You also made a mistake with your definition of fascism. I addressed it on my other comment

He also abstained from mentioning Yugoslavia by name, which is mentioned in the manga, despite it being clear from the maps Marco lives in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.

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Interesting fact! Where did you find that?

@@Polo9794 Miyazaki: If you couldn't feel it from the film, that'll be better. I shouldn't have made the story take place in the Adriatic Sea in the first place. Many people think it took place in Italy, but Porco lives on the Croatian shoreline. Then it became the warfield by the civil war. I was just going to make a story you can just grin at (ufufu), but it became more complicated. Then, I had to read the modern history of Yugoslavia, but there isn't a consistent history book, and it was very difficult to make sense out of it. Gosh, I was careless. I always try to make a film uncomplicated, but somehow, it gets complicated. It was the same thing with Laputa. I thought I could make it more uncomplicated, but it's inevitable that my own various thoughts creep in, and make things complicated. When I finish making up the story, somehow, I find I made the story complicated. Certainly, I made Porco as I wanted. I couldn't do it in any other way. But I also feel kind of humiliated for changing the plan in the middle, not making it as planned from the start. You know, I was going to make a forty-five minutes movie, and it became more than twice as long. -laughs- Here's a quote from an interview, you can easily find it online

這麼簡單的道理，中俄領導卻不懂

It could be both, though.

@@Gaawachan that’s what I’m thinking

Survivor's guilt is absolutely a part of it- it's something many soldiers have to deal with as part of their PTSD. His guilt and his trauma from the war both lead him to the same place- that is, losing his humanity and abandoning connections to the people around him. Personally, I had always seen it as him taking the step more voluntarily- he didn't _lose_ his humanity, he got rid of it because of the things he had seen humanity do in the war. But I don't think that's necessarily any more correct than other ways to interpret things in the movie- Miyazaki, much like David Lynch, is much more concerned with the _feeling_ of a film and what it evokes than he is about any specific details of plot or story. Porco is a pig because being a pig is what suits the film's purposes, and no particular explanation for the exact reasons is necessary.

@@manmaw_prod It could very well be, that scene when Rosso goes to "pilot heaven" is so emotionally charged.

@@matiasbonta7829 i’ve gotten high and cried to that scene several times

One directly and specifically caused by artificially inflated Nationalism by the elite, no less.

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Are you implying that these Japanese artists were somehow partially responsible for previous war crimes? Otherwise, I dont understand what the point youre trying to make is??

​@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 This has nothing to do with WW2. This is the Yugoslav Wars!

@@abxy2257 Just ignore these guys, they are the ‘learn from history enthusiast’ who only learn about history of them getting attacked, and forget when they are the attacking. Or simply only remember when they are the good and completely ignore all their bad going’s. As if there is a single country in the entire world that is purely sinless(?) and have never committed a war crime.

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I see one more moronic fan of whatifalthist and I’ll spread your guts across this website

I think we can perhaps differentiate between the greedy pigs and Porco and the noble wild boars of the forests of yore. Perhaps there is a link, but the corruption in Mononokehime comes from outside and is not exemplified by being porcine. I think.

@@agin1519 there is of course a difference between both, but they still carry a significant similarity in the motives they play. They are creatures Who had but Lost faith, in a general sense. The wild boars lost their faith in the ways of the forest and gave themselves to corruption, just like porco lost his faith on humanity and the revolution

Furthermore pigs are common antagonists notably in the Zelda series and Mother 3. Pigs look more like humans than any other animal as primates are people in fursuits/animatronics which renders evolution laughable. Mehr Wahrheit1 has a great video on thalidomide and how pigs are actually boar/human hybrids. Given all of the fake animals we're exposed to I believe her research here. Miyazaki is privy to knowledge regular people are not by virtue of his status on the world stage and being an obvious freemartin. He likely knows the true origin of pigs as boar/human artificial creations and fleshes out much of the darker truths about this world through the vehicle of this highly modified creature. Sick world we live in

I dont get properly labeled renderings of the subatomic structure of key portions of my [citizens] central nervous systems.

@@tophario1492 I'm going to screenshot this and send it to my friends, wow that is insane

I agree, it’s honestly in my top five favorite films as well.

I think this video essay is trying to see something beneath those superficial veneer.

And socialism

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My favorite as well. Beautiful movie

Hope Giorgia Meloni doesn't cancel that celebration.

Funnily enough, Portugal also has a holiday in the 25th of April. The Carnation Revolution where the military rose up against the authoritarian regime. So yeah. 25th of April seems to be a popular date to fight fascism!

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@@noneofyourbusiness4616 She's not a Fascist, since fascism embraces socialist/communist ideas.

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 she's not that powerful ;)

To be precise, the song was written before the Paris Commune, in 1866, however it became associated with it later.

Poor commies, they never hurt a fly.

thank you!

​@@golDroger88 blah

@@golDroger88 The communards weren't the stalinists or leninists of the 20th centruy, but actual marxist socialists fighting for a better life. Maybe read up on the Paris commune instead of spouting BS.

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The character that is most like him is the protagonist of wind rises Jiro Horikoshi, miyazaki portrayed a lot of himself in him

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Mussolini was given the position of PM before the Black Shirts marched on Rome. Mussolini did not lead a coup. He was chosen by the king. The "coup" was a PR move.

@@darkhobo ... What? They marched on Rome and that's why he was given the PM position - to stop them attacking the city.

@@shraka bro, just look it up. He was already given power before the march. The march was just for show. He was already PM.

@@darkhobo can you please give us a source?

I also think it's in part because of what he mentioned with the 'red pig' being used for communists and socialists. The state sees him as a pig and as other people are the components of the larger machine of fascism, they do so too. Only those who know him as well as possible can look past what the state forces them to see and see him for what he is; just a man, separated from his political beliefs. One reason why he may have became a pig was because of what the state was telling everyone. More and more people see him as it until it is his identity. He is owned by his beliefs, and they make up what everyone sees of him on the surface. Only when you look deeper into his character and become more acquainted with him do people not see him as such. Curtis also notes Porco's 'transformation' back into a human. Curtis, as an American, would have been by nature deeply insulted by the very idea of fascism due to his belief of freedom and as such may have considered Porco to be part of this machine himself, having not acquainted himself with his good works over the years (such as saving the captured ship from terrorists). After the duel, however, Curtis sees Porco as just another man, as vulnerable as the other men around him. He is no different; he is just a human with different beliefs. Curtis realises this and so sees Porco for what he truly is. I also see this whole argument of the pig being just a veil used by the state to hide his true self from the people as being another reason why Ferrari sees Porco as something else. Ferrari watched Porco betray Italy for his own beliefs and yet seeing such an act of heroics performed by the man caused Ferrari never to adopt that vision of Porco as a pig. Porco may refer to himself as one solely because according to the state he is, but Ferrari is wiser, and understands who Porco is and what he stands for. That's probably a good reason why at the very end, Ferrari announces that the Air Force are on their way and for everyone to depart lest they be harmed. Ferrari doesn't want to harm these people because, much like Fio, and Curtis, he sees Porco and the others for what they are. Finally, I also wanted to note how the theme of animals constantly comes up. Well, less so animals but moreso humans looking like them. Porco's mechanic Mr. Piccolo and the Federated Pirates all have multiple things in common, the most notable of which are their distinct appearances. They're being shown as 'animals' for their beliefs. The Federated Pirates are being shown as animals because, much like in Porco's case, the state is concealing who he is and slandering his reputation as a man solely for his beliefs. Porco and the Pirates are two sides of the same law-breaking coin. Mr. Piccolo, on the other hand, is described as a 'mole' due to his appearance, but I believe this is because he's effectively an undercover individual. He's not publicly out in unison with Porco about his beliefs and anti-fascism; he actually operates in society just fine, but secretly, deep down, he's a 'mole', an undercover agent for Porco to get parts and pieces of his plane from. No one else but Porco makes this statement, so I believe that this is actually slightly more separate from the whole theory of Porco being shown as a pig by the fascist state; it's because only Porco sees Mr. Piccolo for what he truly is, that being a man AND a mole. He's both an undercover agent and a man and Porco doesn't treat Piccolo any different for it. No one else sees it but should they, they absolutely would treat him differently for it...they just haven't picked up on his subtle support of anti-fascist views yet.

Yoo is that da real Heisenburg ?

It’s like, “Better dead, than red.”

@@weego2585 Republicans have given new meaning and life to that saying.

@@simonmagid4205are you kidding. AOC came out the other day came out and said Tucker Carlson should be regulated by the government. Next thing we know he has been fired.

​​@@bngr_bngr Newsflash: Carlson's boss, Rupert Murdoch, is not the government. He is hostile to and has no reason to follow supposed instructions from a Democratic member of Congress who had no power to remove Carlson. Try to rub two brain cells together.

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One detail that has always irked me: the blue-and-green flags seen in in 3:07 and elsewhere are entirely fictional and have nothing to do with the Fascist movement (or with Italy as a country) Given that the film is otherwise very straightforward in its historical setting and its political message, I've always wondered why they wouldn't use actual Fascist symbology in those scenes.

@@ArkadiBolschek Perhaps so as to not have fascist symbols in the movie. Also perhaps because the goal was to get us to see the fascism/authoritarianism around us, a thing we'd miss if we could put the symbols into a box marked "historical artifact."

@@p.strobus7569 Yet the air force planes pursuing Porco Rosso towards the end do have Fascist symbols on them. It's like they couldn't make up their mind whether they wanted to portray Fascist imagery or not (?)

@@ArkadiBolschek because you should have grasped the repeated theme by the end of the film, so there's not as much reason to hold as much pretense, if you'd paid attention or had a brain

"When pigs fly!"

I would agree that "ordinary pig" is a better translation. The Japanese line is 飛ばねぇ豚はただの豚だ。Sayingただの豚 instead of just ただ豚 changes the nuance from "just a pig" to "just an ordinary pig" imo! I'm not a native speaker though

@@cedricletherisien4363 Much belated thanks for clarifying. I was relying on external translation souces for my original post, and it is always good to hear from someone more knowledgeable.

Uhh... Where's your home country? What happened there?

@@canesvenatici4259 Venezuela, and what happened is a series or riots and protest against the government that lasted for over a year and were escalating to the point of happening nationwide. This happened amidst the worse economic crisis venezuela had ever experienced by far, with our money reaching zimbabwe levels were a single dollar was equivalent to billions of Bolívares. There was huge scarcity and the president had the audacity to reject an offer for humanitarian aid from the UN because "everything was fine". So the protest escalated to riots, they were happening on everywhere, from small towns in the rural parts of the country to all the big cities. And the government answered with brutal repression, eventually relying on sending the military to shoot people. I was a first aids volunteer, and had the place where I lived with my mom raided twice and I almost got shot. So I ended up packing my shit, as most of my friends did, and left to a better country with plans of bringing my family here eventually.

​@@SilverAlex92I have some random questions that if inappropriate, you don't need to answer. Has this experience changed your opinion on if citizens have the right to own arms(arms NOT firearms)** for the purposes of defense against any threat foreign or domestic? I know you chose to leave the violence, so I'm thinking you personally wouldn't have chosen to purchase arms to defend yourself. That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government? **The reason why I and America's founding fathers say arms, is because we believe that citizens have the right to own the same weapons as any government. The right isn't limited to firearms

​@@TheGrowlingAraknid In venezuela there were many legal open carry laws, and its country particularly lax in its gun control laws. The country doesn't faces mass shooters issues as you do, but rather the issue is that even a petty thief is packing a gun and crime groups own military grade weapons. In particular during those protest the government used citizen wielding guns as an excuse to allow the use if live ammunition to repress the riots. The sent the military wearing full tactical gear, including bullet proof vests, gas masks, and in some cases high grade weapons. There were reports of snipers used a couple of times. If everyone was armed and had the will to fight the govt to the end, the riots would have ended in a massacre. People with guns and zero real combat experience stand no chance against a full tactical team using tear gas, stun grenades, and live amunation. And on top of that the fact that some people DID bring guns, in the american style of fight for your country was the reason the repression went from police brutality to military using live ammo on your citizens. To answer this question "That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government?" Well, the thing is I did take that choice. And I concluded that well intended revolutionaries don't stand a chance against an organized military force that has full approval to use their entire arsenal. The image of revolutionaries storming the capitol and replacing the government, while noble as thought in your constitution, or in movies is a lie. It will only happen IF and ONLY IF the military itself decides not to shoot the people and let them reach the capitol/senate/white house.

@@SilverAlex92 I get that civilians can't typically fight governments but that's due to governments banning arms but not firearms. We are supposed to have nukes if we wanted, since we trust the government to have them. Yes they can kill us all, the point of fighting isn't to win by defeating them. The point is to force the government to concede, since the way they are directly paid is through our taxes. If they kill 100,000 tax payers who paid let's say 5 dollars a year, they now never get paid 500,000 dollars a year from them. After a certain amount of death, governments would have to concede. If not then they were planning on enslaving you anyways. Without a gun, how much resources would a government need to spend to realistically get any of us to comply? It can be done with a couple unarmed dudes, what are we gonna do? Punch mutiple guys and win? With arms, now what does it take? They are now risking losing a government agent, if they don't want to risk it, now they have to spent 100,000 dollars to drone strike one guy, a taxpayer, in a neighborhood. Which means now, if they cared, have to pay for the neighboring houses they destroyed. Now add 250,000-850,000 to the previous cost. If they don't pay, citizens lose their trust in said government and are less likely to support the more it happens. That's just if one dude is armed with a basic rifle, now what if he had mortar launcher or a stinger missile launcher? The cost increases. Granted this only works if the citizens are willing to die for their freedom. If the population is too she-dog to die for beliefs then ofc the government. But they are the ones who benefit of your fear. Would it ever benefit a slavemaster to kill any and all of his slaves? No, right? Who will work for him if they are dead? I get that death is scary and it's a personal choice if you'd rather live a humiliating slave life or fight demanding the government respect you. They used people having guns as the excuse? Would you say that it's vaild? Couldn't it rather be that the government will find any excuse to justify any action, considering it's the government? For example Israel routinely justifies killing dozens to 100's of Palestinians saying that because "they assaulted us with rocks!" That them taking over more and more Palestinian land is justified. I'd say that's akin to what your government was doing. Governments don't like violent protests. I ask this, Why SHOULD any government ever listen or care about what it's citizens want? we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, where with you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristrocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all? This was actually a quote from founding father Patrick Henry, said in a Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1788 Why did the protests happen in the first place? Over inflation? Did you guys blame the government for that? Or were they doing something extra to ?

That's a possibility, but I've always read that Marco/Porco is a pig because that's all he seems himself as. He can't forgive himself for having survived when so many didn't. As our Esteemed Host says, he lost his humanity in the war, and it wasn't until the later half of the film that he allowed himself to slowly regain it.

@@DrBunnyMedicinal I think there are multiple reasons and meanings why he is or turned into a pig. The one I mentioned is only one of them. His sorta of nihilistic behaviour could also be one of the reasons why and I agree with you.

My friend believes he is a pig because he's a burn victim from previous flights. It was apparently very common for pilots to suffer burns during dog fights, and the shiny, crackled appearance of pig skin, the glasses always being worn and his self image do line up pretty well with this theory.

@@GNARical Huh. That's a theory I haven't heard before, though it does have both some plausibility and an interesting new angle to throw onto the canon. Thanks for sharing it. 👍

But it is still noting even with this undesirability his image as charismatic still can’t be killed

I am eager to watch it.

Not really mutually exclusive

disagree* ...

To explain the extent fascists love the stolen Valor thing, there was literally an entire term for it: Vittoria Mutilata or “Mutilated Victory” It basically inspired their irredentism (for context irredentism is basically “I deserve more stuff, it’s my right to own this, and I will take it by any means.” After WW1 the Italians felt betrayed, which to be fair they actually were as their allies gave them Jack crap compared to what they were promised so the Italians weren’t hypocrites at least, but it defo reinforces the stolen Valor thing.

@@coolsceegaming6178 In Germany they built up a similar thing called "the legend of the backstabbing", where they blamed center and left politicians for their defeat. This lead into a period of escalating violence, political instability, and the rise of proto-fascist paramilitary groups called "Freikorps".

stolen glory?

I don't know, I don't personally mind calling it a children's film. Maybe something better would be "Family film." A lot of Ghibli movies are taken through the lens of children. See your Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro. Very few people understand that children are far more capable of understanding heavier concepts than we give them credit for.

Completely agree, there's nothing for children about this movie, so I don't know why did he call it a "children's cartoon" did he confuse this with loony toons or something? I liked his analysis but that first phrase kinda bugged me😅. It's an animated movie not a children's cartoon.

@@EzraM5 I've seen Porco Rosso and Howl's Moving Castle many times as a child but I didn't understand them until I was a teenager.

​@@alenezi989a3Looney Toons is literally made for adults.

Grave of the Fireflies was directed by Isao Takahata, one of Studio Ghibli's co-founders and Miyazaki's good friend/partner. They had a lot of shared influences, but their work is distinct from each other's :)

Wait, what official stance in Grave of the Fireflies? That war is awful?

@@shraka "That it's the boys fault for not putting up with his aunt's bullshit and that's why they died, not because the war is bad and Imperial Japan was fucked up, but because kids like him didn't suck it up" I'm paraphrasing but you can Google the interview pretty easily

@@KaiTenSatsuma Takahata even had to issue an apology after that, saying he didn't intend for the movie to be an ode to conformism, blind-obedience and to be such a heavy-handed guilt-trip. Because yeah, guilt-tripping your youth for not having lived during war times is a pretty fucked up thing to do, even if they're spoiled brats.

@@KaiTenSatsuma I mean, it’s also accurate to say that the message is “I did these stupid things and my sister died, so don’t act like you’ve got everything figured out, remember to be grateful for how good you have it, and swallow your pride for more important things.” Just my takeaway.

Hyup... It's nothing but a bunch of handwringing to distract people from the fact that they're completely okay with the atrocities committed by fascist ideologies. Not that they themselves would truly be able to live in such a government, for how much they want one so badly.

far more worrying is that fascist never see themselves as so. which means you could be one.

Because "fascist" has become a slur used to demonize and dehumanize people and opinions with which the user disagrees.

A factor for the negative reaction is probably since fascism’s definition has been so muddied so much that it’s literally just used as a “slur” and is explained as “we wanna invade other countries and murder everyone except for ourselves” instead of being explained as being a form of ultranationalism

Womp womp

It's the only Ghibli I still watch in French ^^ Really disappointed that they changed the French dub of "Le Temps des Cerises" by the Japanese one in the DVD and on streaming services. Had to track down an VHS to get the original.

I'm sorry if I'm being assholish, but how do you even manage that lol, the movie is so overt in its themes that it feels strange that someone misses the anti facist themes.

@@beechboiii People like me just don't really notices things when watching movies. Not even meaning they're dumb, it's just the inactivity. Fuck I can barely remember what a movie is about 10 minutes later.

​@@beechboiii It all depends on the viewing mental state at that time. For example, one of my favorite 'relaxing' Ghibli movie is 'From Up the Poppy Hill'. If I turn on the 'movie critic' brain, I can see the undertone of the Japanese struggle to reconcile its past and tradition with the booming economic future of that time. In my 'relaxing' mode, the movie is just a nostalgic trip back to high school and puppy loves.

​@@beechboiii it's because it requires actual attention , or rewatches to understand the stances of a movie

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Same!

You can't find a bad Ghibli movie

Same here. And in French,Porco os dubbed by Jean Reno,so cool!

Definitely one of many Ghibli movies that touched me the most as a teen

rip bozo

my god, the Ghibli Batman agenda! looking forward to Robert Pattinson's va talents in a future Ghibli release :)

And Jean Reno did in the French dub. :)

fascism and national socialism but failed to defeat the red menace

Let that be your call to action then. I'm not saying you should charter a boat and land on Normandy, just that the best way to honor that generation is to carry on that fight. Give no ground to Fascism.

@@cameronmcleod8419 agreed. The best way to ensure fascism never comes back we need to be vigilant and make sure our freedoms are never infringed upon.

“The monster never dies no matter how many times you kill it. It just sheds its skin and changes form. Can feel the weight of the world pushing me down. I try to carry it nonetheless. One last time. Then I can rest.”

You're a long way from tankville, man.

Could be a simple film makers mistake to have those in the film?

that is a stupid phrase if you understand what fascism is.

@@redwojak5182 Oh, I know what fascism is. And yeah, I’d rather be a pig.

Fascists and pigs are one and the same

@@redwojak5182 Speak less.

​@@redwojak5182 Go follow your leaders. Swing by your ankles or paint a bunker wall.

It's blatantly pro-Commie and Anti-Fascist.. The US wouldn't like it. 😅

An outstanding essay for an outstanding film. Every Accented Cinema video is great, but he's really outdone himself with this one.

theres more i want to say here, but i'll leave my original comment succinct. this is coming to the fore in my life now, seing fascists rise to crush those under their foot for daring to stay visible, crushing my trans sisters and brothers as deviant and decadent, pornographic and malicious. we are made out to be pigs, which i will stand confidently in opposition to, but i will also proudly say as a fan of a rough, dumb, brave red pig, i'd gladly be one too, then see myself losing my inside humanity. though i'd give Porco a piece of my mind first. Women are none your lesser, and i'd remind him if he saw me any lesser because of my identity, that reactionism of that kind is no better than those who would see pigs dead.

@@xymaryai8283 What "fascists" might you be referring to? As far as I know the whole 'trans' movement is pretty US centric, and I'd be curious to hear about any places or people using "Oppressive, dictatorial control", and what exactly that control looks like.

@@xymaryai8283 PUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA there's no way you're being serious right now. Not allowing transgenders to spew their insane propaganda to children is not "fascism".

@@OntheOtherHandVideos there are examples across Europe, Asia and Africa, some worse than the worst that Florida or Tennessee has to offer, but you're right its not a global movement, and places like Australia are relatively safe, even Britan is not as dangerous as mild red States. but i have a lot of friends in places like Texas, and they are always dangerously tetering on the edge, being denied humanity and living miserably, living dangerously, or not living. (i assume you meant anti-trans movement, because trans people have existed since gender has existed, across the entire planet, in every small culture)

​@@based_kaiser9015 I was going to respond to you but ig there's no use arguing with someone so far down the rabbit hole.

Good point. Arguably, fascism doesn't support state monopoly on violence so much as *Party* monopoly on violence. Extra-governmental violence is fine so long as it's done by the right kind of thugs.

@@shatterquartz I don't think the monopoly on violence is the right angle to take. All types of states (e.g. fascist, dictatorial, democratic) will claim that monopoly. I'd argue that the difference with fascism is that violence is legitimized when it is employed in the interests of the fascist party or personality.

A bit of nuance here. I cringe at most people too eager to express nothing but a blind disgust toward Fascism/Nazism with little to no knowledge on either movements. Anything goes when you're taught to hate something so radically. People aren't asking the right questions like how is it that we all spit fire against right wing authoritarianism as we constantly watch movies/animations depicting them as caricatures of ultimate evil but what we don't see is Communism in any form (live action/animation), where's 0 major production on Bolsheviks, Red Terror, 0 on Holodomor (killed 10 million Ukrainians), 0 on Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, 0 on Gulags, mass murdering of intelligencia, murder of Romanov family... nothing on more deadly leaders than Hitler, like Stalin or even Mao. Such questions are a path to escape the Matrix. Evil as Fascism/Nazism might have been, they lost and are not back, but those who won, they run the entertainment industry, ivy leagues and corporate world. I'm lucky if this even reaches you as such comments (no matter how objective and simply asking questions) are not even public. I try to view them with another account and they're not there. If you do read this however, do give me a feedback and if you'd like to interact more, that'd be impossible here so I have a similar username and same avatar on X.

This Is for sure a "Common animation hater L"

Lipstick and men's underwear are also good indicators of Economic leveling. Women buy more lipstick during low times, because they want to look&feel better during hardship. Men buy new socks & undies after the hardship is over.

Spirited Away must have so much parable and allegory. There are bits I can make out perhaps. The company v traditional life. The soot that must keep working or it will turn back to soot. The greedy parents with credit cards and cash who think that can solve everything. Nohface who thinks gold can solve everything, and the need for ravenous consumption. Haku as a kind of salaryman/husband loyal to the company, instead of his love. The giant grotesque baby and the fear of disease, and yet the baby is not even noticed to be missing. There’s so much criticism of the bubble and post-bubble economy there, but I’m sure a bit more cultural knowledge opens it up. The train that only goes one way. The cottage with a twin granny who is nothing like her contract giving/industry leading sister. It’s a real masterpiece to my mind.

As an American, I wouldn't say we have an anti-fascist tradition at all, actually.

@@Hifuutorian Well, call it 'WWII narrative' then 🤷🏽‍♂️ Indiana Jones ,Captain America, the Inglorious Bastards... That thing

@@Hifuutorian We like to have our cake and eat it.

Good point, and this is incidentally how you can tell that fascism was a far-right regime (contrary to what some ignorant commenters appear to believe): the rich, and the upper classes in general, were pretty much left alone to enjoy their lavish lifestyle. If you had enough money, Italy under Mussolini could feel like a perfectly normal country. It certainly felt that way to a lot of foreign tourists.

@@shatterquartz People forget that internal german living standards were highest during most of the war of any country besides the US, far away from the fighting. Hitler was obsessed with preventing another "stab in the back" and internal socialist revolution that he blamed on losing germany WW1, so he devoted a large amount of stolen resources from invaded countries to keeping german middle and upper class fat and happy. Production of peace time consumer goods continued basically as normal for far longer in germany than in all other major countries in WW2, Germany was the last country of the major powers to enter a full war economy, in mid 1943 under Albert Speer, much later than everyone else. It was a major reason they lost the war. A major goal of Hitler was making sure the suffering of the war touched the german elite as little as possible. Germany comparably to most other countries was careful not to do anything that might upset the profit of their industrialists and capitalists (while at the same time also of course giving them ungodly amounts of blood money in contracts for warmachines and in facilitating the Holocaust.)

Pretty sure Gina's bits were in Croatia, not Italy

@@Peasham Very possibly, it seemed to be in a sort of political no man's land. Now the island where the final duel took place was definitely in Italian territorial waters.

@@Peasham Now, come to think of it, if Gina's island was in Croatia, that would have put it under Titist Yugoslavian rule after WW2, and that seems inconsistent with the epilogue. So perhaps the island is indeed technically Italian.

just embrace populism goofy

I would better describe Porco Rosso as a social democrat to outright socialist. it's never made clear what he is, but that's just my interpetation

why?

@@redcrown5154 Why why

@@juicedbeetlejuice4572 go ahead. explain why the above are bad.

@@redcrown5154 Alright Fascism- One Party centralized state following a majority rule mentality, this system is(and I hope I don’t have to tell you this) inherently Un-Democratic and easily turned oppressive. It follows a shrinking of the allowed political spectrum in a country and fully embraces Militarism. Advocates for the full restriction of individualism in favor of subservience to the greater country, which is often represented by the state, which is often represented by the Party, which is often headed by a “Strong-Man” dictator.. you see where that goes. While it’s not inherently Racist or discriminatory, it often is due to the next point I’ll get into. Nationalism- Okay this one is a bit complicated, there are different kinds of Nationalism and not all of them are technically bad per-say. There are three main types of Nationalism: Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism and Civic Nationalism. Ethnic Nationalism is exactly what it sounds like and is a philosophy that’s been historically adopted in countries like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan most famously. This advocates for the holding of a particular Ethnic group over others and is inherently discriminatory. This is about the worst kind of Nationalism you’ll probably find. This type of Nationalism is possible in countries with a defined Race or Ethnic group and doesn’t really apply to Multi-Cultural countries. Cultural Nationalism advocates for the expanse of a certain Culture over others-For example, people from Quebec would be Culturally Nationalist if they tried to force Quebecois culture on the rest of Canada. This is possible in just about every country and is discriminatory in most cases. And finally Civic Nationalism- This is where It gets a bit complicated as it’s not technically inherently discriminatory- It often entails the holding/forcing of a particular ideology or political stance above others. This one is a bit situational, If it’s something like trying to bring Democracy and Equality to oppressed minorities or something.. than yeah, it’s not a bad thing in the sense- But on the other hand if you’re say.. trying to dominate the political setting with something like Nazism you can see why it could be a bad thing. But generally this is the most tame sense of Nationalism and in many ways has benefits. You see this type of Nationalism generally in Multi-Cultural countries that aren’t tied to a certain Ethnic group or defined Culture; Take Brazil or The USA as examples. Generally Nationalism isn’t a good thing, there’s nothing wrong with being patriotic for your Country or Ethnicity but generally trying to force it on others or trying to get rid of anyone who isn’t you will never be a good idea. Authoritarianism- Repressiveness.. restriction of personal rights in favor of greater control from a centralized government headed by a couple people.. do I need to explain this to you? Begone internet troll

​@@juicedbeetlejuice4572 Nazi annihilated, amazing response

_"A 2023 Europe and the world is slowly slipping towards fasc ism"_ Nope. Nobody in Eur ope is advocating for revolutionary soci alism based on nati onal synd icalism. At least not yet.

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. "not yet" not yet sir not yet. But some where somewhat on the same track kind off or some other facist track

​@@arealist4488 Best not bother with them. They're harassing virtually everyone who says fascism is bad.

@@EzraM5 yeah but a few of us who know our way around history books and been places other than our hometowns can at the least keep speaking up against this new madness. I know it won't do much but atleast good people will be warned and some innocent lives will be saved.

​@@arealist4488 I understand that and I have no doubt you could run circles around this guy if it was in person. But there's better places to do that then here in the KZfaq Comments section. Better to just make fun of them and ignore them than to dignify their arguments with a response.

It’s even on our currency.

Yeah, like that spongebob episode where they go on strike against Mr. Krabs

​@@nopizzawithoutpineapple I remember being so confused by the picket sign joke in that episode haha

i actually laughed when he said that only because I immediately remembered tree trunk's protesting against princess bubblegum in adventure time were her sign said "fascist" (in reference to bubblegum) on the front in cursive glitter. so technically porco is not the only kids show to at least have the word in it at least?

The best revenge is a life well lived, after all. Fascists hate what they can't control.

@@EzraM5 How is a hedonistic, materialist, consumerist, degenerate life a "life well lived"???

☝️ See above. Maybe if he wasn't so high strung about getting so nosy about other peoples' lives, he would probably be a happier person. So instead he has to resort to trying to win arguments online. Truly such a sad state to be in. 😔

@@EzraM5 Sorry but it's not me who's getting nosy about other peoples' lives though??? An increasingly leftist and neoliberal society as well as the propagation of degeneracy in the public, all funded generously by the federal government is what is being nosy. They're trying to get people to go against the natural order of things, and when you disagree, they call you a fascist. Then when you react, they call you a right-wing terrorist. So how am I the one being nosy in this clown world??? Please explain???

​@@based_kaiser9015 Ah okay here's your explanation: Commit eugenics, start with yourself.