Beta Items and Abilities of Ocarina of Time

Beta Items and Abilities of Ocarina of Time | Zelda Cut Content

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With many years of development, Zelda 64 had many items and abilities either cut entirely or changed. However through leaks and datamining the game, many of these were discovered including the elusive Triforce. So today on Cut Content, we look at the beta items and abilities of the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
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Chapters:
0:00 - Beta Items and Abilities of Ocarina of Time
0:57 - Beta Medallion Spells and Items
4:58 - Beta Magical Arrows
6:29 - Beta Spiritual Stones, Ocarina, Musical Notes, Reed Whistle
7:53 - Beta Landmine, Sword, Gauntlets/Bracelets
8:52 - Beta Bomb Bag, Quiver, Wallet, Hookshot, Megaton Hammer, Lens of Truth
9:37 - Beta Bow, Slingshot, Boomerang, Butterfly Cage, Heart Container
10:21 - Link's Beta Animations
11:41 - Beta Blade Beam
12:02 - Beta Manual Jumping and Beta Button Mapping
12:44 - Beta Triforce
14:13 - Extro
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@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching everyone! The Triforce and Medallion segments were especially one that I got requests for, so i'm really happy to have made this video at last.

@shofarsogood7504 3 жыл бұрын

Love this video! Favorite game ever so this new content hardly anyone knew about is like experiencing a small part of the game for the first time again.

@SailorGreenTea 3 жыл бұрын

When you look at the door to the shadow temple, upside down, what does it resemble?

@DawnLynnCat 3 жыл бұрын

@@SailorGreenTea the Yiga Clan Symbol

@SailorGreenTea 3 жыл бұрын

@@DawnLynnCat 👍

@DARKLE1408 3 жыл бұрын

Its interesting that the OoT randomizer uses the musical notes models when you randomize the songs location

@aquagondrag 2 жыл бұрын

The N64 one at least. The 3DS one instead use texture swapped Ocarina models for each song.

@UrdnotWrex88 3 жыл бұрын

Would be amazing to have a remake of OoT with all this stuff restored.

@DawnLynnCat 3 жыл бұрын

I think to make it fit, maps would have to be removed.

@catriamflockentanz 3 жыл бұрын

It would have ceased to be a remake at this point though.

@ThatGuyJas0n 3 жыл бұрын

@@catriamflockentanz not unneccesarily, they made a remake/new game with A Link Between Worlds and Majora's Mask 3D, as they altered the entire game and item locations. They could easily add the beta items/locations/events to an Ocarina of Time 3D remake on the switch

@ikedoell5635 3 жыл бұрын

dude the mods these days man, its only a matter of time

@fidelrodriguez4000 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGuyJas0n That ALBW/MM remake sounds so cool, where can I find more info about it? :D

@Gernam12 3 жыл бұрын

The coolest part to me is speculating on the medallions. The spells are so diverse and I'm surprised we never got a spell list quite as diverse as this in Zelda again. The closest we have is the stuff in Breath of the Wild, but those feel more mechanical than outright magical. One thing about the Wind Arrow. I don't think it was a teleporting arrow as you say, but the hint to its true use is in Ganon's tower. In the Wind medallion room we get several puzzles involving wind, we know that, but there are also puzzles involving lighting torches. What if instead of lighting torches, the original objective of that area was to blow them out? Just a thought.

@SailHatinSoap 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right

@ProfessorWhooves11 3 жыл бұрын

That would have been very interesting.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Well the Wind Arrow is just a theory on if the arrows are suppose to reflect their medallions as the fire and ice arrows did. so it could always be possible that those were the exception and everything else had their own effects too like maybe a blowback effect with the Wind Arrows being a possibility

@Gernam12 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah. This is all theory here. So you could be right. Just fun to speculate.

@amysel 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the fans would've needed to be activated by shooting wind arrows into them I also think the light arrows might've worked just like in Majoras Mask with the shadow arrows working as an opposite equal to turn off light activated mechanism

@SgtSega 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Link in the beginning would find the Triforce, approach it, get caught in a trap, and then Ganondorf would show up, steal the Triforce, and somehow separate them? Or maybe Zelda did after fleeing Hyrule Castle? Somehow the Triforce became split and you have to rebuild it in 3 big pieces. Maybe in special dungeons? Maybe guarded by the 3 races (Kokiri, Goron, and Zora)? Maybe in Ganon's Castle after he takes over so Link can't stop Ganon? If Ganon's Castle was going to be the hub world and Link had to enter different areas like Super Mario 64, this could be why he has to do it. He must also get the Magic Ocarina and the three stones so he may obtain the Master Sword which can hurt Ganon. Maybe back then there was no time travel since Link and Ganondorf would change normally over progression through the game and instead it would change between the Light World and the Dark World? Maybe that explains the upside down Lorulian Triforce?

@Big_Human 3 жыл бұрын

The stones look like a natural, flat, and sharp musical symbols

@tacticalbacon158 2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment. Note quite notes haha 😄

@BullyPop 3 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely bringing my childhood back to life with this. I remember reading about a NUMBER of these things back in the mid-2000’s, I can’t believe 15 years later we’re actually seeing these things.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Hah yeah I was there in that scene in the mid-2000s as well when it was being discussed. I'm glad it is still something that still is being built on.

@OpheliaFantasy Жыл бұрын

Right?! 15 years ago it felt like we were seeing all there was to see from the game, NEVER would I think they would find an old beta copy of the game 😍

@Mike-iz6li 3 жыл бұрын

Who remember the hearthpiece at guredo village which you only can see when young link. Since you can't obtain it normally (impossible to reach), it is possible that you need to obtain spirit medal first and then transfer into navi to fly up there and obtain it. The heartpiece placement and the spirit medal are on the same (desert) area

@TheBreakingBenny 2 жыл бұрын

The child setup there does have a chest w/ Piece of Heart, yah. The credits version has the Odd Mushroom.

@rockypockypuff 3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to spirit medallion/fairy ability... I'd think it would be restricted to certain areas like dungeons, or that you'd only be able to fly up at a specific point as to not break the immersion

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe so. The description as far as I have seen didn't mention any limitations, but that would make sense if it was limited to just dungeons (even if it might break the dungeon)

@GatorOne-in7hk 3 жыл бұрын

Combining the Medallions with your arrows is the coolest thing we never got from a Zelda game. We need warp arrows!! 😭

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

I do feel Warp Arrows would be hella broken but it'd be super cool indeed

@Spiral-Mark 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine the speedruns

@Musikur 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer Would have just been an issue of balance. If you made it only available on horizontal surfaces, and consume a large amount of magic which was harder to get, it probably would have been fine.

@literaltrash2275 3 жыл бұрын

Warp arrows could be used in a way that if you didn’t have enough hearts or whatever, you can shoot the arrows at a mini boss and it would warp to a random part of hyrule where you would have to encounter it again in order to grab a certain item.

@abuttnugget6753 2 жыл бұрын

You mean a Portal Gun....or bow in this case?

@darkmask5933 3 жыл бұрын

Theory: the Spirit Arrows you allow you to possess an enemy you hit with them! So using the Spirit Medallion normally let's you control Navi because she is willing to be controlled, and the Spirit Arrows means you could control that enemy, kind of like Mario Odyssey!

@Mike-iz6li 3 жыл бұрын

Didn''t i said something like that too xd haha

@1993Southparkfan 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine playing as an iron knuckle.

@ProfessorWhooves11 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what being a Stalchild or Skullkid would have been like.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

As neat as that is, I do wonder how capable the N64 was in letting you switch places with that many characters on the fly in a game?

@victorhale 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer in my opinion I feel like the real usage of those arrows was making them into fairies. If the medallions used magic then turning enemies into fairies would be a broken way to get your health back

@SgtSega 3 жыл бұрын

9999 Rupees makes sense because there's a lot of treasure chests in the game especially in pits in Hyrule Field that just give you more Rupees. Often times I would open a chest and my Rupee count was already maxed out. Maybe there were going to be items in the game that required a high count?

@RoseBleueDuRosierSec 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could transform into a fairy, but I understand why they cut it... Awesome video, really enjoyed it.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully one day if we ever get a proper remake we can get this as a feature

@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 3 жыл бұрын

There's always Zelda II lol

@Mike-iz6li 3 жыл бұрын

what they could do, was making that for only in dungeons available. That would make more sense. Also note, that the soul medal has 2 souls circling around. I think that is also the idea of swapping soul from link to the fairy

@DawnLynnCat 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-iz6li Yeah, the three known ability Medallians also hint at what they do.

@AgnusCavichioliPereira 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-iz6li Wait... By that logic, it means that the Soul Arrows would let you exchange bodies with enemies? Neat!

@shadowledastray 3 жыл бұрын

I like how the Light Arrows would have been silver, like the Silver Arrows in Loz/LttP!

@Hazardus 3 жыл бұрын

Another amazing video man, I can't believe I missed the premiere for this. But I am still glad I watched it!

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Always a next time :)

@solariswly 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. I'd never have imagined that there could be stuff like a spirit arrow

@lavennia 2 жыл бұрын

This was such an interesting watch! Warp arrows would be so awesome. It's so fun seeing all the cut content, it makes me think of all the stuff I drew as a kid for my own Zelda game lol

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! OoT had a ton cut and I got plenty of videos on it and other games if interested

@bardoon8792 3 жыл бұрын

This channel deserves more attention

@worldrummer 3 жыл бұрын

This is most extensive cut content video for Ocarina I've seen. Well done.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Got more planned still too

@acrobaticjazzie 3 жыл бұрын

I love this series so much, keep it going!

@NvFongyy 3 жыл бұрын

I've watched tons of "Did You Know" videos about Zelda and Tips and secrets about this game specifically but I've never known the stuff you've mentioned in this video Fair enough, a lot of the leaks are fairly new but this is some stuff I never thought i would find out. It's really great to see what could've been, really appreciate these videos! good stuff!

@chrisd6287 2 жыл бұрын

All of this content is amazing! Thank you sir

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed them! got more planned!

@spazerdazer8421 3 жыл бұрын

6:56 Those aren't notes but musical symbols, from top to bottom it's: Natural Flat Sharp

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah probably should have called the musical symbols as opposed to musical notes lol

@voicebross 3 жыл бұрын

i like your content bro, nice way of presenting your vids, i like the editing too. good stuff!

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Really try hard on the editing side especially lol

@bwackbeedows3629 2 жыл бұрын

4:22 Imagine being in Hyrule Field and you frew up.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Would have been hella neat until you realize Hyrule stops at a certain point

@itsslothh3908 4 ай бұрын

Actually only just realized recently looking at the medallions/Great fairy spells, All 3 of the great fairy spells were changed from the medallions at the last second, Nayrus love is blue like the water medallion, So it was probably originally going to be "rutos love" and was supposed to be based on her marriage side story, and faores wind is supposed to be from the wind medallion, Essentially why it was called "fayore's wind", Probably had to be changed last second due to the wind dungeon being changed into the forest temple

@Spiral-Mark 3 жыл бұрын

They could've just at least kept some of the animation of link because it just so badass

@jonathanplooij3666 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the video

@TitansTracks 3 жыл бұрын

Yooo those hexagonal medallions look hype!! 💎

@sxywyka 3 жыл бұрын

I had that same problem trying to link up the cut magic arrow functionalities. I remembered that when it comes to Zelda, nothing is scrapped and is usually taken into a future game. This is why when I saw there was a wind arrow I thought of the Gale Boomerang! I could imagine the water temple using wind puzzles considering its Japanese architecture (its easy to imagine little paper fans like the ones in the Forrest Temple of TP!) .

@SonicJrandSarah 3 жыл бұрын

Those were amazing cut pieces of content. I imagine Ocarina of Time would have been a much different game if the cut content was kept in.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Quite a bit bigger I imagine, would I think require more powerful hardware for all that

@angelagonzalez8250 3 жыл бұрын

maybe the spirit arrow will give you a cappy like effect

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

As neat as that is, I don't know how capable the N64 was in performing that lol

@angelagonzalez8250 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer another idea i have is when you release your arrow you take control of it and move it where you want to

@magetsalive5162 3 жыл бұрын

I expect the two-button Bow and Arrow would have worked sort of like the Bow does in Skyward Sword - one button held to keep it readied (or just pressed to toggle into the bow), the other held to nock an arrow and then released to fire.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

They say alot of beta elemenets never truly stay beta with the Zelda series, and this may not have stayed beta either :P

@theomegafan304 2 жыл бұрын

11:37 That idle animation is sick!

@robintst 3 жыл бұрын

They didn't have the non-temple related songs to learn during development but it's probably for the best that they doubled down on that concept with the ocarina, it's in the title of the game for pete's sake. They managed to hinge so much on your use of the songs without making it cumbersome, intrusive, or conversely a throwaway mechanic. Didn't get that same feeling with the Wind Waker baton which did feel cumbersome and intrusive and the harp in Skyward Sword which felt like a throwaway afterthought.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed thus why I feel this was truly a game abou music and so well integrated into a good action adventure game

@Wingcapman 3 жыл бұрын

For the ones who are curious about how the inventory menu would even look like for specifically making use of the medallions, there are some screenshots and even a video about it around the Internet. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJaSgqqaktqvd4U.html This one for example shows a very brief moment of the pause menu, specifically at the item inventory at the fifth second in. Who knows what more information we can find about games like Ocarina of Time. As for the Triforce texture at the end, I can imagine it uses a color breathing animation where it uses gold, yellow and probably white colors to indicate the pieces are glowing. Thanks for sharing this video though, even if I knew about most of the stuff before this video got published, there were at least a few things that were new to me. :) Small edit: And about the Temple of Time... We might be in for a treat, as I feel like there are more models, as the video also shows a Temple of Time version with the upside-down Triforce, but with the retail version's pedestal, and seems to use both the green doors and Door of Time, from the blurry footage I could see. All of this makes me excited.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Ooh that menu image is neat. Also interesting to see not Wind Medallion there yet and yeah that would make a lot of sense regarding the Triforce having colour applied to it after to do a sort of animation such as breathing.

@Jacefacex 3 жыл бұрын

I love your content,please keep making more. Also comments are good for the youtube algorithm so hear you go

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated and got plenty more planned!

@Jacefacex 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer i cant wait keep up the great work!:)

@marnea1 2 жыл бұрын

I take comfort in this confirmation. For years I theorized that each one of the medallions were replaced by item in Link's final inventory. Shadow = Lens of Truth Ice = Ice Arrows Spirit = Nayru's Love Fire = Din's Fire Light = Light Arrows Wind = Forre's Wind Looks like I was at least partially right. Cool to finally know what their effects were going to be though. And the ability to obfuscate and nullify seen in the light and dark medallions does seem to reflect the ability of the Lens of Truth. If I had to pose a guess as to what Spirit arrows would have done, Since the idea seems to have been about transferring your Spirit, I would guess take control of enemies.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Well one thing I didn't know back when I made the video was that when you do shoot an enemy with the spirit arrow, it apparently does drop Faeries as the reward. Overall seems faerie based

@marnea1 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer Interesting. I was thinking "Spirit" like your will: sense of self. But I guess in Zelda fairies do equate to Life/Energy, I guess that's kind of like "spirit" your will to continue on, fight, etc.

@IzzySarru 3 жыл бұрын

The blade bleam being a triforce ability makes sense since the body of the attack is literally a golden triangle.

@ZorusSerif 2 жыл бұрын

I think the shadow arrows would be used to blind specific enemies and the light arrows would maybe be used in some type of puzzle like permanently lighting up crystal switches or to light up specific spots in a dark room permanently or to shoot off to distract a specific kind of enemy possibly and maybe the spirit arrows let you take control of specific enemies in order to move them around for puzzles or straight up, let you control enemies to take care of all the others in the room and then taking on the last one that you were just in control of yourself

@mrash7560 3 жыл бұрын

I've only listened to you for 25 seconds but I feel like I can already do a perfect impression of you

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

I feel my voice is pretty unique too, so well done on that :)

@samuelbarrett5701 Жыл бұрын

The triforce originally played the same role as it did in the original NES game - you'd have to collect pieces of the triforce of courage (Sheikh was on her own mission to find the triforce of wisdom) while Ganondorf already had the triforce of power (obtained during your seven year slumber in the chamber of sages). That's why in game Ganon says "these powers are too much for you" and then uses his triforce of power to attempt to take Link's triforce.

@NorthSudan 4 ай бұрын

someone may have mentioned this somewhere, but could the ice medallion freezing magic have been retrofitted into the suns song freezing effect on undead enemies?

@agirlinsearchof9057 2 жыл бұрын

12:26 That explains why, in the final game, there are glitches that put any item on your B button.

@ezrarahman5022 3 жыл бұрын

you should do beta majora mask next

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

I do plan to do that eventually. I got a few more OOT videos still

@HighPriestFuneral 3 жыл бұрын

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we do know the functions of the beta arrows. The actors may be gone, but their damage table has never been removed from the game. They weren't that interesting sadly. Remember how final game Light Arrows always drop 50 Rupees? Well... Wind Arrows - Force Drop Magic Shadow Arrows - Force Drop Arrows (I think!) Spirit Arrows - Force Drop Fairies (Which now makes a lot of sense!) As for Light Magic simply "making things bright" we know that's not entirely true as there is a Light Magic damage byte, meaning it could hurt enemies (mainly the undead and demonic foes, stalfos, floormasters, Dark Link, etc). Still would have been neat, but they didn't flesh out the ideas enough. Though they did reach a point at least to where bosses were expected to react (mainly nullify) the various arrows on hit.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah we don't know and I made it clear that it's all speculation there on what they could have been. Though while those are force drops, the effects are interesting especially with the Spirit Arrow it seems my theory might have actually been correct lol. Thanks for that! Can I get a link actually of where that info was from? I would like to update with that info down the road.

@HighPriestFuneral 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer Sure, it's on the wiki of cloudmodding.com. It's under the Damage Charts page. Though I should note. We weren't sure what order Shadow/Spirit Arrows were in, way back when, (the page hasn't been updated in far too long...) so those two are reversed as Spirit/Shadow Arrows.

@WilfredCthulu 2 жыл бұрын

I wish someone would make a mod that restores all this stuff and playground rumors on top of the original game if ever possible. Kinda like that one Mario 64 beta mod but as a full cohesive game. I know people made stuff like the Spaceworld 97 recreation but it only exists in isolation and isn't like the full game.

@alexrod9271 3 жыл бұрын

this was a good video that I would play OoT again

@tommoore2012 3 жыл бұрын

I was expecting him to talk about the triforce being an obtainable item, but darn, I was really hoping he would go into detail about what it would have done.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah we don't have that information lol I am simply expecting it as a key item as opposed to a usable item. But back then it was obtainable, just not usable.

@UltimaMan 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I genuinely think you sound similar to Gene from Bob's Burgers.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

I hear this one alot and as usual I don't think i'm as raspy as him lol (but i'll take it as a compliment lol)

@UltimaMan 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer I agree with you and it's definitely a compliment! Glad I found your channel.

@lamb6276 3 жыл бұрын

ITS HERE YAY!

@demonletsplays 4 күн бұрын

Whistling for your horse was brought back in Twilight Princess

@bensheekey9305 3 жыл бұрын

I would think the wind arrow was used to move time blocks but got replaced by the song of time

@celtic5yamum 2 жыл бұрын

Ideas on the elemental arrows: - light: blinding light to the enemy, causing them to swing/attack in a circle for a few seconds, then stop to rub their eyes (becoming vulnerable through stunning) - shadow: causes enemy to become blind/confused (or even hallucinate - shadow temple vibes). This distracts nearby enemies too - good for sneaking past larger groups of tougher enemies - wind: teleportation, 100% - spirit: temporarily make an enemy an ally (confined to the room). Uses large amounts of magic, so use sparingly. Good for miniboss / clusters of harder enemies (such as, if there were dungeons with more ironknuckles, stalfos, etc).

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

I really like all of these, especially the one with the spirit arrows you wrote there. Would be fun having a iron knuckle allied to take on that other iron knuckle in Ganon's Tower

@Mjflight98 2 жыл бұрын

I think with the spirit medallion all you had to do is limit the height that Link could go still it would be very useful for beta water temple the best temple of the beta maps despite how many rooms and puzzle it would be.

@doomtomb3 2 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking all these medallion powers got set to different items like Light Arrow, Lens of Truth, Blue Fire (ice cavern) etc. Den’s Fire was probably due to needing that ability as a kid when they added time travel

@Boooo 4 күн бұрын

straight up they should have kept the 999/9999 wallets, the ruppees being so limited is one of the biggest issues I have with most zelda games, it's the worst feeling getting a large amount of ruppees in a chest but already being at the limit and essentially getting 0

@QuasarEE Жыл бұрын

Data from the Spaceworld overdump seems to indicate that a lot of the arrow types just had relatively lame effects like guaranteeing certain kinds of item drops when you killed enemies with them; I like your ideas better, that's for sure. I feel like their lack of ideas for what to do with all of those effects contributed to them getting removed.

@TheObsessiveGamer Жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw those a while after. I agree that might be why.

@Peter_1986 3 жыл бұрын

The idea that Link would become Navi is actually kinda trippy - this would basically mean that Link possessed Navi's soul and temporarily erased her self-awareness, or that his and Navi's souls were somehow "blended together".

@ztoogemcducc6360 2 жыл бұрын

"this isn't the first time Link's became a fairy"made me laugh

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

The boy who has become a fairy and a rabbit.

@YaSheNePrydumav 3 жыл бұрын

6:10 potal gun before Portal games

@MaddoScientist0 3 жыл бұрын

so that's where the randomizers got the obtainable songs objects from

@DawnLynnCat 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@nullvoid7188 2 жыл бұрын

i can imagine the light medallion could of been uses to temporally see through the illusions of the shadow temple similar to the eye of truth.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

oh that's a good theory. Along with brightening things up, would remove illusions too

@fritchoffnilsson2574 2 жыл бұрын

The red sword looks like a spinoff of the tempered sword in a link to the past.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

ooh maybe since the game was taking a lot of influence from ALTTP

@JTguitarlessons 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like the medallions were originally meant for progression to and/or in dungeons, like dungeon items. Wind medallion would snuff out torches, fire medallion would melt ice (also let you enter Shadow Temple), ice medallion could possibly freeze water to make a path, light medallion could light things up in the Shadow Temple, shadow medallion would help you with stealth to get you to the Spirit Temple. The spirit medallion could have had something to do with when you lose the ability to use Navi in the fight with Ganondorf. It seems like there was so much planned that they just weren't able to do!

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah item progression seems to be planned for progression. I do however think the Spirit Medallion was more a bonus as it would be "flight mode" like some games allow once you explore the whole game or beat it, which by then you definitely have done that

@adamdenardis5438 2 жыл бұрын

Turning enemies into fairies with the spirit arrows would be easy to fill jars before a boss fight.

@Harry-mb4cs Жыл бұрын

6:50 bro those aren't musical notes. They're sharp, flat and neutral (from bottom to top). Easiest way to explain is sheet music only has room for the white keys on a piano. Sharp and Flat tell you when to hit black keys instead, and Neutral tells you when to go back to hitting the white keys

@SailorGreenTea 3 жыл бұрын

2:07, oh wow.

@linkspokemon4114 3 жыл бұрын

The navi spell could had worked if they either limit the height you can fly or it could only worked in certain areas like dungeons kinda like how furoars wind only works!

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

While I agree with all that being a possibility, the only issue I thing that comes is that the only dungeon after the Spirit Temple is Ganon's Tower which means it would get very limited use and if they put bounding boxes to limit movement outside, they still would have to render some more of the surroundings too as they just cut off what you are supposed to see. Maybe more reasons as to why it was removed in the end afterall.

@kiaelinkx 3 жыл бұрын

A dream comes true!

@blight00000 2 жыл бұрын

They were notes per say, but actually the sharp, flat, and natural symbols that affect notes

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

These were literal items in the item menu found together with the rest of the items. These were the original stones.

@blight00000 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah, I was just saying what the original designs for the stones were. The emerald is designed to look like a natural, which is a symbol that changes a note to its natural sound in music. The ruby is designed to look like a flat, which lowers a notes pitch by a half-step. The sapphire is designed to look like a sharp, which raises a note's pitch by a half-step

@eksmad 2 жыл бұрын

What wiki were you showing in the video? Sadly it is not in the video description. >_

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Oh sorry about that. That is The Cutting Room Floor

@GoodGirlPeruru 3 ай бұрын

Having followed a lot of this since i was a kid, it's strange- i would have expected a lot more separation between old Zelda 64 and Ocarina of Time but it seems like the original vision bled over into the final game for a long, long time, in ways i genuinely do still wish were a thing. Why did they change the spiritual stones? How did the Triforce persist for so long, but still get dropped? Why did they drop the magic in the way it was? Why did they simplify the combat the way they did? Why did they change the face button alignment options? If they hadnt done a lot of those things, Ocarina of Time would genuinely be the *ultimate* Zelda game, an amalgamation of a ton of different mechanics and features that were in prior games and games yet to come out, including the way Majora's Mask handled equipment, the cut dungeons used in Twilight Princess, dungeon mechanics seen in Wind Waker, obtaining the ENTIRE TRIFORCE like in Skyward Sword?! So much of it got cut and now this game's legacy is split across so many different games and it can never be what it should have been as one whole entity, and that's really disappointing. I can see the argument for a change of vision, but they didn't have one- i would say everything they cut could have still fit within the concept of the final game, but they just... scaled back. Maybe it was hardware limitations- i don't know.

@lazychief5223 3 жыл бұрын

Bro that sword animation was SOOOoooo clean I wish we had that 😥😫 0:22

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Truly makes Link looks like a master of the sword :P

@lazychief5223 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah tbh they look cleaner than twilight princesses sword animations

@jackson5116 3 жыл бұрын

1:11 you're worried about the medallion, while I'm the one noticing "jump" for the B button! I'm guessing that's a jump attack, but still.

@ForeverDegenerate 3 жыл бұрын

As he mentions later in the video, nope, that's just straight up jump.

@tomackerman4089 2 жыл бұрын

I think if the Triforce had been in the game it could have been something like you said. As for the Triforce of Courage, maybe Rauru the sage would have given it to Link upon becoming adult Link in the cutscene in which they meet. Rauru could have told Link that he had been keeping it safe for Link and hidden away from Ganondorf until the right time and that Link had proven himself worthy of it. Alternatively, Zelda could have given the Triforce of Courage to Link during their meeting in the Temple of Time right before she got kidnapped by Ganondorf. I think Link would have gotten the Triforce of Power after defeating Ganon as a reward. As for the Triforce of Wisdom, I think Zelda would probably have just given it to Link when she was talking to him after Ganon had finally been defeated. She could have said that it was because Link had proven himself worthy. Then the game could then have concluded with Link having all three pieces of the Triforce.

@tristantanzil5796 2 жыл бұрын

links hair has his shield texture here 3:17

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

haha, yeah the game glitched on me here

@knightman528 Жыл бұрын

What's the name of that website that you showed us the beta medallions 1:24

@Zehenmilch Жыл бұрын

Maybe the spirit arrows would turn enemies into pink heal fairies

@StormySky48 2 жыл бұрын

The spirit arrows basically would have been what they did with the Mario possession cap in Mario Odyssey

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

If that was their effect, then yeah and made by a similar team too lol

@wnrr2696 3 жыл бұрын

I think the green arrows would’ve either blown enemy’s backwards or grown vines that hold them in place for a second attack or to use in climbing.

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

That would be a possibility indeed if the theory on it having to match their medallion's effect was the case.

@wnrr2696 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer how are you able to play the betas etc I think that would be cool to have a crack at, as well as some of these sick mods I’ve seen

@encryptedknight8662 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if you could have combined the elemental arrows?

@robbymeyer826 2 жыл бұрын

Sprit arrows probably let you take control of the object you shot.

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Possibly. Though ever since doing this video it seems some info has come out that shows that when you do shoot something with it, it does leave fairies behind.

@xXdarkdekuXx 3 жыл бұрын

OMG the lens of truth is exactly a crying eye. That is so dope, and I wanted a tattoo of the lens too. Just not sure which

@borisbeloudus2691 3 жыл бұрын

Show us footage from The Missing Link with the soul charged sword beam

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe in a livestream :P

@UnrebornMortuus Ай бұрын

the teleport arrow turned into hookshot i see now

@stevevalley2321 2 жыл бұрын

How would link get the other two pieces of the triforce? The Zelda law states that if one of an evil heart touches the triforce the triforce will separate and go to the three "most worthy" people whereas if one with a righteous heart touches it it will remain whole

@alduin240 3 жыл бұрын

The attack animations would have been so cool ...

@keiyuk 3 жыл бұрын

Damn, the Triforce makes the quest status look so much better and complete... Nintendo should've kept the idea.

@thechallenger6124 3 жыл бұрын

perhaps the spirit arrow turned enemies into poe's. they are a spirit, there are multiple levels of them too, so a weaker enemy would be a lower class one where as if you used it on a stronger enemy you may get a legendary or something and shadow arrow may have been a way too make an enemy hostile towards others as for the rest ive got no clue

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

If they weren't literal copies of medallions as theorized, then maybe so indeed

@thechallenger6124 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer theoretical of course, has any more good info been mined out? i remember back in the day looking for the triforce for years. im convinced there was an epic quest too obtain it originally, maybe even a temple harder than ganon's castle

@dudeat1320 26 күн бұрын

Spirit medallion and arrows would be useable if they were designed to summon fairies instead of turn into one.

@doom64101 3 жыл бұрын

Music playing at 4:00?

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

That's the Spirit Temple music

@5h0ckblock 3 жыл бұрын

Wait so, if beta ice medallion was an attack, then where did nayru's love come from? Could beta Nayru's love have actually been Triforce's Protection?

@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Nayru's Love as far as we know was developed independently from any medallion as such. It may have been made when they decided to separate spells from the Medallions even.

@HighPriestFuneral 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer That's not entirely true. Nayru's Love IS Magic_Dark. Though the files are not 100% consistent with that (some logs mention Light becoming Dark and vice-versa, then more confusion with the sound effect tied to it is Spirit Magic).

@zacharyconfer1828 2 жыл бұрын

I really wish the triforce would fill in as a completed game trophy, considering nothing else in the game changes after you reload. I do like the idea of the hero of time having more diverse powers too, not that he needs them. I'll definitely be imagining from now on that he could turn into a fairy or invisible! If I were designing the other arrows, I think it would make sense if spirit arrows would have a chance to turn lesser enemies into healing fairies, but only if you don't kill them with it, and shadow arrows would make enemies drop magic jars and bottles if the shadow arrow delivers the killing blow. Wind arrows could simply be fired faster, or perhaps like a multi-shot?

@TheObsessiveGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah since I made the video some new info came out and actually the Shadow Arrow is the one that gives us healing fairies. The other ones also lead have various drop rates too including: Light Arrow - Huge Purple Rupee, Wind Arrow - Magic Jar, , Spirit Arrow - Arrow, Shadow Arrow - Fairy. However that's just drop rate. Hard to say what the actual effect would be (like the fire and ice arrows) since we don't have the info for those.

@zacharyconfer1828 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheObsessiveGamer I still think spirit arrows dropping fairies would make more sense, along the point you made in the video. Your idea about shadow arrows taking the light out of areas was really creative and original too 👌 If I were to come up with auxiliary effects for the wind and spirit arrows, it would make sense for wind arrows to push an enemy far away in the direction it's hit. Spirit arrows, if I were thinking for vanilla oot, I would make them one-shot all poes, easing the big poe hunt if you've cleared the spirit temple. But, if I were thinking of a cut content restored/expanded mod that increased difficulty and allowed multiple enemies to attack you at once, spirit arrows could temporarily make enemies disappear, only to reappear moments later, in order to make hordes manageable. I also had ideas for restoring spells to the forest and fire medallions since their spells have been assigned elsewhere: the forest medallion would perform a jump or rolling action like pressing A normally would, but at a small magic cost, Link would have invincibility frames for the movement. Plus, he should go slightly further and move a little swifter for this spell dodge, especially when auto jumping off of a roll, like a super jump. Could have some original platforming puzzle opportunity there. The fire medallion could enable a state where attacking or being attacked ignites enemies, like a flame cloak. I also might would want to change the water medallion from its intended ice effect to a tidal wave attack that wouldn't deal damage to most enemies but, similar to my wind arrow idea, would push all enemies in its line of influence away from link.