Just a thought. but I enjoyed the old videos where they got a budget and we followed them around as they picked up their gear and the thoughts behind it more.
@I.M.Guitar-Nerd4 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@FromTheMosh4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@ryanijyu5334 ай бұрын
I prefer that
@james-pw1tn4 ай бұрын
we had to suffer chappers though
@I.M.Guitar-Nerd4 ай бұрын
@@james-pw1tn Nobody forced you to watch.
@mattw.67265 ай бұрын
I love how you could see Ben die a little inside when John said "this has a gate". 🤣
@fundude3655 ай бұрын
The rest of his soul left with that string 😂
@TheSuperspyk5 ай бұрын
I love the captain and Pete but dear lord this is brilliant, love the banter!
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
Care to share your narcotics, mate? must be strong, if you enjoyed Ben's droning
@TheSuperspyk4 ай бұрын
@@Fukyourfeelingslol who hurt you? 😂 But nah, to each their own man, that’s the great thing about opinions - everyone’s got em For instance, it’s of my opinion that I’m not a fan of Flying V guitars, but I don’t find videos with one in the thumbnail and then comment about how I dislike them If I had narcotics, I’d share with you, seem like you could use a little, friend
@robertsay43745 ай бұрын
Perfect choice of jam riff - gotta love when Diamond Head gets used, real metalheads right there and great rigs for the price!
@stoneysdead6895 ай бұрын
I don't think they listen to Diamond Head- I think they heard this on Garage Days when Metallica covered it.
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
Too bad the ginger disaster couldn't play it to save his freckly flesh
@andrewpappas93114 ай бұрын
Absolute classic regardless
@johnconnearnmusic4 ай бұрын
Heard it on a compilation CD when I was about 8, solid riff
@marcostassi41415 ай бұрын
Ben's 100%, maybe it's just how it was recorded but his sound has so much more body to it
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
It's a distortion pedal going through a solid state amp. it has the tonal characteristics of a wet fart
@collinadams81654 ай бұрын
Neither rig used a solid state amp nor a distortion pedal...
@@FukyourfeelingslolI’m not seeing a solid state amp or a distortion pedal anywhere bud….
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
@@collinadams8165 Whooooahhh!!! all that gain must be coming from like... 1,000 valves!! OR IT'S A DISTORTION PEDAL, RUNNING THROUGH SOLID STATE TRANSFORMERS. you must be new to guitar, or amplification technology. go read up, and get back to me, dunce.
@peterlowes17215 ай бұрын
I don't normally like John and Ben's content but together they are brilliant. More of these two please.
@robyates1365 ай бұрын
seconded
@Simto5 ай бұрын
Ben = Better lead tone John = Better rhythm tone
@justinvzu015 ай бұрын
I think John sounded better all around, but that's 100% because the 5150 isn't EQ'd correctly.
@TheAndostro4 ай бұрын
yeah they can go with this rigs as rhythm and lead in band for sure
@zedski5 ай бұрын
Good to see some actual metal content. More plz :)
@Professional.Bro.7775 ай бұрын
The EQ pedal and noise gate are a must in any budget metal rig. They literally mask almost any downside
@PJBonoVox4 ай бұрын
LITERALLY
@lanceybaby4 ай бұрын
We all won with that contest, as an Anderton's metal vid is always a winner. Tbh there were bits from both rigs i loved... I use a micro dark myself so amp-wise I'm team Ben, loved his delay as well, but John's dinky and phaser were great. We want more of this stuff please Lee, and get some doom content too!
@badm0t0rf1nger5 ай бұрын
That string snap (& reaction) was perfect! :)
@ParsoJr4 ай бұрын
It’s funny, I went through this recently. I tried the pedals thing but couldn’t make the sound I wanted. So I scrapped the pedals, got a mkii 2x12 100w katana and presets have got every sound I could ever need, and gave me what I wanted
@StormdriverOne5 ай бұрын
To my ears, the Orange wins this one but it had a lot of help from the delay. I thought the EQ actually made it sound worse but overall, I liked it more. I might have gone with something a bit cheaper than the 5150 and added a few more effects. Also, this was good.
@emartinezr4 ай бұрын
Yeah the delay did it. Guess John could have scrapped the Phaser and got a delay instead.
@FromTheMosh4 ай бұрын
Ben was very ready for this haha. Great value in his rig.
@kaekayyy25545 ай бұрын
D I G I T A L J O N 🤖
@DMFChavez5 ай бұрын
I don't know why but I have to rewind that clip 10x every time they use it
@eduardovillegas54984 ай бұрын
These guys killed it!! Awesome video!! Hope to see this duo again!
@pinkyellowblue0074 ай бұрын
I like the 1x12 and mini head setup, there's lots of great mini heads these days you could use and have a range of tones and lot of gear in a small space.
@graemenewman73114 ай бұрын
Thr listener won this contest! Great content guys and as mentioned, amazing banter.
@frankswildyears22174 ай бұрын
Love It! The Metal the Battle the Rattle! Soundwise both are fine.I think rhythm wins over lead both times. Also Love the 4 Guys 1 Riff Thing. Bang on
@jeffgualandijr94204 ай бұрын
more of this please, don't get to hear a good ole Jackson wide freakin open every day.
@MrUmandMrEr4 ай бұрын
Entertaining video. Both sound like death. Mission accomplished.
@huskylove-6665 ай бұрын
So thought Jon would stomp this and really thought I wanted that 5150 amp myself. Surprised how bens rig cut through. Ben for me🎉
@ilikeheadcrabs3 ай бұрын
John with a Tiffany Rolex OP in a metal budget rig video is a vibe
@jonbourn4734 ай бұрын
Great video...need more of these. I prefer Ben's rig but love DJ's playing. BTW, I need more SOUNDS LIKE
@ereimul14444 ай бұрын
lets talk about the chemistry and their banter. made my day.
@justinvzu015 ай бұрын
5150 Iconic with a boost is all you need. The built in boost is such an important one too.
@JamieSlays4 ай бұрын
looks like me and the captain started a cool trend of playing am i evil haha :D
@mudwiser13915 ай бұрын
Wild Stallions!
@iisan14 ай бұрын
The “DIGITAL JOHN” introduction gets me every time hahahahaha
@user-fd6tg3rn4m5 ай бұрын
john wins great vid boys,
@user-fd6tg3rn4m5 ай бұрын
thanks!
@Diactia5 ай бұрын
@@user-fd6tg3rn4mDid you just reply to yourself lmao
@ayeapprove5 ай бұрын
My cheapest metal rig for 1000 (insert your currency here) would be this: Guitar: Ibanez RGA42FM or Ibanez RG421PB (both around 400 EUR) or if you don't need tuner pedal: FGN Boundary Odyssey (549 EUR which is a steal for a japanese guitar!) Pedals and Amp (=493 EUR): TC Electronic PolyTune 3 (good buffer and tuner) Tone City Kaffir Lime (great to control bass/treble) Mooer Micro PreAMP 005 (for really heavy stuff) or Mooer Micro PreAMP 012 (if you like boosted brown sounds) Mooer Baby Bomb 30 W (plenty loud to play with a drummer) Harley Benton G112 Celestion V30 (sorry but this is the cheapest way to get a decent V30 cab) This goes on a really small pedalboard and is the ultimate lightweight rig.
@Briansgate4 ай бұрын
I have an Orange Microdark, and a Jackson guitar. does that mean I win?
@antoniocoluccia63305 ай бұрын
I've had the Orange Micro Dark myself for years. He sounds incredible for his size, and it's really loud! But now it has become my live backup for the VX Kraken for half a year.😝
@neilweir-smith82284 ай бұрын
I reckon we win for getting to listen to that. The rigs complement each other really well to me. I don't prefer one over the other, they do slightly different things and work well together.
@dominicrobed4 ай бұрын
Ben’s rig rocked 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@ethanwittneben25844 ай бұрын
Ben because I have a micro dark and I'm biased
@user-oo3dv9vq8h5 ай бұрын
Ben I think sounded a bit rounder and the delay just did it for me. Brilliant video.
@johnconnearnmusic4 ай бұрын
Do I get extra points for farting with my hands like that?
@BackWoodsBillyCraftBeerReviews4 ай бұрын
Nice video 💯.... However I would personally like to see a video where we take the amp out of it... & Use a Multi Effects Pedal with Pedal Sims 🎤 mic Sims Amp cab Sim's And Speaker Sims Although I believe adding a pedal is good... Than the Guitar 🎸. IMO SPEAKERS are More important than the guitar. However The most important thing is the PLAYER... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶
@caileanhunt86795 ай бұрын
Great challenge, both good choices of gear. Ben wins for me, that dark terror is so good.
@joshmore71754 ай бұрын
The orange sounds so much better honestly. It's not even close
@demiran62794 ай бұрын
bring back the part which they choose the gear pleaseee. that was the most fun part!!
@alienprobe9744 ай бұрын
Love how they make fun of eachother! made me laugh
@matt6288joyce5 ай бұрын
I’m actually really surprised how much £1000 buys for this genre, both rigs were decent!
@zzombeyfanboy62235 ай бұрын
Oz should have been part of this
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
Yeah, swap Ben out of there
@IgorMuller5 ай бұрын
Looking for a begginers rig i would probably go Hotone Ampero II, its decent enough to keep you entertained and its conveniet. Everything else is going straight into guitar. I fould either get an FRFR monitor later or experiment with real amps, but if i am on a budget and i am fresh to guitar world (basically these two together are almost always the case) a reasonably priced modeller plus a decent guitar is the go for me.
@TheManToby5 ай бұрын
Beardy wins!! Although could of turned off the ts for the rhythm to help John out
@BadCat19904 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the sound of the Orange rig a little more. Probably due to the V30 loaded birch ply cab. My ears are so used and that sound and it just works.
@xStabizorz4 ай бұрын
Joyo Jackman II (Or the Dual Rec clone they do) 112 V30 cab subzero/hardly bentone Tone city TS clone Whatever other tone city pedals you want as well Epiphone Explorer, V, SG or Paul Sinple as
@DareBear20994 ай бұрын
Used to gig with a micro dark literally for years. That said, I preferred the 5150 for rhythm and Ben’s Micro Dark rig for leads
@bjorndirckx91725 ай бұрын
Well they sound best together to be fair , that orange rig is perfect for rhythm and the Evh was perfect for lead , Ben’s rig sounded thick and juicy in the mids what carry’s the heft of the sound and John’s is spikey and sort of thin sounding with a very high register fizzyness that cuts trough the mix like a battle axe .
@ArthurDent335 ай бұрын
More from these lads!!
@frjhracing5 ай бұрын
John wins rhythm and riffs, Bens wins lead/ melodic runs. Both will compliment eachother in a mix almost perfectly. Last thing you want is rhythm with a lot of delay or reverb. Bens will not chug nicely, and the lack of delay on Johns is a no go for a lead/solo
@emartinezr4 ай бұрын
That 5150 has a built-in Boost that brings up the tone for leads (adds Gain and Level). I think he should have tried it. It doesn't truly do what Delay does, but it brings up the leads nicely.
@staceysmith9674 ай бұрын
Would be happy with either of these rigs tbh but maybe Ben’s cuts through just a teensy bit more?
@lc47544 ай бұрын
Ben dover. John wins.
@glenproctor19995 ай бұрын
Great video! Played totally in the spirit of gearheads everywhere ("mine's bigger than yours"). 🤣
@stephanfuchs78915 ай бұрын
I'd choose a different guitar for sure.
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
It's the best choice, when you decide to focus your budget primarily on the amp. at least for what kids today think is "Metal". I'd rather pick a squire classic vibe and a Marshall dual super lead 20
@TheBlackham4 ай бұрын
Great vid….I’m totally not a metal guy but Ben and John are very watchable
@EmDzejFrom19805 ай бұрын
Ben won tone
@Fukyourfeelingslol4 ай бұрын
or maybe YOU ARE BEN
@dominiccrimmings69255 ай бұрын
These two should do more vids together - the banter is great 🙂 But what we really need to see is Nathan & Lee back doing bass stuff. Where's all the good bass stuff?
@DudeMcGuybro5 ай бұрын
They just had a video yesterday lol.
@andrewpappas93114 ай бұрын
Both rigs sounded awesome so it's really hard to choose, but if I did had to pick then I would probably say John's tone with that phaser just bumped it over the top for me. Absolutely brilliant
@bwgti4 ай бұрын
For the purposes of the video. The guy on the right's rig sounded better. But I have owned that Orange setup before - without the EQ pedal - and I was not happy with it. I question wether there is any chance you could hear it over a drum kit either. And the 5150 sounds way better in person. But whatever. I havn't watched one of these in years, back when Rabea was doing them. This was entertaining and fun
@abeal51884 ай бұрын
L’Orange. God Orange is so damn good.
@stanislavmigra4 ай бұрын
I was expecting this to be close, but John totaly owns this for me. That raspy agressive in your face sound but with great string separation, just wins.Bens sounds too squished to my ears.
@lancehall38974 ай бұрын
I prefer John’s guitar and amp; its a great start but delay, plate reverb would widen the gap over Ben’s rig for my metal rig preference.
@robyates1365 ай бұрын
Funny - I can almost replicate Ben's winning rig with things lying on my "spares shelf" including a King V JS32 (EMG upgraded) and a criminally under-used Micro Dark. I foresee a mini rig-build coming up ....
@johnwardle96675 ай бұрын
Servitude by Sylosis. I heard you!
@guntherabrahamowicz46594 ай бұрын
Ben, and the V, for the win! Plus, it's the only way John still gets a decent pint.
@lycancatt42484 ай бұрын
found it interesting that without the eq on the orange amp it really sounded better, but with the lead tone the eq was really necessary
@adamstein93334 ай бұрын
Under a thousand? You can do this under 500$ and sound spectacular! Will it have tubes? If You look used and very hard. The sound of Chinese manufactured pedals, preamps,speakers, power amps and guitars is absolutely stellar these days. For under a hundred You could have a set up floor and tour rig. If You can watch a video about intonation (really easy) You can have an Amazing Metal Guitar that no one would know how cheap You were cause You sound so awesome! Don’t get Me wrong I used to have to Have a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier, matching Oversized 4/12,Boutique tube screamers and the like, a Gibson Sg Standard and PRS S2 standard 24 satin for back up and I understand marketing and the consumer base, and the need to feel “professional”, it just isn’t worth it to Me these days because I can emulate it to a blindfolded challenge debate and debacle. Been doing this along time and In this case I would mix match these two rigs and have 600 ish left to spend! Well 400 with cab. Awesome even though I would totally not pick any of these choices. (Maybe the Jackson but different color) yep I’m bored but 100 percent being factual!
@JohnShalamskas4 ай бұрын
I was expecting John to use a Valeton multi effects pedal and a clean amp/cab.
@rrparker125 ай бұрын
Orange rig for the win!
@iliana_b4 ай бұрын
With a Blackstar HT model you wouldn’t even need pedals and have a killer metal tone
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy4 ай бұрын
I have a Micro Dark and a Dark Terror. I don't find they NEED an EQ pedal if you know how to use the tone knob. You can easily get a balanced but mid-heavy tone.
@user-by6eb6zo7g4 ай бұрын
I love both amps, but they need a boost up front which certainly effects the Tone knob
@metalmichew24 ай бұрын
Yeah anything with orange instantly wins for me, i think an old Marshall JMP might overtake orange but in this case orange wins hard. I think its that raw organic sound orange has, its exactly like those old Marshalls cranked hard
@pCeLobster5 ай бұрын
That Orange rig utterly dominated.
@Mr.5hady4 ай бұрын
Orange cut’s through? LoL, he must be mad🤷♂️🎸😆
@joehynes29644 ай бұрын
Sorry, Digital John - you've been beat. Ben's rig completely cuts through.
@atanastsvetkov15305 ай бұрын
John's sounds better on its own but can't be heard when played with Ben due to his pronounced mid range. It could be an issue with the EVH in the mix but maybe through a tube screamer in and that might fix it.
@compucorder645 ай бұрын
I'm more into Doom / Stoner metal. So I'd get an Epiphone SG Standard. In Alpine White. And a Marshall DSL20 combo amp. For pedals, a Electro-Harmonix Nano Metal Muff, because it has EQ and a gate too. And a TC Magus Pro, because it does the heavy Fat Rat sound, and the gnarly Turbo Rat sound. Fuzz & Rat together would get me toward that Sunn O))) Life Pedal sound. Can play the octaves by hand :)
@markmaagad5 ай бұрын
I love these guys🎉🎉🎉
@AllanGildea5 ай бұрын
Good craic, fellas!
@jmplautz5 ай бұрын
5150 amp with the Flying-V and effects is the direction I would go.
@wspeed6574 ай бұрын
I bought a Js-227 and the quality blew me away. Maybe I got lucky but when I tested out LTD schecter etc. nothing was close. It's better than most of my other guitars that cost 4x.
@setra234 ай бұрын
Same, I bought a "low end" Jackson 7 string and it was really well made.
@I.M.Guitar-Nerd4 ай бұрын
First off, you two need to make more videos together; as for the rigs, they both sound great but I've gotta go with the Dinky and the 5150.
@Artec6195 ай бұрын
The orange rig sounded way better, 5150 just sounded weird, might be a speaker thing
@juhva5 ай бұрын
Steve Hackett has show in Guildford on 12 October 2024. Any chance for interview to your KZfaq channel?
@skip70534 ай бұрын
Excellent 👍🏻
@richgrothaus59714 ай бұрын
Digital John, both players were great.
@emartinezr4 ай бұрын
Ok so just for the metal look of that V... i would pick the 5150, the Jackson V and the mini TS. And call it a day. Bring on the groupies.
@doctoribanez4 ай бұрын
Out of all the stuff I like the 5150 the most
@TheMerc19505 ай бұрын
Orange for the win...sorry John.
@shawndunlap7145 ай бұрын
I prefer the dinky with the Orange 🍊👍
@MrDracolucassos4 ай бұрын
Floyd rose special/cheap license floyd- stay in tune, choose one.
@mccoy43545 ай бұрын
Here would be my picks (Current Prices in USD from Sweetwater): 1. POD GO: $375 + $20 (You can by AMAZING IRs and Presets for like $20 and really transform this), personal fav: Fremen Presets 2. Boss Katana MKII: $229 (Only interested in MKII since they have POWER AMP IN - so directly acts as a CAB for POD GO, can also be used as AMP if needed) Both 1 and 2 total 624 USD 3. Now you have $376 for a guitar, so depending on what you play, you can try couple of these. However, you may need a lil more for a decent guitar 3.a. Jackson Dinky Arch Top JS32 - new one for $399 - Amazing fret work and great pickups for the price. Comes with A Floyd Trem system - not the best but pretty stable. 3.b. If you shell a little more for a Schecter Omen 6 - that would be the best choice but will put you 50-100 USD above the budget.
@WoolysWorld5 ай бұрын
Class, anyone recommend a good budget amp for metal?
@fssstyuniaf5 ай бұрын
Easily a Boss Katana. Once you connect a computer/phone into it, you'll have access to unholy amounts of distortion and variety of tones/amps/pedals etc. I bought one a few months ago and without doubt its the best budget amp I've ever owned. I got mine for £180 2nd hand
@WoolysWorld5 ай бұрын
@@fssstyuniaf class, thanks so much , ill have a look
@WoolysWorld5 ай бұрын
@@fssstyuniaf which model did you get?
@raytorvalds36995 ай бұрын
I don't know what price range you call budget. But you can usually find a 2nd hand Peavey 6505+ 112 Combo for under 400. If you decide to go Katana, which is a great choice, do mind that the 50W doesn't have an effects loop. The 100W does (there is 1x12 and 2x12 version of the 100W).
@fssstyuniaf5 ай бұрын
@@WoolysWorld I got the 50w Mk2 but as the other commenter says it dosent have an fx loop. I may sell it and upgrade in the future
@themisterh4 ай бұрын
Djentlemen Ben, how do you feel knowing Djent is not a genre?
@ohhhthatsjames4 ай бұрын
They could have used a katana 50 mk2 and saved a ton of money for better guitar/pedals. I vaguely remember them having Rebea on and he used it to emulate like Trivium or someone
@sehbanalam934 ай бұрын
Hit like if you think Andertons should do a video on Cort Guitars and Basses. They are producing really quality premium instruments. I would love to know their perception of it. Please make this comment stand out so Andertons gets the message.