BFV & CoD Vanguard Comparison: Type 11 light machinegun (十一年式軽機関銃)

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@929Finn
@929Finn 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: Hopper full reloads 0:00 All stripper clip reloads 0:37 Still no inspect animations in Vanguard...
@sensei4042
@sensei4042 2 ай бұрын
Why do all CoD:Vanguard sound the same? They all sound like rusty tin cans mashing against each other
@chillglobe
@chillglobe Ай бұрын
Because it was a forced and a money grab title by activision
@raphikabiyang6999
@raphikabiyang6999 Ай бұрын
That's what I'm sayin
@Birtheater4545
@Birtheater4545 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately SHG seems to have been extremely limited in the time they had to make vanguard and so they resorted to reusing their WW2 sound effects.
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dream come to true to finally see the Type 11 rendered in video game form.
@WendiGonerLH
@WendiGonerLH Жыл бұрын
Medal of Honor Rising Sun has it
@JDaVaporPhonkGuy03
@JDaVaporPhonkGuy03 11 ай бұрын
​@@WendiGonerLHI was about to say it thx for the mention
@ikmal017
@ikmal017 2 ай бұрын
and Enlisted
@leeknow953
@leeknow953 Ай бұрын
Cod waw also
@raveninvictus8353
@raveninvictus8353 Ай бұрын
​@@leeknow953 CoD WAW only had the Type 99 LMG as Japan's lmg represented in the game.
@vitoscaletta2562
@vitoscaletta2562 Ай бұрын
Vanguard sounds like it’s reloading under water with all that extra sound
@valtra2691
@valtra2691 2 жыл бұрын
Type 11 is A Unique Machine Gun
@better-shotgun1686
@better-shotgun1686 2 ай бұрын
There are a few other LMGs that use a hopper to feed.
@agorman1341
@agorman1341 14 күн бұрын
You guys forgot perino model 1980 🥺👉👈
@Lolbloko
@Lolbloko 2 жыл бұрын
Such a fascinating machine gun concept.
@cybronec
@cybronec 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by concept???? it's a real gun
@alexravex4575
@alexravex4575 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybronec having a lmg fed by rifle bullet clips, making it easier for logistics and allowing the assistant to reload without stop firing, isn't great for you?
@yatsumleung8618
@yatsumleung8618 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexravex4575look for a video of a Type 11 strip down. It has so many moving parts individually machined.
@stepbruv8780
@stepbruv8780 Жыл бұрын
@@alexravex4575 no,not great at all, IJA later abandon this idea and adopting Type 96, Type 99 instead.
@rain8767
@rain8767 6 ай бұрын
When you realize that the US later adopted the idea of the machinegunner getting ammo from riflemen decades later with the 249. Japanese machine guns were weird yes but they actually have a reliable and dependable weapon. The italians have similar machine gun that feed by a 30 round clip/tray but theirs was a clusterfuck.
@brizzybones7377
@brizzybones7377 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to cod to always increase the fire rate to 2x the realistic speed lol
@bingolos9063
@bingolos9063 2 ай бұрын
Its not the first time they did this. cod ww2 did this aswell, but its reversed
@comrade_commissar3794
@comrade_commissar3794 11 күн бұрын
The CoD rate of fire is actually more accurate. The Battlefield one is too slow
@bocwisntamess
@bocwisntamess 2 жыл бұрын
The miniscule casings on BFV omg-
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
Rushed spaghetti coding.
@justyournormalaverageguy9750
@justyournormalaverageguy9750 Ай бұрын
One is an actual fun game The other is just depressing
@tarechan009
@tarechan009 Ай бұрын
"medal of honer rising sun"
@SDSStevey-xl4cr
@SDSStevey-xl4cr 11 ай бұрын
They screwed up the reload
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
You can top them up in both games without removing the hopper though. Have ya watched the video?
@929Finn
@929Finn 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it I shoulda disabled the ADS FOV feature in BFV. Oh well
@arcanaxiii6665
@arcanaxiii6665 15 күн бұрын
I was obsessing about this a few days ago. Occurred to me that it..could be reloaded one stripper clip at a time, but you should be able to interrupt the reload to fire once you had at least one clip in.
@aljoshilagan3204
@aljoshilagan3204 Ай бұрын
imagine if you actually had to load the gun clip by clip.
@warlordshaxx856
@warlordshaxx856 Жыл бұрын
why do you need to remove the whole hopper mechanism to reaload just place stripper clips in the hopper
@yatsumleung8618
@yatsumleung8618 Жыл бұрын
Each stripper clip is 5 rounds. If the rounds remaining is not a multiple of 5 (partially used bottom clip), just filling the hopper will not result in a full 30 rounds. So they avoided this by replacing the hopper altogether, unless it's a multiple of 5.
@warlordshaxx856
@warlordshaxx856 Жыл бұрын
@@yatsumleung8618 that just doesn't makes sense not unless your are willing to sacrifice lots of resources making multiple hoppers
@iamadiver3963
@iamadiver3963 Жыл бұрын
@@warlordshaxx856You are right and the other guy is wrong. The reload animation is incorrect. the Japanese military did not replace the hopper to reload the gun the assistant gunner would simply top off the hopper with 5 stripper clip. You can see in Japanese army manual for the type 11.
@warlordshaxx856
@warlordshaxx856 Жыл бұрын
@@iamadiver3963 yeah, hoppers are too expensive to be mass produced especially with the major design flaw
@ParaFox404
@ParaFox404 Жыл бұрын
You are right its not how the thing really works, but for thr gameplay reasons it makes sense, reloading is meant to put the number back up to full in arcade shooters, but say you fire two rounds and reload... wtf are they gonna do? you fire five and and a clip ejects you can slap another clip in, you fire twelve you can put two clips in but you still have that 2 round discrepancy, either your gun will randomly be 1-4 rounds unloaded sometimes or they can use video game magic to have the dude rip off the hopper fixing the discrepancy because if you change the whole unit the number can be 30 everytime, a secondary set of animations when appropriate and you are on a count of five to reach 30 properly, and a cool reload for whem you are flat empty thats a bit beefier then just throwing more ammo into it. I do kind of like ripping off the hopper to reload from empty but I get why it's dumb, this gun is very pretty though
@histhoryk2648
@histhoryk2648 8 ай бұрын
Is that really difficult to fully reload the hopper with clips? Detaching the hopper is a crime against this gun and no, it's not for "gameplay purposes" placing more clips on the top shouldn't be a big deal
@TakahashiRyosuke13137
@TakahashiRyosuke13137 6 ай бұрын
Well, I think Enlisted does an awesome job with the type 11. No detached Hopper when reloading.
@DMTrojan
@DMTrojan 2 ай бұрын
Apparently it was issued with additional hoppers, but doctrinally, you're absolutely correct. This is some cowboy ass shootin that would not have been standard practice. It's a bit like the Fedorov Avtomat where they'd issue it with four or five mags, but the loader carried those, and you were really only suppose to use them if shit hit the fan. Normally, you'd top up the magazine with stripper clips.
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
Have ya been watching the video? Placing more clips on the hopper is still done in the reload animation on both games when the hopper isn't depleted. They only replace the entire hopper when it's fully depleted.
@Osca3007
@Osca3007 23 күн бұрын
Crazy that ppl getting mad over a game that DEF is not made for 100% historical accuracy
@Lodymir_Elensky
@Lodymir_Elensky 2 ай бұрын
Reload is completely wrong on both...
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
The removal of the entire hopper is wrong, but both games still top-up the hopper with individual clips in their reload animations when the entire hopper isn't depleted. Have ya watched the video?
@Lodymir_Elensky
@Lodymir_Elensky Ай бұрын
@@cleeiii357 yes and...
@WatcherMovie008
@WatcherMovie008 6 ай бұрын
It hurts seeing this thing fully auto with no intervals between 5 shots. Type 11 could never unload the full hopper in one go, it would fire all 5 on the strips then a pause because the next strip would fall, replace the empty stripper clip, and be placed on the feeder. Also the removal of the entire hopper is curse af.
@alexanderK2700
@alexanderK2700 5 ай бұрын
Only enlisted is doing it right by feeding clips but yeah if you shoot 1 bullet a clip disappear in order to put 1 more to fully loaded due lack of animations
@DMTrojan
@DMTrojan 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but you're demonstrably incorrect. The Type 11 is provably capable of uninterrupted automatic fire. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldd0bLGezbOqaKM.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptGCmZqiqcCWlJ8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuJh8Jkva3MhGQ.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n92ZYJahuKyvd5c.html - (Volume warning. This clip has absolutely no audio balancing.) The mechanism appears to eject the clip almost instantly, and it has to. The bolt doesn't stop moving. If what you suggest was correct, you would need to rechamber the rifle every five shots, or the gun would have to have a buffer system designed to slow down the bolt every five shots to prevent it from closing while the hopper was slowly ejecting a clip. That said, I do agree that removing the hopper feels silly, but that's also an intended feature. Here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_11_light_machine_gun#/media/File:Japanese_Type_11_LMG_from_1933_book.jpg "A feature of the Type 11 machine gun is its detachable hopper; it can be refilled while attached and does not require removal during operation." The weapon was issued with several additional hoppers for reloading in emergency circumstances, much like its contemporary the Fedorov Avtomat. You were intended to top up both guns with clips during normal operation, and only swap magazines/hoppers if you really needed it. Kind of like the whole "We can't afford to give the troops more than one round/semi auto/full auto! They'll just waste bullets!" evolution from the 1850s-1930s. It's like a magazine cutoff feature. Actually, that's kind of a fun point. The Type 11's whole deal is kind of similar to the idea behind the Krag Jorgensen. Huh. That's a bizarre parallel.
@PROBRAD
@PROBRAD 2 ай бұрын
Lol this is game not real life
@Mr-Ad-196
@Mr-Ad-196 Ай бұрын
​@@PROBRADyah but some of them dare to say it historical accurate stuff in the game while having some of the weapon reload in the wrong way or weird way.
@Birtheater4545
@Birtheater4545 Ай бұрын
⁠@@Mr-Ad-196 I have never heard anyone call Vanguard historically accurate other than activision.
@jollyplaguedoctor7512
@jollyplaguedoctor7512 Ай бұрын
I’m trying to figure out who this video is for considering neither one of these games was ever popular or relevant
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
For casuals who prefer the easy arcadey gameplay where they could just turn off their minds when playing. As games like enlisted, post scriptum, and squad requires more than one braincell.
@sandwichpony8071
@sandwichpony8071 Ай бұрын
@@cleeiii357*for boring losers who prefer to take five million years to reload weaponry and then die to an unknown sniper hiding in a bush 2km away 🥱
@SqueakiestChair
@SqueakiestChair Ай бұрын
God.... Vanguard really sucked
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
True. Battlefield V too
@SqueakiestChair
@SqueakiestChair Ай бұрын
@cleeiii357 nah. BfV had a bad start, but Vanguard took it too a whole new extreme
@user-em7lw6yw2b
@user-em7lw6yw2b Ай бұрын
Just game.
@loonowolf2160
@loonowolf2160 3 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n92ZYJahuKyvd5c.html this is the correct way on how it should be reloaded
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
That reload of placing more clips on yhe hopper is still done on both games though. Have ya been watching the video? Replacing the entire hopper, while unrealistic, is still only do e when the entire hopper is depleted.
@02suraditpengsaeng41
@02suraditpengsaeng41 Жыл бұрын
how it works and why and you go to do that useless a piece of shit game -Animarchy (It unattachable)
@denisberezin642
@denisberezin642 Ай бұрын
CoD 💩
@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug2270
@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug2270 Жыл бұрын
Wow Japan wepon is coolest
@JohnHumanname
@JohnHumanname Жыл бұрын
Right up until dirt gets in anywhere
@Iwillnotapologizeforsupporting
@Iwillnotapologizeforsupporting Ай бұрын
Weapon, Japan. Moment
@cleeiii357
@cleeiii357 Ай бұрын
Nah