Is there any database of your recommendations ?

You forgot to review the Asus Anime Case, for this you must stand trial before Goku, Naruto, Eren Jeager, Monkey D Luffy, and Lord Farquaad for crimes against The People Who Watch Anime On Their Expensive PCs Instead Of Playing Games. (TPWWAOTEPCIOPG for short).

Thanks Steve! Is there a consensus for best overall 4090-compatible case? Probably with an E-ATX MB and water cooling for the CPU.

Are you guys in the process of reviewing the torrent nano? I'm trying to decide between the nano and the compact for my first build.

So how is it the best case if there's an expensive prerequisite?

Right its gonna be a year already

still waiting

Is there a ver. 2 on the way? And/or are you planning on any other colours for the Y60? Great case BTW! 👏

@@braethorn See you there 💛

gg wp

Deserve it we want a 120$ version : The base customers

@@stopUkrainewar666 they would have to redesign the rear cover to allow horizontal GPUs.

Yeah I specifically chose my case because it had dust filters on the front, top, and bottom. A lot of these cases don't have filters and it kinda irks me. I get that it affects airflow, but cleaning a filter is much easier than cleaning GPU and CPU coolers

It’s not as hard as you think. My first build I did it like once every year if I remembered and now I do it regularly. Hell I do it when I get bored.

@@manh2704 I keep my PC in a spot that isn't the easiest to get to, so having to unplug everything and pull it out isn't as easy as you might think

​@@manh2704 I think you underestimate how tired and lazy some of us out here are feeling, case dust filters are the best innovation I've seen in recent history

@@DarthDungus If you lick them with your tongue once in a while, one lick each time and if you do it 3 times a week for an entire year you never will have a dust problem.

When it actually matters

I'm manipulating the algorithm!

Ye

Down with the matrix!

Yes

I can agree, still struggle to justify replacing my HAF X for a new build even though some newer cases are more aesthetically pleasing... Their price tags or gimmicks aren't.

If you can find the older Fractal FocusG, it actually has two 5.25 bays, but lacks a sealed basement and uses plexi instead of tempered glass, but is prized at half that of the Fractal Pop.

@@ToddandRaquiForrest Fractal Pop places the bay in a spot where direct airflow isn't needed though. Focus G blocks placement of a fan blowing directly at CPU

@@ToddandRaquiForrest Not sure how it compares to the Pop but the Define series also retains 5.25 inch support in its latest iteration

Having three 5.25" bays is exactly why I'm never giving up my Phanteks MiniXL. It might forever be the only dual-system case with 5.25" bays for hotswapping SSDs between the two systems. Really boggles my mind that Phanteks doesn't think of this functionality with their new dual-system cases. Waiting for ethernet file transfer is one way to never get anything done.

@@Vinterloft For what it's worth, and in case you do need to upgrade cases in the future, a couple options to get around this are SAS to SATA adaptors which are capable of dual pathing (not sure how available single drive adaptors are, mind) and direct interconnect networking standards like Thunderbolt, high speed peer to peer Ethernet (both capping at 10GbE speeds in this use case, enough to outperform SATA), or even used 40Gbps server networking hardware which has relatively inexpensive options for direct interconnects.

Im pretty happy with my HAF 500. The GPU fan mount is arguable, but the rest of the case is solid and gets the job done. The addition of a type C USB front connector, a fan and RGB hub and a removable top pannel for easy AIO / fan mounting completes the deal imho. I just HAF to get this case!

HAF500 is sold for ~$110 at the tax free port aka Hong Kong at launch, still not impressive at all

The new one is Fake HAF, remember the old true ones man those were game changers.

HAF 500 is still the same price here as a Torrent Compact more or less. (the black non glass compact) I mean even Pop air plain black cost the same as any of the HAF 500's. Sweden. Heck even Pop air XL cost around the same price as the HAF 500's. There is almost nothing from CoolerMaster worth buying. And Torrent aint rainbows and sunshine either.

We have, yeah. It's tough for time reasons. It takes an entirely different methodology and approach and we don't have time yet - but we want to get back to it.

Ive been rocking the ssupd meshlicious, Its been pretty great.

A4-H2O is pretty nice

Yes yes! sff deserves more love

@@GamersNexus It would be also cool to see the opposite, like very large ATX cube cases, where the mainboard is mounted horizontally and having multiple segmented compartments for different parts.

I still have an old antec case from 2004. Been meaning to put something in it at some point.

@@doctorno3912 Had one from that era too. Remember it weighing like 30lbs.

I run a pc repair shop and upgrade my case a lot... had a 4000d airlow for a year now and not had to clean my case out once. Honestly the best experience ive had except that there is the limitation of only being able to have a 360mm rad at the front if you mount with the tubes at the top otherwise its faultless and looks amazing.

Sometimes old cases are still good. I'm still using a Cooler Master HAF XB cube case and i don't have plans to replace it, because it's just a great and versatile high airflow case for aircooled builds. I also like horizontal designs more than towers, because it solves some of the tower-related problems, like GPU sag, cable managent and it's easier to install new hardware, because it can be opened from all sides. It has it's own problems too, like using a lot of space and that it must stand on a table.

I'm still using a whole 4 core Athlon 64 Extreme PC for backups on my network. Still does a great job and it's plenty fast for everyday computing, I upgraded to a used i5 system not all that much better just to get the Cooler Master HAF X case (~2010) it was in! Used it for a year and just recently transplanted the guts into a new Fractal Mesh C case which was quite tight, to make room for the new Ryzen 7 system I just built into the HAP X case! It still has room for like another system inside! It's a freaking beast of a case!

can you please share your thermal performance?

Wait, what - Bae got a *case* now?!

@@Lishtenbird yep

@@mineskirat Go on...?

I remembered she released it and it looked similar to this years best case, so I went to check it and it was actually a Hyde Y60. I really wanted to buy it now but then he said I need a GPU with liquid cooling which automatically disqualifies the case sadly

Thank you for your support 😍💛

I'm a fan

@@edwardr8226 llll

@@edwardr8226 That was cool

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Honestly, not everyone has the room, or benefits significantly from the increased footprint of these massive cases Steve is recommending.

These videos are really fun to make! Nice positive angle on things.

I just picked up a Corsair 5000D Airflow. Really like the look of the case and I think it'll be a pleasant case to build in.

Exactly, I have both the full size, and the Compact… using the Compact atm with a NH-D15. Love the airflow

Good choices. Same combo I used earlier this year and i couldn't be happier with performance.

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I’m pretty sure cases stay relatively the same price unless there’s a V2 of a case. There are cases that are $60 that go to $30-45 on sale, I usually buy those for the prebuilds I make, or I buy a used brand one for like half or quarter of the price.

Someone wants the o11 Dynamic Evo ro be in a best case list.

You and me both :3

Got the meshify 2 lite and meshify 2C lite and they are the best I've ever had.

Same haha, love that case :)

Hey GN, great job as usua with your case reviews - very thorough. To me, the chart for Best Noise-Normalized Thermals is the most useful, because everyone likes low noise, yet everyone wants to run a RTX 4090 with a Ryzen 7950X without said CPU/GPU throttling due to overheating. This chart shows the best a given case can do (in air-cooled mode without adding more fans) against a standardized load and limited to a standardized sound output - very useful. You sort the chart in order of lowest CPU temp, which is great for folks like me who plan on a beefy CPU but lightweight GPU. Those running a lightweight CPU along with a RTX 4090 might want to re-sort the chart in order by lowest GPU temp. For the average PC builder - say someone who has a middle-ish CPU and a middle-ish GPU - one might actually want to sort these cases in increasing order of the Average of CPU and GPU temps achieved. That is, maybe you want a case that does a decent cooling job on both the CPU and the GPU, without over-kill on either the CPU or GPU by itself. If you sort in this order, you get a different picture of these coolers. I've taken the trouble to do that for readers, as shown in the table below. I added the Average (of CPU and GPU temps achieved) to each line, and then sorted by that Average. An interesting thing to note is that the range of GPU temps achieved spans only 6 degrees C, while the range of CPU temps achieved spans about 22 degrees C. As you might expect, the Average spans a middle number of about 13 degrees. Best Noise-Normalized Thermals (for Air Cooling) (CPU and GPU fan fixed, case fans slowed to meet total system noise of 36 dBA) Cooler CPU (C) GPU (C) Avg (C) Lian Li Lancool III 44.6 54.0 49.3 Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 51.9 46.9 49.4 Lian Li Lancool 215 46.7 52.7 49.7 Phanteks P500A Digital 50.0 49.6 49.8 Fractal Torrent Compact 44.3 55.8 50.05 Fractal Torrent 45.6 54.6 50.1 Lian Li Lancool II Mesh 49.8 50.8 50.3 Cooler Master HAF 500 47.9 54.1 51.0 Fractal Meshify 2 50.7 51.7 51.2 Phanteks P400A RGB 50.5 52.3 51.4 NZXT H7 Flow 50.2 53.8 52.0 be quiet~! Silent Base 802 50.5 54.2 52.35 Phantekx P360A 50.9 54.5 52.7 Corsair 5000D Airflow 48.9 57.9 53.4 Fractal Pop Air RGB Stock 48.3 58.8 53.55 Fractal Meshify 2 XL 53.1 54.4 53.75 Cooler Master TD500 Mesh 55.7 52.0 53.85 Corsair 4000D Airflow 54.5 53.3 53.9 Fractal Meshify 2 Compact 49.1 58.9 54.0 Lian Li 011 Air Mini 47.8 60.5 54.15 Corsair 7000D Airflow 49.7 59.3 54.5 NZXT H510 Flow 57.4 56.4 56.9 Montech Air 1000 Lite 53.6 60.9 57.25 Fractal Define S2 Vision RGB 57.9 59.7 58.8 Corsair 4000D Solid 61.3 56.5 58.9 NZXT H5 Flow 55.9 62.0 58.95 Hyte Y60 58.6 59.7 59.15 Lian Li Lancool II 62.9 56.6 59.75 Phanteks P300A 66.5 57.8 62.15

In the process of building out a server with a Meshify 2 XL, with all the core components in place and a Noctua tower cooler I can barely hear it even with the side off

Hmm... have you considered open air chassis?

Its so noisy at high speed and thermals are not inpressive for a GPU

Hard to please? What case gets closest to your “standards”

Did you look at Thermaltake and the Core P series? hmm

two limited editions now, Kronii just announced one

@@kirito1267 well, now im double salty yet happy

I understand you bought the normal model, not the compact or nano. Is It too Big for a mid case? Or smaller?

Lian Li's tyling looks a lot more sleek, and premium imo.

Lian Li's O11 Dynamic EVO and O11d-ROG are both better cases than the HYTE in my opinion ...

Lian li o11 look more cooler for me

I just use an external blu-ray drive for ripping. I actually have a HAF XB but the 5.25" are full of other drives and an external drive has more flexibility. FWIW, my NAS lives in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro, it has several 5.25" bays. It's a chonker though. :D

The Pop is already in this video...?

@@samiraperi467 What CPU and GPU do you recommend for ripping my 4K Blu-ray disc collection? I want to build my first Plex server but don't know exactly where to begin. Some people recommend using the Nvidia Shield as a Plex server. Thoughts???

@@GamersNexus My understanding was that it was more of a coincidence the Pop had an optical slot because the category was simply "Best Mid-Range". Would you say that the Pop would win if the category was specifically for a best case that also supports 2+ optical slots as well?

@@PSYCHOV3N0M I laughed a bit at the absurdity of hardware for ripping, but it makes sense in the context of hosting. Virtually any CPU will do for hosting Emby and PLEX as long as there is OS support for it, hence why a low power Android box works. I don't know if external blu-ray drives can rip, but capable internal drives certainly exist. However, you will need more powerful hardware depending on features you want. If you already have a PC lying around, throwing in a P400 (or T400) gives you several good quality 1080p transcoding streams in case you share with family/friends. If you do want to CPU transcode your rips, again any CPU is able to but you might be interested in newer hardware for the efficiency and processing power for impatience or a big backlog of waiting transcodes. If your media is already in a shareable format (like using your gaming rig to do the heavy lifting) you can save money and power by only allowing direct streams on a modest device. Linux is free. tl;dr: ripping? anything that has a drive that allows it. Plex/Emby/Jellyfin? Anything with OS support. Live transcoding? low cost GPU (currently nvidia wins in qulity) Fancy features like autodetecting intros? better CPU and more RAM.

How is the LianLi LANCOOL 2 mesh better than the 3?

@@sammiller6631 style and local availability/price

How good is Lancool 2 mesh? It's cheaper than the 3 mesh.

sup man, long time no see

@@mrsideperson8405 been fighting with my pc dang gup decided to take a crape on me

I think this is a great idea. Also can't wait for the G500A review

I too would love this. There's way more to a case than the fans it comes with.

Its a very good case with a very competitive price 👍

Btw they have a review on the 500dx kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKmelMqTsNG6qnk.html

@@usbsol I know, but that case is hardly the same :)

The 215 is still great!

Modern cases are total trash and just waste so much space for no functional reason.

So happy to have helped out with that review back then! It's still a good case!

4090 with air cooling wouldn't fit or would absolutely bake with fans against the glass side panel.

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The Corsair D series made it into multiple Best Cases round ups over the last two years now.

@@GamersNexus Fair enough :D

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