Betaflight Filter Settings #2: PID TOOLBOX | Advanced Filter Tuning Tool

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Betaflight Filter Settings #2: PID TOOLBOX | Advanced Filter Tuning Tool

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PID Toolbox is a powerful tool to analyze your quadcopter blackbox, and I will show you how to use it for filter tuning.
Filter Tuning Part 1 (Introduction to Blackbox Explorer):
• Betaflight Filter Sett...
Download PID Toolbox (+ install instructions):
github.com/bw1...
UAV Tech Filter Delay Calc Tool (link in the video description):
• Calculating Filter Del...
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:37 Open your logs
1:02 Set in-point & out-point
1:20 Setup Spectral Analyzer
2:11 How to read 3D-Graphs
2:51 Motor Noise & Harmonics
3:26 Quad Movements
4:02 Mean & Peak Values
4:40 Filter Delay
5:28 D-Term Noise
5:53 Comparison Example
6:27 Conclusion
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@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Coming up next in this series : all the different filters explained (RPM Filters, Dynamic filters...), and how to know what's good for your quad! Is there something in particular you'd like to see ? 😃

@Aldg973 3 жыл бұрын

From my side I would like understand the PID error part from PID toolbox. Thank you, merci!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

@@Aldg973 I'll definitely be working on it, but I still need to tune different setup with this tool before talking about it. Merci beaucoup!

@Aldg973 3 жыл бұрын

@@LenordeFPV i'll be patient. I flight with Emuflight but doesn't matter how to use this tool. Speak french?

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

@@Aldg973 Oui je suis francophone :)

@Aldg973 3 жыл бұрын

@@LenordeFPV haa ok tu vis en France?

@azfpv5967 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, explanation for dummies, this is what is needed in this hobby. Others do a good job of explaining however it usually is not dumbed down enough for people who are not this technical. I'm looking forward to how you explain black box, please make it simple to understand, like good examples and bad examples and what a good tune looks like, this will help many.

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This was precisely my goal, I'm working on other videos on this subject.

@PIDtoolbox 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Lénorde, great job on the PID toolbox video! I am the developer of PID toolbox. Really impressed with your vid. Well done! I thought about making some vids myself but never seem to get around to it. Seems I dont need to now :-) Love to see more! thanks -PS, I dropped a link to you vid on the PTB Github site.

@kibbycabbit 2 жыл бұрын

Hi dev, is it possible to have your own math libraries in a software? Does it really invoke so many different function calls from MATLIB? I would love to see your software to become a full functional standalone app. Thanks!

@PIDtoolbox 2 жыл бұрын

@@kibbycabbit yea, I'd like to port it to js one day

@Aldg973 3 жыл бұрын

I'm impatient to see the next videos about this tool. The way you explain things is very clear for a french like me! So thank you for your work and your clear and precise explanations!🙏🏽👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Merci beaucoup 😀 Les sous-titres en français vont bientôt arriver, si jamais... 😉

@dgfpv1988 3 жыл бұрын

Man I highly appreciate your tutorial. Especially all the details with the sliders when explaining dterm. Keep up the good work!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot :D

@balancetonquad6907 3 жыл бұрын

Je viens justement d’essayer pid toolbox et c’est un bel outil qui nous donne pas mal d’infos. Merci pour tes explications, j’interprète un peu ces graphiques grâce à toi :) 👍👍 Du coup, je vais soft mount mes moteurs et pouvoir constater la différence

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Hello! Merci pour le retour ;) J'espère que tes tests se passent bien. Je n'ai jamais vraiment fait de comparaison avec les soft-mounts de moteurs, mais je sais que le sujet a été fort controversé pendant tout un temps. Peut-être un sujet à traiter pour plus tard... 😀

@PadiwanFPV 3 жыл бұрын

This is an extremely well put together lecture and tutorial on a difficult subject. Excellent work!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the nice feedback 😀

@ruirpm 3 жыл бұрын

Simple and clean tutorial vídeo. For begginers, your videos are the best! Will share and help your Channel. Keep doing it!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you too ! 😀😀

@Gespar 3 жыл бұрын

Great series! i have watched a lot of top Tubers guide videos how to use blackbox, and your videos tells the most important things very quickly and clearly. Been in hobby for 5 years and counting myself as a pro, but blackbox is something that i have always tried to avoid due to its complexity (been rocking kiss and RF). Now when trying to tune this 13" 8kg monster i got no choice but learn to tune with the blackbox. So maby make next a tuning video how to tune quad for HD footage. I mean tune that prioritize steady footage on full throttle range (in wind and no wind) over the ultimate flight performance and propwash handling

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment! As a professional videographer, my goal is to focus on HD footage. This series is still covering the basics, but I hope it will become more and more precise in the future. Bigger quads are also in my to-do list ! Full throttle seems to be kind of a hard range to tune, because so many factors are introduced in the data (same goes for the wind). What camera are using on your 13" monster? 😀

@kula200477 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your job. Nice explanation 👍. It will help me to start with understanding and tuning my quad.

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I hope it will be helpful for you ;)

@eliastzirakis585 3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations. Very precise and quick tips. Thank you

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😀

@maplefpv 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice production quality. Keep it up

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much ! 😀

@paperoha 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You are doing the right thing!! Really appreciated.

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😀

@elbereto 3 жыл бұрын

good job, thank you

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ;)

@dgfpv1988 3 жыл бұрын

Finally!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah 😅

@captain_aek 5 ай бұрын

good video bro I like it

@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful information, thank you. New supporter, +1, keep up the great vids.

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot 😀

@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын

@@LenordeFPV Yw bro, great info you're providing :)

@Thewiruz1 3 жыл бұрын

Finally :) Good job!

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes 😀 Thank you !

@gamefree450 3 жыл бұрын

so nice

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😉

@d2ka 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video. I miss some real examples what you really cen do except moving the sliders to tune your filters. I mean to do it more precise with manual numbers input, differences between PT1 and BiQAD etc. Anyway I like your videos very much, keep making them as often as you can. Maybe PID tuning next time?

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thank you very much for your comment. This video is only an introduction to the tool. The next videos will cover different Betaflight settings, and I will use PID Toolbox to show their effects and how to tune them. It was not possible to incorporate everything in one video, so filters are split into a series and sliders were just one exemple. I hope you'll enjoy the next videos too 😀

@bkfpv 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Thank you.

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ;)

@riccardopernumian6871 3 жыл бұрын

Please continie this series i need all your esperience for tuning my quad whit matematic and not whit feeling

@LenordeFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! There will be more episodes 😉

@quaneu9216 2 жыл бұрын

i get my d term prefilt very noisy stock filter roll peak 1.24 mean 0.269 pitch peak 2.66 mean 0.42 then i try your filter setting （lesser delay） roll peak 2.05 mean 0.38 pitch peak 5.17 mean 0.46 and then i try chris rosser aggresive filter it become super bright and hot roll peak 3.43 mean 1.15 pitch peak 5.79 mean 1.44

@quaneu9216 2 жыл бұрын

and i been experience hot motor is it because of not enough filtering

@LenordeFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Prefilt signals are not related to any Betaflight settings but only to your physical configuration. Small quads, bad frames, or damaged motors are some sources of noise that will make your pre-filtered signal very hot. The goal of filter tuning is to find the right balance between phase delay and keeping your motors safe. If you can't fix any physical issue to have less noise in your pre-filtered signal, you only need to look at the filtered traces and motor temperature. If it's clean, your motors should be safe. If it's still noisy after filtering, it will be harder to reduce your phase delay, because you can't reduce the amount of filtering too much. I hope it helps you understand what you should be looking for! Tell me if you need more info.