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Best Cordless Impact Driver

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A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz

A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz

Жыл бұрын

Article:www.toolboxbuzz.com/head-to-h...
** CORRECTION ** The Makita tools were incorrectly weighed with their batteries. A sharp reader alerted us to this error and we corrected it iin the article. The final rankings changed: 3rd Best Impact is Makita 40V, 4th Makita 18v and 5th was Flex.
Purchase Links:
Bosch - acmetools.pxf.io/AWWV5D
Dewalt - acmetools.pxf.io/Y99mQm
Festool - acmetools.pxf.io/g11PBr
Flex - acmetools.pxf.io/nLLkx6
Metabo HPT 36v - acmetools.pxf.io/KjjKmn
Metabo LT - acmetools.pxf.io/WqqaVM
Makita 40v - acmetools.pxf.io/9ggG6W
Milwaukee - acmetools.pxf.io/m55V2Z
Makita 18v - acmetools.pxf.io/zNN3O7
Hilti - homedepot.sjv.io/R55jN2
Ridgid - homedepot.sjv.io/eKKGWj
Ryobi - homedepot.sjv.io/xkkPG5
Kobalt - lowes.sjv.io/y22512
Metabo LTX - acmetools.pxf.io/WqqaVM
Metabo HPT 18DC - acmetools.pxf.io/eKKM6j
Metabo HPT 18DBDL - acmetools.pxf.io/m5537X
In our Best Cordless Impact Driver Head-To-Head test, we’ve selected 19 full-size impact drivers from a wide range of manufacturers.
BOSCH
• Model: GDX18V-1860CB25
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,400 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,100 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,860 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.6 Lbs
• Price: $99.00
DEWALT
• Model: DCF850B
• Voltage: 20v
• RPMs: 0-3,250 RPMs
• BPMs: 3,800 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,825 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.1 Lbs
• Price: $149.00
FEIN
• Model: ASCD18-200 W4 Select
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-1,500 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-3,000 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,859 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.20 Lbs
• Price: $308.00
Festool
• Model: TID18
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,200 RPMs
• BPMs:
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,593 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.12 Lbs
• Price: $ 219.00
FLEX
• X1371A-Z
• Voltage: 24v
• RPMs 0-4,000 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,450 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,500 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.7 Lbs
• Price: $159.00
Hart
• Model: HPID26
• Voltage: 20v
• RPMs: 0-3.000 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-3,000 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,200 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.5
• Price: $77.86
Hilti
• Model: SID6-22
• Voltage: 22v
• RPMs: 0-3,600 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,250 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,655 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.2 Lbs
• Price: $199.00
Kobalt
• Model: KID 124B-03
• Voltage: 24v
• RPMs: 0-3,100 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-3,800 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,000 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.4 Lbs
• Price: $149.00 (Kit only)
Makita 18V
• XDT19
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-2,700 RPM
• BPMs: 0-3,200 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,330 In-Lbs
• Weight: 3.31 Lbs
• Price: $219.00
Makita 40V
• Model: GDT01Z
• Voltage: 40v
• RPMs: 0-3,700 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,400 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,950 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.76 Lbs
• Price: $217.00
Metabo 18v LTX
• Model: 602396520
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-2,900 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,000 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,800 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.1 Lbs
• Price: $179.99
Metabo 18V LT
• Model: 602397850
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,050 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-3,750 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,400 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.6 Lbs
• Price: $131.99
Metabo HPT 18V
• Model: WH18DBDL2C
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-2,900 RPM
• BPMs: 0-4,000 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,832 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.9 Lbs
• Price: $129.00
Metabo HPT 18V
• Model: WH18DC
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,700 RPM
• BPMs: 0-4,000 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,859 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.0 Lbs
• Price: $129.00
Metabo HPT 36V
• Model: WH36DBG
• Voltage: 36v
• RPMs: 0-2,900 RPM
• BPMs: 0-4,100 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,859 In-Lbs
• Weight: 4.1 Lbs
• Price: $189.00
Milwaukee
• Model: 2953-20
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,900 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-4,400 BPMs
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,000 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.24 Lbs
• Price: $149.00
Rigid
• Model: R862312
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-3,400 RPM
• BPMs: 0-4,300 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 2,400 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.26 Lbs
• Price: $139.00
Ryobi
• Model: PSBID02B
• Voltage: 18v
• RPMs: 0-2,900 RPMs
• BPMs: 0-3,800 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,920 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.55 Lbs
• Price: $119.00
Skil
• Model: ID6739B-40
• Voltage: 20v
• RPMs: 0-2,700 RPMs
• IPMs: 0-3,400 BPM
• IN-LBS Torque: 1,800 In-Lbs
• Weight: 2.47 Lbs
• Price: $69.99
Cordless Impact Driver Evaluation Criteria
For our Best Cordless Impact Driver Head-To-Head test we tried to develop tests that focus on productivity and performance that relate to PRO users in the field.
We did not consider run-time. We feel that most of the major tool brands that are offering full-size impact drivers are using good lithium-ion battery packs along with brushless motors. In most situations, these tools will run long enough for the average worker to complete his or her work in a workday. Furthermore, if the user owns two or more battery packs, it’s extremely unlikely they will drain one battery before the second one is charged and ready to work.
:
Cordless Impact Testing - 7 Scoring Criteria
1. Performance Test-
2. Performance Test
3. Performance Test
4. Applied Torque Test
5. Ergonomics
6. Features
7. Size and Weight
8. Best Value
9. Price

Пікірлер: 480
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
*** CORRECTION *** The Makita tools were incorrectly weighed with their batteries. A sharp reader alerted us to this error and we corrected it iin the article. The final rankings changed: 3rd Best Impact is Makita 40V, 4th Makita 18v and 5th was Flex. We appreciate your input and believe in extreme ownership! Thanks for your input guys!!
@davidr9876
@davidr9876 Жыл бұрын
This should be pinned to the top
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
@@davidr9876 it is
@manuelsnow2276
@manuelsnow2276 Жыл бұрын
What about HP brushless RYOBI if u run it with the 9amp batterys it eats DeWalt and Makita I've test it at work cause my boys at work are Makita and DeWalts but only if u use the 9amps on the HP line
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video. We of course have some torque testing opinions, but it's obviously not the #1 consideration on these tools anyways. Fantastic work
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Oh look you are here, hi :)
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Yes sir - thanks for the comment
@danielfalk8702
@danielfalk8702 Жыл бұрын
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@danielfalk8702
@danielfalk8702 Жыл бұрын
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@steffendetrick
@steffendetrick Жыл бұрын
These are the best, tool reviews, hands-down on the Internet.
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 Жыл бұрын
Using the urethane instead of wood is such a great decision, and makes for a very scientific test. Great job!
@saiiiiiii1
@saiiiiiii1 Жыл бұрын
As objective as your testing is, it really only tells half of the story. I do own the Gen4 Milwaukee and the Makita LXT and 95% of the time I grab the LXT, because it's so much nicer and smoother to use. Appreciate all the effort of the TBB team 👍
@TheOMEGANOX
@TheOMEGANOX Жыл бұрын
I run the 3 latest Japanese makitas and gave away the Milwaukee for the same reason. For the biggest structural screws I use the TD002 and I can leave it on the highest speed because the trigger is so precise, the Milwaukee on speed 3 is almost uncontrollable. Why would I care if it drives big lags a second or 2 faster? I find when I’m running headlocks or GRK’s or big Simpson LVL screws I’m trying to be super precise on angle and thread path cause you only get one chance to get those perfect.
@igorkuzmanovski5552
@igorkuzmanovski5552 Жыл бұрын
I’m in a similar situation I have 2 makita impact drivers the dewalt in the test and the gen 4 Milwaukee however I tend to grab the m12 surge first then the makita if they are larger fasteners. The makita drivers are very smooth in the hand compared to the vibration from gen4 and the dewalt is very noticeable
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also own some Dewalt, M18, M12 and various makita models. If I'm not grabbing the M12s from my service bag it's the Makitas hands down. They make the best drills and impacts.
@trentroberdeau6399
@trentroberdeau6399 Жыл бұрын
@@evictioncarpentry2628 just your opinion. Lol I love
@trentroberdeau6399
@trentroberdeau6399 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOMEGANOX lol, I found the opposite to be true….
@nicko5945
@nicko5945 Жыл бұрын
Can’t thank you and your team enough for all the work you put into these comparison videos!! They are some of my very favorite tools videos period and this is another home run.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
thanks for letting us know - we appreciate the support
@NextLevelCraftworks
@NextLevelCraftworks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this test! I have both Dewalt and Milwaukee. Gotta say i love the 1st setting on Dewalt because it just works so well with small fasteners. On the other hand i love my Milwaukee when i need to drive a bunch of 3 inch or bigger screws fast. Dewalts compact head also is outstanding for those hard to reach places.
@shawnlachance4427
@shawnlachance4427 10 ай бұрын
Best impact tool test ever! Just a thorough , informative, straight forward tool test. Fantastic! You guys leave nothing out, content such as this really sets the bar for other run of the mill creators out there. This is now my go-to channel when researching any/all tools I plan to purchase in the future. I can't emphasize enough how well thought out and informative your content is. Well done ! thank you for your time and effort creating stellar videos that are very valuable to everyone!! Out of the park
@bearkawiboy6246
@bearkawiboy6246 Жыл бұрын
Great job. I really like how you tried to eliminate the substrate inconsistency as best as possible. I’ve mentioned that issue a lot on other tool test videos that use wood to compare tools. Wood is very inconsistent and produces inaccurate results many times.
@iamnucleus
@iamnucleus Жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive tool test i have ever viewed. great balanced between real world function and controlled environment! Great job guys!!!💥
@CrookedSkew
@CrookedSkew Жыл бұрын
Hot damn, now that's some line up! In fact, the most comprehensive coverage given all the brands. Chapeau my good men and women! Another solid review. Your giving Todd at Project Farm a heck of a run for his money with those rigs : ) Loving the plastic sheeting with a homogeneous structure for comparison. No surprises on the Milwaukee coming out tops. They've appeared to have solid drills and as you say, they care about them enough to update regularly. As long as they don't turn the mechanical reverse switch into an electronic button like their Festool CXS competitor!
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 Жыл бұрын
C’est la Freak
@VineV-Dutch
@VineV-Dutch Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! Another impact driver comparison. Love it! Good to see your channel is going so many years already. Now there's an additional added value: comparisons over time, model after model to see what changes between brands and who keeps up supporting platforms and which brand wants you to change batteries and milk you like a cow financially. Now, now we're getting somewhere!!! Good for you Rob & crew. Greetings from the Netherlands
@randysmith9636
@randysmith9636 Жыл бұрын
While doing a complete garage rebuild at my moms last summer, siding, trim, shelving, etc. I bought her the Skil power core 20 tools (she wanted her own tools for around the house) and I was very impressed, especially for the money. I run Milwaukee at home and on the job site but she didn't need that level of tools. Not a single problem or was never under powered. Driving 2.5 - 3.5 screws, drilling 1/2 holes through 4×4. Cutting with both the reciprocating and circular saws. You do have to understand their "power core" system though. Even their cheaper use this battery technology, I did buy the best tool Skil offers. The reciprocating saw was 149 with saw, 4 amp battery, charger and the adapter for phone charging. Great battery life and the jump charging feature is nice. For the DIY, even every weekend user I highly recommend the SKIL brand. I also bought her the weed eater with quick attachment system and blower. Both was pretty impressive with the 4 amp battery.
@NWGR
@NWGR Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test Rob & crew! Very well done. The dewalt with a 1.7 powerstack is amazingly compact and light. That's my go-to.
@MongooseReflexes
@MongooseReflexes Жыл бұрын
These are the kinda tests that the consumers need! Thank you for all of your hard work!
@sidewinderam9m
@sidewinderam9m Жыл бұрын
I was just looking for a more recent video on impact drivers yesterday! Perfect timing! Thanks again!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@dirkslifeadvice5339
@dirkslifeadvice5339 9 ай бұрын
I ordered one of those hpt bolts. That thing is awesome. Definitely a joy to use.
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 Жыл бұрын
As a gardener, I don't use these tools very often, I use a Bosch GDX 18V - 200, and it does everything I need!
@adammcbride6159
@adammcbride6159 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! The information in this video is fantastic. Consumer reports has nothing on you and your crew! Great job!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!! ROB
@Stefan_Kawalec
@Stefan_Kawalec Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that given your dedication and thoroughness of these test you don't have 2M subscribers. As always, excellent video.
@poman8772
@poman8772 Жыл бұрын
Top notch reviews, the only channel I trust for tool reviews! Thanks Rob and team !
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
rhanks
@motowipeout5670
@motowipeout5670 Жыл бұрын
Epic review! I bought a Milwaukee Impact driver a few years back and just keep adding tools as I need to stay on their battery platform and have been pleased. I've used tools from a few of the other manufactures mentioned here and the all worked great too. As a DIY'er, I don't think you could make a bad choice from the group that you tested, just pick your price point and favorite color and pull the trigger. 🏁
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@HFRajuncajun
@HFRajuncajun Жыл бұрын
Awesome test. I love how the testing rigs just get better with each shootout.
@Joethetoolguy
@Joethetoolguy Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video! Most new impacts are so powerful and fast that I tend to go with comfort over everything.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe
@gts5930
@gts5930 Жыл бұрын
You guys are incredible! Loved your Battery mower shootout last year too. Thanks!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@brockhunter2021
@brockhunter2021 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review! I'm a dewalt guy, but every test you did was very well thought out. Keep up the great work.
@uprightcr2744
@uprightcr2744 Жыл бұрын
I ran milwaukees for a long time as a handyman. I did loads of work on that impact, and I love it. However, I started a finish carpentry business, and I switched over to makita. The makita impact and drill have incredible trigger control. They sound better and they have much less vibration and hand abuse.
@JimTom.
@JimTom. Жыл бұрын
i did the same. The Milwaukee impact drivers are too aggressive, especially with smaller screws, the trigger control is awful. Makita is simple and easy
@Jacob_Dwyer
@Jacob_Dwyer Жыл бұрын
I wore out an m18 Fuel Surge driver (7+ years, it just stopped working when you pull the trigger) and replaced it with an m12 surge. The hydraulics take care of the "big tool" problems (too much torque and noise) and now am in transition to Hilti Nuron. I don't have their impact driver, because my m12 is plenty, and relatively quiet. My first Fuel impact driver (gen 1, 3 speed without self-tapping mode) is still working fine, mostly because I stopped using it as it was too noisy and overpowered for indoor work.
@JimTom.
@JimTom. Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob_Dwyer That generation of Milwaukee was pretty reliable. Thats interesting about the M12 you bought, their 12v line is really good. The m18 Fuel stuff are super powered and fast, which is why it draws so many people in, but they arent built for longevity. You cant have it all i guess
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of Milwaukee impact in 2 trucks and they’ve taken a beating - still going
@Meme-zc4cw
@Meme-zc4cw Жыл бұрын
I bought into the M12 line for the finish carpentry stuff. I am a DeWalt guy but their XR stuff is too aggressive for finish stuff. M12 has less power and seems to work better.
@superspeeder
@superspeeder Жыл бұрын
Great test, as usual!!! I’d really like to see an impact driver test centered on small-to-medium size fasteners. It seems most tests are on large-ish fasteners which is great for certain applications, but I personally rarely use screws longer than 3” and feel many folks are likely in a similar situation. As the hammer and spring mechanisms are wound tighter and tighter to apply more static torque, the drivers get less controllable on the most often used fasteners. Perhaps this is why I like hydraulic impacts a lot, especially when noise is considered.
@cmelft2463
@cmelft2463 Жыл бұрын
Owned metabo hpt (hitachi/hikoki here in Australia) since 2010,I still have batteries from 2010 and 2012 still holding charge with daily use (electrician), only ever killed two drills, one the apprentice dropped it off a 2 story scissor lift, the other left in the rain over night- ive upgraded before the tools have ever died. Ive got mates that love milwaukee but have had battery fails within 1-2 years, and drill/impact driver trigger fails within 6months of ownership (one of ours worker's drill trigger failed within the first month with light duties - Not used in dusty environments etc) One strong thing to consider before purchase as well with these brands is the other tools they have as part of the range that utilise the same battery as that will help determine what you may require later on down the track.
@JoeTheDIY
@JoeTheDIY Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff guys. Very useful. Thanks for the hard work.
@Jeff-rk8hq
@Jeff-rk8hq Жыл бұрын
Good test rob. I love the metabo hpt triple hammer and the trip hammer bolt which is the gen 2 and the rest of the multivolt gen 2 tools are already in the works and many are already out in Japan just waiting on em to hit the states.
@MovingToMnPro
@MovingToMnPro Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much. As always, you guys do it best. Please please please do a cordless shop-vac shootout next. Ridgid has new NXT vacs, including a sweet 3 gallon unit, and Milwaukee has a brushless packout and a big new 6/9 gallon one.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@annquach6613
@annquach6613 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the work which went into this video
@Bornintheseat
@Bornintheseat Жыл бұрын
Best impact review on youtube for certain. I really appreciate the brand coverage and efforts made to eliminate variables. When I choose a tool though, like you said my biggest consideration is probably durability, and I'd love to see you guys find a way to test that too.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@coltonjacobs5383
@coltonjacobs5383 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive review
@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 Жыл бұрын
I'm very happy with Milwaukee products, from the M12 Fuel line to the M18 Fuel line, I have the other brands like Ridgids and Dewalt, but the Milwaukee brand outlast them all. In most of my impact driving I use the M12 Fuels and the M12 drills as well, waiting to upgrade from XRP De Walt oscillating tool to the M12 Milwaukee Oscillating .
@markk3948
@markk3948 6 ай бұрын
Yeah out lasts and most power
@d1986ben
@d1986ben Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reviews. I’m tied into bosch and overall happy with them. The past 3 years they’ve actually looked like they are trying to compete in the North American market by expanding their offerings. Also, they do a really good job with their warranty service.
@ryu-ken
@ryu-ken Жыл бұрын
They're good and last long but just underpowered as this channel and others have shown. I love the ergonomics too
@joerghoppe8427
@joerghoppe8427 Жыл бұрын
Thank You very much for conducting such a comprehensive test. I like the balance between hard facts and subjective, yet important, impressions. Very useful and interesting to watch. It is also a testament to how far technology has come with such tools and what excellent quality and variety is available at various price points. Greetings to you and the team from a fan in Northern Germany!
@luckynyaa2826
@luckynyaa2826 Жыл бұрын
All were good. Thank you!
@ryanmontgomery6248
@ryanmontgomery6248 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison- thank ToolBox crew for all your effort. Love these tests- amazing to see how far these tools have advanced over the past few years. Plenty of great options available.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AF-O6
@AF-O6 Жыл бұрын
Yep. With $2K invested in batteries, it’s hard for me to consider anything beyond my brand
@isaiahsexton1423
@isaiahsexton1423 Жыл бұрын
amazing work on the video i just wish the new hercules impact and dewalt dcf845 were included but i know they don’t always send in the tools but besides that i loved it
@TarekNicoMaxim
@TarekNicoMaxim 8 ай бұрын
its incredible how precise this test was made! much respect! i'd love to see how the td173 would score in this
@IMPACT-NATION
@IMPACT-NATION Жыл бұрын
Tool testing at its best right here!!! Yeah the 6 yr gap from the last video…. A lot of new technology to say the least. A bunch of powerhouses in the lineup gentlemen. Always a pleasure Rob. My best to you and the team that bring these videos to the channel
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
ditto sir and thanks
@TacticalThib
@TacticalThib Жыл бұрын
Wish they would have used the stacked lithium batteries 😂
@TacticalThib
@TacticalThib Жыл бұрын
Go team red brother 🙌💪💪
@IMPACT-NATION
@IMPACT-NATION Жыл бұрын
@@TacticalThib 👌😂
@IMPACT-NATION
@IMPACT-NATION Жыл бұрын
@@TacticalThib no denying M18 fuel has been putting in work going on a decade💯✊. One of the most heavyweight impacts on the scene
@strizzy239
@strizzy239 Жыл бұрын
Wow, by the numbers the Milwaukee really stood out from the next. I love mine. The new lights are awesome and i use it as a flashlight all the time in dark places when it’s sitting next to me. Hate that the light goes off so quick though. Would be really cool if they added a switch like the metabo? I believe it was. I like that. Or even like 8 seconds would be nice. It goes off real quick.
@LKN4WAR
@LKN4WAR Жыл бұрын
Great video content. I own over 20 milwaukee tools. Had a previous gen impact drvr die out of the blue, lightly used. Got it swapped for a dispaly model at HD, they no longer do this.🙄 Milwaukee sucks on upholding their warranty. I bought a 2145 site light with One key, only for home use, maybe used 4 times total, it Sat in a room for maybe 6-9 months unused, I go to get it and see that from every lens screw location there were cracks all through the lens. Obviously someone in china over torqued the screws. Light was never dropped or abused still looks new. STILL under warranty they refused to replace the plastic lens at an authorized service center. They just don't give AF. This light is still 300 dollars on Acme and Home depot. The one key no longer connects to the phone also. Ive had a few milwaukee tools ive had to file the openings to get the milwaukee batteries from jamming in them. Tolerances were way too tight. I still buy some milwaukee tools but have added Dewalt, Mak, Fein, Ryobi, and Snap On battery systems a while back. I think the dewalt head size leading is significant for tight spaces.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter Жыл бұрын
Awesome tests. I just buy based on yellow tags these days. I have 3 metabo impacts and a DeWalt 887 I paid less than $130 total for in Lowes. Not bad for 4 impacts. Tens of thousands of screws later I have no issues. I do wish the Metabos had a quick change collet though. I found the 18v triple hammer to be as strong or stronger than the 36v. I thought that was interesting.
@Meme-zc4cw
@Meme-zc4cw Жыл бұрын
The 887 is my workhorse too. I have dropped that thing off decks, in pouring rain and mud, and that damn thing just won't die. Best $130 I ever spent.
@ckone671
@ckone671 Жыл бұрын
awesome review guys!!!!
@TrixieDK
@TrixieDK Жыл бұрын
Great test. Thanks a lot!
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu 5 ай бұрын
The one I go to and really like the mixture of finese and power is Bosch. It does not destroy the work as the Dewalt I also used for a while, it feels great and has some nice tricks up the sleeve.
@pumupuku
@pumupuku 11 ай бұрын
Great review, subscribed and liked.
@Metroid-rg9pn
@Metroid-rg9pn Жыл бұрын
Why hasn't this channel blown up yet? They've been doing the best tool tests for years
@free2chasehappy
@free2chasehappy Жыл бұрын
Amazing work you and your team have accomplished! Milwaukee puts out amazing tools, and this is me saying as a Dewalt fan. Funny enough, I keep checking out Makita as I recently been involved with more woodworking projects!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@gric111
@gric111 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos would love to see an updated dust extractor video
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@user-bw5xf3yr3m
@user-bw5xf3yr3m Жыл бұрын
They put so much work into this channel they work as a team because they have a good leader, wish my family understood leadership and working together.
@2chipped
@2chipped Жыл бұрын
Great job guys...again! As a pro user, and as cordless as possible since 2004,I like others have a my own algorithm . It's based on price,freebies/promotios, sales,quantity of tool lineup, warranty ,life span,etc. A single tool must be 3X better than my current platforms to join my tool bag. M12 is my preferred set for weight savings,next is Makita 18,followed by m18. M12 surge is lightweight and quiet,unfortunately 12v has poor performance for tools that rely only on circular torque. Drills and circular saws do not have the power to cut/holewsaw plywood for cabinet installs. So both are Makita 18v. Omt, hackzall,impact wrench, bandsaw,caulkgun,greasegun,inspection camera,23G pinner, die grinders,ratchets,and surge will always have a place in the bag ...even at 12v.
@2chipped
@2chipped Жыл бұрын
And have added the Bosch 12 orbital sander,planer,and future orbital sander. Because they were 3x better than the m18 sander,and the only 12v planer at the time of purchase.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your algorithm - interesting!
@scottschabacker3539
@scottschabacker3539 Жыл бұрын
great video, purchased the Milwaukee..thanks!
@iaov
@iaov Жыл бұрын
Excellent!!
@Panos_shoryuken
@Panos_shoryuken 2 ай бұрын
Excellent job!!!!
@Natey1600
@Natey1600 6 ай бұрын
loved this video
@johnschroeder1912
@johnschroeder1912 Жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do a head to head on best warranty. Ridgid warranty has become a nightmare. I had a milwaukee tool stop working and all I had to do is fill out a form online, print a free shipping label and drop it off to be shipped. I think I got it back in a 7 days.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! we looked into it too much fine print and different requirements to wade thru
@jmvediting
@jmvediting Жыл бұрын
Terrific video keep up the good work !!!!
@martinmccloskey4206
@martinmccloskey4206 Жыл бұрын
wow what a review best ever love the material you used as wood replacement...been wanting that for ages,i use the festool for kitchens little bit holder is my favorite thing ever dont need the super power,,172 makita is my all time fav thow
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SamW604
@SamW604 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks.
@snodir
@snodir Жыл бұрын
I wish u added the Hercules (from HF) impact driver
@barkingshark6413
@barkingshark6413 Жыл бұрын
21st! Great informative video… again. Thank you.
@duncdunc76
@duncdunc76 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Too bad my Dewalt 850 just broke on me the other day when using it on impacting a smal 3/8 inch nut onto a peice of exercise equipment I was repairing. I've been a Dewalt platform guy for a long time using their tools professionally in the building trades and have praised their saws and the 885 impact up and down for years as I've used and abused them and they just keep going. However I'm quite disappointed with my newer Dewalt impact drivers. My 850 just broke where the motor spins but the bit shaft doesn't turn. And my 840 and my 887s which replaced my worn but still working 885s all have collet issues where bits will not release quite often. At this point I'm starting to worry about a possible slide in Dewalts production quality. Maybe I'm just unlucky. I certianly don't want the quality issues to be true because I've been a Big Dewalt fan for over a decade because their tools have served me well and helped me to earn a living. But to be honest I'm a bit worried at this point.
@Bamamike223
@Bamamike223 Жыл бұрын
Great job guys. 1 question: Why not put the Hercules Brushless in the lineup?
@feralcruz2093
@feralcruz2093 Жыл бұрын
Love the new gen 4 milwaukee and I still keep my gen 3 around just in case. Great comparisons and testing 🎉
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Right on
@Aaron86v
@Aaron86v Жыл бұрын
Awesome work, I would have liked to have seen the Milwaukee Surge Impact Gun here, but im not exactly sure what the differences are between the impact you showed.
@MattC86
@MattC86 Жыл бұрын
Great video… BUT you guys left out the Kobalt XTR variant and only used the 2nd gen Kobalt variant? Wondering why you did that, as it’s regarded as one of the best out there. I have the Metabo HPT 36v and the XTR driver and prefer it out of the 2. Thanks for the review though, it was awesome to watch!
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 Жыл бұрын
Wow what test! I’d like to see a 12v comparison next for drill drivers and impacts. It’s a product that changed my battery platform… to M12. I was using dewalt 12v, but it’s brushless driver power settings has faded over the year of ownership.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
we did one
@rtgray7
@rtgray7 Жыл бұрын
Great job! How fun was that! I own a few of these on this list. I do wish you could have included two of mine that I have come to love: Kobalt XTR and the NEW Hercules. Thanks again for a great job!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Next time!
@txvet7738
@txvet7738 Жыл бұрын
I jumped on the new Hercules impact as an impulse buy. As my first Harbor Freight tool I’m happy with it and glad I bought it cause the price/popularity is going up!
@TacticalThib
@TacticalThib Жыл бұрын
Brilliant guys only thing why no stacked lithium batteries the flex would have been a different tool with the 6.0 it comes with in a kit but it was an even playing field, and that's awesome!!! I'm not understanding how Ryobi won the torque test or DeWalt for that matter I have these two tools and assure you there far from the most powerful 😂.. let me stop and thank you guys for all of your hard work 🙏
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 Жыл бұрын
I had the ryobi hp and I know it's not a drill driver but I used it with a spade bit to drill holes to wire a house and it performed well but after the job it wouldn't keep a consistent rpm even if the trigger is held to its max. The rpms go up and down
@k-nutl6386
@k-nutl6386 Жыл бұрын
Good vid !!
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rob I've been waiting since the last head to head impact driver test for this one thanks so much. Now it's time for a hammer drill head to head
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Probably leaf blowers and vacuums next
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 Жыл бұрын
@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz whatever it is u guys do a great job. With all the new generation of tools out now I'm eager to see these head to head tests
@Gingernaut7
@Gingernaut7 10 ай бұрын
Ive got the Dewalt and it is perfect for me. I carry about 7 different tools in one bag and size, weight, power, and ruggedness are critical for me. You could get different results simply based on what you need. My buddy does sheet metal and uses Milwaukee because it suits his needs and he doesnt carry many tools around with him all at once and doesnt change bits often. I need to save weight and space without sacrificing capability. Speed is really a low priority, and rugedness and dependability is critical.
@geoffreycunningham7126
@geoffreycunningham7126 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I appreciate the time and effort you all put into this. I do however wish you would have put the stacked lithium batteries for those that offer it into the running.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
We typically run what comes in their kits
@geoffreycunningham7126
@geoffreycunningham7126 Жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter The title says best impact driver. Both DeWalt and Flex both have new battery technologies that would have blown the competition away and also come as a kit. So basically flex and DeWalt get punished because the other brands don't have that technology yet.
@EvoKey
@EvoKey Жыл бұрын
Monster love frome here. Great review and test. Love all your efforts to make data and true results.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SkilledLabor
@SkilledLabor Жыл бұрын
Nice video and lineup👌
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@bret9741
@bret9741 Жыл бұрын
Man I love the ejected bit. I just put my hand in front of it or the case to catch.
@e.z.e.932
@e.z.e.932 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done! What a great review. My only nitpick is regarding Kobalt - I wish the Kobalt XTR impact driver was also tested along with the gen 2 Kobalt
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@exigauner
@exigauner Жыл бұрын
i have milwaukee, festool and makita impact driver. all 3 are good tools.
@WillLeingang
@WillLeingang Жыл бұрын
Guys, which impact drivers should we test? All of them! Love it!
@UltimateToolReviews
@UltimateToolReviews Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@alexv9569
@alexv9569 8 ай бұрын
Great video, I love my milwaukee gen 4, but it's definitely not built as well as the gen 3. It has a better chuck, but that's about it. I'm already on my 3rd 4th gen. As a garage door installer in FL, installing hurricane rated garage doors. I typically run over a hundred self tappers in an hour or two . Gen 4 just doesn't cut it for me, unfortunately.
@hanssteiner-nv3lf
@hanssteiner-nv3lf 7 ай бұрын
Give Bosch a try.
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 Жыл бұрын
The size of that Dewalt is downright impressive. That is some great engineering.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bret9741
@bret9741 Жыл бұрын
Rob. I don’t have as many tools as you all do…. I own a new construction and remodeling business. We’re small. Most of my trades are 1099. Along with being an airline captain, I’ve always had a passion for building very high quality homes. We actually behave a life time warranty for craftsmanship… never had a call for warranty where we messed up so far. Anyway I own the vast majority of Milwaukees M-18 and M-12 line. I also own festool sanders vacs and drywall sander. Currently running the Makita 36V 10” compound miter a 2020 model year. My main complaint on the Milwaukee is the batteries. They have a short warranty and the larger 12.0, 8.0 and 9.0 (the 9.0 were a short run production of about 2 years) they all die after a couple of years of use. I just threw 8 batteries into a recycle bin. Two 12.0, four 9.0, one 8.0 and one 6.0. Both 12.0 died a month after the warranty expired. They would charge to 3 bars and or would show a charging error flashing green / red. Neither battery had more than 100 charging cycles. The 9.0’s died within a 6 month period, all of them. Warranty replacements always are etched by Milwaukee stating “warranty battery” which looks like crap. Worse they All died again within 1-12 months of warranty expiration. Same issue with all of the large Milwaukee batteries. I keep the batteries on a work van (ford transit extended high cab) that is heated 24/7 my chargers and batteries are kept in an insulated charging cabinet. I have a small LED bulb that turns on when temperature drops below 6O degrees and it keeps the cabinet above 60 no matter what the temperature in winter. Now. I own makita 36v miter and track saw. I use these a lot. I’ve never had a single battery fail on the Makita. On the M-12 line of Milwaukee. I love these powerful light weigh tools. But the battery design is absolutely horrible. It’s difficult to remove the batteries and if using the high capacity battery (the “L” shape base) and if it’s dropped, it is very easy to break the base off from the stem. I’ve had to replace a half dozen of these batteries. We’re taking falls of anywhere between 3’-5’. It’s love feedback from everyone who have experience with the various pro tool lines. Leaning towards selling everything and starting with a new line of tools and battery group. I’m open to multiple lines and batteries. It’s not absolutely imperative to keep a common battery when you have a work shop and work van completely loaded with tools. I would like to keep the hand power tools like drills, impact, sawzalls, skill saws, concrete saw, grinders etc in the same line. Im ok with miter even track saws using a different battery. Also, on the light weight 12v tools, it can also be a different line. I’ve been impressed with Makita 40v line. But wow… they are super expensive. I really want the highest quality build and good performance. I’d like these tools to last until I retire in 12 years. What Id really like to see is Rob make a video on “if all my tools were stolen”…. Scenario what would I replace them all with. That could be a series of 4-5 videos. Problem is it might make some of the manufacturers angry.
@recondax
@recondax 6 ай бұрын
Just my observation but I started with the Ridgid line about 10 years ago (I am a DYI person) with a impact driver and a drill (my work horse tools) with 2 1.5A batteries. One of the two 1.5A batteries still good strong. The other one was not wanting to hold a charge. But after getting one of the new chargers Ridgid have out and putting that battery on that charger, the battery was able to be reconditioned and now holds a charge. Also, when I want new batteries, I get the two battery pack that can be a seasonal sale item. I have none to very little trouble with my Ridgid tools over the years. I have added two corded saws (the morter saw has been exposed to some rain but still going strong), one corded router (fixed and plunge bases), and numerous battery operated tools.
@ToolHombre
@ToolHombre Жыл бұрын
I still love my Milwaukee Surge even though it delivers power a bit differently than a traditional anvi impactl. Even if some applications it wouldn't be as fast, I can use it indoors or right near a neighbor's house and it's a relaxing experience. I'll sacrifice a second or 2 per job for that alone.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
me too
@TheOMEGANOX
@TheOMEGANOX Жыл бұрын
You guys both really need to try any of the 3 latest Japanese market makitas, or like me buy all 3. You’ll never want to touch anything else. It’s really a Rolex vs Timex comparison.
@jps101574
@jps101574 Жыл бұрын
I've had mine since 2016 and I wouldn't consider trading it for any of these traditional impacts even if they perform better.
@baseballdude8491
@baseballdude8491 Жыл бұрын
The old and new Metabo HPT' triple hammers have been our go to impact drivers replacing our Milwaukees and Makita both due to real world use , price, warranty etc for the last 4-5yrs Too many tests just in raw power to drive large fasteners that we use other tools for that are better than an impact driver and would significantly lessen the lifetime of even the most powerful impact drive(Ie two burned up Milwaukee's we have doing just that)
@The40Glock1
@The40Glock1 Жыл бұрын
My triple hammer is my favorite impact driver to use over the dewalt
@user-jw1fp8vl8e
@user-jw1fp8vl8e Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@mieciubimber9404
@mieciubimber9404 Жыл бұрын
which model has the least vibration?
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great unbiased h2h once again! You're setting the bar for what real comparison tests should be. My winner is the DCF850 paired with a powerstack battery because size and weight is the most important part for me.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Good choice
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what an awesome test, thank you a lot! Btw makitas also have a flashlight mode, you put the selector in the middle position and press the trigger to enter it and again to exit it. Also some tools are short but have a wide head, and some have a more narrow head for a better approach angle, that is also a factor :)
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Yes, they do and apparently, I breezed over that bullet. Both Makitas are4 solid tools!!!
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter np, thank you a lot and can't wait for the next one!
@peterryan7340
@peterryan7340 Жыл бұрын
​@ConcordCarpenter the Makitas are one handed bit install too Rob
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
@@peterryan7340 he did say that though :)
@jeffalan6339
@jeffalan6339 Жыл бұрын
ACME tool in my area, has salesman that isn't pushy he listens to your needs, gives tool demo without the pressure. I see only pros shopping at ACME.. Yet prices are competitive or less than Lowes and Home Depot. It is worth the money to buy bar tool in your budget. Unlike the black and decker drills few months to a year. Bought a yellow drill corded ( DeWalt) and red cordless (Milwaukee) Both are pushed to their limits. Over 15 years old still at it. I go by economics. Price spent verses the longevity. My Milwaukee 350 used hard not abused 15 still doing it. But hart from Walmart a friend bought one to mess around, it lasted one hike stopped drilling. He took it apart had plastic gears, they stripped. Imagine that a less than 100 $ drill failed. Tools, optics and audio you get what you pay for. Good job Rob and crew
@josephmerz2666
@josephmerz2666 5 ай бұрын
Can you put attention on collet wobble ,how much the bit moves back and forth .I find alot of wobble greatly frustrates putting in long screws with an ext .Jjust a 6" extention on some of my impacts can be a problem with a 3" screw .using a longer ext with a lot of wobble is not productive or easy .
@MadLadsAnonymous
@MadLadsAnonymous Жыл бұрын
Rob, I must've missed comments on trigger sensitivity & smoothness. How did the Makita 40V fare against the Festool? How's the Flex trigger, since nobody else seems to talk about it? As always, some of the most honest and thorough testing anywhere. Cheers.
@ConcordCarpenter
@ConcordCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Festool is amazing, MAKITA TOO
@tslonaker4609
@tslonaker4609 Жыл бұрын
Can a battery operated impact driver be used to remove lug nuts from a tire? If so how long will the battery last while doing so?
@davidlanham99
@davidlanham99 Жыл бұрын
I want to know which common blades to stock for a major Depression at which point I would use them for currency to buy things. What are the top 2 or 3 blades that you would want to buy without spending a lot of money that would get the job done? You know, the ones that, when blades are scarce and they are costing $100 instead of $15, that you would say "I have to have one of those". I think when everyone is unemployed they will be hoarding wood, doing projects themselves, working on the house, repairing fences and chicken coups to raise some of their own food, and perhaps doing part time work building things and repairing. New blades seem to be the thing that everyone will be looking for. I'm also interested in hand saws and tree limb saws. I am looking to stock several pallets of only the most common, most sought after blades to store in my spare room. And do you know where to buy pallets of blades wholesale? Thank you!
@orijimi
@orijimi Жыл бұрын
What the hell? Your guys' findings with the Freak are the reverse of anyone else.
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