Yes!! I absolutely LOVE the 5DSR. Could not agree more that it has tremendous value, even in 2021. When it can be found for 1/4 the cost of an R5, it definitely is a compelling option.

I love my R5. it's perfect for what I like to photograph, landscapes, portraits, and wildlife. Plus the RF lenses are amazing.

you ate a little humble pie for this vlog and i appreciate that you examined these two cameras in such a professional manner - great comparison review!

Great test Gary. Can't wait to see what you get next week.

Hi Gary .. Great video which was actually very relevant to me personally as I have been using a 5Dmklll for a couple of years now and just recently purchased a 5DSR second hand with a 12 thousand shutter count. Like you I love the mklll and it has served me well in many different scenarios, Landscapes, Portraits, Street photography, Wildlife & Music Festivals. Now I have the 5DSR I have found my photography has moved up another level in regards to the fine detail especially in the Landscapes and portraits. The one area I find where the marklll outshines the 5DSR is in low light situations where you need to push the ISO. In my opinion both of these cameras are outstanding pieces of kit and considering they have been around now for quite a few years they still stand up against many of the newer cameras of today but can be picked up at a fraction of the price.

Hi Gary, I've got the 5Ds and for me it fits my hands well and I have no reservations. I don't shoot in environments needing high iso's more than anyone else which is pretty much never. The detail is always there and the autofocus as reliable as any I've seen. For wildlife I challenge anyone who says it doesn't cut it also, the autofocus accuracy makes up for the lower tech tracking of the new boys on the block. Matched with high end glass, I can't see me changing any time soon. My son has an R7, sure it's great and good performance, my 5Ds seems to be better so far.

Great video Gary. I recently went from 5d3 to a 5dsr, i mainly shoot macro and there is a noticeable difference in the details when shooting at high magnification, I shoot up to 5:1. I'm so impressed with the sr. Like you I also have the 16-35L f4 and only see a noticeable difference if I pixel peep, and I owned my 5d3 for 8 years. I'm sure the r5 is awesome, quicker frame rate, better af etc, but I don't need a high fps for macro or landscape, and I use manual focus for pretty much all my shots, and I don't have a spare £4000 lol. Mirrorless is obviously the way forward for manufacturers now, but for me there is no significant benefit at the moment, maybe if I were a sports photographer it would make sense, but I'd probably buy a 1dx 2! Looking forward to next weeks video.

Outstanding…thanks so much!

thank you for sharing your files. I am unaware of anyone doing this

Like you, I was looking forward to the new version of the 5D so when that was not announced, and Canon stopped developing the EF lenses, I was left wondering how to upgrade my Canon 6D mark I? I bought the 5DS second hand in February for about the same price as you as I saw it as an upgrade, and I could still use my EF lenses. I am very happy with it for landscape photography, I’m enjoying the extra detail, which as you found, also helps with recovering shadows. I bought the Canon 100-400 mm a few years ago to give me more landscape photography options but I’ve also started photographing wildlife with it and the better autofocusing system of the 5DS over the 6D has helped with that too. It’s expensive to completely change systems so I think the 5DS was a better option for me.

Thanks for providing the raw files to play with. I imported both files into Lightroom 4.3. I ran the enhance feature ( game changer) on the Canon 3DIII file. The exported 5DSR file gives a 8688 x 5792 144m file, thats 36.2 x 24". The enhanced 3DIII is 11520 x 7680 253.1m or 48 x 32". I then down sampled the 5dIII to the same size as the 5DR file and had a look. At 100% there is very little difference in detail if any and the files are way easier to store and process. Printed output at this size would look identical. I could get the same result with a 5DII or any other 20 to 24mp camera and probably get better dynamic range and higher ISo sensitivity too. I'm of the opinion 20 ish mp is the sweet spot if you use computational software to help things along. Save your money and buy nice lenses.

Well done Gary, a genuine side by side real world comparison - why are such things so rare? I am 'stuck' with old tech but cannot justify any upgrade. I can afford it, I just cannot convince myself it is worth it. Would rather spend £1200 on travel to be able to use the old work horse. Stay safe.

Hi Gary , I have both of these cameras and I refuse to sell my 5DMK 3 because it’s a darn good camera.. one of nicest full frame bodies canon has made . Bang for buck …. The 5DSR is also a great camera if used correctly for its design.. landscape photography! They are worth keeping and worth more than they would sell for ! Great blog as always 👏👏👍

I have a Canon 6D mkII because I find it to be a smaller lightweight camera. It takes good images and I am pleased with it. I just need to find a decent light weight camera bag now that holds my tripod. I struggle to carry everything when I go out walking. I think you need to find the camera that suits you. I sometimes like Street photography so my camera is smaller and not as 'in your face' as other DSLR cameras, but it is also good for landscapes, seascapes, sports and portraits. I find it does everything I need it to.

I use the same cameras Gary. 2 Mark 3s for shooting weddings but a 5ds for my landscapes. Cant fault any of them. Great cameras.

Wow, that was a great test, Gary. You are so right, why spend money when your equipment is up to par. Showing off your latest purchase does not mean that you have a better camera.

I think that I stick to my 5D MKii and Nikon D800 ( huge dynamic range ). There is really no need for such huge mega pixel count. One must also consider the processing power required for such huge files, normally leading to a new super expensive high spec computer. Unless one is making a bloody good living out photography, I consider 24 MP the practical limit for a DSLR. Thanks for an honest demonstration.

The landscape in the video opens up to an alternative, even. Imagine you want an image angle of a 14mm full frame lens - but you have "only" 20mm. Imagine you "only have 24MP in the camera and you think you need more. Here we go. Place an Arca-compatible pan disc (1) on that cheap Manfrotto (MF) head in the video - the MF head now becomes a leveling base. Place a nodal slide with another Arca lock (2) in the pan base. Place the camera with an Arca compatible quick release mount (3) in the nodal slide. Find the nodal point of you lens (document that for future use). Now we have a setup that gives you a slightly wider image angle from 3 overlapping shots in vertical (aka "portrait") orientation. With 1/3rd overlap, imagine we use 24MP of left and right image and 8MP of the middle one - the sum MP now is 56MP. Set camera to all manual (ISO, WB, exposure time and aperture) and it is easy. Panorama stitching is best done in Photoshop - it does this exceptionally well. If you want to have more pixels for a huge print, you could sample the individual images up in e.g. Topaz Gigapixel AI that can take your image up to 32,000 (or so) pixels on the longest side, which you can subsequently stitch in Photoshop. You now have turned 6,000 into, say, 30,000, and 4,000+4,000+1,333=9,333 (*5 for upsampling) = 46,667 and this gives 1,400MP. (4) The nodal slide and rotating around the lens's nodal point is essential in the foreground (you'll have a lot with such wide angles). You could do this with a 50mm, but you need multi-row panorama shots. Photoshop can stitch that, but this ups the requirement to a 3D nodal slide that allows to bring the lens in the vertical nodal point too. (1) a simple indexing rotator for panoramas US$54.95 (sunwayfoto DDP-64SI @ B&H) (2) nodal slide rail with Arca type lock US$39.95 (sunwayfoto DMP-200R @ B&H) (3) could be an Arca compatible universal L-bracket US$29.90 (sunwayfoto DPL-08 @ B&H) - note that a universal plate does not "register" the camera in position with the sensor parallel to the bracket base and slightly more money buys a version that would do this, but is camera model specific. (4) you may need to upgrade your computer's memory or buy a new one ;) - note that Lightroom bases its processing on your raw image's long side resolution and that of your display. My €2,000 notebook could easily handle 2 displays of 4K next to each other until I upgraded to a 46MP camera and the notebook became essentially unusable. It now sits in the studio to write tethered shots to storage. Photographic disclaimer: hard wind, or subject motion in general, may become a challenge when you must build an image from multiple shots. Think of fast moving clouds and moving plants. Waterfalls where you want the water to be motion-blurred is not a problem, though. Photoshop is very clever and can stitch very difficult images - you'll have to experiment in order to build a feeling for what you can do with this setup.

I’ve had mine from the day they came out and still love the results from it, so I’m staying with it 👍🏽

Great video Gary. The majority of my photography is wildlife, but the odd time I do landscape, I used the Canon 6D Mark I (essentially the same as the 5D3). Loved it. What a great camera. I’ve since moved to Sony, but for different reasons. Cheers 🍻

Second image, ugly banding visible on both sensors in the boosted shadows, they both use Off sensor A/D conversion. Do the same on the R5 and it'll be clean as a whistle. The first Canon camera to use on sensor A/D conversion was the APS-C 80D, it has better dynamic range than these older full frame sensors. The R5 might seem like an expensive camera, but it does everything, and does it well. With a 5dSR you are pretty limited to landscape and studio only. Which of course is fine for what you do and still seems like a good deal. But I can throw anything at my R5 and it shines, try the eye AF with a RF 85mm 1.2 for example.. or birds in flight at 20fps with animal eye AF, focus peaking for perfect focus for landscape, and a base dynamic range that is so good that I often don't use my graduated filters anymore. For your next video, don't forget that the 5dsr doesn't have a AA filter meaning it will be slightly sharper than the R5, these filters are very useful for preventing Moiré in video, another area where the R5 is brilliant.

Great vlog Gary, thanks for sharing.

Great video!...One thing also worth noting, is the no difference between the 5Dmk2 and the Mk3...to my eyes!..have a great day ,...or evening!

Hi Gary, I've been following you for a while. I decided to buy a 5DS and not the 5DSR. My main reason was sharpness and not having the problem with the 5DSR know faults. I use a canon F2.8 mk3 70-200mm lens and a mk 3 - 1.4 teleconverter because it is sharper than the 100-400mm mk 2 lens. I also got bought a Sigma 150-600 contemporary for aviation photography, BUT the sigma 150-600 just cannot match the canon auto focus on my 70-200mm lens in poor light, for aviation photography. Overall the sigma is a good lens but it hunts and hunts for the subject like a fast moving aircraft. My conclusion Canon make fantastic lenses and my 5DS is not the perfect tool for aviation photography. But paired with a 70-200mm it is very good, and another drawback with the 5DS is the shots per second and memory card buffer and waiting time for next shots. One last thing I owned a Nikon P1000 They are useless don't buy one stick to canon.

Hey Gary, Another awesome Vlog, and what a beautiful location to test out both the camera's. The quality and standard that your trusty 5D Mark 3 is still able to capture compared to new tech I think is still exceptional. Granted the comparison regarding shadow areas there was a clear winner. Overall I'd still be happy to shot with the 5D Mark 3 for sure. As always love your content and much respect for the Continued knowledge and experiences you share with us members. Richie. X

Great video Gary and pleased that you are happy with your new camera .............. I recently upgraded and bought the Canon EOS R (which I'm very pleased with) ......... I have to say if I had seen this video prior to that, who knows ? 😊📷👍

A great test, thanks for that, and looking forward to the next. I shoot EOS R and 7DII and they are very different in their dynamic range characteristics. The R is not great when 'exposing to the right', as it cannot recover the highlights very well, but recovers the dark areas exceptionally well, whereas the 7DII recovers highlights exceptionally well, but the darker areas are as noisy as hell, and thank goodness for Topaz DeNoise. So for the R I always expose for the bright areas but keep a couple of stops below peak, and with the 7DII I am very conscious of the darker areas and too much ISO. Thanks for a great vlog.

I have a 5dsr for landscape and portraits until January I had a 5dmk3 but traded in for r6 mk2week after I bought it went up to Scotland. Found the r6 tracking focus was awesome with a 70/200 l series

Really enjoyed the vid Gary, I’ve had my 5D3 for years and won’t sell it,but, thinking of adding to my collection. Thought of a sr but as I shoot a bit of everything I don’t don’t feel it’s an ‘all rounder’ for me maybe a 5D4 or 1Dx is a better option, cost wise only a few hundred either way, food for thought, many thanks.

Interesting test and should be the same with the R5. I suspect that even though I own an R5 and absolutely love it, you will find the 5D SR still good for your needs as the pixel counts are similar and the extra features of the R5 won’t be useful for your type of photography.

Love the video I have the 5dsr its good to hear its still a good camera so many people rubbish it thank you :-)

Hi Gary, really interesting and informative video, thanks for sharing. I've been a Canon shooter for more years than I care to remember, I started digital photography with a 20D, (the only digital camera that I've bought new), I then went to a 5D, a 5DII and currently have a 5DIII, I was considering the purchase of a 5DSr but, after watching this, I don't think I'll bother, so thank you Gary, you've saved me a few quid.

You did not bother with drop test then Gary!.....Thank you.

Great video Gary, but to be honest what I got from both this video and your previous 'comparison' video is that its not about the camera..... its all about the glass. The differences between the 24-105 and the 16-35 seem much more pronounced.... to my eyes anyway. Looking forward to next weeks video with the R5

For those undecided, do not overlook the Pentax K1, or the K2. It has been described as the best landscape camera ever made. I have examined the K1. It is indeed impressive. However, I agree with Derek Gillian. The best camera is the one I am using.

Great comparison Gary. No arguing with that. I still swear by my 2 5D Mk3s. I bought James R Burns old one from him when he changed to the R6. The 5D3 is a better landscape camera than the 5D4 and 1DX and on a par with the Sony A7R3 and 4. It is my go to camera despite being the oldest of 7/8 that I have. However, I never considered the 5DSR. I have moved to Sony Mirrorless (when they were better than Canon) and won't buy another Canon DSLR but I wish you well with your 5DS - perhaps I should have bought it before the 5D4 - which is good for wildlife but trails after the 5D3 at landscape.

Great Camera Vlog, I upgraded to a 5d mk 4 years ago, from a mk 3 years ago, the dynamic range in the mk 4 was a lot better than the mk 3 and detail of the 30 MP sensor is great. Adobe's introduction of a 4x increase in detail has meant i am happy to stay with the Mk 4 for now, thanks for sharing. PS i bought both cameras second hand as all my canon gear>

Nice test Garry, I must admit I thought the 5D mklll would have had better DR. So very interesting test. Looking forward to the comparison with the R5 against the 5D SR.

The handy thing about your higher resolution sensor (5DSR) is that you effectively get the main advantage of a crop sensor thrown in for free. 51MP on full frame is the same pixel density as a 24MP crop sensor, so the rule that "200mm on a crop sensor gives the same field of view as 300mm on a full frame sensor" doesn't really apply in the real world on the 5DSR because of the tight pixel pitch (i.e. immense cropability)

Interesting findings. Looking forward to your thoughts on the 5r,

I enjoy my 5dsr the R5 is too expensive especially if you don’t need the af features. I would expect the R5 to deliver better DR but if you can’t get good landscape photos with the 5dsr the R5 won’t fix your problem . For wildlife and action I am more tempted by the R5 but it’s rather expensive !

Hi Gary, another great video and it's great to see the content you put out. I would have liked to have seen the results had you put the 24 to 105 on the 5Dsr too

Money for money the 5D3 wins but I see ( maybe me ) a depth and tonality superiority in the 5Dsr images. I've also loaded the two images and as well as the file size difference the sharpness and the ability to push and pull the 5Dsr images is quite impressive. By the way on the 5Dsr image there is a dust spot , which I'm sure you see but I'm not sure what the line is in the top right had corner? Is it in all your 5Dsr images?

I have saked myself this question before. Looking to upgrade an elderly 40d. Want to go full frame, I was concerned that 50+ Mp might be overkill for me, where as a good mkiii/mkiv would suffice. But at the prices and low shutter counts I'm finding , a no brainer really. Next video of yours for me would be how to get sharp images from 50+ mp sensor.( suppose my tripod technique needs to be better than usual). Brilliant video, Thanks for putting it out here!!

interesting vid mate.. i agree with your point.. marketing makes us feel there are more advances in tech than there actually are.. i say 5 years to see a big change in sensor DR and ISO.. an amazing camera for sure.. bang for buck if you have the lenses then yes 100% bargain.. if not then I'm thrilled with the z7, but more for the lens sizes and sharpness over what I had on my canons, tho I can't test and say for certain.. but its more the video and mirrorless advantages that make me prefer the z7.. ibis focusing options (peaking & face/eye detect) and smaller body size.. i paid 1700 for mine.. mint 3000 shutter (tho mirrorless its irrelevant) The ecosystem for canon is the winner.. there are a billion cheap used lenses with that mount.. if you're not looking for the new lens range then hell yeah mate you've got a bargain. for stills and landscape/ commercial shooter its a bargain.. the rest of the bells in the R5 are pointless. Excited to see how they compare.. id be willing to guess there isn't much in it! Especially considering the difference in dolla! x

Enjoy your shows... luv my 5dsr ...do high detail pics.. Very large prints. Bought a second body...

Really interesting video Gary. I had a 5d mark ii which I loved, it was my 1st proper camera for landscape photography. It had its down sides so I thought I’d up grad to the 5dsr about 12 months ago. Long story short, I have just sold it and all my canon lenses are going too. I really didn’t get on very well with this camera at all. 50% of the time I went out I failed to come back with anything useful, which is a shame! The iso range isn’t great, anything over 500 and the images have a lot of noise in them, I found the shadows also had lots of noise and areas of green and purple too. That might of been a result of the 24-70 l lens but I still suffer with the shaper 16-35 l lens. Anyhow I will be moving to the Nikon z system. It’s a real shame as I love canon but this last camera failed in my use case. When weather conditions were good it would take a fantastic photo, but when they weren’t it was a bit hopeless Really interested in the next camera test with the R5 Thanks for the video Gary, I hope you get the very best from the 5dsr that you have now 👍

People upset you said 5DsR wrong?? 😂 People should drink more coffee or something. Love my 5dS. I recently bought another as a " back up" ..I'm a Canon Fanboy too lol. The 5DSR/5DS is a pure beast. Totally agree. Best bang for buck .

Is 5dsr good for daily casual shooting on travel with sigma 24 105 f4??? Or 5d iv

Looking forward to hearing about the comparison between to 5DSR and the R5 to see if you come up with the same conclusions that I did after comparing them for landscapes a couple of weeks ago! I know what’s staying in my bag for landscapes. 😊

In terms of your comments about 2nd hand gear, all my Canon L lenses that I have bought have been 2nd hand. Will be interested to hear your comments about the R5 Gary and to see you putting it through its paces

Great vlog Gary interesting results I shoot landscape to wildlife with my 5D iv and love it.

I have a Sony camera, however I found your video very interesting. Thanks Gary.

Enjoyed your photos, still sticking with my Sony RX10 IV don’t want to lug loads of gear around

Hi Gary, to be honest the results aren’t surprising as you are essentially comparing like fo4 like technology albeit the 5DsR has a sensor with a larger pixel count. Both cameras produce excellent results as your pictures have shown. My 5D 3 does all I need and more but very interested in your next video to see your comparative results.

Why d810 has 14.8 dynamic range and overall score of 97 and 5dsr only 12 dynamic range and overall score of 83 because they almost the same price, I'm confused what to buy, does the score really matter?

@gary, I noticed you deleted two of my posts pointing out the difference in dynamic range and linking to the photons to photos graphs. Can you explain the censor? Cheers

Really great video. Beautiful images. What kind of printer was used for those prints you held up? What DPI were the source files?

I love mine,only problem for me is the weight.Now I still have my sony A7r.This I still use when I'm on the fells.

I did get quite confused last video Gary and thought you'd gone mirror less 😁 I picked up a new 5dsr from the US B&H photo around the turn of the year, my other camera is a 70D. What's making me concerned is cannon discontinuing ef mount lenses, do you think you'll do a video on that? Great video by the way.

Great vid as always Gary and an excellent comparison. Question though, the 5DS is even cheaper than the 5DSR, yet still delivers outstanding quality images. I have the 5D3 and 5DS. The quality jump from pure file size from the 5D3 to the 5DS is jaw dropping and as you say the bang for buck is fantastic when comparing to the latest and greatest for 'landscape and portrait' photography, however they are not as competitive for sports/ wildlife, i think the R5 is more a capable all rounder in that sense. I'll be looking forward to the R5 review, the price of that tech is crazy! Hopefully Canon release the R7 for a more budget friendly and versatile body for all to switch to. That all said, I still prefer the Optical rather than digital viewfinder! Even though for landscapes I shoot Live-view! :P

thanks for the video review Gary! I saw a used 5DSR but I've not bought any second hand gear before. Any tips on things that I should be looking out for on the purchase?

the 5DSr in 2023 ? ...... Yes I just killed my first one at over 400k actuations and bought a new one yesterday and spent $1,800 dollars..... Canon 5DS R Camera with 187 actuations ..... - Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM lens with lens hood and pouch - Canon BG-E11 Battery Grip - Canon AC-E6N AC adapter and Canon DR-E6 DC coupler - Canon RC-6 Remote - 2 Canon Battery Chargers - 2 Canon Batteries - 3 SanDisk Memory Cards - 3 Lens Filters

On my 5DSR after I put the 1 point AF square on my subject, let’s say a tree about 40-50 yards away, then tap back button AF everything looks clear but then I tap the magnify button to either level to check focus and the image goes to a blurry mess? When I next turn the focus ring on lens the image clears right up and looks great. TY for any help.

Nice, I've been looking at the DSR but was concerned about the tight packed photo sites on the sensor and how that might adversely affect images but this clears that up I assume you'll be offering larger than 20 x 30 inch prints now too :)

Hit the like button, But i did not watch Gary, sorry mate just don't like Canon, instead I watched Mali interview you which was awesome really enjoyed it.

I find D850 Nikon is best out of the various cameras i have used. 45mp and Full Frame never let me down.

I've been told that it's not the arrow but the archer.

Fair comparison enough! ;) I´m not a (Canon or others)fanboy(I have five cameras, 4 separate makes), Super like from me!

Thanks for the excellent comparison Gary 👍 Do you know what the difference is between the 5DS-R and the similarly named 5DS? The bumph on various websites refers to the 'R' version not having an 'anti-aliasing' filter. Not sure exactly what this means and more so, why it's important. I'm currently in the market for a 5DS-R (or 5DS) but I'm unsure as to which version to go for. Also like to mention I'm a recent new subscriber to your channel and am really loving your videos 😀

Would be interesting if you did a test v Nikon equivalent

What brand of walking sticks do you use ? i am a big guy with balance issues after back surgery .

I've got a 5dsr and got sick of the weight of the body and all the lenses (11-24mm, 27-70mm f4 and 100-400) for shoots when I'm hiking up hills, especially because I need to carry a meaty tripod. I've just bought a Fuji X-T4. It's so much lighter and I don't need such a full-on tripod. I'm looking forward to putting the cameras up against each other and trying to gauge whether 50MP is worth the hassle. Do you have any thoughts?

Great video , however don’t know why canon is not selling this camera in India.

Is sensor size THAT important? I have taken very sharp, dynamic shots with the g80 mirrorless.. a tiny sensor compared.

Trying to sell my just purchased Canon 90D (408 shutter count) with the 10-18mm and 18-135mm so I can get the 5DSR before it’s sold out. Panic mode!!!!!

I bought the 6D M2 last year new on sale for 1000 pounds (in Norway).

You can get a brand new 5DsR as a grey import with 3 years warranty for just about a grand 😬

5D 3 and get it right in camera, not worth the extra £1300 in my view.... Love my 5D3.

Isnt the dynamic range meant to be terrible on the 5dsr?

Can you recommend a camera around 500 pounds? both are over 1000 pounds even second hand in my country

What's going on with your backpack Gary 👍

Sony a6000nwith sigma 16 is the best.

I’ll buy a new camera when my current ones can’t do the job.

Does the gear matter....for many.

It is... 5D4 with much better DR

Norman Wright. I suppose your videos are not for me anymore as I only have a Canon 7d and only just being able to afford one of these, I have enjoyed your videos in the past but now it seems to be all about expensive gear.

Have you tried Nikon haha 😛

Definitely not the 5DSR.

Poor choice for name of video....Best value for money camera...there is ONLY Canons on here, no Nikon. Should be re-named ...Best value for money Canon.

£1200 used, for that you could get an Oympus OMD + 3 digi lense,s and have change! Covering all common focal lenth,s, smaller, cheaper, lighter, greater depth of field, superb ibis, what,s not to like? Understand for large print,s you need full frame, but weight and cost is the penalty.

canon don't innovate anymore, they are so far behind other brands and then they just copy