Best-Selling Floor Plan: Travato 59K vs Ethos 20T Face Off! in 2023
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Күн бұрынFace Off! Best-Selling Floor Plan: Travato 59K vs Ethos 20T in 2023
The Winnebago Travato 59K is the best-selling Camper Van in North America with its twin bed, rear bath floor plan. It is copied by nearly every large volume Class B RV builder on the Ram Promaster chassis.
This video looks at the subtle differences in the floor plan to help you determine which you might like better.
Travato 59K by Winnebago with an MSRP of $182,947
VS
Ethos 20T by Entegra with an MSRP of $160,298
FEATURES Common To Both Models
In-cab seating with table functionality
Compact galley behind drivers seat
Two “twin” sized beds
Ample storage in overhead cabinets
Under bed storage
Rear wet-bath with fold down sink, wet flush toilet, and shower
Wardrobe and storage in bathroom
Ram Promaster chassis
VIDEO TIME POINTS
00:00 Intro
00:48 Cab area, Travato
01:37 Galley, Travato
02:48 Overhead cabinets, Travato
03:45 RV system controls, Travato
04:36 Twin beds and under bed storage, Travato
06:18 Wet bath and wardrobe, Travato
08:34 Scott’s interior summary, Travato
09:34 Exterior, Travato
11:10 Ethos by Entegra
11:37 Cab area, Ethos
12:27 Galley, Ethos
13:22 Overhead cabinets, Ethos
14:37 TV and stereo system, Ethos
15:08 Table, Ethos
15:23 Twin beds and under bdd storage, Ethos
17:10 Digital RV system controls, Ethos
17:26 Wet bath and wardrobe, Ethos
19:17 Scott’s interior summary, Ethos
20:11 Exterior, Ethos
21:46 Final thoughts
22:45 Join live Q&A + Community Chat on What’s Up Wednesday!? 6 PM CT on KZfaq Live
22:53 PRICE & SPECS for Travato by Winnebago
23:59 PRICE & SPECS for Ethos by Entegra
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@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
***??? Which twin-bed rear-bath floor plan Camper Van builder do you prefer? FAST FWD using Video Time Points in Video Description below (click “more”). In-person events and more at www.GoSmallLiveLarge.com Live A&A + Community Chat at 6 PM CT each Wednesday on KZfaq Live for What’s Up Wednesday!? Join us, and thanks for watching !
@AK-ic1yj Ай бұрын
The 2 separate beds are like being a married couple on a 1950's tv series. Lucy!!!!! (I love the 2 separate beds even more than Lucy!!) )
@heatherlucero2530 28 күн бұрын
Ethos because I want the option to be able to hook up at an RV park sometimes and boondock other times.
@daradubinet 2 ай бұрын
i have the travato. i love it! great run through 😊
@agv3581 Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see your videos, You are one of the feww still living the rv life after the Covid19 passed.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Appreicate you. And yes, one of the few still doing Vanlife as a full-time traveler, now of year 5. Thanks for noticing :)
@patti3566 Жыл бұрын
Comparing class B's on the Ram Promaster 3500, I'd prefer the Coachmen Nova 20RB which has a similar floorpan with even nicer fit and finish in my opinion but out of the 2 you showcased in the video, I'd lean towards the Winnebago Travato. Nice job!
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Hi Bucket List
@elainemcintyre4407 Жыл бұрын
Loved that the bathrooms are at the back ,I hope Winnebago out here in Australia will come out with either of those floor planes. Always good to see new styles & Timbers ,stoves etc used thank you Scott ,Elaine from Queensland,Australia.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Australia 🇦🇺 !!!
@Rick-ip3cm 2 ай бұрын
59 k for me
@davidsantoro3945 3 ай бұрын
I just recently bought the Entegra Ethos, and wife and I love it
@gosmall.livelarge 3 ай бұрын
Congrats David
@richkurtz6053 Жыл бұрын
Good comparison Scott! As an Ethos owner(20A not the 20T) you did a very fair comparison. I'll abbreviate T and E in my comparison. A few things that are not obvious: T-Sumo Springs, E-EZ Drive (Helwig helper springs and anti-sway). T-18 gal of fresh water, E-24 gallons of fresh water. T-TV antenna, E- Winegard Connect 2.0+ TV, WIFI, LTE Internet. T-Ultraleather seats are optional, E-Standard. E-Overhead shelf above windshield visors, T-none. T-Nautilus panel inside rear doors, E-all connections left exterior. Both have backup cameras, T-also has digital rearview mirror. T-TV Soundbar, no stereo, E-ceiling /exterior speakers, DVD/stereo. T-Individual control panels for house systems, E-Firefly touch panel. My comments: I like the Travato Lagun table and slat bed system for bed area. Ethos airplane table for passenger. If I was going to do system modifications I would prefer Travato's controls, but for simplicity of use I prefer the Firefly panel. I think the chrome running boards and chrome exhaust on the Ethos look classier. The painted front facia on the Travato looks nicer, but the Ethos plastic wont chip with rocks. I like the locking "safe" in the Travato. I like the 3 wardrobe drawers on the Ethos. I like the Ethos invisible cabinet latches. I like the all glass (passenger style chassis) of the Ethos rather than the black painted sides of the Travato. Which one would I buy? Tossup. We bought the Ethos 20A with the 4 captains chairs. Nobody else offers that floorplan on a Promaster. Whichever you prefer, you'll get a great adventure. BTW Scott toured our van at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcl3m6RpqarQfYE.html
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Such great info Mr. Kurtz. Thanks for going into such great detail for others to learn from. And you are promoting the tour video we did together! What a champ :)
@monicae67 5 ай бұрын
Holy buckets! You did a thoughtful comparison! Kudos! 👏 I prefer the cabinets on the T. I’m not keen on the high gloss finish. Love the safe compartment that the T has! I prefer the table on the T but like the entertainment system of the E and the cooktop on the E is so much better!! The cooktop on the T looks so cheap!
@garykray 4 ай бұрын
Your additional info was what I was looking for. Thanks, I'm steering toward Ethos.
@cathysupp9493 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done, as always! The Ethos tables are identical to previous Tk years I prefer the Ethos propane cooktop, but I still want my big bathroom in my Tg
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Howdy Ms Supp !
@kenplummer4644 Жыл бұрын
Noticed the travato blinds crinkle a bit when you were retracting and opening...kinda wondeer if they will get stuck, rip or last.....
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
they can be fussy but usually snap back into place. mine have held up well
@michaelclark9134 Жыл бұрын
Mine do the same...that is one minor improvement that Winnebago should definitely fix!
@monicae67 5 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing! It looked like the blinds were made of paper and ready to tear!
@shirleyolivas1228 2 күн бұрын
Edgar to see price. Like both Camper vans.
@karensedlacek1252 Жыл бұрын
Scott, Thanks for the great video. The Travato would be my choice. The quality of the build is more important to me than the minor other differences.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Well said Karen
@amiralions2681 7 ай бұрын
Great comparison Scott! If Coachmen hadn't come out swinging with those solid wood cabinets and next year a double lithium pack, it would have been down to these two.
@gosmall.livelarge 7 ай бұрын
Good to know
@waynewynn5892 Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, great video as always. As a owner of a 2022 Ethos 20TL, the lithium version, Ive been happy with everything except plumbing. The TL has the Timberline hydronic heating system and they used reinforced braided vinyl water lines. All of the lines to my heat exchanger eventually leaked. I end up have to have them all replaced with PEX. The heat exchanger gets up to 175 degrees and the line are rated 180 up 80 psi. But the Renogy system is great but not to user friendly. You have to leave the inverter on the charge from shore power but the 2nd alternator recharges fairly quickly. I was at about 70% and drove about 2 hours and got back to 100%. Overall the ownership has been good, but its the dealership we bought and with Texas's franchise laws makes it impossible to take it anywhere else for service under warranty in the state of Texas. If there is anything I would change is where I bought from. Thanks again for the great content.
@markwilliams5676 Жыл бұрын
Howdy from Frisco, TX. We bought our rig from out of state and we have had 2 different dealers perform warrantee service on our rig, (2022 Tavato KL). Also, Chevy, Ford, Ram etc. Dealers perform warrantee service even if you did not buy from them. They are all francised. Maybe this is a manufacturer stipulation to bring to seller for warrantee service, not The State of Texas. I would encourage you to try to take your rig to another dealer for service, if you choose. Good Luck !🤠
@markwilliams5676 Жыл бұрын
@@waynewynn5892 Well hopefully you have everything sorted now, so you can enjoy your rig. We love ours! FYI We have also made a couple of road trips to Winnebego Factory Service in Iowa for warrantee work. They have all of the parts right there. We camped right on their grounds. It was a nice little getaway adventure. Maybe Integra has a similar program.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing Wayne
@sgardner4156 28 күн бұрын
Toss up but there's got to be a way to put a bigger fridge with a freezer in these rigs
@bertfisk1194 10 ай бұрын
Scott what is the phone holder your using to video tape
@Van_Liberty Жыл бұрын
Ethos wins on touch pad controls and likely has an app for your phone. Continuous cabinet space with concealed latches, exterior system features, awning tie down latches and a proper engine exhaust pipe that directs down. One could retrofit LAGUN mounts and just use the table top for joining the beds. That would take up storage for table tops for the LAGUN mounts, though. Travato wins on under bed storage, driver/pass front tables, LAGUN mounts, rear door bug screen, walnut wood grain walls. Happy Travels, Scott...
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
howdy V L
@iglapsu88 Жыл бұрын
I'll go with Travato
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
excellent
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
excellent
@Rick-ip3cm 2 ай бұрын
I am 6.2" am I going to have a problem in the driver's seat leg room
@rickbakker6603 5 ай бұрын
59 k for us
@robertparry3476 Жыл бұрын
We have the 2020 Travato KL. The Ethos seems to copy the older 2020 K with the airplane table and dinette table. But Ethos has firefly lighting and tablet control a stepup and probably allows dimming of lights. Water connections on outside -less stealth but you dont have to open and leave door open to attach water hoses. The ethos came with better ladder AND spare tire and tire holder!!! Thats a $1,000 upgrade over the Travato with no spare tire.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Well said Robert
@daradubinet 2 ай бұрын
i have the travato and not being able to fill without doors being open in inconevenient. agreed! they seem so similar!
@stephenstringer3689 Жыл бұрын
Still like the Travato better but prefer the open overhead storage...wonder why WB stopped doing that and if you could take one divider out to accommodate longer items like golf clubs or chairs?
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Good question Stephen
@bjtravelersRV 5 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@ontheroadwithtonyandnancy4305 Жыл бұрын
Great review Scott. I personally would choose the Travato 59K. It just seems more of a quality build. I do have a problem with both table types. Having used both systems in class B RVs, I can say that they are both cumbersome! What I would personally do would be to have a folding table stored under the long bed, and pull it out whenever it’s needed. Again, great work!
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for wathcing
@IMB322 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍Travato 59k
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
yes !
@accordionmusic929 15 күн бұрын
why all shades are broken?
@shirleyolivas1228 2 күн бұрын
So what about price?
@markwilliams5676 Жыл бұрын
🤠This Ethos is a "copy cat" of the older style Travato K. Scott, It is too bad they didn't "copy cat" the old Travato G floorplan that you love so much....😎
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark
@michaelclark9134 Жыл бұрын
Seems like this is the common concensus! I agree 💯!
@michaelclark9134 Жыл бұрын
I am one not to be asked...I am a GL man all the way!!
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Yes you are sir
@philipevans1027 Жыл бұрын
I think we in the uk get more for your money in this class vans
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
agree with you
@janedoran1157 Жыл бұрын
Still prefer the Travato G/GL floor plan. Wonder why no one is copying that floor plan.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
It is a good question Jane
@michaelclark9134 Жыл бұрын
Ditto here!
@sybilburke1404 Жыл бұрын
Did you get your RV repaired….I must have missed it
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
thx for asking. RV is repaired. Video coming soon
@fairtaxguy60 Жыл бұрын
Ethos - lower price and larger fresh water tank.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
great
@letslookhere Жыл бұрын
There is a hefty price difference between these that you did not discuss.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike
@orthodiva7487 4 ай бұрын
Agree with the price. Hubby was leaning Travato but we ended up getting Jayco Swift 20T. Like having the sleek cabinetry and openness of the Swift cabinets. I dont want to have to open the back in order to plug in with the Travato
@lars1480 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but they misunderstand The whole idea with The Campervan concept with this layout - one of The great thing with The classic Campervan is that you Can sit or lay Down with The rear Doors open and enjoy The view - I don’t understand this They convert it into a Mobilehome 🤯 but typical US
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
thx
@gerryumali4281 Жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🇵🇭
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting !
@mikesmith3375 Жыл бұрын
I'll take it at $102,008!
@dwoodygura Жыл бұрын
That price is very good since it has the 2022 Ram chassis. A great buy. The 2023 Ram chassis has MANY safety upgrades and the larger console screen. Of course, a 59k with the 2023 chassis and house the currently runs about $137,000.
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Nice !
@jamesmyers5284 Жыл бұрын
I don't like the travato's puny fresh water tank
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
got it
@rodhelms-yt2pk Жыл бұрын
My fear is bteakdowns, transmission, engine, and
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Cannot live in fear. roll with it and get your journey on Rod !
@MyVantasticLifeVoyage Ай бұрын
The pentastar engine and 9-speed transmission are time proven to be very reliable. Maybe not exactly Toyota reliable, but last I checked Toyota wasn’t making a 95K knockoff yet.
@Thefloridarepublic Жыл бұрын
Boring floor plans
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Boring, but best selling. Which floor plan layout do you prefer?
@Thefloridarepublic Жыл бұрын
I would go for an advanced rv custom build...
@Thefloridarepublic Жыл бұрын
I can't sleep with my partner...I prefer permanent bunk beds separate from a living area. I don't like sleeping on the couch that needs to be made up and taken down each day.
@Thefloridarepublic Жыл бұрын
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