Best Running Shoes - for me in 2024

Рет қаралды 5,770

Күн бұрын

In this video, I give an overview of all the shoes I have used this year and rate them by the number of miles I have worn in each shoe collection to determine which have been the best (and indeed worse) ones for me in 2024 so far.
0:00 Introduction
1:04 Puma Velocity Nitro 3
3:28 Saucony Endorphin Speed - 2 RunShield, 3, 4
7:14 Nike Vaporfly - 1, 2, 3
10:10 Nike Alphafly 3
10:58 ASICS Novablast - 3 & 4
12:23 New Balance Rebel v4
13:40 adidas Adios Pro 3
15:07 HOKA Mach 6
16:35 Saucony Endorphin Elite
18:10 Nike Vomero 17
18:58 Nike Dragonfly - 1 & 2
Subscriber count at time of upload: 6098
#pumarunning #endorphinspeed #vaporfly

Пікірлер: 75

@twrhancock Ай бұрын

Agree with you on the Velocity Nitro 3 Tom. Defiantly a softer (better) ride than the 2. Though still firn compared to many current shoes. I love it. And cheap. £55 in a sale. And incredible grip.

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Can't go wrong with £55 and I thought I was doing well getting them under £100. Yeah the Velocity Nitro 2 was odd. I quite enjoyed them then one day, albeit when it was about -2 deg C, they just felt really "flat" as if the cushioning had gone and had only done 100 miles or so in them at the time. Agree the 3 is still "firm" by modern day standards but certainly not too firm and although not a speed shoe, I am perfectly happy doing some strides in them at the end of a run which is always a good sign for a daily trainer.

@amandawalker4510 2 ай бұрын

Puma so underrated, I love the deviate nitro 2 , it got better after a few runs. Agree about keeping your ' exciting' shoes for races and speed sessions 😀

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Yeah been pleasantly surprised by the Velocity Nitro 3 especially for the price and Puma shoes seem to fit my narrow feet well. Think will look to get the next Deviate Nitro unless can see a real bargain on the 2.

@amandawalker4510 2 ай бұрын

@TimGrose just saw the next deviate nitro 3 today, more cushion , what a surprise 😮 lol

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

@@amandawalker4510 ah interesting will have to check it out.

@MateuszPitak 2 ай бұрын

I did 800 K in Deviate Nitro 2 since November...what a beast and work horse shoes. Great very grippy outsole. It was perfect for all late fall-winter-spring season in the UK. I am very intrigued by Nitro 3 coming. I hope they will be slightly more roomy in the toe department (deviate 2 tends to irritate my second toe on right foot from time to time)

@amandawalker4510 2 ай бұрын

@MateuszPitak they looked roomier, they never had a sample size for me to try. Outsole different too.

@lordedmundo23 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video Tim. Our preferences in shoes are incredibly similar - I suspect because I'm also (fairly!) light in weight and have a narrow foot. The Velocity Nitro 3 is my most used daily trainer (gradually softened up and now fills great at 100km), some tempo work in the Saucony Endorphin 1 and racing in the Vaporfly. My Deviate Nitro 2 gets a lot of use also and I still have two pairs of Zoom Fly 3 in my rotation, which have a fair few miles left in them - these are of course a good training companion to the Vaporfly. Hoping the v6 will be worth getting...

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

I must try a Deviate Nitro and from other comments here seems a v3 should be out before long. Can’t say however I was ever that enthused by the Zoom Fly 3 or 5 which I tried. Both seemed heavy bricks in my UK 13 for supposed up tempo shoes.

@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Ай бұрын

The Adidas Takumi Sen is extremely light and narrow, which could suit you.

@SagasuRunning 2 ай бұрын

Interesting thoughts as always. Shed videos are the best. Interesting on the NB4. I really enjoy it but after 200k into it I rarely find myself reaching for it now. I have been picking the Mach 6 over it as of late. Agree on the Velocity Nitro 3, Pegasus versatility in a "boring" package that gets the job done very well.

@st4331 2 ай бұрын

I also find that I keep reaching for the Mach 6. It's really grown on me and has become my go-to shoe with a nicely cushioned and enjoyable ride.

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Perhaps we just find a shoe we like for a purpose a bit more than several other contenders and think may as well wear this one especially when out of a review cycle for a video or something. That said first time I have mentioned the Velocity Nitro 3 in one. Peg 41 is coming soon on Nike UK so will be sure to pick that one up especially in the "luminous" colourway I like!

@SagasuRunning Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose I’m looking forward to discussing the Peg41.

@JohnBirtchetSharpe 2 ай бұрын

I had a full rotation of the puma's for 2 years (version 1 and 2 of the deviate family ) until the shoe width (and a bunion) put that to rest (had some great runs in them though) , but when shoe stretchers would not even resolve it (partially down to power tape) then they all went to a charity shop. In the meantime I am loving the rebel v4 , as I have a smaller wide foot 🙂 race shoes .. Saucony pro 3 are a safe pair of hands the first Mizuno rebellion 1 has been my favorite and I felt most natural in the puma deviate elite 2's but would end up a bloody mess due to the tightness in the forfoot and toe blisters.. Vapourflies is a nice shoe but never quite had enough foam in the forfoot for me , felt slappy .. but then I do have a very odd trot

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Perhaps illustrates well that shoe choices are largely dictated by foot shape and logical the narrowish Puma ones might suit me better than the wider Rebel v4 and vice versa for you!

@tworunningbrooms 2 ай бұрын

Pro 3s an absolute beast. I've got over 500 miles in my first pair and the uppers have been OK since about 100 miles. Although the first time I wore them at the Colchester 15 I thought I'd broken a foot bone! Funnily enough Dawn much prefers the 2s. The 3s are my marathon shoe of choice, although given events so far this year that's not a glowing endorsement

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Ah good to know. I realised I underestimated slightly what I said on my mileage in them and have actually done 240 miles although that has taken pretty much exactly 2 years now. Yeah hard to think your marathon struggles are really much to do with shoe choice. I think I might have also preferred the 2 if they did same in my actual size. I still did a fair amount in them even so before passing on to a viewer!

@BenNotley 2 ай бұрын

Great to see a broad selection of shoes used Tim. From the everyday daily trainers to the everyday carbon racers. What would you recommend for a leisurely plod along the tow paths or maybe even a session in the gym?

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

It is a tough one for sure. I did try the Boston 12 which seemed to be a firm favourite of some KZfaqrs although oddly never seem to appear in too many videos after initial review. Personally I found it firm but stable which must be handy for towpaths as you don’t want to wobble and then fall in. As such zero runs in mine this year so failed to make my list but never say never. That said the Kinvara Pro must be worth a shout. Never tried it as heard it was heavy, expensive and firm but stable. You could of course use it for shopping or just taking the kids about.

@al_conroy 2 ай бұрын

I have to agree about the adios pro 3, the midsole and outsole is great but that Upper bites during long runs. I ended up putting a cushion pad under the tongue to stop the bite.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Yeah let's hope it is a bit better in v4. Is the AP3 your normal race shoe as well or something else?

@al_conroy 2 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose No, I find the AP3 a good long distance training shoe, but I am very much like yourself in camp Vapourfly! I managed to pick up a few pairs of v1s & v2s on the sports pursuit site a few months back so my racing shoes are sorted, probably for the next 2 years!

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

@@al_conroy ah good move. There is one VF2 on my size on there that might tempt me. I also got a pair of VF1 from StockX recently which felt nice when debuted them in a 5K.

@sagsdothedu 2 ай бұрын

I keep returning to the VP 2 as the best workout shoe. I’d be interested in trying the VP 3 but can’t justify another pair of trainers 😵‍💫. You tried the Puma Fast-R? Good in transition and stable. I have narrow feet like you and get on well with them.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Do you the Vaporfly 2 and 3? If so yeah done the majority of my workouts in the 2 this year but I feel if I want to feel my "fastest" I reach for one of my v1s and I recently got a new pair from StockX which am kind of saving for races.

@TolunayOrkun Ай бұрын

You have a pretty good gait and not chewing the lateral side of the heel like many of us. For getting decent mileage from racing shoes after their racing life is over, I am using "Shoe Goe" to build-up the area. I wish shoe manufacturers had strengthened the rubber in that area. It would barely add 1 or 2 g. Heel is already a smaller area by its nature, they can easily reduce the thickness or coverage in the forefoot without affecting the performance and durability for forefoot landers but when you do that to the heel lander the durability of the shoe is significantly compromised.

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Been some years since I tried "Shoe Goe". Just a good excuse for new shoes these days. Kind of jinxed me with that nice compliment as have picked up what has seemingly turned out to be an Achilles injury and have to stop running for hopefully not too long. A friend of mine destroyed 2 pairs of Vaporfly 3 after just a few runs in each. The heel rubber basically fell off! These days he can beat me easily in an actual race though so takes all sorts.

@TolunayOrkun Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Oh, I am sorry to hear that. I had an serious Achilles injury in 2020 during speed workouts and it took a 2-weeks of non-running and a slow return to running after that. I hope yours is not that serious.

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

@@TolunayOrkun thanks and hope so. Been 2 weeks now and still not feeling great.

@TolunayOrkun Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose If you have a massage gun with a soft tip, massaging around the Achilles (very lightly, no pressure) helps with the recovery by increasing blood flow to the area. You can wear taller socks and massage over the socks to reduce the pressure.

@robin29991 2 ай бұрын

I' ve been missing your Shoe Revies, Tim;) But I see you haven' t really been buying too many new ones. I' m training for a Trail race now so I have bought quite a few, mostly Salomons and the odd Hoka.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

What you mean an actual trail as opposed to a towpath :) But yeah still feel am buying lots of shoes but tend to agree with what Matt Fox said the other day that he has more shoes than he really needs and so ought to get on and wear them. Besides for me there have been a fair few of late (the 2 Metaspeed ones, TS10) that just don't come in my size and several other rather expensive ones like the Endorphin Pro 4, NB Elite 4, that Cielo Hoka one that I just think what point would they really serve me when I just keep still reaching for my various Vaporflys.

@robin29991 2 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose I'm not brave enough to touch foot on a towpath. I heard just a few steps at goal pace will shred your shoes worse than a belt sander;) Want to run the UTML 35k(Luxembourg) in September...

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

@@robin29991 ah good luck. Presume goal pace sessions will be ramping up over the summer once found out what the goal is.

@josephgonzalez_ 2 ай бұрын

Haha, literally 20 miles for each of the 2 VF3s I had and sent back. Chris (Sagasu Running) found pictures of the potential new outsole at the rear of a possible new VF4 which looks more streakfly by design. Gets away from the current tiered pattern and likely to suit my rear heel striking better! Puma Velocity Nitro 3 looks like an “interesting” option - I’m looking for a daily plodder.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Sure you weren't the only one to have those problems so am sure they will be looking at it. Overall think the VF3 has been a little bit of a disappointment but such a high bar to follow. My main problem was the rather generous upper and I still prefer the relatively slightly firmer feel of the v1 (and largely v2).

@josephgonzalez_ 2 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose agree. The VF3 feels more a marathon shoe to me. Nowhere near as aggressive as the VF1 or 2, and lacking the snap. I was toying with the idea of giving the AF3 a go after other positive reviews (like Andy’s) but I think I might wait for you to give it another go. I know you and I concurred in the AF1 so are likely to have a similar experience in the AF3.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

@@josephgonzalez_ It is the odd though with the VF3 as when I have done say 400m road reps in them they felt "fast" and the one "decent" 5K I did last year was in them. Equally I had a shocker 10K in them at Chichester early this year and one other 5K wasn't great. Of course the latter two mostly just was on poor form but did not feel the VF3 "helped". Chichester

@CharlesLately Ай бұрын

Interesting video. To me, VF2 are still the best for racing from 5K up to HM (and I own a ton of shoes). I just found from comments below we actually have the same weight (I'm 73.5KG) and narrow feet (though I wear US13 instead of US14) and unsurprisingly we tend to like the same shoes. Within VF range, I tend to prefer VF2 (just raced a 10K this morning in them) - after the race I just realized/remembered how much these shoes disappear on foot. IMHO VF3 are good shoes -though I tend to like them more for HM .. faster than that I find I struggle with the foam.. need to put too much work to get something back. My opinion is that Nike trimmed the foam for slightly heavier runners and this could be why Elites don't like it much. I found also Andy from Running Channel had the same feedback in a fairly recent video ("He has to fight with the foam at faster paces") and I think he should have roughly the same weight than ours. I'm a bit puzzled about your feedback on VF3 (better for shorter distances???). Cheers!

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Ah interesting we are similar in more ways than one. Are you tall as well ? I am 1.95m or 6'5". TBH the furthest have raced in the VF3 is only 10K largely as haven't been doing longer ones of late. That was a terrible race for me and I think said more about me than whatever shoes I had on. Conversely my fastest 5K last year was also in the VF3. I also meant whenever I have used them for short fast road intervals like say 400s or even 200s then they have felt good but then again it is often just a case of getting on with it. Initially I had a lot of problems getting a lockdown in the VF3 as found the upper quite generous. I recall they added 2mm of ZoomX by reducing the outsole rubber by the same amount which must be why they feel a bit softer. I still think I prefer the VF1 and indeed recently bought a new pair from StockX.

@CharlesLately Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Forgot to mention I'm 1.85m so yeah fairly tall runner though not as tall as you are. For VF3 yeah.. I think it's a mixture of foam, uppoer and real drop (I know runrepeat mesured it to 11mm for VF3.. I know some people say that it's lower than that because you compress the foam but still I feel they're higher drop than VF2). For the outsoles I totally agree with you.. my VF2/VF3 have more than 100/150K in them and outsole basically looks new aside some colors washing out: I guess runners complaining for VF's outsole durability are either heavier or have probably a different running gait that is stressing the outsole for some reason. To give some context I know a French runner (sub elite) who put nearly 900K in VF2s and could still use them for training.

@vincewarne228 2 ай бұрын

I’d like to see a shoe off with the Speeds. I remember the Speed 2 being brilliant but not sure if that’s nostalgia!

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

I did end up wearing the Speed 2 Runshield last night after filming this although it had dried up by then. I was only "plodding" but they weren't that great for that but did the job well enough. I have packed my Speed 4 so will see if can do something against the Speed 1.

@markoljustina 2 ай бұрын

nostalgia

@garydover2680 2 ай бұрын

Hoka Mach 6 amazing shoe👍

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Glad you are getting on with them. I probably need to give them another go as can't really say that they have been amazing for me.

@youpigirl5731 2 ай бұрын

J'ai découvert Puma : les excellentes deviate nitro FM, en ce moment j'ai les deviate nitro elite (j'aime moins) et les Fast R nitro elite 1 (des bombes ces chaussures). Elles sont toutes excellentes avec un amorti ferme (carbone), la Fast semble avoir une semelle qui s'use vite et à éviter sur bitume mouillé

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

I probably need to try some more Puma shoes. I have the original Deviate Nitro Elite and Liberate Nitro which were good if not spectacular.

@Mr80Miles 2 ай бұрын

Tried out the AF3 briefly. Felt like way too much shoe for a lightweight like me. Felt massive, heavy and very clunky. Takumi sen is much more my style. Sent my Mach 6 back, really like the much cheaper Axon 3, which is everything I hoped the Mach 6 would be but wasn’t.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

We seem to have similar tastes. Some people seem to get rather defensive about the AF3. If it works for you great, if it doesn't well it doesn't. That said I ought to give it another go. I have the TS9 and although like it (and good for my narrow feet) never really found it stood out over the Vaporflys for me. I have been looking out but oddly the TS10 oddly seems to go to a UK 13 (UK 12.5 equivalent in say Nike) which is 0.5 size less than my other adidas shoes. And yeah I feel I am forever "hopeful" with Hoka but always feel relatively disappointed.

@Mr80Miles 2 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose that’s annoying there’s no TS 10 in your size! I think on a straight, fast course my VF2 just has the edge over the TS8 (though I find them a bit too aggressive and make me land with a sort of scuff at the front). Got the sky paris which I much prefer to the VF2, less aggressive and no landing scuff. They feel a bit like pumped up versions of the TS!

@hawaiifranke7637 2 ай бұрын

No trail shoes? I remember the water crossing you did in the Peg 4 trail gtx .... did that stream run dry?

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Ha ha no - probably has turned into a torrent. I still use the Peg 4 Trail GORE-TEX but just haven’t been running off road at all of late so did not make the list.

@noscop444 2 ай бұрын

Mind if I ask about your weight? Very useful information to understand your shoe preferences.

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Sure 73.5 kg on scales this AM and I am 1.95m tall so bit of a beanpole and I take UK 13/US 14 shoes.

@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Ай бұрын

Have you tried the Adidas Takumi Sen? It's very light & narrow, may be ideal for you.

@TimGrose Ай бұрын

Yes I have got the 9 although not used it for a while. True is light and narrow although never found it works "better" for me than Vaporflys.

@aliasgharkhoyee9501 Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Consensus on the Lighstrike Pro foam seems to be that it gets much better after about 30-40km of 'break-in' - initially it's dense and not maximally soft & bouncy. So if you can, I'd recommend testing it out for maybe 50-100km and see if that works for you too. For me personally, it has definitely been the fastest shoe so far (even faster than the Prime X2 Strung).

@davidpearson6011 2 ай бұрын

Have you tried the Adidas Adizero Boston 12

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

I have. The fact I haven't worn it once this year perhaps says it all for me. TBF it is not bad but in just in my size feels rather clumpy and firm and I struggled to find much love for it. Did just under 100 miles in them last year.

@JonathanPerkins 2 ай бұрын

You said “puma deviate nitro 3” however I wasn’t aware a three has been released last year -

@dbo4506 2 ай бұрын

He said velocity nitro 3 not deviate

@TimGrose 2 ай бұрын

Yeah thanks I hope I said Velocity Nitro 3 as that is the one I have and indeed the lime green shoe in the thumbnail of this video. It seems from other comments that a Deviate Nitro 3 must be on the way as it has been seen if not yet for sale.