on the mount. Not sure if the Skunk2 fit the Koni shock.
@kirtlandpratt873 3 жыл бұрын
Hey what is the name of that threaded sleeve that the spring sits on?
@bobbydelamar606 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that combo is good for decent DD comfort.? I'm looking for something that has some comfort but performs good. The Tein's I have on my prelude are a little harsh.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
These shocks are amazing. Paired with a not too stiff coil setup and you'll be good.
@IgoOutlateAtnight Жыл бұрын
My car is a daily driver...no track. Any one have input on spring rates on a 1998 Honda Prelude?
@GarageBuiltHondas Жыл бұрын
Are you lowering it?
@hondaman9121 6 жыл бұрын
I've used duct tape around the shock w rubber rings lol .. 😂
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, that works! Duct tape will probably last longer too!
@eddyhuerta89 5 жыл бұрын
Cool Monotech did my wiring too lol.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, that harness looks nice
@connor-cw8ul 2 жыл бұрын
Where can we get the washers you are talking about at 4:40
@kyleholmes7459 6 жыл бұрын
Hey I would like to run this setup with some helper springs so the main springs don’t come off tension at full droop. Will a 3 inch helper fill the space or do I need a longer one? Thanks for the awesome content!
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Those will be fine because you can always adjust the c clip to raise or lower the coil perches and fine tune it to your liking.
@kyleholmes7459 6 жыл бұрын
Right. Thanks for answering Jon, I really love your channel. So on your track car when it’s jacked up with the tires off of the ground the spring comes down off of the top hat less than 3 inches?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I don't remember, but remember you can adjust the c clip and raise the perch on these shocks. Is this for your track car?
@kyleholmes7459 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I understand, but moving the perch up will raise your ride height. It’s my CRX which is built for track/ mountain roads.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know then. Have you checked your suspension and measured it? It looks to be around 3" from the other video but I've never measured it. I haven't touched my suspension since I did that work a few months back.
@bakeot 5 жыл бұрын
What top hats do you guys use??
@MrMausTrap 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the springs and the coil sleeve? Do you have a link? When I look it up it shows a different kit
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
Link me the kit you looked up?
@Smokeout89 6 жыл бұрын
👍 just in time for my (420)smoke break lol...definitely a great suspension set up for the 💰👌 ....I wish u we’re in Cali so I can take u my Dc2 😭need a trusted mechanic
@hashslinginhasher 5 жыл бұрын
Come thru fam
@sextuplemcasian6799 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a 1990 civic dx hatch. This will fit for the trim right? The link for the front shocks is not available anymore btw
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Must not exist any longer. Search and you will find them.
@DmanGuitar327 3 жыл бұрын
Quick q.. does the smaller ground control sleeve go in the rear? Or the front?
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
Front
@rollinjunk 4 жыл бұрын
Where might you find the coil overs? I don't see them listed on the eibach site..
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
groundcontrolstore.com/
@bobbydelamar606 5 жыл бұрын
So the ground controls would be a good match for street also?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, just get a softer set, maybe even the off the shelf rates they suggest.
@exenuvo2383 5 жыл бұрын
Btw, I think I've seen you out and about. I'm also here in El Paso. Be cool to meet up. !
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Do you drive an Integra as mentioned in your other comment?
@AyCasti Жыл бұрын
Do I need helper springs?
@GarageBuiltHondas 11 ай бұрын
No
@musk. 2 жыл бұрын
How close can this setup get to OEM height? Can you raise above OEM height?
@GarageBuiltHondas 2 жыл бұрын
No idea, sorry.
@paulporter5958 6 жыл бұрын
Did you ever sell your sedan? I dream about that car on the reg.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I got a payment on it. Waiting for the rest. Looks like it's gone though!
@paulporter5958 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas damn. Well I hope whoever got it, knows what a well built machine it is. You should build another one and sell it to me. Lol. Just a thought.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, no more space or time for another build. Trying to have only 3 that I can concentrate on!
@J27M 5 жыл бұрын
How about coil overs for a BA5 Prelude? I want to go stanced
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, that's not my thing so I don't have any experience with it. You'll want to see which let you ride really low.
@metaphysicalprotegy 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to compress the springs onto the struts?
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
No
@FG2Zim 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason these Koni Yellow rear shock fork is too narrow to fit around the shock bushing of the reengineered Skunk2 lcas. It fits their previous version of lcas but not the new ones so now Im buying a set of coils lol
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but kinda lame too. Do you drive an EK?
@FG2Zim 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas no I drive an eg but I just found out that the previous owner used 1213SPORT which is for ek but still fits the eg. It's supposed to be 1310SPORT which has a physically wider fork to fit the wider bushing. Found all this out after I shaved my delrin bushing down smh 🤦
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@lebronjordan802 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking to get a Honda Civic ef sedan year 88 - 91 manual transmission as my first project car. Where do you recommend to find or to search for?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Everywhere. Facebook, Craigslist, letgo, Offerup. You'll see them sporadically on different sites.
@lebronjordan802 5 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas thanks man!
@jetonzeqiri9553 6 жыл бұрын
hi John Im doing Dpfi to Mpfi convers I heave ECU P06 is not PM6 I don’t no is obd0 or Obd1 and I ned distributor adapter distributor to cen you sugest which ecu and distributor .
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Which obd are you going with?
@1mehrad 5 жыл бұрын
Was the spring in the sleeve a little loose or it was completely tight?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Diameter or length?
@1mehrad 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas diameter
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
It has some wiggle room.
@1mehrad 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks
@jdmgarage2191 6 жыл бұрын
Good work like always?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I guess?! Lol
@pablo_em1649 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think 380/300 spring rates good for dd / track ?
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
Probably too soft for the track, but should be really comfortable on the street.
@exenuvo2383 5 жыл бұрын
Think these would be good for integral?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
For any Honda they are great. Probably one of the best shocks out here.
@eaglesfanchris12 5 жыл бұрын
What would your budget street setup suggestion be
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really think anyone should buy a budget setup. It's one of the most important mods in terms of functionality and aesthetics. I suggest saving up and getting what you really want for your preferred setup (daily/track/weekend car).
@Press7 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Following on from the above. Would you suggest this set up in the video, over Coilovers such as the MeisterR Zetas? I priced up the Koni Yellows and springs and the price difference between the two isn't that much. I've got a '91 Sedan which I just want to daily. No track use but I want it to be functionally low. Thanks for all the content you put out, absolutely invaluable!
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
The Koni's are excellent shocks. I haven't used a ton of setups but it's by far the best I have used. For a daily you'll love them, pair them with some nice coils/springs that aren't too stiff and you'll have a really nice ride.
@Press7 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Thanks man. Appreciate the reply and all the videos you put up. You've helped me learn so much already and I've barely started. Gunna grab some decals to rep you over here in England!
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! 💓
@fabianbischof5711 5 жыл бұрын
should the rear spring rate be higher than the front spring rate or the other way around? It seems like everyone does their own thing there.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Usually stiffer in the front. But depends on driver and car setup. I have the same rates front and rear on my car.
@fabianbischof5711 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Hey man thanks for the quick reply. Basicly im just a newbie getting into this whole thing and i got myself an ef hatch. I wanted to upgrade the suspension now. Is there a place where i can get more detailed information on this topic. For example what the reason behind putting in stiffer springs in front is.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Try hondatech.com. There's a lot of info still there. You'll just have to weed through it.
@pizzaguy58 4 жыл бұрын
What tophat is on the car? I currently have coilovers and am looking to switch over to the Koni/GC setup but don’t have any tophats on the car...
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
amzn.to/3ay3mmk
@pizzaguy58 4 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas thank you!!! And then just replace bushings with ES I assume
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
You'll have to shave down the ES bushings but yes, that's what I like to use. amzn.to/2yxzA3L
@thehouseofprojects9356 6 жыл бұрын
Make more wago videos do the 2in pipin and intake
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Might make a walk around video... ..right before I sell it! 😨
@MiikeyLawless 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of progress CS2s?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I've never used them but I've heard nothing but good things about them.
@MiikeyLawless 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas cool, yeah i see those and this setup pop up a lot as the go to. Decisions decisions...
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Those are slightly less expensive
@MiikeyLawless 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Yeah, they look quality. If i do go that route, ill let you know what i think. Their large variety of spring rates is attractive.
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Agree! I'd love to try a set one day so I could compare to the Koni's because the Koni's have the best ride I've experience in an EF.
@justinmangubat7764 5 жыл бұрын
Would there be any issues running the koni/ground control combo with 15x7+35 wheels 205/50 tires on a 91 civ si?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
No
@jiovanilozano1752 5 жыл бұрын
how did that go for you?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
For who? And what do you mean?
@jiovanilozano1752 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas sorry wasn't really specific i was wondering how justin set up went if he ever tried those 15x7 with 35+ offset cause i my self have a 15x7 but mine are 25+ offset and my tires rub but i am on stock suspension
@anthonymccormick7761 6 жыл бұрын
Have you got the part number for the shocks for an ek civic?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I don't, sorry. Google it, it should come up real easy. TH Motorsports always keeps them in stock too.
@jarridjeanpierre2787 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get the springs and the sleeve?
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy them directly from Ground Control or many other websites including ebay I believe.
@rollthelosingdice 5 жыл бұрын
What would you use on a 91 prelude si?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Anything of nicer quality. Just stay away from the eBay junk.
@TyrantTaco 3 жыл бұрын
What’s a good spring rate for an ek civic coupe?? Thinking of going Koni yellows w/ ground control
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
350/250
@TyrantTaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Awesome! Cant wait to track with this setup, went with the maxspeedingrods from one of the videos you've posted, but now im looking at something a bit more substantial! THANKS!
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
You might want a little stiffer if you're tracking it then.
@TyrantTaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas what’s a good spring rate for track then?
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
I run 500 all on my track car. I'm not sure how Ek's feel but maybe at least a 450/400 or around there.
@treerexaudi 6 жыл бұрын
Civics are red Sileighties are blue But the panda trueno Has beaten them two
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf, lol
@treerexaudi 6 жыл бұрын
xD just a poem for fun also very noice car and vid
@MiikeyLawless 5 жыл бұрын
Even though i have a honda, I still
@bettyporter3673 5 жыл бұрын
And a rx7 sent them all three to heaven.
@nelsonrosario4849 6 жыл бұрын
Hello , I just recently moved to Lewisville Tx. And I don’t know about any Honda car shows or car meets. Do anybody know anything in or around Lewisville ?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Nelson I don't. That's not close to me at all. I'm way out in West Texas.
@nelsonrosario4849 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas Oh ok. I have a 93 Civic 4 door and I’m doing some work to it.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@BoostedPastime 6 жыл бұрын
Would you say that this is better than Form Function?
@BoostedPastime 6 жыл бұрын
Or raceland
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Easily better than both. There really isn't any comparison. These shocks can be rebuilt and are dampening adjustable.
@user-ql6by8cy9s 5 жыл бұрын
Have d2s on my da9 thinkin of buyins some for the ef hatch
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
How do those ride?
@user-ql6by8cy9s 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly like crap
@user-ql6by8cy9s 5 жыл бұрын
Have to set the dampining all the way hard
@user-ql6by8cy9s 5 жыл бұрын
But good after that
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I've never been in a car with them. It's probably the sacrifice for being super low.
@hadrianaugustus3547 3 жыл бұрын
These good for DD?
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best
@Tec-fv2xb 6 жыл бұрын
Quick question for u. On my integra, the driver side axle has play at where it meets the half shaft. Is that normal
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
Does it drive fine?
@Tec-fv2xb 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas it has a vibration at exactly 35 mph. Nothing before that 35 mph and nothing after.
@mark0shark0 6 жыл бұрын
Wade 1 theres a c-clip around the splines on the axel that helps keep the axel in the half shaft. Might want to look into that
@Tec-fv2xb 6 жыл бұрын
mark0shark0 I’ll take a look tomorrow. Thanks bro
@mark0shark0 6 жыл бұрын
Wade 1 take a look at the bearing on the half shaft too, might be the problem
@basabra 5 жыл бұрын
I'm interested, what is the price of this set?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
I believe close to $550 if I remember correctly.
@basabra 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks will definitely buy it. Hope there is a seller in the Netherlands ...
@iggyG31 3 жыл бұрын
What would you prefer skunk2 pro s2 or koni/ground setup ?
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
For?
@iggyG31 3 жыл бұрын
Ed hatch
@iggyG31 3 жыл бұрын
EF*
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. "For" what purpose?
@iggyG31 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my bad lol . Daily driven and some fun corners every now & then
@RadiOG58 6 жыл бұрын
Hate to be the debbie downer but I am really skeptical about those coil sleeves being from Ground Control. If they were, you would not use that silver cup piece because they would rest on the little clip that goes into the grooves on the shock body. Those springs look like the ones used by GC since they are made by Eibach. Plus GC sleeves use a hex bolt to tighten the collar that the spring rests on. I am just saying this because I don't know how other sleeves hold up, especially if they are from random eBay sellers.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
You're correct and perceptive. The coil perches and sleeves are generic, hence why we are using the cups. The coils themselves are the GC's made by Eibach. These used to be my old springs but I have upgraded to 550 rates. I'm still using my Koni's with the original GC sleeves/perches. We had to use the cups because it was cheaper to find a generic set of eBay sleeves/perches. Good eye man! *I forgot to add the eBay sleeves/perches are great. I've used many in the past with no issues. They are a great solution for picking out some custom rate springs.*
@RadiOG58 6 жыл бұрын
Garage Built Hondas it was really difficult for me to find a front set of GC sleeves since I already had rears so I almost did this. I ended up finding some GC sleeves and buying used springs. I love this setup. I have 450 all around.
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if they sell the sleeves separately. I'm sure they might be we never checked and since he was buying my old coilover setup I had those sleeves lying around and threw them in for him. I still think buying a $35ish coilover set off eBay just for the sleeves might be cheaper than the GC/Eibach ones. Lol
@willmoua1 6 жыл бұрын
Tack weld the stud. Impact it out
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
If he needs to remove it that'd work. For now just gonna leave it as we won't be touching it anytime soon.
@ByThePond 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the lockring tool?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
In not sure which tool you mean. I can't remember. Remind me which part?
@ByThePond 6 жыл бұрын
The tool used to adjust the height?
@GarageBuiltHondas 6 жыл бұрын
It comes with coilovers when your buy some.
@AdamAus85 3 жыл бұрын
Man if you're willing to spend those bucks on a car like that, I feel compelled to get Koni sports for my Alfa 156 sportwagon.
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Solid suspension parts equal a fun car to drive regardless of looks.
@AdamAus85 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas Yeah sorry man don't mean anything by the looks. I mean more the value of the car vs how much those shocks are.
@GarageBuiltHondas 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@browifgopro 5 жыл бұрын
Does 89 sedan work with a 90 sedan?
@GarageBuiltHondas 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@browifgopro 5 жыл бұрын
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks for the quick response:)
@leonibs5034 4 жыл бұрын
Only good for looks track performance is terrible the shock fully lifts off the springs in hard corners and lets the car raise up with body roll. get full body coilovers much better performance keeps the car planted.
@GarageBuiltHondas 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I haven't had one issue and they feel excellent. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndZkfpmix7TWkoE.html
@TheXXXskater1 6 жыл бұрын
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