Exactly right

Plenty of floods not long ago. Condensation slowly corroding away at the electrics.

I’d never considered that but you are totally correct. I shall remember your line.

Many luxury brands loose their value due to depreciation because they are "money pits", expensive to maintain when something breaks. Buyer beware as EVs are no different.

Brillant 👌👌👍👍💯💯

Id take a free one. I could build 4 fixed wing drones with the motors.

The cornflakes would be more valuable.

I just want the cornflakes from this deal 😂

@@aaronbryan5095 I love corn flakes. I haven't had them in a long time. I wish I had some right now.

Ahh if you want comedy come here for a laugh a minute, then again maybe not.

that's what ev stands for ewaste vehicle.

Spot on agree with you both just rubbish that's hard to get rid of.

Extremely trendy tho and attention gathering.(major selling point)

My ev is on 423,000 miles

Whatever I enjoy driving for free

How?

Funny, I harvest lithium cells from our local recycling centre, I've been building packs for many years (and machines that use them) totalling almost ten thousand cells for a variety of applications and the prices I pay for packs that yield a worthwhile gamble on used cells is around AU 10-15 cents per cell. The final test pass rate increases that cost to around 20 cents as about half the cells are useless (dead) and I grade them into four application categories. The best cells that retain over 80% of their capacity constitute only about 5% of the total number harvested, most of those that pass testing have degraded to between 60-80% of their original capacity. My sources are mostly from laptop batteries, cordless tools like vacuum cleaners and other power tools. Very few of these are more than 6 years old and will have had much less frequent use than any EV, so I would never ever buy a used EV for anything more than it's scrap value. The battery failure cost is really only a minor part of the failure risk. Even worse are electronic system failures, everything from the touch screen interface to BMS, ESC's and charge controllers, BCM, regen controllers, steering systems, hvac, driver assist systems... they are all built as cheap throwaway garbage that cannot be repaired and require only authorised specialist (licensed) stealers to work on. As these parts become obsolete overnight after a model run passes the warranty period, any failure beyond that point almost guarantees the vehicle will be scrapped with even minor failures. This is part of the grand plan, ideally they want to churn new cars at a much higher rate in order to generate more revenue for industry and government, at the end users expense.

@@alasdair4161 Thanks for posting, the truth is finally coming out.

@@Audioremedy0785 because it relies on a used battery. you know how many connections are in an EV battery pack? obviously not.

​@@alasdair4161Ever made a battery pack for an electric skateboard?18650 batteries grouped into cells,with varying numbers of cells to form the battery.Just curious,I never managed to get my head around it.

Can I be put on this list too ? As I want no part of this GOVT Adjenda at forcing control (normally would not say stuch stupid conspiracy type B.S.) but the more the sleeping public looks into this in America. It's Not GOOD. For anyone but the Govt !

That government subsidy, which financially rewards compliance and punishes dissent, is being used to push the masses out of their cars and into mass transit, by sinuously driving up costs for everyone, especially poor and ordinary consumers. Poor people should _never_ be forced to pay more for everything so that novelty (EV) transportation is more affordable for the wealthy.

I have no desire to pay for your gas either but here we are...

@@Luka_3D Don't worry, Einstein, you're not. However, poor folks are forced to help lower the cost of EVs through several agency-created laws to reduce the MSRPs of EVs, and ensure profits for the EV industry. And here in the USA, the federal and state governments generate far more tax revenue from the sale of each gallon of gasoline than oil companies profit. And we're all stuck paying taxes to subsidize all sorts of electrical power generation, even through conventional means. All of this at the behest of the greatest contextual fraud of the age, "climate change".

@@Luka_3D and you dont. The so called corperate welfare you are talking about are TAX BREAKS, not money given to big oil.

Lol... Getting burned, monetarily and iterally...

Do you mean financially or getting incinerates.

Fire sale 🤣😂😅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

You will never, ever be involved in an EV fire. You are 50 times more likely to have a fire driving a hybrid and 20 times more likely in a petrol car. The facts are clear on this.

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 "The facts are clear on this." You didn't get your "facts" from that article The NYT ran for which they had to issue a retraction, did you? No government agency keeps track of car fires by fuel type.

yep. terrifying.

clever

Russian roulette to clear out the gene pool.

Yeah I suppose ice cars have never caught fire wait a minute in the uk they have totally destroyed two car parks .

​@@stuartodell2828Luton Airport fire was a EV. Just covered up.

even worse a disposable nappy that could self combust at any moment!

The EV is more shit than the nappy

Same as politicians and for the same reason.

Ev battaries expencive to make expensive recycle, dangerous to recycle very unstable at that stage.

What virtue am I supposedly signalling? Being smart enough to save hubdreds per month on gas?

@@TroySavary What you spent extra on your car buys me 250,000 miles plus of fuel. Plus your depreciation. Which of us was saving money again?

@@TroySavary I think you're a little lost there Troy, let me help you out. The Electric Viking is that way >>>>>>>>

@@TroySavary so your ev runs on stored electrons inside its battery... but what created those electrons? Also, why is it that every time we see an ev stuck on a highway, they always send out an internal combustion engine generator to charge it up? Weird!

@@WotchTheWerldBern My electrons are come from wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear. It's cute you muppets think that question is a gotcha. I bet mommy thinks you are smart, though. I wouldn't know what comes to rescue an EV. I can read a charge gauge well enough to not be in that situation. Does getting stranded happen often to you?

Don't forget LPG. Now finding LPG service stations is like finding EV chargers. Another government waste of money

I didn't fall for it that time either

No never been a fan of either of them

It's a very predictable tactic. They pushed people towards diesel on the basis of economy/cost and, believe it or not, environmental benefits over petrol. As soon as enough mugs adopted them the duty on diesel was raised, erasing any fuel cost savings at a stroke. Then the legislation began, emissions in particular, making the cost of manufacture and maintenance even higher as the fuel systems had to become ever more complex. I didn't fall for it then and I'm certainly not going to fall for the obvious EV fraud either. All EV's are designed to do is destroy the automobile industry and force us out of our cars. They want us to return to feudalism, life in digitally controlled open prison for those who survive the depopulation agenda, that is.

Yes, and try to recycle them.

Not true. People fear change. And they are more expensive. Well were. It's like no one here understands the lifestyle of new technology.

@@Thargelios And yet the model T rocked the world without mandates. your arguement is flawed.

Like the end of the film Soylent Green.... gentle music and green fields on the car's iPad play you out of this life....

Ooof 😆 Savage… but fair!! 🔥

@@Symptomless_Coma_ Nice reference. Old School Charlton Heston : - ) I see the connection, like gas cars EV's need electricity to be made. Only with EV's they keep sucking up Electricity which comes from our Grid and as such NOT CLEAN ! Feeding Cole Powered Electricity into a EV is like cannabolism ! Awsome.

How much do they charge for removal costs? Cheaper than Dignitas?

I would be amazed if an EV will last ten years, once the battery pack is dead, that EV is scrap.

Ten years is a bum deal . So they gotta mine for more material to build another or at least consume heaps of energy for recycling still .

10 year old EVs are still going strong.

@@TroySavary We have some petrol cars 90 years old going strong. Not going to see that with battery cars.

@@lesliewelch6551 well it’s not is it. The battery pack lasts for about 12-15 years. And once that’s done you can just buy a new one and the car is as good as new?

They are not advertising on the channel as such. They purchase generic advertising space from KZfaq and then KZfaq decides where their adverts are inserted. You could say this if mguy put them in the actual video but he’s not

Oh the irony 😅

Gives me a giggle every time

Like the Polestar 2 ad I got before watching this loudly proclaiming ‘up to $10,000 off’ as if on cue.

@@unnamedchannel1237 exactly google bots are idiots

Basically almost every 1st world country elitists' way of doing things

hahaha gold

Dont forget the purification and extraction of Rare Earths, necessary for all parts of the "transition to renewables" (including but not limited to EVs). This is one of THE dirtiest industrial processes. We wont do that in our country, will we? We'll offshore that, too.

Inertility and infant mortality are a positive sude effect ! Too many human beings with too much needs znd growing. Demograohy is the real problem ! We need more planets or ...

One big difference is that the cars in Cuba are from an era when any garage mechanic could fix a lot of stuff on the car, namely electrical

Not if you factor in much lower running and maintenance costs

@@dps615 tyre wear on EV’s appalling. Public charging not only time consuming but expensive. Repairs astronomical. Insurance expensive. And so on and so on.

Not all cars. See how much a Range Rover is worth after five years

This would make perfect sense if any of it was true. As ice vehicles don’t retain their value and EVs values don’t plummet. If I’m being honest, you just sound like an idiot.

@@dps615 Running costs are higher due to the price of the electricity. Most of the cost are depreciation (BEVs are more expensive), fuel (ICE is cheaper) and insurance (BEVs are more expensive due to the cost).

*Note To Self*: Become a politician to receive a free ev.

laptop with wheels

@@victorgrech1136 With way more bugs than a "AAA" game!

The difference between a washing machine and an EV, is that washing machines don't have jet flames and noxious fumes coming out of them.

With vision that poor, you should not be driving anyway.

​@@matthewgodwin3050washing machine's are useful!

Ow come on, there's gotta be even more disadvantages than that! Think harder!

Honestly posts like this are embarrassing. I get it that you guys are super threatened by the constant rise of EVs. But you all sound like total idiots. When you all start talking about fire risk you totally lose any credibility.

Two advantages here in Australia. 1. It WILL reduce the amount of air pollution (not CO2, which is not a pollutant) in the cities. 2. It will reduce our dependence on foreign oil. In fact they are the ONLY two benefits. That said, some people consider that that is enough.

@@starpawsy they are much cheaper to run. They are much nicer to drive. Plus reducing air pollution is not a singular benefit. It will impact alot of things.

The biggest advantage is not paying £1.50 a litre to fill it up and maintenance for a fraction of the cost of ice cars.

Get Premium; worth it for zero adverts

I haven't watched videos in over 5 years and I don't have premium.

@@frenchenstein OR JUST USE ANY BROWSER WIT AN ADBLOCKER

Just an addition, not worried about the ads, I was amused that when I watch MGUY being unkind to EV's all the ads are about EV's!

@@iangill8984 I get it. You can't get around them on the app, but you can on the mobile site.

Well said

Scrap yards do it all the time. Took a bunch of batteries down to the recyclers recently - got $50 for them.

You're not really buying batteries. You're buying a one way ticket to a fiery death 🔥🔥🔥

​@@matthewgodwin3050source? Or just made up facts. And no. Showing a few ev fires does not equate to them all going up in flames.

@@Thargelios You know as well as I do that Teslas have a serious fire problem. Why the denial? Don't you want your Tesla to be safe? Tesla owners should be petitioning Elon to do a recall, and not trolling people online with nonsense. It's time you all grew up and started acting like grown-ups.

They will be soon, eventually people will be giving them away free.

Facts. I think the article is misleading. They can't compare sub 5 year ice cars that still retain most of their value vs a figurative paper weights that's value goes down faster than the 304 on the corner and expect me not to notice LOL

@@lesliewelch6551 buy my EV , just $750 (dont look that it needs a new $60,000 battery)

Yeah that’s not true. But great story though!

@@Audioremedy0785 If you'd bothered to do some research, you'd know that what Dan said is 100% correct.

@@matthewgodwin3050 I have an ice an an EV that are both 4 years old. The value difference between the two that were both £42k 4 hears ago is £500. And the EV has done 30% more miles. I’ve cars are not losing 25% of their value after 4 years. It’s more like 30-40%. And an Ev is losing 40-45%. But they are exponentially cheaper to run.

@@Audioremedy0785 Everything you say about EVs in KZfaq comment sections is provably untrue. So I don't believe a word you say. You're probably not even a real person, just a tiresome bot.

@@Audioremedy0785 You can believe it or not, it's your problem. I checked a month ago when my wife's car needed a new clutch and checked again this morning before posting hence why I am confident in what I have posted. To cut to the chase, for the make and model my wife drives new EV: 32k, new ICE: 20k. 4 year old EV: 15k, 4 year old ICE: 15k. Average EV mileage: 10-12k with some as low as 6k, average ICE mileage: 20-24k. I concede one point: it's anecdotal evidence, but I'm not going to spend hours on to check all the makes and models on the market, just do what's needed to make my wife happy enough.

What tablets are you on?

Vapes dont self ignite like evs do .

@glennayers8073 yes they do.. check the news

And there you have it, the market value a 2 year old EV is about the same as a replacement battery cost in many cases, obviously a massive risk buying without a cast iron warranty, beware the small print I say, the phrase “ provided the vehicle has been operated according to recommendations” … that probably means charging to between 20 and 80% at all times and of course the charging record is held on the manufacturer database, no hiding it.

​@@mellarner8253based on what facts? New batteries are modular. A dead cell means a part of the battery can be replaced. Or did you think it's one giant single cell battery?

@@Thargelios no , there are thousands and it is generally not recommended by manufacturers to replace a single cell in the same way you should replace all cells when you change batteries in any other device

@@mellarner8253 The batteries are in modules. And yes the are now made for modules to be replaced. You're not replacing individual cells. Confirmed by the manufacturer when asked what happens if there's an issue with part of the battery. Well at least Polestars are designed this way.

@@Thargelios Wrong, NO CURRENNT EV battery is reparable. "modular" means they can build as small or as big as they want ( like chryslers "modular engine that can be made in v6,v8,v10,v12 etc. but once its built it cant be changed.)

But Elon said that Teslas are an appreciating asset, not a depreciating asset. And he's NEVER wrong.

If you could retrieve the lunar rover I'm sure someone would pay handsomely for it and that's older than 20 years.

How many people buy cars to ‘upgrade’ them. Not many.

It is a must though. EVs are a terrible value (even before you count depreciation). The rule should always be: replace old tech with new tech that is equal to or better than the old tech that you are replacing. If you dig below the surface, you find out that EVs are terrible in so many ways. There are very smart people who missed this point or knew all along and were lying to us. We need honesty and objectivity otherwise you will cry wolf too many times.

@@user-mg4gw8mi6z do you have any understanding of EVs? You realise they are exponentially cheaper to run than IcE right? And that the deprecation is a few % more. It’s hardly masssive.

If you are needing to waste any time then you’re just not doing it right. Or making it up like most of the people in the comments here. I have an EV and spend far less time messing around than I do in my diesel.

​@@Audioremedy0785So you still need the diesel? Got it.

@@Audioremedy0785 To be fair, lack of reliable infrastructure does often lead to a lot of wasted time. I can't count the number of times I had to help someone get a charger working. The fact that we can't get around with googlepay is absolutely inexcusable.

They don't make Australian Falcons anymore . It's now a sort after classic.

@@winstonsmith7801 yep and so many AUs were destroyed as burnout pigs that there are even less. I will never sell it but should stop daily driving it in a year or so probably.

According to Yorak Hunt’s KZfaq channel, the AU Falcon is the finest car ever made. So hardly surprising that the V8 AU’s second hand value is increasing. You have a slice of fried gold there my friend.

​@@bruiser6479 All hail the great prophet

A marxist pushing marxism. Not difficult to see nor understand.

How do you know he is lying? (his mouth is moving)

For those who wish to Burn Your Driveway!!!

And really what Chinese Electronics last more than 6 years anyway it's a f****** joke

They'll never be cheap here.

@@batmanlives6456 (B)urn (Y)ou (D)own is what I call them.

Cheap Chinese shite. Nobody will buy them.

Support Toyota and buy a new one.

@@noelgibson5956 THINK OF THE POOR MEGA CORP! A fool and his money... Go away stan.

There are a bunch of over 100+ year old evs whos price has increased substantially due to their age if you really want to nitpick

@@Luka_3D no if you want to nit pick, youd point out the RAV4 is only 30 years old NOT 100

Look forward to you walking everywhere.. oh right. Platitude that you won't follow through with when the time comes. Right?

What about other alternative fuel sources? Biofuel and hydrogen? Would you consider a Mirai if the infrastructure was better?

@@Thargelios wow you can be arrogant when backed by Big Brother GUBMENT

I remember hearing (maybe on this channel) about EV buses being put (shoehorned) into service in some places and almost universally being out for repairs much, much more than normal buses. (Diesel/hybrid I guess).

I am expecting that will the case.

Unlikely. Since most of the materials in the battery are recyclable and can be reused. But hey, nice making made up facts based on... nothing

10 year old leaf batteries still go for 5k so I'd say you can make some money salvaging materials from them

@@Luka_3D Of course you can, but it's easier to just say they all end up in land fill because of FUD.

@@Thargelios total lies there is , currently, no way to recycle an EV battery.

That's grim!

You say ‘it’s over’, you know that EVs are still absolutely smashing sales targets right? After 2 record breaking years, they are knocking it out the park. The only thing that’s ’over’ is the dominance of gas cars.

I’m interested to know on what basis you are judging this. I have a £40k Tesla and a 40k bmw 3 series. I had them both valued recently and the Tesla is worth 26k and the bmw (which has done way less miles) is worth £26.5k. The Tesla costs me £1800 a year less to run than the BMW. How does that equate to financial suicide?

@@Audioremedy0785 you can buy a Dacia Sandero and it will have more range than the cheapest Tesla. Plus the gasoline is also cheaper than the electricity for the same distance.

@@svr5423 so how much does gasoline costs to get you 600 miles?

@@Audioremedy0785 you can look up the prices for gasoline online. Same for most DC chargers.

NONSENSE, I bought a Mini Cooper Electric 4 years ago, to replace my Mini Cooper Petrol, so far in fuel savings and Central London Congestion Zone charge, savings over 4 years, (compared to running my old Mini Cooper Petrol) it has saved me, about £8,000,

Yeah Americas charging infrastructure is way too unreliable. If your car has access to the Supercharger though then it is pretty comparable as long as your destination is not something like Alaska.

Still less than gas lol

I would happily buy a second hand phone that had an 8 year warentee.

I'd hapily buy a used phone but tech is just moving at light speed right now so unless you find a good deal, it doesn't really make sense. EVs though? I'm eying a used Model S from 2012

@@Luka_3D a 5 year old Tesla is still fantastic and is able to do 90% of what a brand new one is. The beauty of software updates.

@@Luka_3D a 5 year old Tesla is still fantastic and is able to do 90% of what a brand new one is. The beauty of software updates.

@@Audioremedy0785 Yeah and I just adore the look of the early teslas. The front nose, more buttons,... Mobileye autopilot is a bit out of date though ngl

It's funnier when you see the drivers sitting in their cars, waiting for it to charge. How many hours of their life are they going to spend doing that?

@@JohnSmith-ux3tt I'd say they already waste their lives just phone swiping anyway so it matters not to them.

Yes that happens. The ICE has well over 100 years head start and our understanding of the tech is very good. There are two factors that affect the life of an ICE: design flaws and natural wear and tear. Engine tech is more complicated these days but the basics still apply. If you faithfully maintain an ICE it has the potential to last for a very long time. In your example: I presume that it was a blown head gasket. What caused it? Design flaw or engine overheat. Engine overheat because the fluids were allowed to get too low -- oil and coolant. Change your oil and check your coolant frequently!

@user-mg4gw8mi6z in my example, it is known to have been a leaking water hose, what the KZfaqr did not know is why the driver did not stop immediately the engine got hot! The damage was severe over heating on the center cylinder both sides of the V6 engine. Blowen head gasket and damage to the top of the cylinder block, but could be fixed by skimming the top face to get it flat again. He will make more money selling the individual parts than selling it reassembled as a recon!

They do salvage parts. Look up Rich Rebuilds. He started a whole buisness repairing evs and salvaging parts.

@@Luka_3D 1 WHOLE MAN RECYCLES EVS??? we are SAVED.

And not a moments thought about range anxiety, just enjoying the drive.

Went on a similar joy ride yesterday into the mountains. Stopped at a resort with chargers for dinner, 15 minutes later, set off with 60% and when I got home I was at 80% due to the regen. All in all the trip was around 500 km

What's your opinion on the Hyundai Ioniq 5 n?

We could still crash into one and need to pay more unless it's one of those no fault states.

We could still crash into one and need to pay more unless it's one of those no fault states.

@TheBagOfHolding it's a completely different cost set. Just like HGV,s, motorcycles, helicopters. Why should ICE car owners be charged with the burden of these new vehicles. It has to be addressed. I'm sick of all these increases in premiums every year, with no reason behind it.

wrong, Insurance is ALL tied together. notice the next time a huge hurricane hits , then a month or so later your auto insurance surges.

@@maddhatter3564 then there needs to be a call for this not to happen. They should have their own databases

You might as well drive a Flintstone car instead lol

@@aaronbryan5095 a golf cart

An EV will save you a fortune in fuel costs.

@Audioremedy0785 maybe, but the depriciation on an EV, plus where to charge it (no driveway) means that we will keep the Fiesta running for as long as possible - at 12 years old it has little depreciation remaining, it is cheap to ensure (£150 per year fully comp) and I truly belive that e-fuels are part of the vehicle future too.

@@theonlywoody2shoes an EV can’t feasably be compared to that car. But if you are replacing it then they are worth considering. The depreciation thing is a total myth. When you look into it there is about 3-5% in it.

In most cases the battery outlasts the car. Just sayin

@@Luka_3D yeah. They don’t care about this though. They just like to make things up to make them sound bad.

You're delusional if you think planned obsolescence in the car market started with evs 😂

@@Luka_3D No delusion here, just stating they didn't have to work for it.

@@Grumpy_Stiltskin I think that's just any new technology. They use any excuse to make stuff hard to repair until consumers have enough and force them to make it repairable.

I’m assuming this is some kind of trolling comment to get attention because you know that EVs are literally smashing sales records constantly.

I bough one. I guess I don't exist lmao

And I’ve sold 2. I don’t exist either.

They are the same iPhones in that they are revolutionary and smashing sales records out the park.

​@@Audioremedy0785lol keep replying to every comment bot 😂

Completely feasible that could happen.

You are what is known as ‘mentally ill’

Sensor ship is making it impossible to give negative feedback

If you give accurate information about EV fires and the collapse in EV sales, your comment very quickly disappears into the ether. Proving that you are right.

You can check the health of a battery. All evs let you monitor individual cell voltages. If the voltages are out of balanced, you know the battery is crap. Other than that, the car is much simpler since there's no multi speed transimission, clutch or engine.

Looks OK to me.

Might of been the sun , just remembered he has a car with no roof.

Agree, definitly more red.

I feel sympathy and empathy for our country, low income earners are suffering to survive, and I appreciate Wayne. You've helped my family with your advice. imagine investing $30,000 and receiving $95,460 after 28 days of trading.

I'm in a similar situation where should I look to increase income? Do you have any advice? What did you do ? Thank you

Well I engage in nice side hustles like inves'ting, and the good thing is I do it with one one of the best(Michael Wayne), he's really good!

Did someone just mention Mr Wayne!? Damn! You just made my day; what a coincidence.. I've worked with him for over 2years and I can tell how good he is

It's great to see you guys talking about Michael Wayne, This man changed the game for me. Good Man ❤️

It's winter and it's been raining in Sydney. The UV is very low. We live here mate, so don't tell us how the Sun works.

well done! I keep trying and failing miserably! LOL

You can make money on selling batteries lol A 10 year old leaf pack still goes for 5 grand

Why? What's so environmentally damaging about taking out the battery and putting it to use in grid storage lol