🔴 Best Value Leica iii CLONE cameras | Nicca iiiS, Zorki C, Canon, Leica iiia, Leica iif, Leica iiig

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🔴 Best Value Leica iii CLONE cameras | Nicca iiiS, Zorki C, Canon, Leica iiia, Leica iif, Leica iiig

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Save & buy a cheap Leica iii clone camera instead! | Nicca iiiS, Zorki C, Canon compared to Leica iii
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A short video comparing the price of the Leica iii CLONE cameras. The cost of the Nicca iiiS, Zorki C, Canon clone cameras is less than the common Leica iii models. Video includes the Leica iiia, Leica iif, Leica iiig cameras and sample photos with all the mentioned models. All these vintage rangefinder cameras are just light boxes so each can take identical photos. If you are looking for vintage Leica iii clone cameras this might give you a taster of what is out there. Check eBay for the latest prices and clones vs Leicas!
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@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

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@Definitely_not_Andrew_Yoshiaki 3 жыл бұрын

As an avid Nicca IIIF user I gotta say it’s a great deal to have. As a broke grad student, I really wanted a L mount lens camera, and since Leicas are out of the price range for me, I sought for a Nicca (and other clones you could find here in Tokyo). I got one in really good condition with a Nikkor HC 5cm F2 lens for about 300$ and it’s a work horse. Definitely want to try other lenses with it but boy is it a beauty, even with portraits.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew, yes great camera and lens! Does exactly the same job :)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

See some of my other videos for lenses, there are some great affordable options. More videos to come too.

@goiko1986 Жыл бұрын

I just developed first film from NICCA IIIf, shot with jupiter 8, I am very happy with it

@randolphcroft4212 3 жыл бұрын

My grandfather had that Canon. I used it a few times when I was a teen. I wish I knew what happened to it, but it's been decades since he passed...

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Ah very cool. My Grandfather had a Yashica MG-1 but I didn't know til after he passed as I got into photography late. I have the camera and have some some images with it (Full story on the blog).

@dlyon9673 2 жыл бұрын

As another comment on this very interesting video, I'd recommend looking at the Yashica rangefinders. One of Yashica's later rangefinders was the Yashica YE, which is a Barnack style camera, and as Yashica had purchased Nicca shortly before the YE came out, it feels to me like Yashica's YE is a refinement/variation of Nicca's later Barnack style cameras, with the same basic design, plus a film advance lever. I think its very nice camera. Prior to adopting Nicca's approach, Yashica had earlier came out with the Yashica 35, which is something of a Contax clone, but with a fixed lens. The Yashica 35 also is very nice camera, with a smooth film advance, a film advance lever, a very nice, soft shutter sound, and a solid rangefinder patch. Finally, the Yashica YF is Yashica's spin on Nicca's last design, the Nicca 33, and leaving the Barnack style behind, was something of an effort to match Leica's M3. The YF is also a very nice camera, with a big and bright viewfinder with nice bright framelines, although the rangefinder patch -- incorporated into the viewfinder as with Leica's M cameras -- is a bit disappointing and certainly not as nice as the Leica M. Yashica's lenses for these cameras are also very nicely made and appear very sharp, and the YE and YF use Leica's same thread mount, so these cameras will take any LTM threadmount lenses.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks D! I have looked to buy Yashica a few times in the past! I managed to resist pressing buy on eBay as a I had too many already but perhaps one day I will pick one up. Thanks!

@gottanikoncamera 3 жыл бұрын

Sooner or later people will get tired of gear stuff and want BTS of your shoots. Posting this for a friend, lol.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

OverDubb I do already! See Patreon! That has a weekly model BTS video plus other stuff.

@gottanikoncamera 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I found that right after I posted, lol. Thanks, Matt, er, Mr. Leica.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

@@gottanikoncamera No problem.. yes i'm trying to keep YT for gear reviews (as that's what most people seem to want) then Patreon for models / other stuff

@sgiruc 3 жыл бұрын

Fed 2 - small, stylish and with strap lugs

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I have it.. I need to use it more then I can do a video :) ...a "real" one bought in antique stop in Ukraine when I was there years ago :)

@tomislavmiletic_ 3 жыл бұрын

I've inherited 2 Zorki cameras - the 3 and 4K. And while the model 3 is quite unusable, course the camera had sitting on the shelf for some 60+ years, and I can't find mechanic who would fix her (for reasonable amount of money), the 4K is from 1978, with pristine Jupiter 8, and in (almost) perfect working order. As a matter in fact, your videos nudged me to take that camera more often on a walk...

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you got 2 Zorki! I really like mine :) The 4K setup sounds perfect! Yes you need to use it :) As for the 3 it sounds sad but it might be easier to get another cheap on eBay.. Cheaper than fixing. (I will do a Zorki vs Leica shoot out in a future video so stay tuned!) :)

@jonlouis2582 3 жыл бұрын

That was very a very interesting comparison. I have a number of these cameras, but the only ones I use are a Leica iii, and a very early Leica ii that was converted to a iii somewhere along the line. Both are pretty ugly looking, but work great The Zorki C that was supposedly serviced before being sold by a Russian vendor arrived inoperative, completely jammed. I also have a Nicca that needs a shutter service, but my repair tech didn't want to work on it and returned it. I have several Canon clones that work well but have very squinty viewfinders, and pointy bits that rub me the wrong way. All in all, the Leica's turned out to be the best deal, even considering the cost of service which both needed. Your iif is really lovely.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

jon louis thanks I paid slightly more for the iif for a nice copy and that’s my goto iii camera now. Really clear contrasty RF 👌🏻 Sorry to hear about your clones.

@ernestovargas1254 3 жыл бұрын

Jon Louis I use Yye Camera Leica service email wye@yahoo.com one of the best techs for Leica and copies in the states.

@randallstewart175 3 жыл бұрын

The Nicca has been described as so close a cone of one of the Leica models that the internal parts can be interchanged between them. At last in the US, I doubt you can acquire a Nicca for the price he suggests. The Leica IIIg carries a price tag these days well above its prior models because relatively few were made and they combine the mechanics of the prior model with the much improved viewfinder optics of the Later M models. In college in the mid-1960s, a dorm roomate had one - very nice camera.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Yes I can confirm that I get my Nicca and iiia confused. They are to my eyes identical except the name plate.

@goiko1986 Жыл бұрын

I bought mine IIIf from japan for incl. shipping, tax and customs €139! nice looking, tiny dent, fully functional

@DonWood 3 жыл бұрын

I am awaiting delivery of an Agfa ambi silette described by some as ‘the poor mans Leica’ I cannot wait till it gets here 😀👍❤️

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Don! I just Googled it :)

@LeendertCordemans 3 жыл бұрын

Most best clone of the Leica II is the Zorki 1 and FED 1. Also the Canon IIf clone of the Leica III. But als the Minolta 35.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks yes my Zorki is very similar to my Leica iiia!

@AGL93311 3 жыл бұрын

Nice piece, Matt. I see you have a Canon LTM body other than the 7. Looks like an L2 (no selftimer, cloth shutter and no X setting on shutterspeed dial), but maybe an L3, (cannot see if flash port is present), be great if you would review it. Regarding the Nicca (also sold in USA by Sears under their brand as a Tower) the lens to use with it is the one it most commonly came with , the Nikkor 50/2 HC, a superb optic, a hard coated clone of the prewar Zeiss Sonnar f2. The Nikkor can focus to about 0.5m and in my experience focuses by rangefinder a couple of inches closer than 1 meter, but certainly very useful with mirrorless digital cameras. A nice pair with a Summitar(or Canon 50/1.8) giving you the choice of Sonnar or Planar looks... An early 1950's consumer choice of a Leica IIIc with Summitar vs a Nicca 3S(Tower) with Nikkor in retrospect was a difficult one to make considering the price differential. Leica reputation, lack of knowledge about the Nicca/Nikkor and anti-Japanese product bias played into consumer decisions at the time...

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, yes correct an L2 or L3.. I'd need to look at eBay listing. I only bought it for the hard to find lens so I've never used it. (I got the 40mm filter set too which was good). Yes I bought the Nicca for the 50/2 lens :) You see a pattern here! An excellent lens and you will see a video to come on this. Thanks for the Sonnar vs Planar point / reminder. Yes the Summitar is sub-standard vs these mentioned lenses - ie. soft. But you will see that to come too. I found it can be useful for some skin types.

@espenbjrkvold5119 3 жыл бұрын

That Nicca camera does indeed look interesting. I will certainly look into that one. 😊 Thank you for sharing this.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

You can normally find on eBay. Great value 👍🏻

@JimGriffin 3 жыл бұрын

To answer your question in the video...yes...I have some Leica clones. Before I came across the great deal on my Leica iiif, I was buying into the Russian clones and lenses. I have a Zorki 1, Zorki 4, Zorki 4k, and a Fed 2. My favorite of those is the Zorki 1. Other than the shutter sound being louder, it feels great just like my iiif. For lenses, I have many Industars...all of them 50mm...the 22, the 50 and the 61. I then have some Jupiters...the 3, 8 and 12. I haven't tried all of the lenses on the Leica...only the Industar 22 and 50...which work well. I've heard that the Jupiters may have some focusing issues when used on the Barnack Leica cameras, so I figure that it will give me a good reason to shoot the Zorki and Fed cameras. 😊

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Jim Griffin thanks Jim and good to see you hear. Yes I have a FED2 and nearly bought the Zorki 4/4A. Yes these bodies work great too with Industars. Yes my Jupiter 3 doesn’t work on Leica but maybe just my copy. J-12 lens is nice too 👍🏻😊

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Jim Griffin ..you’ll see some of the lenses you mentioned to come in the Series 2 lens series 👍🏻😊

@JimGriffin 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom If you are going to get a Zorki, I'd recommend the Zorki 1, then the Zorki 4...then the Zorki 4K. Although the 4k has a winding lever, it feels cheaper. It could just be my copy though. I have found that I prefer the winding knob on these cameras anyway.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Jim Griffin thanks Jim! The most important thing for me is a good rangefinder.

@JimGriffin 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I totally agree...because as I age, and my eyes don't cooperate like they used to, the rangefinder is critical. I like having the diopter adjustment on the iiif. I would like to get into an M3 or M6 but right now, the $$ can be put elsewhere. I may also start using my SLRs a bit more...easier to focus. 😁😉

@dreunderscore3314 3 жыл бұрын

The N word pass camera

@caldera878 3 жыл бұрын

Whoever disliked this video must of gotten Leica remorse!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Caldera yes I think it upset a few people sadly.

@tuftufclub159 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, very intresting informations ! For me, a real eyeopener ! Greetings, Roger.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Tuftufclub thanks Roger!

@1peterq 2 жыл бұрын

Did you tried Zorki 3 or Zorki 3M ? It is definetly the most nice looking soviet LTM cameras. Technically it is compact version of Zorki 4 but without flash sinc and selftimer.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter, no I bought the Zorki 4 but still need to film test it. Is the viewfinder good in the 3s? That bit is the post important to me - VF/RF. Maybe I need to get one :)

@1peterq 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Techically Zorki 4 is a Zorki 3C with added self-timer (Zorki 3C is a Zorki 3M with flash sync and ugly top cover. Zorky 3M is Zorky 3 with combined shutter dial for long and short shutter speeds). So they share the same viefinder wth 1.15x maginfication (better than ANY Leica) - the best (by picture ) VF for mass soviet RFs. But RF spot is not the best - FEDs and Kiev have better one. And of course no framelines in a viewfinder - in Soviet rangefinders with interchangeble lens this feature was only in a small numbers of models - Leningrad, Drug, Kiev-5 and FED-5C. And only FED-5C can be taken in a considerations for shooting today. All the rest models had BIG problems with reliability, was made in a small numbers and now are interested only for collectors, not shooters.

@1peterq 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom If you are paying most attention to VF - try to look for overview of Leningrad camera. You will definetly like the view! But don`t mention it for buing to shoot - it was "reporters camera" so it has no frame by frame manual drive, only spring drive for a buch of shots (8-10). And due to this spring drive the mechanism is heavely stressed even on normal shooting - usually it leads to RF disalignment after 2-3 rolls of film. Also this RF had own space construction frame made from silumin alloy instead of steel and these frames usually are broken - and no way for fixing it, only frame replacement (taken from another one Leningrad) . So it is hard to find camera with extremily hard to find working RF - and even after it you have absolutly no warranty that it will not become fatal dead on a next roll of film with a neglectible hope for repaire. But the picture in RF is SUPER. :)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@1peterq thanks Peter!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@1peterq thanks Peter!

@GeorgeStar 3 жыл бұрын

I never understood what that little lever next to the rewind know was for. Diopter? I played with it when I had a IIIc but never could see any difference.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for delay. ,maybe your's is not working, they are a gamechanger for me! I can see! (Push 1 way to focus closer, and other to focus to infinity)

@sailingandpaintingtheworld538 3 жыл бұрын

Hi matt thanks for the info on the various cameras but could you tell me what sort of negative scanner you use. I need one for a project. Many thanks

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rich, yes Epson v800 flatbed for everything. Does all I need but I know people say DSLR scanning is better. This works for me.. I still need to do a scanning video for the Patreon peeps.

@sailingandpaintingtheworld538 3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for the info

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

rich phela no probs!

@neilpiper9889 2 жыл бұрын

All Barnack quick loaders!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Neil, there is a model will a M style back door for quick loading too.

@Zetaphotography 2 жыл бұрын

IIIB with 5cm F2

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@Jail-Left-Wing-Traitors 3 жыл бұрын

£300 ?? dont think so mate..much more expensive, only saw 1 in the UK under 400,the rest are sky high,, il stick with my Zorki 4K for now :O)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob! Most of mine were under £350 and bought in the last 2 years but the prices of everything just keeps going up. I have Zorki 4! I need to film test it.

@Jail-Left-Wing-Traitors 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom well, there's a couple here and there, but for the most part, yes, prices have gone crazy .no doubt due to the hipster virus 😁

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jail-Left-Wing-Traitors well at least I can’t be blamed for that bit, I’m Not a cool hipster!

@maureenbachmann1858 2 жыл бұрын

I'm having trouble finding a lens for Nicca - what was it called? Thanks

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

See a video I did - nikkor hc 50mm f2

@johnny_bravo9990 3 жыл бұрын

You are awesome 🙏

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Bravo haha thanks, just my 2p worth! 😅

@gilbertleon5607 3 жыл бұрын

How many exposures do you loose on a roll of film because you have to trim the film in order to load it in to a camera?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Less than you think..maybe 2 but compared to the ‘modern’ automated film cameras. Some of those loose more as they auto wind on. The le both cut is 2-3 frames but you still get 36ish (from memory) just not 38.

@nickdigrispino2409 3 жыл бұрын

What about the FED 1 and 2?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

I have the FED 2 but the design doesn't match these quite the same so I left it out. I will include it in another future video. (I don't have the FED 1 sorry).

@jcarter4073 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Matt, if I could ask you about the Zorki C in this video. Around the shutter dial and below it is I think a millisecond flash sync dial. If I was going to use a simple electronic flash, do I need to set the dial on the Zorki at one of the numbers or do I just forget them and fire away. I have just bought this camera but I have no instructions. Many thanks.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, sorry i've not yet used my Zorki with flash. Can you test fire without film and see what works? Leicas differ depending on the model so no set rule sadly. You might need to use some cheap film and test it.

@jcarter4073 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for the reply. Yes, I will go away and do some testing and see what happens. Or rather what develops.

@marioesquivel5735 2 жыл бұрын

I scored a zorki c for 10 US dollars.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

No way! Get me some haha :) Enjoy!

@tikkathreebarrels 3 жыл бұрын

I've got the Zorki/Fed bodies and enjoy them, I've also got a Bessa R: what might I get from trying th Nicca and/or Canon bodies?

@AGL93311 3 жыл бұрын

A more accurate rangefinder for use with fast lens, particularly close up.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

If the Fed and Zorki models don't have the built in diopter then if you don't have 20:20 vision the Nicca should help you focus better (or Leica). Compared to Bessa R all these cameras have much more accurate rangefinder (see my Bessa R video as I mention this).

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

These cameras are better with 50mm lenses, the Bessa R is better for wider as has the 35mm framelines + use entire VF for 28mm approx.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, I agree vs Bessa R

@danieltuba3843 3 жыл бұрын

So lets say, i can use my zorki 1c for example with a leica summitar 50mm f2?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Riley, yes correct. Will mount ok and focus but might not be 100% accurate at f2 as slightly different flange distance, all Soviet bodies vs Leica

@danieltuba3843 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the fast response. :) I have a friend who make professional CLA-s and repairs. Maybe he can calibrate it for me. I will buy a Leica body one day, but first I have to complete my hassy setup.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

@@danieltuba3843 nice, I like Hassy too, need to use them again! See those vids! :)

@danieltuba3843 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I like your videos, also your stunning photos on Flickr! Thanks for sharing. :))

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

@@danieltuba3843 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@avistrader9126 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, maybe you can do a comparison between a leica m2/3/4 and the cannon p/7. Is there any difference between the viewfinder of those cameras. I just bought a canon 7 with a canon 50mm 1.8 ltm but the lens had some minor traces of haze and have send the hole kit back to the seller. Is it worth spending the extra cash on a leica m and leica 50mm lens or is the canon as good as the leica? Thanks

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I have already done the M2 vs M3 and M4-P vs M6 (See Leica playlist or film camera playlist to see videos). I have Canon 7 to come. Yes there is a difference. Maybe I will try to do the Canon this week.. Canon lenses can be good but may have haze. Leica cameras are my preference by far but check the Voigtlander Bessa videos I did. They can be good. Maybe Bessa R + Canon lens or Bessa T.. see videos as each has own quirks. M3 is best.

@avistrader9126 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks

@physiocrat7143 3 жыл бұрын

There is also the Reid but it is more expensive than a Leica!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Physiocrat thanks yes there are more, I just mentioned a few common ones. Yes Reid and TH both cost more I think! :)

@brandonscherff9344 3 жыл бұрын

Matt Osborne there is also the American Kardon, but they cost way more than a Leica also

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Brandon Scherff thanks, that’s a new one on me!

@jessekoskinen 3 жыл бұрын

Leica clones! What blasphemy is this? Seriously though, screwmount bodies are very nice looking. I'd love to have a Leica IIIG. An original black paint one if money was no object. I'll have to be happy with a normal chrome one though. I'm a cook, not a millionare.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jesse, you must be an excellent cook as you looked at the Thambar! :P :P (Joking).. my spending is heavily bias towards my interests then I save elsewhere (like having no house or TV ha) :) IIIG is nice if spot one at good price on eBay.