BEST Short Travel 29er? Santa Cruz Tallboy v4 - Part #1
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Күн бұрын#SantaCruz bicycles #Tallboy v4 build part 1! The redesigned lower link #VPP, a short travel 29er that I've been waiting for. It has Enduro geometry with 120/130mm travel, perfect replacement of my old Transition Smuggler. Santa Cruz calls it extreme country, downhiller's XC bike. D-country anyone? In this part 1 I'm taking a closer look at the frame, this is a 2020 Tallboy CC version and all the juicy details are included. Enjoy!
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⌚ Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:23 Tallboy CC v4 - Paint, finish, colors?
1:49 Shock, Large frame
2:16 Low link VPP
2:49 Front triangle details
4:01 Seat tube, clearance
4:26 Cable routing
5:16 Shock Flip Chip
5:44 Swing Arm, Chainstay Flip Chip
6:30 Rear brake compatibility, rear axle
7:09 Weight of Tallboy CC
7:41 Built like a tank!
8:20 Why Short Travel Tallboy v4?
9:17 Sizing, conclusions of Part 1
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@johnvocatura1019 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Looking forward to the rest of the build.
@joekoool16 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait to read your test on this bike
@PseudoReality28 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished building a 2021 Tallboy CC in Ebony. Absolutely love the bike. Pops off everything and feels pretty bottomless for a short travel bike.
@johnparrish336 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE my TB4!!!! Congratulations and enjoy!!!
@ThunderStruckMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! It's in awesome condition.
@pauls3616 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet frame. That will be a rocket for the trails in Southern Ontario.
@trailfork7815 3 жыл бұрын
as someone waiting for the 2022 aluminum nomad, cant wait!!
@soloxc7008 3 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz don’t make the Nomad in Aluminium anymore.
@TeamCykelhold 3 жыл бұрын
cool. grats with that awesome frame :)
@AOL0321 2 жыл бұрын
Love mine! I have the same color and really think its perfect for my trails!
@mtbohana 3 жыл бұрын
Sick bike and congrats.
@stepan.furman 3 жыл бұрын
Cool review, thanks. I own SC Megatower of the first generation with coil, C frame, S build, and L size. I like it very much. Even if I don't like some parts of this bike, the frames are really rocksolid.
@wonderwatch2239 3 жыл бұрын
Built up this frame a year ago, it’s fantastic..And the dropper post cable routing, it’s magic😉. Use it for all day xc with light tires and wheels, and switch to heavy tires for the bike park. Only small gripe, is a little cable rattle, in the tube in tube, would like a solution for that... A CC with pike ultimate ( silver) In XL, best bike ever ❤️🤘
@NorCalRide 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Santa Cruz color.
@johngibson712 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I just rode with a guy who has this bike in the same yellow color. At first I thought it was goofy, but the color really grows on you and really stands out from the crowd. If I ever get a Tallboy, I would try to get this color.
@nicholashines7686 3 жыл бұрын
I owned the white 2020. It was so rad. I sold it because I wanted to try the Ripley.
@SirCrashaLot 3 жыл бұрын
super sweet score on that set. Love the color too, all my fast stuff (FPV) is yellow or lime yellow.
@Pozitivi 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! congratulations mate have fun :) :) :)
@Pozitivi 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB You're welcome and also invited to enjoy from my riding videos too :) 🤘🏆🎉
@David-rb3tk 3 жыл бұрын
Interested to see the build. I have been thinking of buying this frame myself, Short travel bikes (115-130 mm) are the sweet spot for me. I currently am riding a 2019 Giant Trance 1 29er. Great for the compulsory climbing where I live and can handle the single track going down. Love the bike but would like to try this one. I usually buy a frame, strip as much as I can off the present bike and buy the rest. Most every thing on the Trance will fit on the Tallboy. Keep us up to date with the build and happy trails from Tasmania.
@teemu3370 3 жыл бұрын
Only got the C S-kit of this one. Hope to see the build and get some tips!
@abrahamchairez6291 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome I would love to get my hands on a TallBoy CC also
@certainperfectratio 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you build it up. I snagged one in purple and love it. Curious to see if you mess with any of the flip chips. On mine, I've tried the hi setting but not the long chainstay setting (xl frame). Flipping to the hi setting was surprisingly noticeable on the trail. Definitely fewer pedal strikes but I preferred the handling of the slacker angles, so I've settled on the LO.
@blambmtb6189 3 жыл бұрын
Got the exact bike XL! Looking forward to more of your videos
@blambmtb6189 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB frame only! Transfered the parts over my my ibis ripley v4 that I built up as well...sold the Ripley
@blambmtb6189 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Kinda splitting hairs between the two. But I Sacrificed a little uphill for some downhill. Tallboy is definitely stiffer and I feel more in the bike when riding in flat terrain
@Bodo19691 3 жыл бұрын
Exelent, as usual Excelent că de obicei, multumesc. Exact la bicla asta visez. Si mărimea si culoarea si echiparea. Nu poti sa crezi cum m-ai nimerit! Te salut, sănătate si succes.
@and30ers 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great bike and suspension setup you've got there! I have a 2020 Tallboy CC size XXL w 140 mm Pike, GX Eagle, Magura MT Trail + MT800 180 mm rotors, CF 30 mm wheelset, Maxxis Ikon 29x2.6" tires f/r. Weight only 12.3 kg excl pedals.
@and30ers 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB For sure
@Sasdinv40 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun with the Tallboy. I also own a Tallboy CC . I use a 140mm Fork in it.
@iancanuckistan2244 3 жыл бұрын
Nice find. There aren't any trails in Ontario that are beyond its capabilities. Unlike me where there are trails beyond my capabilities but not the bike.
@kevinborovsky3558 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great find/score. Looking forward to the build, but still wanna see the Prone build. Hahahah
@kevinborovsky3558 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB 👍🍺
@wyric 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing review of this one and the Arc. Considered buying Tallboy (aluminum) or Arc last autumn. But ended up with stumpjumper.
@wyric 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB no way, new stumpy is awesome! Arc is one of the best looking frames, and thinking buying it to build a second bike.
@michaelkay4464 3 жыл бұрын
Suprised you got a 290mm seatpost in there, I was under the impression maximum insertion was 270mm for the large. I had to email Santa Cruz about it.. given that it's not a listed spec they could have just estimated that though and it sounds like it's closer to 300... I'd really love to know what you are able to fit in there slammed and how it goes when you build it (because I selfishly would love to swap my 160mm yoke to a 185 or 210 one up ;) lol)! Thanks for the content, its a beautiful bike :)!
@Perception_ 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the 5010 was the extreme of the crop, because this name indicates the complete opposite of what it is. Glad to see there are more bikes with less suspension given the fact most brands just keep pushing on the downwards segment. The 5010 is actually my favorite bike, and I hope I can afford it at some point. Loving the 2022 model in yellow, also that it's not a matte choice because those tend to deal worse with scuffs and marks. The color of the bike you got there looks like olive to me, at least on video. Looks pretty good in my eyes. Most likely I will end up with a Propain Hugene instead, because I've been without a trailbike for so long now that I don't want to wait all that much longer. Compromises need to be made no matter what we end up with, and I'm sure I'll be satisfied with that as well.
@seniorscientist590 3 жыл бұрын
Love love love my tallboy! Out on it everyday and everyday I keep getting blown away.
@catg9196 3 жыл бұрын
Looks very similar color to my 2018 Hightower Lt with the Wicklow green in the video. 👍
@catg9196 3 жыл бұрын
Today Im going to be building up my short travel 2019 Norco Sight Carbon 29er. Im so excited 😆. Finally rounded up all the parts!
@TheProjectX3 3 жыл бұрын
What a gem to find! Wonder why would anyone sell this 2020 frame...
@jben4807 3 жыл бұрын
I have this bike and I really love it. It gets better and better the more I ride it, it’s like an extension of me. GREAT bike, couldn’t imagine anything else!!
@MTBwithMiguel 2 жыл бұрын
Fitting a dropper post in SC frames is a pain in the ass. I've stuck the cable so many times... :)
@jamble7k 3 жыл бұрын
looks great, do you still get a warranty with used sc frames?
@Papaciclista 3 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz had so many model for Enduro, trail , Dh... I wish i coul find a video to know better what model ist the best for each type of mode, you are so lucky I hope to soon the build dream video
@wonderwatch2239 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best comparison I can find: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9KAqcx-nanIlKs.html
@lvirag8401 3 жыл бұрын
that color is pretty close to the sammontana team yellow as seen on masi bikes in the late 70s/early 80s. the good thing about euro road bike paint is that it was amazingly variable even when new and faded quite readily, so you can never be completely wrong. the california masis had better paint quality, but that thin italian lacquer was always an adventure.
@lvirag8401 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB indeed, so for every philistine says it's baby poop, you get to say that it is a bike racing classic color
@user-nt8ug2tm5p 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have question related to 6:38. I am comparing installation of 180 mm rotor short and long chainstay. Please, tell me why i should use different "Front bolt". It doesn't make sense (and difference) for me
@stevenw97 3 жыл бұрын
ProBikeSupply! Great local shop of mine.
@thomaskuhn6541 3 жыл бұрын
So you went L for this Tallboy but M for the Yeti ARC, even though the reach for a size L on both is virtually identical (SC 470, Yeti 465)? Are you going to have an on trail ride review for the ARC at some point?
@guillermolinares9998 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! A littble bit of a dumb question, do you think that is possible to fit sram gx jockey wheels on a shimano xtr 9100? I am Struggling now to get the appropiate spares plus I run everything SRAM (chain, casette and chainring)
@MikeVanTassell 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the frame review! At 5' 10" myself, I am curious how you came to the conclusion to get the Large over the Medium. I am torn between which size is right for me.
@MikeVanTassell 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Thanks so much!
@MikeVanTassell 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Awesome! Large it is!
@em1355 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I have a XL Tallboy (2021) and stand 6'2", it was the "perfect" size for me.
@johnnyz.9684 3 жыл бұрын
I have also built one (just a deep purple colour) in XXL and this bike is amazing. Very efficient and fast for XC riding and very funny "downhill". I feel very safe on it. Enjoy and have fun!
@shawnoen1029 3 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz sells new headtube badges on their website.
@vtwl24 3 жыл бұрын
The box says it's made in Vietnam?
@jean-philippethomas1607 3 жыл бұрын
How many bikes do you have ? And only MTBs ?
@BigPaco213 3 жыл бұрын
i was gonna buy the tall boy for 2070$... idk if i should?
@CarlosSoto-re2oj 3 жыл бұрын
Odd question but did you recently called in to “The Prof G Show” podcast? 😂 just curious as your voice seems familiar.
@CarlosSoto-re2oj 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I’m sorry, it honestly sounded like you. It’s a tech and business podcast. The gentleman asked a KZfaq question and lives in Canada 🤷🏽♂️😂
@CarlosSoto-re2oj 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB cheers! 😄
@nick22954 3 жыл бұрын
very nice frame but for me the paint looks not in mint condition. i see a lot of swirls. if it was mine: i should polish that frame before build.
@nick22954 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB yeah. its a nice buy . cant wait to see it ride
@Andy-co6pn 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have been more excited if it was an Ibis in the box 😉
@TheNationalTrails 3 жыл бұрын
Day One... Need the long term review. Day 730... Need the long term review... Enjoy!!
@DaBinChe Жыл бұрын
SC are too over price
@DaBinChe Жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Don't trust used mtb
@deexeq6253 3 жыл бұрын
Красивый байк!
@azonicds 3 жыл бұрын
Had the 2020 Hightower, I'm sure you will like that tallboy! I had some rattle from the internal cable routing so I used shrink tube on the gear and dropper housing. Quality frame none the less!
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