Thanks so much! Agreed, its a surprisingly good sounding cymbal!

Totally agreed!

I second that emotion for that sound that carrying the whole band!

Thanks Nax!

Agreed, and thank you!!!

I literally play them on every gig I have

Thanks, glad you are enjoying it!!

Martí! Gracias mi amigo... Intento jugar como tú!

Alternatively, a modern equivalent like the agop 30th anniversary rides

Love this idea… definitely can’t afford one, but if someone has one I’d love to compare them!

I didn’t actually know that… it has not been re-worked, but it will be soon!! 😄

I may be wrong but I thought the vintage Avedis (not called "A" series in the 60's - I know, I was there) Zildjian cymbals were all machine hammered and this was the reason the jazz artists at the time ordered their "K" series through the Gretsch drum dealerships who had exclusive rights to importing them at the time. "A" have always been brighter than "K" Zildjian's. Please check on this. Thanks.

Hey Oliver! Those are called Cymbal Chiefs and Grombals. Here's a link to get them! music-lives.com/store/p9/cymbalchief/cymbals/cymbalstand/drums/drumsticks/grombals/cymbalsupport/foampads/feltpads.html

@@thebetterdrummer Awesome!! Thank you so much

Ha, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the sub!

Hey Xander, its something called a Cymbal Chief/Grombal! Check it out, great product

you'll never know what those cymbals sounded like...they were mostly 509's A's and newish K's...all various weights and sizes depending on the player...plus the players touch and stick choice, plus the room, vintage mics and preamps...filtered down to vinyl...

​​@@bryanherward4679 I said the sounds from the recordings, which we do actually know about, more or less

@@ruffryder13 OK let me clarify...you won't find one ride that will sound like all of your favorite recordings. But, you can a ride that sounds close to 1-2 of them that have similar characteristics. Turkish K sounds can be found in Bosphorus, Soultone, Istanbul Agop and Memhet...etc. Zildjian Avedis reissue line will give you 50's A sounds...K Constantinople line for more specific jazz tones rooted in classic sounds, but not direct copies (Except for the Bounce rides) ...Kerope for classic K profiles. Don't forget...flat rides, dark rides, dry rides..and swishes... After going through a ton of cymbals, I realized it was futile to look for "my tone", instead, I just followed the recipe of a lot the players I was watching...14" New Beats, 19" Beautiful Baby for left side ride...a 22" K con main ride (in my case, a Medium...ala Peter Erskine) and a 22 swish...splashes and crashes to taste. There's very little you cant do with this rig...funk, soul, blues, classic rock..big band. For more specific tones, look for recreations...The Take 5 ride, Philly Joe ride...Mel Lewis series from Istanbul...or copy the rig of your favorite modern player. Or...just find a used full Jeff Hamilton Bosphorus set.

Its definitely hard to find that sound, and it might be a good idea to be ok with never sounding like Philly Joe or Elvin or Joe Morello or Tony Williams... cause we'll never be them!!! 🤣

@@thebetterdrummer well said. Over the last few years, I've been through tons of cymbals and the better my playing has gotten, the more I sound like me regardless of the cymbals being played.

Who said we can't compare apples and oranges?! Ha, I agree but its still fun to listen to the differences in weirdly shaped metal circles

Those are great cymbals also!

30th anniversary are great cymbals, the 20” trad jazz complements the cymbal nicely also… maybe a traditional ride? Many options

The 20" definitely has its place, its a great sounding cymbal!!

Everyone has their own tastes! I haven't played many Mehmet cymbals

Try the Session series and Horacio El Negro Hernandes series. @@thebetterdrummer

Promosm?

3:44 but you could just scrub through the video instead of leaving this comment! :)