Better Than Neural Amp Modeler?!?! (Tonocracy is FREE)

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Better Than Neural Amp Modeler?!?! (Tonocracy is FREE)

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6 ай бұрын

Tonocracy is FREE now so I have nothing to complain about. It is awesome and is a solution for people who are looking to have effects on the Neural Amp Modeler.
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@Airtrooper719 5 ай бұрын

Dont forget the most important step. Setting your interface instrument input dBu level on the INPUT block in tonocracy and then setting your gain knob to ZERO (can be found in your interface manual under tech specifications). Yes, it makes a massive difference to how the profiles react and sound.

@georgeg4136 4 ай бұрын

I have MOTU M4, should I also set the input gain to zero?

@tusk922 2 ай бұрын

@@georgeg4136 Yes

@itorresv97 Ай бұрын

Thanks mate, this is key for getting it to sound right. I'm using Scarlett 2i2 1st gen and I found the right dBu level in my interface manual under the name "Max input level".

@DopamineOverload 10 күн бұрын

Hi! So, if I have a MOTU M4.... do I set Input 1's gain literally to 0 (knob all the way down) and just turn up the input stuff inside Tonocracy? I'm a bit new to this, as I've only used Guitar Rig 5 for the most part... and, usually I get decent sound, having my Motu set to about noon or so, gain-wise. I don't touch anything in Guitar Rig 5, other than changing presets and small tweaks. Usually it sounds pretty balanced. But I'd love to try this, especially with it being open-source and whatnot. Thanks so much!

@itorresv97 10 күн бұрын

@@DopamineOverload Yeah dude, go for it. Look up your interface user manual so you can get the right dBu level to set up Tonocracy with it.

@verybadatsinging 5 ай бұрын

loving your videos, i'm a big fan!

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

@rocknreplay 5 ай бұрын

This thing sounds amazing. I thought Bias Amp and Bias FX sounded good, but this thing is pretty awesome.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Those are all great, but this is something special 👍

@iurigrang 5 ай бұрын

The EQ section is not post amp. It tries to emulate an amp EQ (not the EQ of the amp that was profiled, but how an amp EQ generally reacts), and, as such, significantly changes the character of the distortion.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Where does it say that?

@picksalot1 2 ай бұрын

Really useful looking set of features and design that makes NAM a more viable option. Is there a "Noise Gate," and how is it implemented? Thanks

@stevenkambach 2 ай бұрын

There is! Treat it like an effect block. Just drag it on. I don't remember the specific adjustable settings it has

@learningforever957 5 ай бұрын

I tried it. Maybe it wasn't for me. I always wonder if there is a problem with my stratocaster that some amp sims just sound awful or is just that they are oriented to metal with guitars with more metal pickups D: The clean and crunch tones I got were Ok, but nothing great, to be honest. Again, it must be my guitar, but to this day I've found nothing that beats my Guitar Rig 5/6. I can get distort and clean sounds there that in my case totally kicks this. Also, I hate that it has iLok. And the CPU consumption is 2~3 times GR with a worse sound (IMHO). I decided to uninstall it. PS: Very nice video and very well explained, direct to the point!

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

There is definitely some room to grow for clean and crunch tones on amp sims. They do the heavy stuff well, but it is hard to compare to a nice amp in a room. I think from an audience perspective, it is usually close enough at this point, but from the players perspective it lacks something. Thank you ❤️

@benjoshd3386 5 ай бұрын

I have Guitar rig 5 as well , I tried many free/trial guitar effects software but they sounded bad and so much delay in real time. Guitar rig 5 still the best in my opinion ,the stock preset are already that good . I have Fender stratocaster Hss and I can even play metal tone with it😅

@learningforever957 5 ай бұрын

@@benjoshd3386I never had any delay issues with other softwares, but the feel when playing them never beat my experience with Guitar Rig. Is the closest feeling I had of playing on my real amp. Both the clean and distort sounds sound with so much depth compared to every amp sim I tried. I can also get lots of metal tones in my stratocaster. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one and that I'm not crazy :D

@serpentsbane9166 5 ай бұрын

Make sure to always set your Audio Interface input level / gain control all the way down. This is to get as accurate a response as possible from your amp sims. This is probably the reason why Metal guys seem to gravitate towards plugins and Clean / Classic Rock players seem to struggle to get good tones, because you are adding more gain before the amp sim than there would be if you were to plug your guitar straight in to the real amp, which masks the issue for us Metal guys as we generally go for more saturated distortion tones... Check out a video by Ed S called how to set optimal input levels for amp sim plugins to learn more. Hope this helps! \m/ @@learningforever957

@learningforever957 5 ай бұрын

@@serpentsbane9166It helps, thank you so much! You are totally right, I personally always forget to change the input signal, and is something crucial. Thank you so much for the sugestion friend! PS: The video is pretty good, much appreciated!

@tzmathew 4 ай бұрын

What's the latency (RTL) like ? What audio interface do you use ? What settings ( buffer size, sampling rate etc.) ?

@stevenkambach 4 ай бұрын

I haven't measured but It it is not noticeable. Interface is a behringer umc22 (basic USB 2.0) buffer size is 64 (I think) and sample rate is 44.1k (I think)

@tzmathew 4 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambach awesome. Thanks.

@stevenkambach 4 ай бұрын

@@tzmathew I got you 🙏

@tzmathew 4 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambach how do you find this in comparison to other free (NAM) and paid stuff (genome, n-dsp, bias etc.) ??

@vfxchris581 5 ай бұрын

Great video! What file do I put the NAM profiles in? I see there in ToneSnaps but I can't find the folder on my computer (Window's 11) lol

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I was confused at first as well! You actually have to drag the NAM files from their current folder into the plugin in that folder area 📂 does that make sense? I should probably make a video on just that tbh

@vfxchris581 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambach yes it makes sense! Thank you so much!

@yoadmaimon2007 4 ай бұрын

how did you import nam model in to it? and can you do a video on how to capture rig?

@stevenkambach 4 ай бұрын

You have to drag the NAM file from the folder into the folder in Tonocracy then drag into the chain. I won't make that video cause I've never done it! Sorry ❤️

@bloozerd 10 күн бұрын

Can third party Cab IR software be run inside this app...?

@stevenkambach 10 күн бұрын

You can load 3rd party IRs. If you are trying to run an IR plugin like MIKKO2 or something, you will have to load it after Tonocracy

@DopamineOverload 10 күн бұрын

Ok, 60 seconds ago I just discovered NAM and now, this. Should I go with Tonocracy instead? Looks a little easier to use, especially with the FX pedal stuff. Thx!

@stevenkambach 10 күн бұрын

Depends on you! I usually just load up NAM, but if you want the flexibility and extra features that Tonocracy provides, then use it. No wrong answers 👍

@DopamineOverload 10 күн бұрын

@@stevenkambach Nice!!

@stevenkambach 10 күн бұрын

👍

@md.mahfuz 21 күн бұрын

Love your video 💯. Subscribed immediately.

@stevenkambach 21 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@md.mahfuz 20 күн бұрын

@@stevenkambach You are welcome.

@arkavagoswami3068 5 ай бұрын

Awesome video.is there a gate fx in tonocracy?

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

There is a noise gate! I haven't tried it tho so I cannot tell you if it is good or not

@MreenalMams 5 ай бұрын

Does it also have amps/amp profiles on its own..? Or is it just a NAM profiles loader..?

@MreenalMams 5 ай бұрын

Got my answer at 5:28

@MreenalMams 5 ай бұрын

Please make a video going through the amps built into it

@tommyzai7038 5 ай бұрын

Steven, do you feel using NAM amps w/in Tonocracy is a better option than using NAM alone or using PatchWork, Mod.Audio, or other to set up a rig/chain? Are you using NAM itself w/in Tonocracy or one of NAM's .nam amp files?

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I don't think any one is better than the other. It all comes down to preference. NAM probably uses less CPU than all the others, but has less features. For recording I would probably use NAM and playing on my own or live I would use Tonocracy because of the effects. You just need the NAM files to run them in Tonocracy

@du2203 5 ай бұрын

'm not able to use TONOCRACY on abledon live. The DAW recognizes the plugin but the signal does not pass through tonocracy. Can anyone help?

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I have heard that it is quite buggy. I have not had issues in Reaper. You can try to reach out to support, but I haven't heard good things about that either. Good luck 👍

@Akerfeldtfan 3 ай бұрын

So, uh, what if I dragged over a hundred snaps and they landed in the wrong folder? Is there a way to delete them en masse? Because I sure can't find a way to do it lol

@stevenkambach 3 ай бұрын

I have no idea, dude. Dang. Sorry!

@GuilhermeSilva-ze5mk 5 ай бұрын

Is it possible to control tonocracy through midi commands?

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

At the moment, I do not think so. I have read some comments that say "no" but I have not checked myself

@gdevelek 5 ай бұрын

Tonocracy fails on my PC with a JSON error on its first ever run after installation, and as a consequence "My Library" shows up empty. It's not ready yet.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

It is pretty buggy I hear. I have mad no issues. Sorry 💔

@sunkoper8289 3 ай бұрын

Try to download again. I have same problem in first time.

@enxn_playsph7572 Ай бұрын

why is it delaying when i play

@stevenkambach Ай бұрын

Probably latency. Look up how to lower the latency in your specific DAW. You will most likely have to reduce your buffer size

@JonRayRunawayVealMusic 5 ай бұрын

…..UPDATE MY APOLOGIES!!!!! Support came through and everything is up. Sorry for being so impatient !!!! Thank you for listening to me gripe

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I have not heard great things about support. Sad.

@JonRayRunawayVealMusic 5 ай бұрын

Non existent is pretty bad ….hopefully nobody has any issues ever where they need help !

@JonRayRunawayVealMusic 5 ай бұрын

Support got back with me . I prob should have not spoken so harshly for at least a month ….I was getting quite frustrated though . …troubleshooting has begun …possibly not just a solitary issue …we will see …

@digitalchris6681 4 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambachyou can't expect decent support for a free product !

@DeineHeileOma 5 ай бұрын

Does anyone know about the minimum system requirements? Which MacOS?

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Website says MacOS 10.15 or later. I don't see anything about minimum system requirements

@DeineHeileOma 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! This Information I didn‘t found @@stevenkambach

@redkurn 5 ай бұрын

tonacracy better than nam? laughable, it's basically a nam frontend. let's be honest here, they tried to profit from open source and likely ran into a license issue and that's why this low grade software is now free, but still requires ilok to be at least installed. if i were still a beginner it would be kind of cool, but helix native crushes this hot mess.

@InTheSh8 5 ай бұрын

The SchemeAccurate models are phenomenal!

@johndo9648 3 ай бұрын

You're talking like a Nam fanboy. You clearly put zero time in tonocracy.

@steveweilhart2359 5 ай бұрын

cool

@07dhiraj 5 ай бұрын

Gate is not there ? 🤔🤔

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

It is there! I just did not use it. My bad

@rickard9294 5 ай бұрын

Paraphrasing: "Still obnoxious but you can do Korn with it"... :D

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄

@69ssrscamaro4 5 ай бұрын

Tonocracy and Neural Amp Modeler is about to destroy the amp modeling industry profits.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Let's go 🔥

@MrLotnique 5 ай бұрын

you need a noise gate!

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I do! There is one in there I just didn't use it. My bad

@assshakerstudios549 5 ай бұрын

Hey man...For future videos, can you use a gate/RX on your voice and process it to reduce the background noise? There's a LOT of background noise going on, and it's hard to check out the video without being consumed by that noise! I certainly appreciate the video though.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I will try, but it is the nature of the room I shoot in. Surrounded by motorized cameras and such. Ill see if a gate will work

@RemcoJvGrevenbroek 5 ай бұрын

Lot of noise is from the "amp"

@ric8248 2 ай бұрын

6:31 but you do have a Sync button on the top right 🤣

@stevenkambach 2 ай бұрын

Is there? Lol my bad

@TolisKarapPlanB 5 ай бұрын

Well daeemn

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

Right?!?!

@TolisKarapPlanB 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambach Thank you so much for this video bro! Yeap! Daemnnn

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

@@TolisKarapPlanB I got you fam

@eddiegrabowski4797 5 ай бұрын

The sound of silence is what's missing...

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

There is a noise gate, I just didn't use it here

@MreenalMams 5 ай бұрын

Hello darkness my old friend

@iursnitram 5 ай бұрын

PACE iLok... no thanks

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

I don't think it needs that. I didn't do ilok.

@iursnitram 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambach You did but didn't notice.

@SonicOasis 5 ай бұрын

@@stevenkambachWhen I first tried to open it would not work without downloading the ilok app. I know some on NAM facebook page say they did not have to while others like myself say otherwise, but I do not see a way around it on my computer. Hard pass until they remove it for all. Thanks for your video.

@unstablesun8179 5 ай бұрын

Yes, there is a step to install PACE which installs iLok. not good! I stopped the install. I'm pretty happy with Neural Amp Modeler though.

@explainlight 5 ай бұрын

I installed today...win 10, I didn't get any prompts for ilok. Working fine!

@mediaanarchy-captaino8961 2 ай бұрын

50,000 amps and no effects 🤣 i cant find effects just reverb and delay which comes standard on an amp 🤦 guess i gotta buy a damn boss now 🤘😛🤘

@stevenkambach 2 ай бұрын

You can't profile time based effects, you have to model them. Check out Tonocracy. Free plugin, has effects and can load NAM profiles. Best of both worlds

@comboart4610 5 ай бұрын

Noise gate ????😅

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

There is one! I use it on occasion lol

@JJ-mp7rg 4 ай бұрын

Noise gate

@stevenkambach 4 ай бұрын

I'll use it in a follow up video

@babyblue4824 5 ай бұрын

Lol. Did u guys patch up finally 😅?

@aaronguilford8876 5 ай бұрын

Compared it with my peavy 6505+ and NAM, no dice, amp sims still a waste of tone, I can pick those things as soon as I hear them unless they are doubled up super distorted with drums smashing all over the place.

@stevenkambach 5 ай бұрын

You do you ❤️

@OfficialFatLip 4 ай бұрын

Better the amplitube and tonnex combined

@stevenkambach 4 ай бұрын

I think both of those have their place and are great, but I much prefer NAM. I honestly cannot open Tonex or Amplitube without crashing so I don't even bother anymore