would it work for a intel celeron n4500

ASUS - 14.0" Laptop - Intel Celeron N4500 - 4GB Memory - 128GB eMMC - Star Black

@@Bob-ez2bz Probably but you'll need a newer CPU than what I used.

why

i understand this statement after knowing personally who owned.that machine 😂😂

Thanks, glad you enjoyed!

Thanks friend, good luck

Thanks. Put Pentium and 4GB and it will be faster. CPU upgrade should be inplace and RAM upgrade just requires straps change. You can see schematic for which straps to change,

Yeah, these machines do get hot. I might add more copper to counteract this. The improvement is pretty good, I can watch 1080p without issue.

@@Josh.Davidson If I could I would add a fan/heatsink. However, I'm a smoker so probably a bad idea. The whole reason I chose this laptop is because it is passively cooled. Im sure even if the Pentium did end up thermal throttling it would still be more usable than the atom. This thing can play terraria for about 30 seconds before it becomes so slow its basically unplayable. Terraria....you know...that super cpu/gpu heavy AAA game. Bahahaha.

@@addictiveconduct I haven't encountered thermal throttling on my unit, with good paste in, just the base gets quite hot. I was just going to add more copper surface area. It is only a 6W CPU.

Sadly BIOS strapping not support > 4GB. I'd have to mod the BIOS - and that messes with secure boot and other things as I can't resign it, and it's just a headache :(

@@Josh.Davidson That's an interesting point. Still, from my point of view it may be something to look into. There are plenty of resources for BIOS modding.

@@somedude1119 The question is also if there are enough addressing lines on the board.

Hello my friend thanks. Please research about "Superfetch". It is a program since Vista which loads commonly used stuff into RAM for faster access. As you use RAM, it unloads stuff to make room. So do not worry, is not really 50% RAM usage, that is just Windows making stuff faster for you. :)

Thanks

Good luck friend. Pls check for compatible CPUID in your bios firstly.

DIY machine, rest of tools are standard stuff MG Chemicals 426LF Amtech NC-559 Kester solder 0.031 inch and Weller WES51

@@Josh.Davidson oh wow thats actually pretty impressive, well that gives me confidence to do a bga attempt at smth :)

Hi, I am really sorry about that. I have no good way to aim the camera under the rework machine. Essentially, the only thing you are missing, is the heating element about an inch over the chip and me carefully watching and controlling the temperatures. The chip itself came reballed and I did not reball it. If I did, I would include footage of that. :)

That's not how it works at all. Flux allows solder to flow better once reaching its melting point. Once cooling down past (in this case, 217C-ish), there is impossible for anything to melt/bridge even if all the flux is left there. I do completely clean the flux from under the chip. This is very easy to do with proper cleaning methods. Nobody skimps on cooling, that's just myths. There is always enough for the TDP of the chip + extra. There is only a 1W difference and this exact same laptop can be configured with a N4000 CPU which has the same TDP as this N3710. (all though the motherboard is different to support the N4000)

No I did not need. Also, can't. Fastest CPU for your is i7-6600U or MAYBE i7-6660U (check microcodes)

Thank you bro

@@Josh.Davidson nope, thank YOU for showing me this was actually possible!

Glad you enjoyed! I've done it a couple times now.

@@Josh.Davidson cool. Have you ever tried doing that but installing GPU s where they should be on a laptop? I think you would need to flash another BIOS for that to work tho probably

It can be done if the pads exist and schematics to know what parts to stuff in the locations. I haven't done it personally though.

You can do with any standard BGA rework equipment. Mine is DIY.

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Thank you!

Probably not. Atom 330 is 8 watt. N270 is 2.5 watt. Probably would overload the power delivery. Also, seems to be a quite different design. 330 is 64 bit. N270 is 32 bit. Very big design/transistor count differences.

You need to check the BIOS microcodes. N550 is B0 stepping not A0, but both 0106CA CPUID. It should still work. VREG design is always over requirement, but I'm really not sure if this machine's spec. I would be cautious. I would be more confident in N475 but the upgrade may not be worth it. Not so big performance jump.

@@Josh.Davidson Maybe with a modded bios (like 771 mod when you input some instructions on "not supported hardware")

@@Azurhye yes it could work with modded bios. I’d check the vreg design first.

You need to dump and check CPUID's from the BIOS.

@@Josh.Davidson how do you do that?

No. You need to stick to same arch.

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did you had to add any microcodes to the bios? I know that it's possible to use some 8-9gen laptop BGA-adapted cpu's in 6-7gen intel desktop motherboards, but it requires to add the cpu microcodes into the bios, but with the laptop cpu both are on the same generation, so it's compatible with all cpu models of the same gen?

This will not work. PS3 Wifi board not count as BGA, it's psuedo BGA maybe... Besides unlike small BGA chips these processors are very fragile, with numerous hundreds of balls, and any slight mishandling of heat will cause the chip to be damaged. BGA machine is required. Also it depend what you want. I did not need microcode change for this swap. I think the fastest CPU you can use is N3520. It is the fastest chip with same CPUID microcodes. You can extract from your BIOS and if it supports another microcodes it might be possible to put N3540.

Probably, if you have a BGA machine. I'd dump the CPUID table from the BIOS and check what's there too.

No sorry fastest CPU Core i7-3667U.

Not off the top of my head

Si amigo!

Hi, CPU came pre-balled brand new from ALIEXPRESS with lead-free solder. I have ability to, but did not need to reball it. For reball such a chip I do not use paste I use solder balls and stencil from ALIEXPRESS. Do you have BGA rework machine? This is required.

@@Josh.Davidson thanks for claryficaton i do not have rework sttion, all i have is hot air and soldering iron so probably it is time to buils a rework station because i was thinking more about getting 10$ cromebook motherboard and geting cpu out of it, but first i need to master making solder balls melt before substrate start smoking, for some reason i was only able to reball things with paste so far i did mannaged to put 2 m.2 ssd's on a stream laptop with no ssd slots onboard withut using wifi socket though so maybe i do need to learn more tricks and stop just hacking tings :] have a nice day and thanks for atention

Yeah you will need rework station to do this sorry.

No - it was something I considered having to do but it worked without doing it.

I think so, but I don't know the CPUID so double check that in your BIOS.

Not fit in laptops.

@@Josh.Davidson I figured even the small ones in other laptops??

If the laptop is not designed to have socket, there will be no room. Laptops are designed to be as thin and small as possible.

Hi. What CPU exactly?

I didn't.

$20 or so from China

You can probably put i7 6660u.

5650U should work for you.

thank u

$150USD + shipping. Not an easy job. All this assuming that can check BIOS microcode for compatible CPU.

7660U or 7600U should work.

I can't tell you, because I don't know. You need to check microcodes in your BIOS.

Original BIOS.

I think the fastest CPU for you will be N3450 or maybe N4200. Cannot change N series to J series sorry.

No. I showed the supported list at the beginning somewhere, this is the fastest chip on this socket.

Not really. Mostly just a hobbyist.

More than this laptop was worth haha. But since I own the rework machine and am trained in using it, I did it basically for fun.

It already has 4GB.

Don’t know the model it’s a pretty cheap one but sufficient for my needs.

I'd appreciate if u could figure out the model, I'm looking to buy a microscope that is quite affordable. I would appreciate if u could point me in the right. Tnx direction

Which?

@@Josh.Davidson to put processor

@@moustafagomaa9460 Glue is not used to put the processor.

Yes, perfectly.

No...

Why do I need more RAM? The cause of the slow was the CPU. Its been much quicker since doing this. It doesn't even use over 3 under any of the things I use this for (VLC, browser) For more RAM I'd probably have to patch the BIOS image. From what I can tell there are only straps for 2 and 4 - unless it was added on this revision, my schematic is the last revision - but in that case it would be trial and error... not feasible.

I paid $20 for the CPU new from China. I already own the BGA machine and have skills to use it. I clearly explained this is MY laptop. Of course it is silly to pay BGA rework job on such a cheap machine, but this one is mine, so it didn't cost me anything for the rework! Seems you might not be serious.

i believe was not to make profit it was to learn and expand he's skills and test possibilities

If you can do it, why not? Worst case, you kill a very low end laptop, so not much of value lost Best case, you get a nice performance boost and feel proud of yourself

Thanks but the goal here is not to make professional videos, but more to share the project.