Nice! I can safely add Flutter developer to my resume.

It's nice to see that copanies are actually working on no-code tools focused on developers now, as opposed to just people scared of code.

Am very glad you moved beyond the “Angular Firebase” narrow scope of your main channel’s early days (…I went back and looked!) You bring so much value to the webz by exploring the wide scope you now do 🔥🛸

Looks great untill you see that unless you are spending $70 per month, you can only have 2 api endpoints

I’m very scheptical of low code to build complex app, I really feel that as soon as you want more complex logic (validation, business logic etc…) low code tools won’t cut it. But still I feel that even for complex app, this can save so much time for designing the UI before digging into the more complex stuff

I remember when this tool first launched and they have done a huge amount of work on it. Amazing. Well done.

Seems like a great tool for people who are not developers but i'm not sure I would be more productive using this than just writing code.

this seems like a great way for someone to learn the concepts behind app dev and get a project under their belt

As a Flutter developer, I would say this is good for very simple applications. As soon as your application grows in complexity or you need custom validation/logic, it will be difficult to implement them using this tool. Also, what if you want to use a specific library for state management, data validation, or data class generation but don't know how well FlutterFlow can handle these situations. If these tools were that good, everyone, including me, would save me a ton of time.

I first thought Flutter Flow would replace me as a developer but then I realized that it takes the annoying part (personal opinion) of creating huge widget trees away. I always nest a ton of widgets which is often not even necessary. Styling the app isn’t really my thing and for that, Flutter Flow is Great. Writing all logic and even Firebase connectivity is something I want to do myself.

This is amazing! Will definitely try this out this weekend 🎉

Hi Fireship. Love your videos. I keep rebuilding my project from scratch whenever i stumble unto something new from you. Im on my 3rd iteration of my project now. Flask > React > Flutter now going to rebuild it with Flutter Flow. It's good tho, i would rather refractor early than late. Ive been in management lately in my career and now that im building again you have really helped me catch up on everything.

this makes the app development 10x easier... And 10x heavier, slower and all that... But i think this is going to be used to make prototypes, then optimized by hand coding at 0% to 100%, like "hey this client has his own web app... now we need to do the same but in hand code and patch it to function like the client needs to"

Wish there were more visual editors like this, but just for visuals, leave the logic to the dev but being able to visually build something seems more efficient. Wished there was something like this for Svelte.

Thank you Fireship, this tool will be the breakthrough I have been looking for in Mobile dev. 🤩

FlutterFlow + Rowy is an absolute BANGER of a combo for firebase, been using it for almost 2 years now!

Like most low-code and no-code tools it seems great for simple CRUD applications but won't hold up well for actual production apps.

This just reminds me of Visual Basic. It's nice in theory where you can click and drag a button across a GUI, and double click the button to write code for what happens when you click the button. It's not likely to be used for enterprise apps, but it's a great way to get people into programming IMO. The issue is it's still complicated for a new dev to work with this.

I was coding flutter apps from scratch, and was skeptical about flutter flow, but now i'm sold.

This tool has been present in Android Studio since forever

In a nutshell, it's WordPress for flutter

Just what i Need! Thanks fireship!

So this is very interesting for someone like you who is already experienced with 'vanilla' Flutter. But what about who isn't? More generally, what prerequisites would you most strongly recommend before starting FlutterFlow?

We used Flutterflow for a University project, which was a blast we had super fast development times and had access to firebase integrations and User authetication etc. From the experience alone i can recommend this tool wholeheartedly

Pretty good honestly, much better than how it was when I was learning flutter

As a web dev who likes to do game dev on the side (especially using godot), I feel like visual editors don't get appreciated enough. I wish web development was more like game dev where building UI is as easy as drag and dropping but also you can easily customize the code. Godot does a great job at this (and it's fully free and open source too!)

After building quite complex application in Power Apps i am really scared of low-code platforms. Like you know there are ton of unexpecting issues just waiting for you to discover them and build some workarounds.

I was actually wondering about tools like this to build mobile apps. The surprise for me is that it is cross-platform!

Yes I noticed the clone dude... You help me so much, I watch your videos at any time, especially enjoyable while I am on my lunch break!

I like FF however lack of support on development plan is a deal breaker for me. I'm a backend dev looking to build a mobile app, so I have an API ready to be consumed already. Only their Pro plan supports adding more than 2 API endpoints, which costs 70$ pm. Paying that much for a side project who knows how long it will stay in development is a no go right there.

When I saw the thumbnail I was like „please be talking about flutter“ because I jumped all in on it 2 years ago when I saw a video of yours and didn’t want to learn some new stuff again 😂

great video on a great tool. I use it along with Rowy and makes building apps such a breeze.. have launch 3 apps already with these tools.

OMG, this is so amazing! This will help me a lot in the app I am making and also I will help to learn about flutter, API calls, data fetching and state, thank you so much for this vide and explanations!

You can't underestimate hot reloading. I learned that from Grim Fandangos developer that coded the game in lua.

Elementor, is that you?

I have had an app idea for a while and i think this is the perfect time to try this out, looks promising

Always liked but writing it hard but this tool is amazing thanks

Got me hooked just with this video. Systems engineer but I might start developing mobile just for fun after this.

Very interesting. Are there similar solutions for React Native?

Very impressive! Really cool to see Flutter thrive and move mobile development forward. Not trying to troll, genuinely curious, and trying to learn. What makes this “fully native” as mentioned at 0:16? Thanks! Love the channel

This tool is good but would probably struggle as the app gets complex. This however would be nice for building the framework design for an app especially for someone like who's bad at CSS. I haven't tried it yet but will do.

As a designer that loves your channel I had been looking at flutterflow to help bring my ideas to life. You making this clip validates it as the choice for me. Many thanks

FlutterFlow looks great. I wonder how well it works for collaboration with teams. Will definitely be looking at it soon.

at 8:06 if you didn't mention it, i wouldn't have caught it. Can notice the difference between your real voice and clone voice :) nice tool, lot of work has gone into making it, props to creators, thanks! :)

I don't know why but this has inspired me to make an app for writing books completely in Unreal Engine.

Reminds me of the days of writing Pascal with Delphi 😂

Great tool. Hatssoff to the developers who built it

Please make more videos on Flutter. You stopped making them a while back and being a Flutter dev, I miss them!!!!!!! Will be waiting for them in upcoming future!

What if you need to extend or edit features on an existing Flutter app. You'll still need to know how to code in Flutter.

is Flutter still good 10 months later?

One problem about the flutterflow that is not talked often is the code is almost unusable outside of flutterflow lowcode builder. The API used by flutterflow is not documented, and make it hard to work outside of flutterflow.

I don't know about Flutter more then it's a thing. And for me everything that you showed is unbelievably awesome

Hey @Fireship... can you do a video on PWAs and building your app once for mobile and desktop as well as how tooling like Vite would work with PWAs (considerations etc)

The problem with no- or low-code builders like this is you inevitably run across a custom thing that isn't supported and have to go into the code anyway. Then you're dealing with messy, foreign code that was (usually poorly) generated by the tool and it takes almost as long as just writing the whole thing from scratch, especially if it's native code you don't work with regularly since React Native is a thing.

If I am not mistaken, the StreamBuilder code you quickly showed might have a potential error: The stream is called inside the build method. If the build method is run multiple times (potentially each frame), the stream is created each time, possibly leading to bugs/flickering (depending on actual stream etc). This should be avoided by instantiating the stream outside of the build method and just passing the stream variable to the StreamBuilder.

Why do I feel like this will be like one of those inverted parabolic curve where at the beginning it would be such a joy and speedy development but then it will hit a peak and start feeling limited and want to have 100% control in a pure code IDE in Android Studio or Xcode

used to do this 25 years back in visual basic 😂😂😂

Lots of haters in comments have never used this tool. It literally outputs flutter code you can use. This tool is insanely useful for generating view code and bootstrapping the basic foundation for a app. Take over the code after the first time generation of code.

As js devs I think we can admit we're jealous of this

Hey can you cover Kent C Dodds’ new epic-stack? It’s a boilerplate repo with all the bells and whistles based on Remix+React

Never enjoyed an ad so much. I develop some low to mid complexity apps more as a hobby. Will definitely check this out. Since the rise of ChatGPT I completely lost interest in programming myself (What's the point of getting gud when in a few years human programmers will be obsolete? :D) so this tool is exactly what I needed.

for simple and basic mobile app this wills suit for your needs

what a time to be alive....

this is great! unbelievable we don't already have this

I am learning swiftUI currently but I am really confused as to learn it or swift ? Which of these have more opportunities ? Initially I was with flutter but seeing Google's history and newness of flutter I decided upon learning SwiftUI (also new) any advice or sugesstions would be welcome!

I think if my juniors would use this over coding they would beat me (their mentor) with development speed but they wont become anything other than juniors. This seems like a good tool for an advanced project manager

Any plans for developing a course on how to use flutter flow in detail.

I legit needed this like 2 days ago thank you fireship ascender

This is an amazing tool for MVP or low/medium complex projects. Do we have similar tool for reactjs or nextjs?

It's nice to see that fireship doesn't paste code and instead uses the mouse, what a guy!

I found out about FlutterFlow when I took part in a hackathon and no one in my team new about mobile app development. It really saved our lives even if it felt a bit limited at the time. But now I see that it has improved a lot since thn.

Can this output code you can eventually give to your dev team for them to build on? Or if you want to get off this tool you have to start from scratch?

This is great for tool for making flutter apps productive but the only issue is that we can't export the code unless we pay subscription fee of 30$ per month(without regional discounts) it feels like a little expensive and i don't think this have use case in making complex apps maybe we can use it to make a basic template of an app but other than that FlutterFlow is good if you are just making like a blog app or just doing prototyping.

So glad that you have now video about flutterflow. This is hidden gem guys and it takes your development 10x faster. I've been using this since November last year and they have improved their features a lot! It has it own good community and support. One downside I experience though when using sdk's it causes dependencies errors.

All your videos are great, but the speed is a bit fast. Thanks for making such cool stuff.

I've been using Flutter Flow for a project I'm now almost finished with and there have been ups and downs. The ups are that it's great for building UI and adding initial navigation, but past that it's very hard to build app functionality in it. Adding any custom code makes the whole thing lag to beyond 5 seconds an interaction and even without it the page in general becomes annoyingly and sometimes unusably laggy. There is click and drag based logic, but that is also very limiting and makes the whole thing lag out. At this point I downloaded the code once being done with UI. Once downloaded there are some challenges but nothing which was problematic.

Man, KZfaq ads are getting crazy long

hey what about native bridges? How do we run SDK's that were built for native Android / iOS

Amazing! Is there something similar for React Native? I'm closer to React code than Flutter...

How does this work with functionality only on a single platform... like home widgets in iOS?

Would you build a wire frame for an app before starting w this?

Problem with low code is not as much control, so not as easy to test and fix errors.

this is mind blowing!

thank you sir!

OMG this amazing. I am feeling that Flutter flow will be next WordPress like thing.

Isn't this time for Fireship to write mobile app in Assembly?

This is a modern Delphi for Mobile, love it :D

Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) - 00:00 - Intro: Flutter 10x faster development 00:13 - Building native apps with Flutter Flow 00:52 - Flutter Widgets, actions, code view 01:46 - State management in app development 02:04 - Widgets with state management 02:58 - Themes and custom code management 03:28 - AI panel, unit test, and integration with SuperBase 04:07 - Firestore schema creation, validation, and Flutter integration 04:20 - Path query language for API calls 04:34 - FlutterFlow handles complex login processes without code 06:21 - Fetching data from Firestore, deploying to app stores 07:42 - Run app in browser or locally 07:56 - Build Android apps directly with paid tier 08:14 - Outro: Flutter Flow simplifies app development

Could I do I a program where user inputs hist portfolio data coins and their amount, user chooses exchange from where the program tracks coins prices and display total portfolio growth. In Flutter?

I would like need to know if someone can tell me what kinda type of minimal specifications to use and where is the app stored, if I need much space of if a cloud with 20gbs is enough.

this reminds me of windows form applications in MS Visual studio :))

Wow, this looks amazing. I guess if I wait long enough, someone will have just already made the app I want to make, and save me the effort. 🤔😉

You just saved me in university project work.

This seems super legit. I like it no need to build everything from scratch

Do you think Flutter Flow is viable for a really big enterprise mobile app? Or even if Flutter is viable for that? or it is just better on the long run to use native (Kotlin/Swift)

Now idk if you had already planned to make a video on this or not.. But i did make a request to you.. For making this.. So Thank you❤️👀

I don't understand what you were talking about at all.

I have developed few flutter apps for production, This tool might be good for building standalone widgets, but as soon as app gets bigger this tool won't be much of a help. I have used flutter flow in its early days. IT IS GOOD FOR BUILDING STANDALONE WIDGETS NOT AN ENTIRE APP.

I have a question, though. How much Flutter do I need to know before I can safely use this? I know a lot of languages so I could learn Flutter as I go, but should I? Or should I learn it first, try it out, and THEN use this app?

Should I use this tool I'm learning react native now to build a very serious app? I Don't have any experience in flutter or dart.