Tundra vs OG Game 5 - TI10 EU Qualifiers: Grand Finals w/ Lyrical & Aui

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@isaiahalvarado8617
@isaiahalvarado8617 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats PPD for predicting all 5 games wrong.
@James-vm2rw
@James-vm2rw 2 жыл бұрын
is this the same PPD as alliance PPD?
@rayyann00r
@rayyann00r 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-vm2rw yes
@chapam2655
@chapam2655 2 жыл бұрын
That makes me laugh 😂😂 Ppd "chen is bad hero this meta" OG "Hold my Beer" 😂😂
@giraffe_hd9773
@giraffe_hd9773 2 жыл бұрын
Virgin PPD trying to stay relevant VS the chad EU players
@adnanfile
@adnanfile 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@elemenopi4827
@elemenopi4827 2 жыл бұрын
man, this panel is top tier. the chemistry is also there, great team. the humor, the knowledge and the hype. 10/10 panel. all three charming and charismatic. can't get much better than this.
@TheSkaaar
@TheSkaaar 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more
@json_bourne3812
@json_bourne3812 2 жыл бұрын
PPD does have a certain vibe I can see some people not liking though..
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 2 жыл бұрын
@@json_bourne3812 he's not as bad as he used to be though
@chapam2655
@chapam2655 2 жыл бұрын
All 5 predicton of PPD is wrong.. how can you say its a great humor? 😂😂 and how about how he say "chen is not good for this meta" 😂😂
@ironnwine12
@ironnwine12 2 жыл бұрын
PPD was really good here. Not salty, kinda witty, great analysis. Admitted he was wrong about the Chen. He should get more panelist gigs for sure
@robmds8256
@robmds8256 2 жыл бұрын
Notail disruptor spell timing is just insane.... super underated
@arturbarbosa2570
@arturbarbosa2570 2 жыл бұрын
i watch this game seven times already just to see that notails disruptor.. just perfect, holy shit
@arturbarbosa2570
@arturbarbosa2570 2 жыл бұрын
he wins the game, literaly.. that observer in tundra ancient stacks change everything
@rieljames03
@rieljames03 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it everytime i watch the game, they lose and when I go to sleep, they win? UPDATE: I watched them vs secret and now they are in lower bracket. Sorry xD
@yohanesefruan5434
@yohanesefruan5434 2 жыл бұрын
Truth has been told 🤣
@mustardcat8386
@mustardcat8386 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Last game I told my friends in discord I want to sleep, when I woke up OG won last game.
@d4d987
@d4d987 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@sindhuanggara1652
@sindhuanggara1652 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad i chose to sleep last night..
@thezefen
@thezefen 2 жыл бұрын
me too, happen every game i think, except OG vs Nigma
@blue5peed
@blue5peed 2 жыл бұрын
KING😭 never thought Aui2000 would be such an enjoyable caster.
@avj317
@avj317 2 жыл бұрын
He’s great! def one of my faves
@azuresiren9052
@azuresiren9052 2 жыл бұрын
he's a ok caster, you can tell he has great knowledge of this game, but i personally think he has a lot more awkward moment with his cohost than other casters, i'm sure he'll improve that as time pass on
@avj317
@avj317 2 жыл бұрын
@@azuresiren9052 Yeah, he just needs more casting time, but great analysis and insight on matchups and strats to the game and not to mention hes a TI winner.
@thirty-three7546
@thirty-three7546 2 жыл бұрын
@@azuresiren9052 idk he seemed pretty good with lyrical
@vegapunk172
@vegapunk172 2 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of Blitz
@llezner111
@llezner111 2 жыл бұрын
when I watch OG play = LOSE when I don't watch OG play = WIN guess I might sleep during TI 10
@unFlaneur
@unFlaneur 2 жыл бұрын
+++
@badmoodism
@badmoodism 2 жыл бұрын
Please just watch ti10 true sight😂
@llezner111
@llezner111 2 жыл бұрын
@@badmoodism I will just wake up when TI10 is done hahahha
@blankgamer4365
@blankgamer4365 2 жыл бұрын
jist dpnt watch plsss
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 2 жыл бұрын
no just watch every game. Im sick of these bastards winning all the time (jk it would be legendary if they picked up a third, i wouldnt even be mad)
@user-jv2fo2ue6n
@user-jv2fo2ue6n 2 жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a series. GG Tundra. Thank you for giving such a superb performance. To all of fans who puts blame to some players because of poor performance, please understand that they are giving their best and as lyrical said (NV), "dota is such a complicated game, it's hard not to make a mistake even as professionals"
@minhtrinh3646
@minhtrinh3646 2 жыл бұрын
The blaming is for those "strategic" pauses
@jakrejak
@jakrejak 2 жыл бұрын
After I re-watched this match, I realized why 33 didn't bring out Ravage at the crucial moment (which could have changed things). 34:20 45:45
@MrJuhs91
@MrJuhs91 2 жыл бұрын
topson actually baiting at 19:22 actually very sick play, he knew he had it... look how he holds on to the swashbuckle.
@NobleArch
@NobleArch 2 жыл бұрын
While he played it well against gank but he didnt hold swash. It was in cooldown. Shield crush which made it possible to survive the swash cd duration.
@Migolcow
@Migolcow 2 жыл бұрын
On the one hand I'm glad to see OG going back to defend their title. But on the other this has to be devastating for Nigma...losing to OG -twice- in this after losing TI to them. It's turning from rivalry to jinx
@msings998
@msings998 2 жыл бұрын
But OG to Nigma is like Nigma to Secret. Kryptonites. Secret TI10 poggers? Kek 🤣
@jeremygonzal8603
@jeremygonzal8603 2 жыл бұрын
Nigma are permanently scarred because of the humiliating way OG rolled over them in TI9. Whether Nigma wins or loses against OG in any game, they will always have that memory in the back of their minds.
@pur3lybo0ty80
@pur3lybo0ty80 2 жыл бұрын
pretty crazy to think that Tundra beat OG 4 out of 7 games but og won lol that must hurt
@nelsonlim5189
@nelsonlim5189 2 жыл бұрын
Tundra's performance was superb, but OG just had more experience
@nathanyt
@nathanyt 2 жыл бұрын
Who immediately smokes after a pause and draws a circle on the minimap where there's a lone enemy Dark Seer?
@potatowarrior88
@potatowarrior88 2 жыл бұрын
Tundra apparently 💀
@lkngfr90
@lkngfr90 2 жыл бұрын
Pause tactic master
@minhtrinh3646
@minhtrinh3646 2 жыл бұрын
Pause after a smoke, pause when smoke break, pause when snipe some heroes,... as you can see, cheating wont work
@elemenopi4827
@elemenopi4827 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload. ursa battle fury needs the other core to make space, wyvern is not that hero. wyvern core needs other core to front so wyvern can dish mayhem from the backlines, battle fury ursa is not that hero ursa should have gone the diffusal dagger route, then bkb later. COULD HAVE gotten in the face of ta and disruptor, and potentially snowball out of control. that battle fury just messed up their timings and they didn't have the heroes to make the space for the "battle fury payout", ended up as a useless 4k gold item. just one item choice, insane impact. undisputable ez game. not the game 5 anybody wanted to see, that's for sure.
@ironnwine12
@ironnwine12 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on analysis of what went wrong for tundra.
@aldrinmercado3475
@aldrinmercado3475 2 жыл бұрын
They were greedy. The ww mid was already risky to begin with. But absolutely spot on. This is the difference between a two time TI winner and a non TI winner
@ajisai7724
@ajisai7724 2 жыл бұрын
One item choice really does an impact eh? Ti9 diffusal Gyro did turn the tides around
@aldrinmercado3475
@aldrinmercado3475 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajisai7724 yes. A diffusal was a better choice.. but building bf delayed ursa's item progression.. if they were ahead by a lot this build is ok.. a lot of times pros do make mistakes like this specially the timing for bkb
@tourist7822
@tourist7822 2 жыл бұрын
Ppd rooting for tundra.. I see you ppd traumatized by io fountain dive haha!
@isaiahalvarado8617
@isaiahalvarado8617 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats PPD for predicting all 5 games wrong.
@johnwalker-fj5gy
@johnwalker-fj5gy 2 жыл бұрын
0% accuracy, 100% precision
@danisme1105
@danisme1105 2 жыл бұрын
54:12 the difference between OG and other teams
@skiobaldo
@skiobaldo 2 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS!!!!!
@mindfucker88
@mindfucker88 2 жыл бұрын
notail caryed like a god
@randomchannelbyme
@randomchannelbyme 2 жыл бұрын
TI10 EU Qualifiers True Sight please?
@minhtrinh3646
@minhtrinh3646 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out something in case people missed it: - Notail single-handedly shutdown WW - 38:14 - Pause trat won't work (Sumail and Ceb obviously pissed). If you want to smoke, just smoke, don't snipe.
@leinardesteves3987
@leinardesteves3987 2 жыл бұрын
Even when PPD predicted the games incorrectly because of the drafts. His draft knowledge is still there, his insight is still very good so he can predicts the draft of other teams really well. I miss him as draft analyst!
@parthajitjana2222
@parthajitjana2222 2 жыл бұрын
Haha..and thats why he is an ti analyst not a ti player..
@alphaeuskylearendain1918
@alphaeuskylearendain1918 2 жыл бұрын
Salty PPD rooting for Tundra to win lul
@bocup_
@bocup_ 2 жыл бұрын
he has unfinished business with sumail lul
@staplecrab
@staplecrab 2 жыл бұрын
3 time TI winners coming soon boys
@user-jv2fo2ue6n
@user-jv2fo2ue6n 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully. 🤞🤞🤞
@godkingaxiel3194
@godkingaxiel3194 2 жыл бұрын
These picks, why didn't use on Main Stage OG??? You could have won with this pick
@quattrobajeena8623
@quattrobajeena8623 2 жыл бұрын
OG loses when I watch live and they win when I sleep. Maybe I'll just sleep and not wake up anymore.
@stefansamoyloff3866
@stefansamoyloff3866 2 жыл бұрын
Seb - You know Sumail, I don't think this at all but ... a lot of people are saying you're washed up on twitter. Sumail - Really? They are saying that? Seb - Yeah man. Some people are even saying we made a big mistake adding you. I hate hearing that, just want to make sure you know I don't feel that way. Sumail - Honestly, I don't care what people think. I guess if it would make you feel more comfortable I could crush this game so hard it will look like I could have won it by myself and remind them I'm THE GD KING Seb - If it's not too much trouble, sure, that would be great.
@user-jv2fo2ue6n
@user-jv2fo2ue6n 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. When sumail tweeted about his departure from EG Ceb replied "OG.SumaiL? 👀"
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see the king team help Sumail get his second TI win, that would be dope
@uqi234
@uqi234 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jv2fo2ue6n Ceb definitely loved to play with Sumail. When her first joined, Ceb was the most excited out of them all and she said he regret retiring early if he knows he could play with Sumail.
@josewilliefajardo1407
@josewilliefajardo1407 2 жыл бұрын
to me just 33 kinda choking at the start of fight 33:59 I mean he has blink ravage idk why that wasnt use at all lol, Aui 2000 even mentioned it
@user-jv2fo2ue6n
@user-jv2fo2ue6n 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a miscom on the team. It happens even at pro scene. He might be waiting for his team to give a signal. But who knows.
@GregWiseman
@GregWiseman 2 жыл бұрын
34:29 I have watched this teamfight a half dozen times and still have no idea why 33 doesnt pop ravage to stop the collapse on nine, massive choke looking for the perfect ravage instead of the teamfight salvaging one
@123malakian123
@123malakian123 2 жыл бұрын
I think ravage was the most offensive skill they had, If he used it defensively they needed to wait the double-time to make an offensive play. This way they only needed to wait for nine to respond.
@jiegs9363
@jiegs9363 2 жыл бұрын
Tundra should've focused more on pressuring the bottom lane, I think...
@johnwalker-fj5gy
@johnwalker-fj5gy 2 жыл бұрын
damn lyrical aged 10 years since 2018
@mcgoo721
@mcgoo721 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it wasn't very smart leaving wyvern in. They haven't been close to an answer to it yet. Man though that was a great game.
@jeremygonzal8603
@jeremygonzal8603 2 жыл бұрын
OG did have an answer. Disruptor. No running away from it, which is one of the reasons Tundra won on one of their games. OG couldn't kill Wyvern. But here, Wyvern dies again and again because of Disruptor.
@mustardcat8386
@mustardcat8386 2 жыл бұрын
Well, someone bring out a thought that Tundra using pause to stream snipe OG Team.
@bocup_
@bocup_ 2 жыл бұрын
yea.. pause before smoke.
@uqi234
@uqi234 2 жыл бұрын
Those are some pos 6 shit strats
@tourist7822
@tourist7822 2 жыл бұрын
I feel it they stream snipe them.
@michaelmaage
@michaelmaage 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess that there is a stream delay. Even if there isn't I really don't think neither Fata nor 33 would do such a thing. It would be extremely unethical and would most likely result in a lifetime ban if it was proven.
@davidlangley9287
@davidlangley9287 2 жыл бұрын
The streams had 10 mins delay, it's impossible to stream snipe...
@gerardbautista7361
@gerardbautista7361 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@bronney
@bronney 2 жыл бұрын
Sheever
@iamram1999
@iamram1999 2 жыл бұрын
ppd wanna act tough with that wu-tang banner
@imranak12
@imranak12 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny how many times these carry engage then realize they're gonna die and run with their strongest spell on. Like Slark with shadow dance and Ursa with his ult. Bruh u just popped it and used it to run when you're most likely gonna die while running. JUST STAND AND FIGHT AND SEE IF YOU CAN ATLEAST GET ONE BEFORE YOU DIE!
@tossyourhead5665
@tossyourhead5665 2 жыл бұрын
distrupt had the answer to counter ww.....
@tungbiu916
@tungbiu916 2 жыл бұрын
you dont dirty tips OG too soon like that again son lolllllllll
@mkyval4310
@mkyval4310 2 жыл бұрын
PPD salty as always. 😂😂
@user-je3ux5pm3u
@user-je3ux5pm3u Жыл бұрын
Lose qualifier last year, Win TI next year. Good job Tundra
@jsjayson
@jsjayson 2 жыл бұрын
OG read the unpause into smoke action and were ready for the counter attack. Never fall for the same trick twice
@Garresh1
@Garresh1 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of surprised they didn't pull AA against that lineup. Ulti counters Abba + Wyvern heal. The vortex slow is an aura so it doesn't dispel from abba and status resist on ursa won't help either? Seems like AA would be a perfect 5 instead of Disruptor.
@jeremygonzal8603
@jeremygonzal8603 2 жыл бұрын
Fair assessment. I agree. It might have been easier, but notail would have to hit his blasts without screwing up. With disruptor, you target the hero. No chance of him getting away. That was their problem when they got beat by WW on one of their games.
@konbusoupstock8379
@konbusoupstock8379 2 жыл бұрын
Disruptor is better at destroying enemy positioning..
@jeremygonzal8603
@jeremygonzal8603 2 жыл бұрын
@@konbusoupstock8379​ I see the sense with AA though. Wyvern can no longer wait till the last minute to use his save or ult considering AA ulti just shatters them, and it also nullifies Abba heals and even his ulti if timed right. Still, notail would have to be on point with his ulti blasts. That's why I like disruptor better. No dice rolling. As long as he can cast his catch spell, and he can from afar, WW dies. no more pesky saves.
@flashnimi
@flashnimi 2 жыл бұрын
@@konbusoupstock8379 Exactly. They dont need more dmg, they need catch.
@DRJoker-ng7gk
@DRJoker-ng7gk 2 жыл бұрын
36:37 AMAZING TACTICAL PAUSE, NICE TUNDRA, IF YOU LOSE, PAUSE AND SMOKE, BOOM !! lol
@jsjayson
@jsjayson 2 жыл бұрын
But OG alrdy knew that, and were ready for the counter attack
@playmoreguitar5393
@playmoreguitar5393 2 жыл бұрын
Who the F is A Bad din.? 🤣
@jobvhingaming5467
@jobvhingaming5467 2 жыл бұрын
salty PPD
@xcvii4876
@xcvii4876 2 жыл бұрын
goddess sheever
@KidJV
@KidJV 2 жыл бұрын
since when is sneyking called the king? I cringed every time.
@reicheshirewhitez
@reicheshirewhitez 2 жыл бұрын
Never. "The King" refers to Sumail, not Sneyking.
@KidJV
@KidJV 2 жыл бұрын
@@reicheshirewhitez did you mute the video? 21:36 32:49 40:48
@reicheshirewhitez
@reicheshirewhitez 2 жыл бұрын
@@KidJV actually, you're right, sorry. i agree, it's quite confusing.
@brutalwarjam
@brutalwarjam 2 жыл бұрын
Witch blade is a waste of gold for wivern.. He already have he's 1st
@johnreygipulan4633
@johnreygipulan4633 2 жыл бұрын
Its not a waste
@brutalwarjam
@brutalwarjam 2 жыл бұрын
No, u don't get my point.. . Her 1st already have an insane amount of slow.. Its just my opinion...
@johnreygipulan4633
@johnreygipulan4633 2 жыл бұрын
Witch blade is good againts ta it's just that of have better understanding about how and when to initiate and we is being countered so bad w disrup and ds
@ditch_magnet
@ditch_magnet 2 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for tundra - 33 in particular played so creatively throughout these qualifiers, specifically with his creep micro and wave manipulation; Nine's wyvern was super clean, sneyking and Skiter were, uh, mostly pretty good, and Fata could arguably be described as a person who was in these games - but i'm excited to see OG's run at TI10. here's hoping it's a long one! ps: n0tail is washed af but i love him anyways
@json_bourne3812
@json_bourne3812 2 жыл бұрын
lol @ calling notail washed....
@ditch_magnet
@ditch_magnet 2 жыл бұрын
@@json_bourne3812 he is just a little bit! u see him missing some confirms that should be guaranteed if he has the timing down, that other players at this level aren't missing. His head is still on straight 100%, but he's not as clean as he used 2 be. he carried game 5 though so i forgive him
@flashnimi
@flashnimi 2 жыл бұрын
Wow these so called "fans" are so hateful and immature lol.
@guitarsoupify
@guitarsoupify 2 жыл бұрын
@TinyHC Pathetic attempt to pull the "no u" tbh
@Leingod123
@Leingod123 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are human, it's in their DNA, the history of our kind has had many moments of hatred and immaturity that resulted in many casualties and lives (thousands of wars and murders) that will never gone as long this species survive.
@GenericMedusa99
@GenericMedusa99 2 жыл бұрын
one of the worst tidehunter games i seen
@lkngfr90
@lkngfr90 2 жыл бұрын
Pause tactics
@lightray6409
@lightray6409 2 жыл бұрын
Paused game can't win this game hah!
@wgsupport3689
@wgsupport3689 2 жыл бұрын
so lame tonda 😂 don't know how to play dota without one-button dmg Luna and overbuffed Wyvern which should be nerfed in the next patch
@ditch_magnet
@ditch_magnet 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, who are you again? IMO it was 33's plays that put tundra back in the games they won, not just luna or wyvern. If winning the qualifiers was as simple as picking or banning luna/wyvern, OG would have done it. Tundra may have lost the qualifiers, but they played some great and really creative dota. show some respect.
@pepenguyen5321
@pepenguyen5321 2 жыл бұрын
@@ditch_magnet you mean pause strat?
@ditch_magnet
@ditch_magnet 2 жыл бұрын
@@pepenguyen5321 already said what i meant
@pepenguyen5321
@pepenguyen5321 2 жыл бұрын
@@ditch_magnet you said creative thats what triggered me. So i have to write that pause strat of theirs
@svenknight4039
@svenknight4039 2 жыл бұрын
IM CRUSHING ON YOU SHEEVER UR GORGEOUS I LIKE U LOL HAHAAHAAHAH OG FOR EVA!!
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