Agreed, the sleeping bit had me cracking up

i think the oblivion background music really added to the experience oblivion for me had one of the best ambience soundtrack ever

@@simple-human-being 100% I loved this! The information was greatly appreciated.

I love that odgrub lives in different bethesda games at the same time

They could have added a loading screen when you pass the edge quite easily, but I think they had already consumed their loading screen budget

​@@artemisDevI think the true barrier was the procedurally generated shrubbery and clutter.

@@artemisDevIt is all about priority. In the end connecting the entire planet would be a fun gimmick but not much more. The areas are already big and the resources were used for something else.

somebody make a mod with hl2 loading screens between zones

Missed out on what? No one would go around walking through multiple tiles except for some youtuber trying to be the first to do it

Please share which moon!

​@@2kliksphilip I cant remember exactly, but it was typical icy moon orbiting yellow gas giant without rings, the gas giant was actually gigantic in skybox, so it worth finding at least for scenery You could observe similar effect on other smaller moons. Try Ophion 1-a (level 45, middle of star map), as far as i remember that one was kinda small and i saw one exact outpost from different landing location when looking for cool shot of insanely huge gas giant on the horizon

Update: it might be Zelazny 8-A, but im not sure

Update 2: its not Zelazny 8-A, sorry guys. But yeah, there is definitely are smaller moons where tiles are big relatively to planets surface, i just cant remember them right now, havent touched game in 3 weeks

@@Reitaliation I dont remember the moon I was on, but the gas giant it was orbiting almost took up the WHOLE sky, and it kept getting bigger, and then suddenly disappeared haha

They actually do. There are smaller moon in this game where one landmark can be seen from many landing points, meaning one landing point can cover a relatively big percentage of planets radius

I wonder if the generated areas actually "wrap" the planet properly, or if there are weirdnesses like with map projections. I bet it's the latter. Might be interesting to try this experiment near the poles and then again at the equator to see how the distances on-surface relate to the planet overview.

But overall, it looks like at least some portion of the team at Bethesda was trying to make the planet surfaces fully seamless, but that effort got cut short for one reason or another. I bet we'll learn a lot when the modding tools come out and we can look at how things are structured in the engine.

I remember the early leaks said they didn't connect, I'm glad this isn't the case although we won't be able to appreciate it unless modders do their thing

@@KepleroGT seeing that they actually do have some kind of seamless support, they might unlock planets in a future dlc. Might have just been cut content from the main release.

Yess! It's a pet peeve of mine when planets in media are interchangeable with, like, countries

But it's still kinda dumb planets in starbound are more interesting to explore than in starfield lol

@@forgettd Honestly they should've just kept it how it is now, but stripped it down to 20-30 smaller planets with more hand-crafted areas.

​@@forgettd thats a good one 😂😂😂...... Starbound that 90s looking ass game..... ya right, i dont get this stupid hate..... i mean yes the pois get repeated, but everyone shilled elden rings exploration when its pois repeat every 2 minutes 😂😂..... but we hate Starfield, honestly these ponies have really brainwashed all your little hater minds by keeping on saying the game is bad..... regardless of how much they try, you try to hate, the game is the most played of 2023, and its not even an mmo

@@trissmerigold7722 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n6-ff7xkurzGmWQ.html

@@2kliksphilip your channel is the main reason i got into total war, so thank you klikphillips for sharing ur hobbies with us :3

Better job at making we want to play the game than playing the game did as well. Except then i realise that i did play the game and there are tons of reasons not to.

@@fartloudYT as someone who hasn't played the game yet, what do you think of the plot and story? ik bethesda isn't usually known for their great stories

@@CropDudia480p its mid

@@CropDudia480p if u have played previous bethesda games ,you will like it

Thats what I was going to say, if its just one big cell next to other ones, why can't they just add the option to load into the next adjoining cell when you reach a border?

@@silentReaper1220 that’s something their previous games do already. It’s not like all of Skyrim is loaded at once. Their overworlds are a bunch of exterior cells stitched together

@@silentReaper1220 @Delta56100 its not so easy. TLDR computers struggle with big numbers. and the way the starfeild engine is programmed causes something known as floating point error where all the huge numbers get corrupted when being processed in the CPU / gpu. if you try to make the level too large you will encounter extreme jitter and physics glitches as well as deformed models that vibrate . EVERY engine struggles with this . however they do special tricks to prevent you from noticing. like moving the entire world around you instead of moving you in the world which prevents having to calculate all of those massive numbers for physics and graphics. in CSGO and halflife they do the 3D sky box thing to fix it.

@@ali32bit42 its not just the way its programmed,floating point errors always happen with games that use floating point numbers,its just inevitible with the way computers process those numbers

@@Damian-cilr2 thats what i said. you cant fix hardware so developers work around it with programming tricks. like moving the entire world around you instead of moving your player model

Imagine games you didn't have to mod to not be disappointed in 😅

@@SoggyMicrowaveNugget Imagine playing games that can't be enhanced in every possible way by the community

@@Romkar nah this should of been a built in feature

​@@Waffleman00agreed. The fact that it can be modded is great. The fact that it HAS to be is embarrassing

​​@@RomkarI agree that it's good that game should have the *ability* for players to mod it to be better, but that doesn't mean it should be something that's *required* for the game to be good. Take Doom for example. One of the most modded games of all time, but that didn't mean the original game was bad

Probably! Modders are finding out about a lot of systems that got taken out or didnt get polished enough to get added to the game. For example, there's a fully (slightly glitch) script to call your ship to your location on the planets surface also the ability to place ladders manually in the ship builder

​@@---__-_---___shows how little effort they put in

@@jacobp8294 The devs put the effort in, but didn't finalize the effort. This is true in any game that's made. Lots of half completed cool ideas that cant make it in the timeframe or budget

@@---__-_---___ then their timeline must have been incredibly strict with a limited budget. The game is half-baked with simple features like calling your ship left incomplete. 'you see I wrote the whole book, but the last half is blank because I wasn't satisfied with my revisions'

Bethesda is about 1/5 the size of a modern AAA game dev, they also have one of the longest retention rates in an industry notorious for quick turnover. Most of their employees have been around since Morrowind, Oblivion, and many of the Daggerfall devs still work there. By all measures it's a good place to work and the devs do good work, and have a pretty much bottomless bank account but they're still small. The fact that they made this game with a team of their size is a wonder.

definitely*

@@LLPTV lmao thank you

@@LLPTVKZfaq police are back

​@@Spealer, is*

@@spiderjerusalem8505 you are wrong: the word "police" here refers to the collective body of officers or the organization itself, so it should be used with the plural verb "are"

It is truly an amazing ability he has

I wont. he sucks

If it's a detail some of us might notice, as I did in my first (and only before kit-made mods) playthrough, then it matters.

It's not actually more work to do it this way though. All such types of procedural generation are deterministic, so as long as you pass in the same starting parameters (seed) you get the same result. For a planet in Starfield you assume the seed is the coordinate you land on, and thus you'll always get a consistent and deterministic planet surface back whether you land in the same spot over and over or in neighboring spots.

Oh, that sound interesting!

@@2kliksphilip yes, I'm pretty confident about it. Go to the Starfield nexus mod page of "Remove Planetary Tile Boundary" and check out the post section. In there, a lot of modders ran experiments and shared their findings regarding this topic/issue and discovered why the game crashes when you go too far beyond the invisible boundary.

A shame the rest of the game is still trash, had a storm on a planet that didn't looked great. The game itself also doesn't look that next gen yet gave me 60 FPS on a 4090 during said storm despite it not being that heavy on effects. Mirrors dont even have reflections, basic tech is missing that we had over 10 years ago. They couldn't even be bothered to make a map for the cities or areas you're in so you just follow arrow after arrow. No roleplay left in this one You cant even swimm underwater...

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Surprisingly if you no clip below water, you start drowning so they probably had plans to add it but scrapped it at the end.

@@konoshox small indie company after all

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi That's a shame about the swimming, everytime I buy a new game I always head straight for the water to go for a dip. Swimming is my number one concern in games. Gameplay loop? Balance? World building and design? Story, both plot and the themes that drive people to keep playing? No thanks, for me it's all about the 500m freestyle. Gotta go for a dunk. Mario vs Sonic at the Olympic Games is the greatest game of all time due to its robust swimming mechanics

@@motboy8 Its the sum of issues and design failures while the game proclaims to be next gen or an "improvement" its a newer game yet the essentials aren't there. Of course you can make it all sound silly if you need copium xD

The problem here is not compactness, as the map is hopefully finite in size (i.e. it's bounded, and we might as well assume it's a closed subset of the plane). The problem is that the map is flat (i.e. has zero curvature), but it's trying to be a map of a globe (which has positive curvature). But by the Theorema Egregium, (Gaussian) curvature is preserved under local isometries -- so such a map cannot be a local isometry, i.e. it must warp distances.

Yes you're right, I realised after my comment but I hoped nobody would know enough to notice

Yeah but to be fair, no amount of improved technical execution is going to make the story or characters any good. Even if the ai was perfect, the area transitions were streamed/seamless and the animation wasn't janky af, the game would still be ass.

@@charlespockert8948 I don’t agree at all. The segmentation of the world is my only major gripe.

@@Emperorhirohito19272 you are ok with the terrible repetitive main quest with the floaty mini game? The dumb bipolar character writing, poor dialog, fast travel fetch quest soup, barren environments, weak combat... I could go on. The game is a shadow of previous Bethesda games (well, some of them) and yet still hasn't evolved in tech or gameplay since morrowind...

@@charlespockert8948 I haven’t gotten far in the main quest, so far is seems just as serviceable as the previous games. Idk what you want the ship to feel like exactly, it works like any other spaceship in any other game. The power allocation and advanced targeting add a bit of extra interest. Writing is fine, nothing to write home about. I already expressed my issue with the segmentation, which leads to all the fast travelling idk why you’re bringing it up as a point against me. The environments, specifically the procedural planet surfaces not the hand made stuff, are as barren as they should be. Again, the problem is the content is hundreds of metres apart and you just have to hold w for a couple minutes to get between them, if you could hop in your ship and zoom there in a few seconds it would be fine. Then the surface could just do its real job of being resource gathering zones where you scan stuff to see what you can harvest then build a little outpost to do it, a gameplay loop I enjoy.

You can see places you can't go in Skyrim, the red mountain and white gold tower being two examples. Also good to note that this "little instanced box" is about the size of Skyrim.

Modders will. The limitations are almost certainly in place due to console limitations, as always. Cities in skyrim had loading screens but opencities proved that to be entirely unnecessary. If the regions connect, modders will enable you to run around them seamlessly. When that happens, I hope other modders will make mods for that version of the game. The true version of the game.

@@NorthernWhisper Open cities is and has always been buggy as hell though, console limitations or not.

@@NorthernWhisper not sure if you ever tried open cities in the 2011 release of Skyrim but even on a decent PC it wasn't a great experience because the scripting engine would choke hard... Special Edition's massive internal upgrades made it a helluva lot more stable but even then I don't really feel like the cities being open justifies the performance hit compared to a 2 second loading screen

I dont understand y people complain about a 2 second loading screen..... i mean use your imagination that you're opening the door or something..... or is anyone not even that creative anymore?

@@S.A.O.D.A it’s not buggy, it’s just laggy, at least it was when it first released, lots of machines can handle it fine now

Also, congrats on the longest bethesda game marathon sprint ;)