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@heeraipad645717 күн бұрын
Not working for me.
@Tiz1472 жыл бұрын
I imagine very few people who have spunked over 2k on kit is going to admit it's as good as kit that cost a quarter as much.
@alexlloyd61122 жыл бұрын
that's true, but people pay for the perceived safety and quality of branded gear, I bought my Alpinestars jacket because I knew the materials would be top-notch and durable. That said, these videos are so helpful because they allow us all to look at items that are just as high quality, just as durable, but for a fraction of the price. :)
@MotoTingle2 жыл бұрын
@@alexlloyd6112 I am totally with this
@stewiemac40172 жыл бұрын
Particularly when they discover it was made in Vietnam...
@AR-iu9jv Жыл бұрын
My Akito Typhoon jacket and trousers do the job just fine..although the weather protection on my 2008 FJR is excellent too
@andrewpurkis1049 Жыл бұрын
I think the majority of the cost is labour
@foddy02 жыл бұрын
Pet hate: velcro on the collar which both fails to keep the collar closed securely, but still manages to eat away at helmet straps.
@sighheinrich2 жыл бұрын
30:00 I would recommend ALWAYS to get laminated waterproof textile instead of the gear with the liners! I was traveling with my friend and my Gore-Tex jacket lost its DWR throughout the day. The Z liner was keeping my body dry, but the whole jacket was completely soaked and at 130km/h it got seriously cold. My friend had Gore-tex Pro with laminated water proofing. For him it was perfect. When we arrived at a hotel, my jacket kept dripping on the floor the whole night and the jacket was still wet the next day! My friend could just shake his jacket and all water droplets just fell of. 10 min later his jacket was completely dry.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! There are times when laminated isn't the best bet, but... cheers, John
@PhilG2212 жыл бұрын
Once you go laminate you don’t go back. I think that’s how it goes…
@HelloWorld-ew9vl Жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial and when are those times when laminated isn’t the best?
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
@@HelloWorld-ew9vl when you're riding predominantly in hot climates as you can't remove the membrane, which will have an impact on your body's ability to shed heat
@richardwillmott63248 ай бұрын
Wise words
@twoeyedbob2 жыл бұрын
Went with rukka cos it’s consistently up with the best cold/wet weather gear live in 🏴
@mrcintheuk46412 жыл бұрын
🤯. What I gleaned from all that information is, use a motorcycle specific base layer, laminate jacket and trousers with level 2 armour throughout, and use electric heated garments for winter, not forgetting to try everything on first to make sure it fits. Or, use what I already have, including my waterproofs over the top when it rains. 😉 Excellent information, as usual. 👍👍👍
@tucker91622 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual John - however, the modelling was hilarious.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! All the very best, John
@DerpEye2 жыл бұрын
I mostly own Dainese gear, because it fits me well, because i can find it at a decent price (i'm italian). Even though i own one of those fully transformable 4 season jackets with different layers and basically bulletproof against water/wind/etc, i only ever use it in its winter configuration. I have a dedicated jacket for autumn and one for summer. Especially for summer, here you can't ride with anything other than d-air gear (or whatever they call it), in 30+ degree temperatures. I have a couple of leather jackets, but i don't use them often: too hot in summer, and always a chance of getting wet in the colder season.
@a2bwithlee2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I’ve worn Klim in 30 degree heat and down near freezing. Close to perfect. My gf has Klim laminated jkt paired with Halvarsons drop liner trousers for more lower half comfort/flexibility. All has been battle tested in severe, hours long rain with no issues.
@ursjungo58962 жыл бұрын
Absolutely outstanding and comprehensive review! Currently using a Richa Infinity 2 Pro jacket, a Richa Scrambler 2 jacket and a Bull-It jean; very happy with all of them.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@madcockney2 жыл бұрын
I think weather you go for a drop down or laminated liner really depends what sort of riding you do, how often, the weather conditions and whether you can afford two sets of gear for the different conditions. Definitely I have been out in some horrid weather in the past in my RST Ventilator III jacket and Paragon jeans and been completely wetted out, and that has been in late spring. However I have also been out if some quite heavy rain and had no issues with a drop liner and it does provide the flexibility from warmer and drier conditions to wetter and colder ones. The issue I found was in sizing that the Ventilator came up very small whereas the Paragon Jeans come up extremely large. Thinking of replacing these with at least AA gear I discussed this with RST some months back and not only can they not say that the sizing between different models will be similar but cannot say even that the sizing between jacket and jeans (trousers) within the same model will be the same. It looks like this is still where you have to try both out before purchase to ensure that they fit. (Hopefully RSTs latest gear sizing is closer than a few years ago.) I think that this will probably be similar for several manufacturers especially if they have the garments made in places like India, and if the jackets and trousers are made at different locations this will possibly add to the issue. I don't know about outside of the UK, but within a UK it was quite common for the actual manufacturer to offload some of their manufacturing of entire garments, considering top and bottoms being separate garments, to sub contractors. The original garment manufacturer wants to make a profit over the sub contractor, who in turn may have a sub contractor so there is the possibility with every level of subcontracting the control and preciseness deteriorates.
@greyanaroth2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Such killer information. The modelling shots, however, took the cake 😂
@donx42 жыл бұрын
About the gloves tucked inside the jacket. This works great for most, except if you have tall handelbars. With Most bikes your arms positioned with your hands lower than your elbows. Cruiser and some advs with high bars where your hand is higher than your elbow while riding. I find it creates a wind/water tunnel down your jacket arms. I found gloves outside works best for higher bars. Right until you step off the bike and gravity wicks all the water down you arm and into the inside of your glove.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Definitely it's about finding what works best for you. And just walk around with your amrs up waving all the time... hey presto, no water dribble! Cheers, John
@PeteFromOZ2 жыл бұрын
Your vlog on crash protection was enlightening. Waterproof leathers have come a long way and offer comfort, weather and crash protection that rivals my textile kit.
@The-Splat2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and several waterproof leathers are available. I’d love to see Bennetts (John) review them
@michaelironrider94432 жыл бұрын
Great video, looking forward to your airbag reviews. I had looked for an airbag vest recently, my criteria have been: - electronic vest (didnt want to attach myself to the bike) - no hidden costs like subscription fees - no expensive or time consuming replacement of co2 cardridge (do it myself on the go) - wearable over the jacket (inside makes only sense if its directly integrated due to inflation space required) With these criteria, only Helite eturtle was left. They even offered online advice for sizing (free video call).👍😀
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Let me know how you get on - it's definitely a really interesting looking bit of kit with some great science behind it. Cheers, John
@michaelironrider94432 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial I would say: so far, so good! Didnt have an inflation yet (and didnt need to), sizing and recharging is good (although would have wished for USB C).
@paulcoverdale8312 Жыл бұрын
I was given a great bit of advice by my cousin who, was a London dispatch rider. He said, BUY THE BEST YOU CAN AFFORD! He wasn’t wrong. Ride safe. Ride lucky an ride well boys an girls👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️
@darrenstone3693 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video on textiles. I work for J&S Accessories and I pick textile clothing everyday at work. I personally wear a Alpinestar tsps jacket myself as it fits within my budget
@illiyakuryakin3092 Жыл бұрын
The best overall review on motorcycle clothing I ever saw. Thank you.
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@PadmaDorjee2 жыл бұрын
I commented earlier before watching the video. I'm just blown away by the generous amount of information, just amazing. Thank you very much 🏆
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@raphby Жыл бұрын
What matters is triple-A rating and CE Level 2 protectors including chest protection. After that I look for style (no huge brand names or pockets as if I was fishing). Next whatever I need - particularly good ventillation, waterproofing, leather, airbag-compatibility etc.
@thewoodster86072 ай бұрын
Which clothing maker has AAA level rating and Level 2 protectors, inc. chest?
@kostakis32 жыл бұрын
I've recommended this channel to all my bikers friends. Amazing research as usual
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@jeg569 Жыл бұрын
I have been riding bikes for almost 40 years, my Goretex Pro Rukka ArmaS jacket and trousers are the most waterproof and expensive kit I have ever used. The Rukka kit feels like a fitted suit. I do not see the point in having a waterproof layer under the outer jacket, why would you want to wear a soaking wet heavy outer jacket.
@alexlloyd61122 жыл бұрын
I bought the ALPINESTARS GP PLUS R V3 RIDEKNIT leather jacket. I bought it for the summer days since the jacket has many parts that are knitted rather than leather. So far it's pretty spectacular overall, a major issue would arise wearing it during winter, but during the warmer months it's fantastic for what it is, and holds up to the average amount of rain (in England) for up to an hour with no problem. I haven't come off of it, but its AA rated, and the materials are pretty sturdy. Comes at a cost though, RRP at around £450 depending on where you buy it... I'd recommend it, for warmer days even with a chance of rain.
@bumblebee_tuna2 жыл бұрын
I met John at Rownams services recently and he's hands down one of the nicest blokes and certainly knows his stuff. Sounds like I'm reviewing or giving him feedback on ebay 😃
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks SO much - that's really kind! Hope your KTM comes in soon! Cheers, John
@stuartkraven2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for yet another great video. I got back into biking recently after a way too long layoff. The only bit of kit I'm still using from then is my Frank Thomas textile jacket. It seems to be fine and has kept me dry in the pouring rain. With regards to the gloves inside/outside of sleeves, I put mine outside. When it's raining the water goes up your glove and over the top of your sleeve, if it was inside the sleeve it would go in and wet your arm.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
If the cuff's properly sealed around the glove, having them inside is usually the best bet - as counter-intuitive as it seems! Cheers, John
@stuartkraven2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a try. Cheers.
@tonybarton37462 жыл бұрын
Been riding for 51 years , all year riding , all weathers . I’d only get laminated kit nowadays, dry quickly and are a lot lighter . Great vlog , who was the old bloke doing dad dancing? 😂😂
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Dunno - he just stumbled in
@ToxicChillz2 жыл бұрын
I have a Oxford Mondial laminated suit which is absolutely amazing, been out in some seriously crap weather, snow hail and absolute downpours and had no issues what so ever, even without the thermal liners, however with the rain running down the outside on a sportbike I did start to get pretty cold., Not at all if I have the thermal liner in, been out in winter with just a t-shirt and the thermal liner in and was fine in almost freezing temperatures
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
The Mondial is a great bit of kit, though it doesn't have the direct ventilation of the Hinterland. You can read the full review here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/textile-jackets-trousers-suits/oxford-mondial-laminate-jacket-trousers-review
@RichO1701e2 жыл бұрын
I would agree, the Mondial is fantastic, especially for the price. Upgrading the armour to level 2 massively improved the comfortability factor for me.
@andrewandlm2 жыл бұрын
Halvarrson kit all the way for me... Great vid again chaps 💪
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@charlesbarnett27243 ай бұрын
Thos is a brilliant channel. Well done folks. Keep up the good work
@bennettsbikesocial3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@focus5502 жыл бұрын
The other advantage of laminated gear is they keep the wind out. So on a cold day they are a really good barrier to keep you warmer, but you do need to wear a good windproof layer beneath, should there be any drafts. Great survey with a lot of results. And having had Klim gear the past year i concur with the results for them as a brand. I'm highly impressed with it and glad i spent the money on it.
@SouthWest-jj8yu2 жыл бұрын
Great review John, I have a few textile suits the first was the BMW coverall that’s worn over normal clothes. It has armour and isn’t a waterproof over-suit but a proper protective suit. I’ve had it several years and it has always been 100% waterproof and generally comfortable to wear. The only problem with this suit comes in hot weather as there aren’t any vents so not so great. I bought an Oxford suit thunk it was the Mondial laminate suit but I ride in all weathers lots of miles on a blood bike so was disappointed when I was about 100 miles from home in heavy rain and I was soaked. I have replaced this with a Dane suit and ridden for the last year. It had a good fit has proved to be completely waterproof and has enough vents for summer. For extra protection I also wear a Helite air vest.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A shame the Oxford let you down, but glad the Dane is working well. And a BIG thanks for the Blood Bike work! All the best, John
@johnmitchell97059 ай бұрын
I now wear a mesh jacket all year long. When it gets cold I put in the waterproof liner. I do not use the liner for rain as it is cold with a wet liner near the skin. I have a thin waterproof jacket I wear over the mesh for rain and for near freezing cold. The waterproof liner over the mesh provides an insulated air barrier against the cold. I am still looking for great mesh pants.
@davidg21162 жыл бұрын
Great video as always John, consistently fantastic content. I ride in an Oxford hinterland suit for the last year. I've ridden in 0 degree and up to mid 20s on my hour commute wearing just cotton trousers and shirt underneath. It's my first laminate kit and I'll never go back. Perfectly dry in horrible weather, liner keeps me warm, open the zips in summer and the breeze flows through. It's been comfortable in all weather but it's not perfect. I'd like to see an improvement in the collar. Although the material is soft it needs a slight redesign as my work shirt can pop out over the top sometimes.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks! All the best, John
@PadmaDorjee2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad that I only just found this video after buying my gear online without ever seeing it. I wish I could join your community but in from Australia.
@shanestewart49052 жыл бұрын
Getting off the ferry in plymouth a couple of weeks ago into driving rain. Welcome back to blightly! No prob's thought i, Dane gore tex pro jacket and new Held trousers. Over the next five hours of non stop rain my cotton neck tube wicked the water under my jacket into the base layer and down to my shreddies. I was cold wet and bloody miserable when i got home.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Going point though... definitely something to watch out for. Cheers, John
@willidevegt88315 ай бұрын
All i can say is i have not a very good experience with Hein Gericke brand. I`m a Dutchman living for many years in the hot and humid climate of Malaysia. When my wife had to go to Munich Germany for a business trip i followed her and while there i went to the Hein Gericke shop and bought a jacked. I only wore it a couple of times not more than 10. But now 2 of the zips that seam to be glued in let go completely. I think it has to do with the climate here because i also face many times problems with sport shoes where the sole let go while they still almost like new. Any way only my 2 cents. take care ride safe
@903lew11 ай бұрын
I have to say I’ve never been a fan of the outer jacket for my main protection. I have a Knox Urbane Pro which is AA and has Level 2 armours. Belt loops keep it secured and I just layer up with other gear I already have. GoreTex Packlite for the rain, woolly army jumper for the cold, puffy decathlon jacket for the proper cold. Maybe I’m a cheap bastard but I like using the kit I’ve already bought and paid for. I want the armour and abrasion resistance but apart from that - if it’s good enough for winter paragliding it’s good enough. Tbh it’s so easy to overspend.
@kawabungah20 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, interesting content! The airbag and internal "tap-on-the-shoulder" technologies of near-future are exciting. Good on yah, BKS!
@gingerelvis2 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly oldschool in my gear these days, an old Richa leather jacket has treated me well for around 10 years with a bit of treatment whenever I can be arsed. it's flawed but it's outlived any textile clothing that I've ever had and has been down the road. Trousers are RST Paragons, they've been amazing and were waterproof in even the worst weather but the waterproof lining has given up now so I usually end up jumping in the waterproof boil-in-the-bag if it's particularly bad. For me you can't beat the durability and longevity of leather with a bit of feeding. Textiles tend to get a bit tatty over time and lengthy commuting all year round even if they keep you dry they get saturated and heavy in time and start to stink when they get old so the waterproof oversuit comes out anyway. I'm starting to think sod it I'll stick to leather if I'm going to end up in the bag when the weather is rough.
@antoineallard87882 жыл бұрын
I Completely agree , even if i still have some textile gear. I prefer my leathers
@MotoMatini10 ай бұрын
I "arsed" with my gear lately and do not have planes to sell my 10 years "young" Halvarssons leathers. I have bought newest Halvarssons protectors all around with D30 Viper back insert and now I must fix main zip on the jacket... Halvarssons provide waterproof membranes but those parts are in my closet and I prefer dedicated Scott waterproofs OVER my leather AND textile kit. I have tedency to give away and sell dropliner gear. Every gear wet out soon or later and therefore I almost always have with me Scott waterproof jacket and trousers. But again riding MT-09 on the curvy roads of West Norway is almost extreme hobby 😅 My priorities are following: 1. Laminate gear (not necessarily Gore!); 2. Kit with possibility for membrane part to have OVER, under or off the gear, and 3. Nice pair of leathers or mesh jacket and jeans without membranes at all. I have noticed that when winter coming many expensive motorcycle apparel is to cold, specially gloves and (laminated) trousers. And neck solutions on motorcycle jackets are usually bad (helmet hood anyone?). Gear maintenance is important and textiles are washable, huge pluss over leathers in everyday use 🙂
@antonoat Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, appreciate your effort. One exception, please don't accept claims of durability from riders who've only been using gear for a couple of months! PS obviously I've subscribed!
@markbteeps2 жыл бұрын
I've been impressed with my Halvarssons Walker jacket. I've ridden 9000 miles in all weather so far, stayed dry every time.
@RichO1701e2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant suit, just their own brand, back protector is the only problem with that suit.
@imautuber10 ай бұрын
Every bit of RST kit I've bought have leaked from new. I find RST kit to be a complete disappointment and waste of money if rain is a concern. I've bought from their budged end to their expensive end and where waterproofing is concerned it been money wasted, I'll never buy it again. And before anyone says "no motorcycle kit is truly waterproof" I've hadn't had an issue with any of my Risha, wiese or alpinestars kit. Great video by the way 👍
@erj145jet2 жыл бұрын
Got a Dainese laminate jacket and Dane laminate trousers.100% dry in many hours of deluge. Very well cut for comfort and useful details for adjustability. For comparison I recently got given a Richa Infinity 2 Pro which suffers from many of the design faults mentioned in the video, although it is waterproof. Check Fit while on a bike, pocket configuration, wrist adjustment method and neck fastenings.
@PokerMuppet2 жыл бұрын
I've spent a lot of time looking at jackets as I really want the best option for my needs... however, one thing I have noticed regarding reviews etc is that the demographic of the owner is hardly ever considered. For example I heard rave reviews about Rukka so I order a number of jackets from SBS due to free returns. I ordered multiple models and 2 sizes of each. Every single one was awful when it came to fit. Sleeves were too short and the main body was definitely designed for someone carrying far more weight than I do. I sent them all back and paid more attention when out and about and realised that the majority of Rukka owners are middle aged or retired men with significant beer bellies... (usually riding BMW GS's) which isn't surprising considering that you need significant, disposable income to pay upwards of £700 on a jacket. Trying to get a good jacket that fits is one of the hardest things I've had to do since I got my license 6 years ago.
@stocks7765 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you should eat more fish & chips, you'll grow into it
@PokerMuppet Жыл бұрын
@@stocks7765 funny, although it utterly misses the point that I was making about the type of wearer in the first place.
@thewoodster86075 ай бұрын
Great video John, as usual. Top stuff. Can I just add something about venting: vents are great but to work effectively you need intake and corresponding exhaust venting. Venting into a waterproof liner is pointless and vents with overflaps severely restricts their effectiveness. Features like this are normally sorted on the high end jackets and trousers.
@bennettsbikesocial5 ай бұрын
Good point, cheers!
@jimsadler87042 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, John, for an extremely informative video.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@AleksiJoensuu2 жыл бұрын
Diggin' the moves John! Awesome content as usual, too. :)
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Slow mo makes everyone cool. Oh, no it doesn't!
@robbiegriffiths71975 ай бұрын
Cheapskate here: I'm still using a Frank Thomas textile jacket I got for £50 19 years ago. It stays dry for about an hour and with multiple warm layers underneath I rode for about 7 hours with temperatures just above zero this winter. I gave up on the matching trousers from the beginning because of poor fitting at the ankle.
@lkneepkens533 ай бұрын
Unfortunatly notting about the visibility in traffic or bad weather-conditions. Most of the shown suits are dark greyish. If you like to be noticed, and like me you don’t like the pull over yellow or orange vests, you are stuck to an limited stock. I kept an older and warmer suit for the colder seasons, and a nice ventilated suit (Louis) for summer. 👍🏼 Nice channel i got to say, greetings from the Netherlands.
@theskylab46232 жыл бұрын
Another great video from bike social. These are really proving to be invaluable. Well done all behind them.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@BlackThor152 жыл бұрын
Awesome video John!! Great information to day to day riders but also for new riders or anyone wiling to come back to riding after "life" got in the way for a few years, like me. Keep it up doing theses reviews, you're doing great and they're really valuable! 👍👍 PS. Any chance you can do a review of Summer gloves? Thank you.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I did do one about gloves recently. Also, check out all the glove reviews at bikesocial.co.uk. Cheers, John kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpubi85evLilqYU.html
@BlackThor152 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial thank you John!
@jage61266 ай бұрын
An important thing to inform about is if jacket from brand X can be zipped together with trousers from brand Y. I have rukka, but the jacket is now too small, but the trousers is still perfect
@Tiz1472 жыл бұрын
The last BMW adventure suit I had wasn't totally waterproof. The back of the liner was breathable...
@Jonathan-L Жыл бұрын
Maybe getting wet is part of the adventure :)
@Tiz147 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-L hahaha yeah maybe.
@bikemenace21452 жыл бұрын
Went with Rukka 5 years ago. Their zips always break (my jacket being sent back 5 times) and their customer service is atrocious. When I bought it I was told if the jacket went wrong I’d be given another till it was repaired, not once did I receive a loaner. Not sure which I will go with for autumn but Rukka aren’t looking like the favourite.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Really sorry to hear that!
@defylifeadventure2 жыл бұрын
Agree with Rukka CS being poor. I recently bought my second pair of Rukka Apollo gloves. I was shocked to see the label saying they were 79% polyester. It was obviously a misprint, but I wanted to Rukka to confirm it. It took 3 emails and over a month before they even bothered to respond. And then just said, "oh yeah it's a bad print on the label". that was it.
@Geshmaal2 жыл бұрын
A noble effort. I think the scoring overall is a bit difficult to appraise because people won't have necessarily owned multiple suits of the same construction etc to compare. My Halvarssons laminated suit is worlds ahead of my previous Oxford and Spada kit but they were cheapo drop liner affairs. When I win it big and get a Rukka or Klim suit maybe I'll be able to compare! The stuff that just doesn't get the job done stands out at least.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Halvarssons makes some great kit. Cheers, John
@jameslast31925 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t put a camera no matter how small in a back pocket, if you come off, which is the whole point of such protective clothing, landing on your back could easily be made worse as essentially it would be like landing on a rock in the low back drastically increasing your chance of spinal fracture. Always wear protective clothing like you will need it on that ride.
@bc75702 жыл бұрын
John really does PhD level research for Bennetts. Give the man his doctorate 😉
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thanks! All the best, John
@HyadumHH Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thorough explanation.
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@martinhughes97692 жыл бұрын
I use RST jeans, leather jacket find them comfortable only ever been in light rain also have RST long jacket and bottoms the same can zip them together very happy overall for the price ,RST short leg boots all great value all products have back elbow shoulder and knee protection 👍 Last 2 helmets been a HJC lovely comfortable helmet however the clip at the front that locks the visor down is very poor in my view, less than 6 months old clip broke at first company didn't think it was a genuine fault eventually replaced it again same thing happened I bought a replacement myself that went the same way in under a year old so don't use the HJC at all ,I replaced it with a shark it cost £ 190 it's been great till 2 days ago over 3 years old and it's just broken on the visor on the holding point on the side of the helmet but been very pleased, so need to get a new visor, Great video,
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@tenbear54 ай бұрын
40+ years here, swear by Rukka gear. 👍
@tenbear54 ай бұрын
… & their faultless customer service.
@jameshealy45942 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it might be difficult to comment on in the UK but as an Aussie I'd love to know what (if any) *full* mesh jackets are safe and trustworthy. Maximum irflow with some level of safety are literally the only things that matter some days, I've never ridden in a t-shirt but the temptation is very real.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Best bet is to aim for the highest rating under EN17092
@903lew11 ай бұрын
Knox Urbane Pro is AA with level 2 armour in the mk3. I have one and just put on regular layers on top. Works great for me when combined with a pair of single-layer AAA jeans.
@TheDennzio3 ай бұрын
Haven't taken notes since university
@AndyPutt110 ай бұрын
I've never understood why a jacket should have a thermal liner. The zipping in and out seems kind of pointless too.. just wear a jumper underneath.
@bm7760 Жыл бұрын
Best jacket I ever owned was a KTM Adventure. Got a good fifteen years out of it. For the most part I don't want to feel encumbered by my kit and too much of the gear out there does exactly that.
@alanbrown55932 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how much the kit costs (£2K), if the importers habitually refuse warranty claims. Apparently a jacket within the 6 year warranty period is "old" and accordingly not covered.
@XtremeCoke Жыл бұрын
Dane gear is way underrated. I had my sealand pro its priced competitively with best material available in the market. I dont have much joy with Rev It the stitch failed in shownroom before I buy...
@MacMillanDAN9 ай бұрын
Oh wow! I didn't know that the like button lights up now when you tell us to like the video! That's awesome!
@bennettsbikesocial9 ай бұрын
Wait, what?! Really?
@mikeycouser9126Ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always! Quick question…realistically, how waterproof are the wax cotton jackets?
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
If they're kept well waxed then theoretically they should be good, but there's a lot to degrade that coating. Cheers, John
@aberdeenaviationphotograph931111 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@chrisclemmett64582 жыл бұрын
Great vid John 👍🏻 as always. What about over jackets and trousers ie Rev’it Cyclone
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
I did mention oversuits briefly, but didn't go into details, sorry! Cheers, John
@chrisclemmett64582 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial I use a Triumph Waldron mesh jacket, it’s brilliant in summer but should it rain!! So I’ve bought a Rev’it cyclone 3 for my backpack. I don’t think it’d be worth you doing over jackets and pants. Great informative vid as always 👍🏻
@joeherbert4329 Жыл бұрын
Nice video mate, moving back to Scotland from NYC, looking for KTM 1290...... and all the gear that one needs. TY
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@thimbur35432 жыл бұрын
If your trousers have a short hanging loop then use an old shoelace or similar to make a bigger one by looping it through. Simples.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Good idea! Cheers, John
@petervautmans1992 жыл бұрын
i ride in a tremendous laminated textile suit and you don't even mention it: Stadler (super vent 3). How come?? I upgraded from the Revit Neptune, also very good. I ride almost 30 k kms a year , year round commute, Brussels region on my XR, so good gear is very important.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter... Sadly Stadler just didn't come up from our 1,898 survey respondents, and I (and the rest of the Test Team) have no experience of the brand. However, hopefully the video helps with what to look for in any jacket / trousers, so anybody coming across it should be able to decide if it's right for them; given how hard you use it, it certainly sounds good kit! And good choice of bike, by the way; I have a first gen XR. Cheers, John
@petervautmans1992 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial I think our bikes are almost identical, first gen, triple black and i installed the denalis after seeing your vid on it
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
@@petervautmans199 Ah - did we speak before about it? Rings a bell but I have a memory like a sieve! Cheers, John
@reinmansmith Жыл бұрын
Excellent video with some great information, top job! 👍
@threethrushes2 жыл бұрын
I trust this guy.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@Boxer1250RT2 жыл бұрын
Klim needs to fix the collars in those super expensive jackets. When you sit on the bike, it will choke you and you cannot even turn your head around. I bought and sold it immediately after a few rides.
@markshenton414410 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this roundup and while this review is a good idea in theory, brands are using multiple types of waterproofing, thermal, and outer materials within there lineup's including how they are bonded. Its difficult to rely on the information presented due to this. No idea how you would get around this without going into even more detail, maybe a test on the individual materials inc seam strength, waterproof pressure test, and an oxford abrasion test to go along with the general consensus? Anyway, thanks for putting in the time to pull all of this info together.
@bennettsbikesocial10 ай бұрын
Our reviews on BikeSocial.co.uk cover full waterproof testing for individual garments
@stewiemac40172 жыл бұрын
I'd urge anyone who wants high end textiles to get along to Hideout in Saffron Walden. Surely the best available anywhere in the world. AAA rated. M2M and customised if required. Can always be repaired or altered. Made to last for many years.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Hideout meets the higher EN13595, like BKS. They're both mentioned in this video
@stewiemac40172 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial yeah that's what I meant, apologies to Kate! You find lots of police and other pro riders in the shop. I was being paid a mileage rate for bike, working in NHS and commuting different hospitals, we decided that mandates proper PPE. Something for folk to bear in mind and the £2k was deductible.
@MotoGoato2 жыл бұрын
hmmmm ... so ... for £2.5K would you go for the Rukka suit ... or ... a bespoke made to measure BKS textile suit??
@timparker92352 жыл бұрын
great video and info - thank you. can we have a video of just you posing? very funny!
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
I think the internet would struggle to handle it!
@lold6130 Жыл бұрын
Bought some Rukka Apollo gloves for £200 In the space of 9 months the liner has pulled straight out 3 times, had it replaced under warranty those 3 times. Not particularly roughh with my gloves, these are the only ones that has ever happened to me. My Lindstrand, revit and richa gloves did not do this for me ever. Also, not 100% waterproof, running the tap over them in the sink or submerging in water, they do leak in the finger tips, but I don't know if I'm being unreasonable with that test seeing as thats not a realistic waterproof test. They have been waterproof in the the times I have been caught in rain and my fingertips are underneath the handlebars I guess scratchchin I am thinking of buying some Rukka gear off ebay, £160 for a gore-tex textile jacket that has been barely used. am I just unlucky with my experience with Rukka or is this a general trend recently? All their stuff is made in China now.
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! It's very hard to say really - I've not used any Rukka gloves, so have no experience of them. We do have a video with user experiences of gloves too here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpubi85evLilqYU.html
@phillipmckeownakalucifer.66892 жыл бұрын
Great work mate
@alpinab142 жыл бұрын
Such a shame stadler was not hear , things like there treasure pro jacket and all4all pants , probably the best kit on the market
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it was among the brands that didn't get anywhere near enough feedback from our survey respondents. Plus I, and everyone else in the team, have no experience of it. Hopefully the video will help people choose if it's the right gear for them. Cheers, John
@alpinab142 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial hi john yea unfortunately its a brand that not many people have discovered yet , motolegends on youtube have got a couple of great vids on them and its what the German and Irish police use but just my opinion i feel they are the best kit on the market by far but hopefully more folk will learn about them , but if you get some spare time worth popping over to motolegends youtube and having a little look at the tresure pro jacket and the all4 pants to see what you think , but great vid as always mate and always very helpfull , thanks again
@stocks7765 Жыл бұрын
@@alpinab14 I got you!II have the Rukka Realer(Nivala)and the 4all pro trousers!Best kit ever owned.Drove 900 km from France to Belgium in horrendous rain,not one drop came trough and it was between 6_9 degrees, didn't feel cold at all with Rukka's base and midlayers.Stadler/Rukka and Klim,you don't need anything else
@alpinab14 Жыл бұрын
@@stocks7765 totally agree mate , wish more people knew about stadlar , they really are the best clothing available , really glad i went for laminate gore tex , got cought in very heavy rain over the weekend and after hanging everything up to dry the laminated gore tex pants were bone dry on the outside within an hour but the old non laminated gore tex jacket i have was still very damp the next morning , worth the extra cost imo
@stocks7765 Жыл бұрын
@@alpinab14 true!And they last a lifetime,friends have 8-10 year old Rukka and Stadler,still waterproof after all these years 💪
@gerrypowell27482 жыл бұрын
Good amount of information👌
@stamper8102 жыл бұрын
Top catalogue modelling 😆
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
I might have a new future!
@iainkitson56822 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, thank you
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@Peter-mcmcmc2 жыл бұрын
Great, objective, and informative video, as always. Thank you for educating us. Curious, though as to why no offerings from Knox? Aren't they one of the most safety-conscious brands?
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Sadly Knox didn't make it into the survey as not enough people who responded owned it - there's a list of every brand that we couldn't include in there. Having only used some of the brands gloves, and with nobody in our team having had the opportunity to use any of it either, we couldn't use any as examples. Still, hopefully the video will help you decide if it's right for you. All the best, John
@Peter-mcmcmc2 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Thank you for clarifying, John, as well as pinning the links to the various breakdowns (super helpful and illustrative). I asked the question because, as an American, I've always turned to the European markets for my gear because I genuinely believe you all are far more serious about your safety standards, as well as more transparent in delineating amongst the certifications. Let's just say there's not much "truth in advertising" here haha. I only wear AAA certified gear, including Knox, Merlin, Stylmartin, and John Doe. I do have a two-year-old Klim "Induction" jacket, but have no clue what its safety rating is. It's the only American kit I own, yet hardly wear. Interesting that an American company fared so well amongst the other competitors. Thank you again; I greatly enjoy your channel...you're all an invaluable resource.
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-mcmcmc cheers! Interestingly, Klim is one of the few textile brands to currently be making off-the-peg AAA-rated textiles!
@aceboniface62102 жыл бұрын
great video , however your square not hanging square on the side of the cabinet kept drawing my attention away ...ocd trigger
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, but it stays there, and doesn't slide off. It's an optimum skew!
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi44492 жыл бұрын
I brought a Knox unban pro 2 and came off while out dirt bike riding in the bush ( from Australia) anyway broke my wrist and injured my right shoulder, it was a slow speed off , in my 40 years road and off road riding experience Level 2 armour SHOULD be in ALL shoulders ( as this is one ☝️ of the most injured areas on a crash 💥) so I have upgraded my shoulders to level 2. Actually BEST vented jacket is the knox urban pro 2. So your telling no one ☝️ voted for any KNOX gear .
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
We had a few votes for Knox, but not enough to be able to get any useful data - the same as all the other brands listed.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi44492 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial I’m very surprised it bring a UK 🇬🇧 brand item .
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 Knox is popular in gloves (and did well in the gloves survey), but not so much in other riding gear. RST was the most popular here, but that's more likely down to price and availability in stores, not because it's also a UK brand. Oxford is probably the most commonly available as it's in almost every bike shop; that's a UK brand too.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi44492 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Oxford heated grips are big in Australia, as the ADV / dual sport riding here is MASSIVE, some of those brands are popular to like RST , Klim , motodry - crap 💩 ( used to be fantastic 10 years ago ) Rjays , and others .
@mbrunskill14 күн бұрын
Can anyone recommend some laminate trousers that don't feel 5 sizes too big, loads of the textile gear is easy to get a nice fitting jacket but anything over 32 waist in the trousers and the legs are huge and baggy
@darrellb6583 Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks
@MotoTingle2 жыл бұрын
Merlin gear has let me down. I have two jackets the same, one for home one for work. Both exhibiting the same failures. Merlin warranty repair was shockingly bad and a Twitter search will find my video showing their idea of a repair. They literally sowed the pocket shut and we’re rude over the phone when I called to explain my issue with the returned jacket. Loved the modeling in this video! Brilliant!
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! What model is it?
@MotoTingle2 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Yoxall wax jackets. Merlin kicked me off as a follower after I showed the video of the warranty repair. I’ll never buy this brand again and I can only hope the build quality and repairs are now up to scratch. With all the industry chasing non CE certified traders at motorcycle events. It’s worth the industry taking a closer look at the bigger brands. I can go to two local dealers and point out imperfections in jackets on sale yo us bikers. And I know you could too. Im not here to bash Merlin. It’s just our combined experiences all help guide each other on what’s been good and not so good. Still, im chuckling over the modelling
@martinowl2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear of your experience with Merlín. I have been looking into getting one of their wax cotton models & basically haven’t got one yet cos I struggled to find any in stores to try on etc. Your experience is seriously making me doubt making the purchase now. Thanks for the info.
@MotoTingle2 жыл бұрын
@@martinowl For every one of me, there will be others that will say their experience was good. So if you find a jacket, do give it a good look over and ask the retailer about how warranty claims take place. It’s a budget brand and I won’t be giving them my hard earned money ever again. Both jackets having the same failures says defective manufacturing. But the repair was shockingly bad. I have two jackets I don’t feel safe to wear. Given all the chasing after non CE sellers at motorcycle events. I think the industry should look at itself. And we’re out the sellers of sun standard gear
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
@@MotoTingle I can see Merlin asked you to contact them in that Tweet - what was the outcome?
@ewantomlinson15 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on riding hoodies i have just started riding and comuting i am only 16 and find that comuting in a jumper to be by far the most comfortable.
@bennettsbikesocial14 күн бұрын
Keep an eye on BikeSocial.co.uk for reviews. Cheers, John
@ashleyhazell6622 жыл бұрын
So the majority surveyed are old guys on Adventure and sport touring bikes doing less than 6k miles a year? Seems consistent with the kit being highlighted 😂
@Gaz1za21 Жыл бұрын
I biught the #rukka ARMA-T kit in 2016 for daily commuting and it's been exceptional at keeping my dry through the winter. The challenges have been keeping we warm when the weather gets proper cold - so I have a mid- and down-layers from #adventurespec and #klim - and then cool in the summers as the vents are useless. One other issue I Has was the take on the wrist zips; they're corroded to the point they fell off a don't take a replacement, so it's been frustrating and hard on the closed fingers now pulling the zipper closed. For me, if I had the money for a new suit, I wouldn't;t be going back to Rukka and have my eyes on the Klim range...
@MotoMatini10 ай бұрын
Rukka have to many quirks. Try Halvarssons/Lindstrands, they use best zippers.
@johnroff826310 ай бұрын
Scott ergo waterproofs over the top, no one ever seems to talk about road grime riding in winter, the ergos are inexpensive and easy to keep clean
@windinthewillows62482 жыл бұрын
Currently have a Rukka Kallavesi suit (having owned various Rukka and Rev’it suits over the years), very disappointed with the quality now. Stitching on jacket inner sleeve cuff ripped out, when I withdrew my hand through the cuff (jacket was only a month old and worn a few times). Had to be returned to UK importer for repair. Now the stitching on Kallevesi trouser are starting to unthread in various places, again they have had to be returned, but this time they have had to go back to Rukka in Sweden, with a 8 to 10 week turnaround! No offer of lone trousers, so I have to go 2 and half months without kit. So can’t recommend Rukka anymore, their quality seems to have taken a huge drop, at the customers expense, NOT at all impressed. 🧐 Edit: I need to also add that this suit is only about 14 months old and only worn the equivalent of twice a month (when we weren’t in lockdown), so not heavily worn everyday, and not done thousands of miles!
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Really sorry to hear that. Hope it gets sorted.
@windinthewillows62482 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Thanks for your reply, I hope so too, appreciate your video. Still very disappointed with the quality, and then the amount of time I will have to be without my 2K + suit.
@drdoolittle57242 жыл бұрын
Presenter is 100% but male model,??????? Love your work, keep it coming please!
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
I'm expecting a call from the top agents any time!
@G.Seguin Жыл бұрын
And Stadler don't appears in this comparision review? Oh my god!. Probably Stadler could be the best protective brand out there, Yes, better than Rukka, Rev'it and so on; (except if you ride in Greenland all year round, you may need better thermal layers inside the suit). It's quit expensive, it's not so stilish; but, with no doubt, it's the best protective brand that you money can buy. And for me, the principal check box it's protection; active and pasive. Check out Stadler brand, you will see. Thanks for your honest reviews. Regards
@bennettsbikesocial Жыл бұрын
Cheers! Sadly we had nowhere near enough feedback in our survey to feature it, and we've never had the opportunity to review it.
@G.Seguin Жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial If you can the opportunity of try them, do it. As i say, it's not so cool than Rukka or Klim, but, at protection level, today, it's the best that you can buy, at least, in Europe. Cheers!
@InterimExec8 ай бұрын
1898 members surveyed. "the group is always more knowledgeable than the smartest of their member
@danielbaluta44302 жыл бұрын
Great review - thank you! After a low-speed crash on gravel that left me with a spleen laceration, I've been looking for brands that offer some decent flank protection. In my case, as I hit the ground, my elbow (itself well protected with D30) unfortunately pushed hard into my flank causing my internal injuries. Have you come across any kit that offers decent flank protection?
@bennettsbikesocial2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! The AlpineStars Tech Air 5 vest might have what you're after. Cheers, John www.alpinestars.com/products/tech-air-5-system