I can greatly both emotionally, physically and spiritually relate to this statement.

that sentence gives me ocd Eetu Alajuuma stop doing that please

Yes I totally agree with your statement

I have no clue how much it costs to be able to get it done with the new bill I just got a newer version and it’s just annoying that it was the same as it did and then I forgot the one ☝️

Only IF

Pretty much for me its just, if the gun has no recoil = Hbar + Stubby. If the gun has massive first shot recoil and spread = stubby. If it has massive first shot recoil but not much spread = Angled. Your unsure = stubby and nothing else. Highly appreciate it

Guys always equip stubby for potato cuz stubby more 😎

Maybe BF6 will get rid of the hop hop hop BS .

@@sasquatch6750 Try and aim

@@TheRecon Try and get some skill without the hop hop hop BULLSHIT.

@@sasquatch6750 I do that why i shoot +30% accs

dont you hate players that lay down and mount lmgs

Your comment has generally made me really curious and I will be trying it on stream tonight!

This is not correct even tho most people move most of the time that does not mean ergo is always better simply because at some point usually only a couple shots the lower spread decrease of the stubby outweights the lower initial spread from ergo.

I'd have to disagree despite being a huge advocate for the ergo situationally. The stubby and ergo reduce there respective spread by a percentage from the value of the gun, and different guns have different penalties, and ways you want to be firing them. Having high mobility is very important in this game but so it having great aim, and maximizing your precision when you need it seriously stretches the range on some guns. Ergo is fun but doesn't actually do much for smgs as their movement penalty is already low, and the high spread of their first shot base is already more penalty than the movement is, so stubby is generally much better as a choice for more aggression, though the angled works great on the higher dps per shot smgs if you're squeezing out some long range kills. The ergo is respectable on ARs and I could go into length as the why ergo+heavy is the only correct option for the an94, but the damage drop off+bullet speed and low spread means you kinda want to be placing your shots at long range with most ars instead of just giving up on engagements, ergo gives up huge potential for solving problems at distance or tight angles. I have started using ergo on all my dmrs now though, as the recoil doesn't bother me with any of them, and it does work well for SOME lmgs to where you can really crunch some numbers on them and find that some really do benefit most from it, but they all have very high spread increase on full auto making stubby generally both a safe and sometimes the clear winner for lmgs. It's a waste on carbines that don't have as high as a movement penalty but do suffer moderately significant full auto penalties, hbar and stubby seem like the clear winner on most carbines and I couldn't be convinced the ergo is the right choice, with weapons like to groza seriously being held back by the attachment limitations. Generally I'm always an hbar guy on *mostly* everything but am moving away in some instances, the high precision and just overal greater agency and potential makes it a clear choice on MOST guns. Things like the ScarH and p90 are outliers, as it turns out using hbar on the Scar is gratuitous when you should be tap firing now to reset the deviation anyway, the hbar doesn't really give much benefit until ranges that the damage drop off makes the gun poor anyway, the recoil may not be worth the hassle for a placebo of a benefit. The p90 and a few others have very high horizontal recoil, which is basically just spread that you can't learn (on most guns), so the compensator is actually the correct choice for it (almost want to throw up saying that).

​@@thezombiepotato1 First of all, look up what paragraphs are. Second, the vertical grip and ergo grip are the exact same attachment, they just look different. Third, the stubby spread reduction is far too small to be practical with most weapons. Another KZfaqr already did the calculations back in 2016 (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcybqZBynbCahaM.htmlsi=qaljrStA13MnFzvS), showing that you would need to shoot dozens of rounds without letting go of the trigger for the spread decrease rate to amount to anything significant. This means it only has a significant effect after just dumping LMG belts, in which case you should just be using a bipod. Use basic trigger control/bursting. As for the heavy barrel, it's only practical on weapons with low horizontal recoil. Weapons like the AK5C, CBJ-MS, SAR-21, G36, etc. which are basically laser beams. This is because the increased accuracy is nullified by the fact you'd be missing shots from its big recoil multiplier. Thus, faster RPM, higher recoil weapons like the ACWR, P90, FAMAS, AEK, MTAR, etc. should be used with the compensator to reduce horizontal recoil for closer ranges. In which case, a suppressor is also a good compromise. A good rule is under 750 RPM use a heavy barrel, 750+ RPM use a compensator. Muzzle break is useless on PC, pull down on your mouse. As for angled grip, that's basically a DMR and burst-fire weapon attachment, due to the vertical grip being so much more beneficial in most situations. If you feel the need to use an angled grip, you're using the wrong gun for the situation. (likely a high rpm, high recoil gun at 50+ yards).

I am guilty of this but sometimes ego gets to your head, especially when you grow good at something, but a good player accepts that there is always better and always more to learn, I just remembered that I wished I got more help when I started sometimes.

You said it perfectly dude, some weapons do very well with specific playstyle/attachment setups, can even be worth changing attachments based on the map, but for me I aim for, accuracy at all ranges. 2042 will be cool in the way of changing attachments on the fly.

Thank you

Thank you very much this is very nice of you to say, I hope all goes well for 2042.

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Ill be sure to take a look at this when I can bro and ill give u feedback here on it

@@x8reaps Awesome man, thank you! your opinion means a lot

Great video mate, its interesting seeing this from the perspective of a console player, but worth watching especially if your a console pilot.

@@x8reaps Thanks man, means a lot. You’re the OG

I mean.... I didn't really I just picked a part of the video lmao I need to learn photoshop xd

No it shouldn't be. BF4 was one of the last games that actually required people to play and play and learn the secrets of mechanics through experience. Too many games now explain everything and the skill gap gets reduced. Sick of devs punishing the highest skill players by reducing the need for deep understanding of core dynamics.

@@EnkeiTenjin Ever heard of escape from tarkov?

Multiplayer then test range, there you go be happy testing loadouts

To me thats just weird, maybe if you only play ARs then alright, but you can notice this with PDWs, LMGs and even some carbines reeaaly easily

@@EnkeiTenjin cry some more that people are better than you

That's very nice of you thanks, recoil varies from game to game so you can't act like recoil is the same for everything.

Thanks Jordyy! Big fan of your videos mate its one hell of a watch ;)

I have noticed dmrs have been nerfed

Not a bad combo tbh the stubby would help cancel out the spread and the muzzle keeps the bursts consistent

the gun works best with no attachments or angle grip

@@d1stopian Actually, I have now started to use Underbarrle rail + muzzle break.

Crt tv and or monitor

It's much more forgiving with an angled grip. But if you are absolutely accurate, the stubby, heavy barrel scar H is the most potent gun in the game for dps at the most common engagement ranges. Draw back is you must be a beamer.

@@EnkeiTenjin hbar stubby is bad on the scar because the hbar in particular combined with the high recoil and high FSRM makes it very difficult to aim at range. to be honest i don't know why he recommended hbar angled as the angled grip doesnt cancel out the hbar's penalty and it comes with the spread increase penalty. hbar angled is the worst of both worlds. stubby nothing is best for the scar and pretty much any viable weapon, except for the burst weapons and L85

@@pk-zi7lm Late reply but I mean may as well lol, the stubby alone is definitely not a bad choice for the scar-h like I said in the video its preference. But the reason why i use hbar+angled and not just stubby is because heavy barrel makes the first set of shots have basically half of all the spread, meaning my first shots will be very accurate, since the scar-h has a very low rate of fire I feel this is overall better for it because the spread growth is slower, the angled is to cancel out some of the added first shot recoil from hbar, I have used stubby alone before on the scar-h and it works great, but something about angled+hbar to me just feels more accurate and consistent for all the ranges personally. And just to note I use this gun by burst firing 2-3 shots at a time, I rarely ever full auto it.

For the M416 I use Stubby + Heavy Barrel because its a gun that doesn't have much first shot recoil and overrall its recoil is quite minimal. For the ACE-23 I use Angled + Heavy Barrel but sometimes just Stubby, torn between those 2 setups atm.

I'm really sorry dude I most likely won't be going for BF1 or BF5 content, its never a set of games I really enjoyed and considering the release of 2042 i most likely wont be going back to those games :/

@@x8reaps understandable honestly, BF1 feels so different to play. Maybe a shotgun attachment explanation? The attachments could have hidden stuff like the flash hider that isn't shown explicitly in game.

Just stubby on all of them, for me honestly works best.

M70 with buckshot and full choke Ez game ez mapping people :)

Always full choke and buckshot imo are the best setups for any shotgun in the game.

Here's an idea... Don't use a shotgun and actually learn how to play the game.

@@EnkeiTenjin (pump) shotguns are balanced and are skill cannons. they punish bad aim and reward good aim. however, they have definite drawbacks: -Fighting multiple opponents -Worthless at range (and the most viable secondary for a shotgun, the .44, is only slightly less worthless at range) -Worthless if the target is partially behind cover -As said previously, worthless if you can't land your first shot consistently -RNG dependent; shotgun pellets for the purposes of spread are treated as 1 "bullet". as spread goes up the dispersion of the pellets does not increase, but the chances that all of them completely whiff even though your aim was fine does. the dispersion of the pellets is affected by the chokes. in all of those areas an assault rifle or carbine even would perform better. if you can't punish a shotgun user's missed shot then that's not shotguns being OP, that's you being bad. on close quarters infy maps pump shotguns require a lot of skill to use effectively, arguably requiring the user to know how to play the game more than someone using an AEK or ACE 23. on larger more open maps they are bad as while they are okay for defending/capping a point, they are completely useless at range. i strongly recommend watching Marbleduck's video on shotguns, as he goes far more in depth than I ever could. (semi auto shotguns on the other hand, are completely broken as the fire rate negates all of a pump shotgun's drawbacks. but pump shotguns are balanced and skill cannons.)

@@pk-zi7lm not matter the game, if you use a auto shottie you're a bitch and a disgrace to the pump/lever action gang

Well from my experience on the gun Its extremely similar to the SCAR-H but with less first shot recoil and higher rate of fire. I personally use the same loadout as the SCAR-H on the ACE-23 but you can get away with using hbar and stubby on it as well, I just feel more consistent, basically i go through 4 loadout pre-sets on all my guns: 1. Stubby Only 2. Stubby and Heavy Barrel 3. Angled and Heavy Barrel 4. Compensator and Stubby

I regret not mentioning this as I straight up forgot to but, I tested this a lot and in complete HONESTY i never noticed a difference with it, so I recommend not using angled on burst weapons personally.

YO GO BIPOD ON ALL CLASSES BRO EZ XDD

Dude I just wrote my comment and read this right after XD

Its the same principal dude, those attachments work the same as they would on any gun so for example, heavy barrel on an SKS would mean the first shot you do will be very accurate but the recoil from it per shot will be much worse and you will be able to group more shots from the less spread, it works the same way its just a single fire weapon.

@@x8reaps So I assume, as you try to be very accurate with DMRs, Heavy barrel is a must? How long do you have to wait between shots until the second one is counted as a "first shot" again?

@@kev.kaviation1751 either by how well u can control the recoil between the shots or how long it takes for the shot to reset, its hard to tell and it depends on the weapon

@@x8reaps Okay thanks mate

He also didn’t go to a wall that shows where all the bullets go. In the game there are metal walls that let you see where every bullet goes unlike this wall where it shows only a few

VV CEPHIE

Its in the advanced gameplay settings but I forgot what its actually called, its in my settings video on twitch if you type !settings in the chat.

no barrel and stubby grip. FSRM is too high for hbar, comp (outside of famas)/muzzle brake/angled grip/flash hider/suppressor are useless. ergo grip is good but only in a few situations

tbh I never really used the mx4, but when in doubt, stubby only always, If u feel u can manage the recoil with heavy barrel then u can use it, make sure bursting is also consistent.

from what i remember the best attachment to use on it is either the stubby or the egro grip OR only the heavy barrel

Mainly multiplayer, but some guns you unlock by playing campaign.

No I am uneducated

point blank range and stuby imo

Because it increases the recoils magnitude a lot, adding that on top of the first shot recoil makes burst firing far more inconsistent due to the massive first shot overrall recoil in combination with both, and in Battlefield 4 I find burst firing to be the most crucial thing, although some people do like using hbar and everything.

@@x8reaps I get ya it just throws the consistency of longer range shots out the window where you could still hit long range shots but not in all occasions

i started using the famas with just the heavy barrel, AEK with no attachment

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it focuses too excessively on range to be relevant

They didnt fuck them up they just changed them, still highly viable using attachments

@@x8reaps well it didnt matter to me, bf4 taught me how to controll recoil therefore it really helped me in other shooters and i dont regret it lol. i was one of those kids who would always watch xfactor, matimi0, levelcap and so on. have about 250k kills and 60k deaths. i want to be a kid again so i can enjoy the beauties of that game cause i really spent so much time on it through summers, christmas, weekends and so on

no variet ahbd

@@x8reaps nice vid

I don't really know about battlefield 4, maybe 1 day ill return to it lol

@@x8reaps bro don‘t do anymore virginfield 2042 videos ty

Probably just stubby.

egro grip

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Yeah but it makes you better for other fps and the game is fun tho compared to 2042 and on pc it has a solid playerbase

I agree, you can never get it perfect but you just got to make the best of it, there is 6-7 guns that are just better than all the other guns, but some are overall fun to use.

X8ReaperZ yeah, it doesn’t stop me from still going back and playing it often lol. It’s such a fun game.