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Cycling in Carmel, Indiana from a Dutch perspective

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BicycleDutch

BicycleDutch

3 ай бұрын

[Ep. 1025] The city of Carmel, Indiana, is exceptionally people- and cycling-friendly, defying stereotypes for a Midwestern conservative-led small city. Even though it is also still quite car centric, its streetscapes do demonstrate that building livable cities can transcend political divides.
But how does Carmel fare in my Dutch eyes? I travelled from the Netherlands to Indiana to experience cycling in Carmel firsthand.
My generous host Mr. "American Fietser" has his own KZfaq channel, featuring live-streamed rides from Carmel (among other topics). Check it out here: / @americanfietser
More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.w...

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@AmericanFietser
@AmericanFietser 3 ай бұрын
I am so happy that we were able to host you in Carmel and have you not only visit as a friend, but as an expert in assessing human-scale infrastructure design centered around active transportation. It's hard to believe that this exists, especially in the middle of Indiana, but I think we're doing very exciting things here in Carmel and this is why my wife and I relocated here over 3 years ago, simply to take advantage of the infrastructure and live a car-lite lifestyle, which is hard to do in the US. This video provides a nice glimpse into what we have to offer and I'm sure that in the coming years, things will only continue to get better as our leadership keeps up the initiative of progressive city design that, as you stated, does not need to be a partisan issue.
@coleciervo5454
@coleciervo5454 3 ай бұрын
The only thing next is to get the state government out of the way of transit infrastructure... Imagine the untold benefits if there were a rail line connecting Carmel to downtown Indy. It is an absolute disgrace that Indiana used to have such a robust rail network and now the government has banned light rail and nearly banned BRT
@cycletricity
@cycletricity 3 ай бұрын
I love the phrase 'car-lite lifestyle' (I'm stealing that!). Maybe we all need to start advocating cycling, walking and public transport in such a manner, it doesn't diminish the fact that some do need cars but that cars shouldn't be the bee all and end all and that urban design and transportation designed for the cyclist, walker and public transport user is also beneficial to those who need to use cars...less congestion, easier parking etc etc. Going 'car-lite' also suggests that you can be both a cycle user and a car user, they are not mutually exclusive and just because you use a bike it doesn't mean you have to give up your car as a result. Yes! we need to advocate for more 'car-lite lifestyles'!
@coleciervo5454
@coleciervo5454 3 ай бұрын
The Indiana state government needs to get with the program and un-ban light rail and stop meddling in IndyGo's efforts to build BRT. Carmel is good except that there is no transit link to any other city in Indiana.
@RobinRense
@RobinRense 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty amazed as a Dutchman, it looks really Dutch 👌 Seems like a nice place to be :)
@Velociraptor449
@Velociraptor449 Ай бұрын
You're glossing over the fact that everywhere else in Carmel is impossible to bike, I'm approx 25 minutes away from the Highschool by bike, but it's impossible to bike there because there's no safe route. Also we have no public transit, there's no affordable housing, there's overcrowded schools, alt-right leadership, wealth hoarding, nobody stops for pedestrians, the residents make me consider suicide regularly because of how awful they are to be around, and we're not building infrastructure at a rate that can keep up with the houses we're building.
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks 3 ай бұрын
That's crazy that a random suburb that most people have never heard of is way more pedestrian and biking friendly than the larger city.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 3 ай бұрын
We Hoosiers know Carmel well lol if you move there you made it out the hood lol
@CubeNotFunny
@CubeNotFunny 3 ай бұрын
Us Hoosiers know Carmel well, most towns and cities in Indiana are going to be like this in future.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 3 ай бұрын
@@CubeNotFunny yea I hope so lol Rochester needs to step their game up 🤣🤣
@isaacanderson5083
@isaacanderson5083 3 ай бұрын
It's not, don't be fooled only the city center is walkable, the city as a whole scores 19/100 on walk score. Not to mention there is zero public transportation
@JoshuaHere
@JoshuaHere 3 ай бұрын
Carmel is pretty well-known as it is the richest city in Indiana. Their behemoth of a high school is also stupendously fancy.
@Tristan-mc4wm
@Tristan-mc4wm 3 ай бұрын
As a dutchy, looking at the thumbnail I actually thought it was a new neighbourhood somewhere in the Netherlands. Until I read the Title. Honestly really cool!
@coolsoenie
@coolsoenie 3 ай бұрын
I thought exactly the same
@Joey-ct8bm
@Joey-ct8bm 2 ай бұрын
It has more the Denmark style, not the Dutch. It's close though.
@myramoki
@myramoki 26 күн бұрын
In the very small downtown portion they are talking about, yes, it's cool. The vast rest of Carmel is a car-centric, bike-unfriendly, homogenous housing projects aimed solely at very pricey homes. Get around for any decent amount of time, and outside of downtown Carmel, and it is very obvious.
@sebzuddas
@sebzuddas 3 ай бұрын
America has so much potential
@Zhiperser
@Zhiperser 3 ай бұрын
America has always had potential. That's why it sucks so much when people give up caring or trying.
@dantem4119
@dantem4119 3 ай бұрын
@@Zhiperseroof that one hurts haha
@johnames6430
@johnames6430 3 ай бұрын
Yes, if all our money was not given to Ukraine/Isra3l imagine would could be
@p.ipebomb
@p.ipebomb 3 ай бұрын
Kinda what makes USA cool. What we lack in ancient Traditions, we make up for, being ever changing 👍
@user-ni1dm2oc5v
@user-ni1dm2oc5v 2 ай бұрын
@@johnames6430 Don't bring any of that stuff here, we were already funding many foreign countries.
@samenos9086
@samenos9086 3 ай бұрын
as a republican who is also against car dependency and all for cycling and people friendly cities, this is one of my favorite videos! friendly streets/cities and cycling don't have to be political!
@scruf153
@scruf153 2 ай бұрын
I am a republican and is against car dependency to been car free since 2020 living in Alabama
@VivekPatel-ze6jy
@VivekPatel-ze6jy Ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but it is political, just not in a traditional left-right sense. Regardless of your representative's party, the key is making sure they know how important a people oriented city is to you.
@Netizpossible
@Netizpossible Ай бұрын
​@@VivekPatel-ze6jy I mean it doesnt have to be a political issue at all. DOTs in red states will often spend more money on expanding interstates, so getting 23 million to build a city like this is like a drop in a bucket. Plus over 100 million dollars was invested by private businesses into this city because of how unique it is. It could be a model for states wanting to profit off of good urbanism, especially since this city's mayor is republican.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 Ай бұрын
One the most vocal advocates of the modern light rail , starting in San Diego , was Paul Michael Weyrich. Founder of the Heritage Foundation as as conservative as they come . He ran a magazine on light rail before he died . Google him .@
@myramoki
@myramoki 26 күн бұрын
Sorry, this video shows a VERY small portion of Carmel. Tiny! Miniscule. The reset of Carmel, and there is a lot of it, is a VAST sprawling CAR HEAVY suburb. Left or right, it doesn't matter. This city, you need a car!
@davidsprenkle2641
@davidsprenkle2641 3 ай бұрын
Great to see progress here in the U.S. There seems to be growing momentum towards making urban areas less car-centric
@peachezprogramming
@peachezprogramming 3 ай бұрын
No, you're wrong. I've been all over the US and Carmel is literally the only, ONLY one doing nice things.
@geoffreyhoney122
@geoffreyhoney122 3 ай бұрын
@@peachezprogramming Emeryville California Mayor John Bauters would disagree!
@ChristiaanHW
@ChristiaanHW 3 ай бұрын
@@peachezprogramming to be fair change often happens because one place/person/group has the balls to try something new. and after a while other places see how it goes, and if it turns out to be something that's needed/wanted other places will start to copy it. right now most of the US is still stuck in the mindset that what they already have might be best. but more and more people find out that what Carmel has done might actually a better way of living. and when that group becomes big enough to influence other towns/cities in the US this type of urban planning will spread throughout the US. so if you want more places to go into the direction of Carmel, go and share videos like this one with the people around you. and find out who you need to approach in your area to get the (local) politicians in on it. and with time your area could become like Carmel too.
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 3 ай бұрын
@@peachezprogrammingDavis? Boulder?
@superbrownsheep3777
@superbrownsheep3777 3 ай бұрын
@@ChristiaanHWThe thing I’m most curious about is if Carmel will have Actual Public Transportation in the future. The transportation that does exist in Carmel is only reserved for elderly and disabled people. I hope to see public transportation make a return in Carmel in the future
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 3 ай бұрын
I'm actually quite happy to see North American cycling and walking infrastructure done properly, of course with some improvements needed. But the effort is absolutely substantial!. Indiana is definitely taking this effort at heart..
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 3 ай бұрын
Indiana as a whole? Or just this city
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 3 ай бұрын
@@aceman0000099 Is it just this part of the city?
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 3 ай бұрын
@@Siranoxz Indiana is a State, quite a big one. Goes from Chicago to Kentucky
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 3 ай бұрын
@@aceman0000099 My bad.
@isaacanderson5083
@isaacanderson5083 3 ай бұрын
@@Siranoxz Most of Carmel Indiana is standard suburban sprawl. Indiana as a state is horribly car-centric, the state has banned light rail and is trying to ban bus rapid transit
@jackfeldman3916
@jackfeldman3916 3 ай бұрын
It was a pleasure seeing you! I am so glad that you got to come and enjoy this lovely city. With the right vision, even North America can be a walkable environment!
@BicycleDutch
@BicycleDutch 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again! It was surprising to be recognised by you so far from home! Did you also see the blog post? (Link in the description.)
@jackfeldman3916
@jackfeldman3916 3 ай бұрын
@@BicycleDutch I did see the blog post, and when I read the P.S. I got a big smile on my face! Thank you for being so kind and pleasant. Your inspiration, through your videos and personality, has made a huge impact on my life and view of the world! P.S., thank you for the stickers! New bike is on the way, and I can’t wait to put one on!
@rajm2626
@rajm2626 3 ай бұрын
One of the few places in the US that doesn't look like actual garbage. One cannot help but notice the abundance of people out and about in your film shots, even though it's clearly not even summer there yet. It turns out that people like a nice built environment.
@davidnicholson6680
@davidnicholson6680 3 ай бұрын
"One of the few places in the US that doesn't look like absolute garbage"? Please. Maybe you need to look around a bit more.
@favoritemyvideo
@favoritemyvideo 3 ай бұрын
@@davidnicholson6680 80% of the US cities has high crime, unemployment, homelessness. Don't you love the internet? Anonymous people can post any fact they want.
@popcorn8153
@popcorn8153 3 ай бұрын
As crappy as urban planning is, I would say that there are plenty of beautiful places in the USA. Maybe not on the west coast though.
@tomodomo1000
@tomodomo1000 3 ай бұрын
@@popcorn8153 Considering how huge the US is, only a few places look so good.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 3 ай бұрын
The US is 9 million+ square kilometers. It highly unlikely you’ve seen a sufficient amount of that to have a relevant opinion. Plus, your opinion is wholly subjective to your values, which are not universal. Try again.
@melalmagro2000
@melalmagro2000 3 ай бұрын
I was thrilled to run into you at the Carmel Library while you were visiting. Wonderful video and perspective on the area my family and I have chosen to call home. Thanks to you, your partner, and @AmericanFietser for spending a few minutes talking to my son and I. I hope you enjoyed your travels to Indiana!
@BicycleDutch
@BicycleDutch 3 ай бұрын
Being approached twice in 24 hours by people who knew our channels was absolutely fantastic! That's why I mention it in the blog post. Thanks for the talk and also the comments here. I hope you and your family can enjoy the car light life in the Carmel area from now on!
@patrickbritting6251
@patrickbritting6251 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in the neighboring suburb to Carmel (Fishers) and the arts district of Carmel was always a place I loved going with my friends, because when you need a cheap activity to do with your friends as a teenager, having a convenient place to get coffee, sit and chat, and go on a walking trail was luxury I didn't fully appreciate at the time. Your video was phenomenal, and I would just like to emphasize two points. One is that walkability and attractiveness in any part of America is heavily correlated with the wealth of that area. Carmel is one of the wealthiest places in Indiana, if not the entire US, and something I noticed as my neighboring suburb grew in both wealth and population was that our commercial areas and city center were developed very similarly to Carmel. So often a lot of less walkable/attractive suburbs just don't have tons of resources to put into that type of development or there's not political will among residents to raise the taxes to do that (Its even a fight in wealthy suburbs, trust me). The other thing I wanted to point out is I've mentioned commercial areas several times because if you live in most residential areas of these suburbs, biking/walking infrastructure is very limited or non-existent leaving most residents with still no other option than to drive (hence the necessity for large parking garages all over the commercial areas). Keep up the good work! Love to see videos like this!
@tiansivive
@tiansivive Ай бұрын
This is a common excuse I see, that there just isn't enough money in other areas. I'd like to counter that, because Carmel actually spent less money on their roundabouts than the typical American "one more lane" improvements. So while Carmel might be wealthier, they're also using their money way more efficiently. The true difference is political will. It's beyond bewildering that it took a trip to Europe to build simple roundabout interchanges, so it's no wonder there's such aversion to them in most other cities. As for the boulevard, it's the other way around: the communities are poor because they're unattractive, because no money is spent on them. There are plenty of examples where just a tiny bit of investment dramatically increases quality of life. You see people walking, jogging, socialising in public spaces in Carmel because the facilities are there. If they weren't, it'd be just another isolated, residential, sleepover suburb.
@jasper6073
@jasper6073 3 ай бұрын
Great architecture too; the new building blocks look like the've always been there.
@swtexan6502
@swtexan6502 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully we made a good impression on you. We've lived here for almost 20 years and have seen significant (good) change in the Carmel/Westfield area. When we moved here, you had to stop along the Monon trail at each and every street- which is fun prohibative. And, the areas that Brandon features weren't even here then. Thanks for making the video and safe travels.
@myramoki
@myramoki 26 күн бұрын
I live here in Carmel. Have for a big chunk of my life growing up, and now with a family. And most of what he says in this video is generally true, but only when you look at a very narrow slice of Carmel. The vast majority of Carmel is a massive sprawling suburb, to the point were we are running out of land to build more huge homogenous housing projects on which is ABSOLUTELY car-centric. My kid has a friend on the other side of Carmel, and it takes a good 15 minutes in a car to drive to their house. And thats on a fairly high-speed stroad. The amount of car traffic zipping around everywhere in Carmel is crazy compared to when I was a kid. And the roundabouts, while maybe good for. some things, do tend to make a steady flow of traffic that doesn't want to stop for something as pesky as someone on a bike. Few of the streets are designed with any kind of bike lane. The Monon trail is great, back when I lived within reasonably easy access to it, but now I'm on the other side of town, and there is little in the way of east-west bike-only paths to get there. And there are no north-south trails like the Monon where I'm at. So its great if you live near it, but most of Carmel does not have easy access to it or an alternative in their part of town. Yes, they have revitalized a lot of older downtown Carmel, and there is a lot more higher density housing there, with a small amount being mixed use, but you still need a car if you want to go grocery shopping, as there is no mass-transit that will let you easily get to a store without needing your car. The pharmacies are even further away. The local movie theatre has a bike rack, but it's in a shopping plaza surrounded by VERY busy roads. I wouldn't want to bike there. And as they add more and more high-density housing, more people are on the roads to get to their jobs, to shop, to do things. The fancy part of the Monon trail is just a tiny fraction of the entirety. If I want to go visit it, I've got to get in my car, and deal with traffic, and parking because there certainly isn't any other transit option from where I live to this 'bike friendly' area. Getting to downtown Indianapolis via light rail would have been awesome, IF they hadn't converted the Monon to a bike only lane. If they had left the train line, and built the trail next to it, they could have put in some light rail AND had a cool bike path. Which would have been great for all the people that live in Carmel to access all the events in Indy without having to deal with a car. They have built and are building a number of parking garages because if you want to visit Carmel, you pretty much have to have a car, and there is precious little parking downtown with all the people trying to come here. Most of the housing is very expensive, so getting all the people we need to work at a lot of the service jobs we have, isn't easy, when they can't necessarily afford to live here. And there is no transit to help get people here. So this story is really misleading. Should have spent a little more time driving around all the bike-unfriendly areas, with ZERO high density, much less, mixed use housing. Forget mass-transit. Forget ditching your car. You're going to TOTALLY need your car. Unless you happen to live and work in a couple of the VERY few areas where getting around on a bike or your two legs is feasible. The rest of the city is NOT like this video.
@TheEvox81
@TheEvox81 14 күн бұрын
Came here to say something similar. Carmel tries to present itself as just the part you see in this video, but outside of the downtown core, it's another sprawling suburb like any other. And a lot of the niceties fade the further you get from downtown.
@oldbrokenhands
@oldbrokenhands 3 ай бұрын
A quiet, people-centric city in a red state, I can only dream of something like that in Texas.
@yuriydee
@yuriydee 3 ай бұрын
Its always odd how republican leaders are always talking about saving the “main street” yet the way we build suburbs in US is antithetical to that. Building cities like mentioned in the video can absolutely be a conservative talking point (spending taxes wisely duh) yet it isnt.
@iamjoestafford
@iamjoestafford 3 ай бұрын
@@yuriydee Exactly true. The Dutch are not ruled by green environmentalists, but instead by pragmatic right-of-centre conservatives who understand that spending tax money on great planning and public transport leads to economic growth, as well as making places pleasant to live in. I live in the UK, and the contrast is stark - our system means that none of our local leaders could possibly do what they have done in Carmel or The Netherlands, our high streets are all dying, and even Manchester (which has a bit more autonomy) doesn't have the freedom or money to do more than install an occasional bumpy bike path and a few badly designed cyclops junctions. Plus now we even have the government backing up conspiracy theories about low traffic neighbourhoods and lower speed limits...I don't have much hope that things will improve!
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress 3 ай бұрын
I believe Active Towns is located in Texas & they showcase some stuff from that state. It is of course large & it might not be in your neck of the woods.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 3 ай бұрын
@@yuriydee Conservatives: "we believe in markets and property rights!" Person: "So I can replace my house with apartments or a shop?" Conservatives: "No!"
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 3 ай бұрын
@@mindstalkthat’s not a typical conservative viewpoint in the slightest.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 3 ай бұрын
Nice to see this. I discovered your channel a few years ago and it was life-changing. I'm learning Dutch and have spent nine weeks there on three visits the last two years. Going for two months this summer. Dreaming of moving there, actually. Ik ben nu een beetja tweetalig, danzij jou.
@joehoe222
@joehoe222 3 ай бұрын
Don't take it too harsh ;-). Beetje*. Happy to be your grinding stone today.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 3 ай бұрын
​@@joehoe222 aaacckk... een fout. Dank u wel.
@atropatene3596
@atropatene3596 3 ай бұрын
Wat gaaf! Daar mag u best trots op zijn, een tweede taal leren is niet niks hoor!
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 3 ай бұрын
@@atropatene3596 Bedankt. Voor mij is het één van mijn hobby's. Meer plezier toen ik bezoek. Ook krijg ik daarvan speciaal behandeling 🙂
@RobinRense
@RobinRense 3 ай бұрын
Haha, ja dat wordt gewaardeerd :)
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 3 ай бұрын
Well done Carmel! Well done to the mayor and everybody else involved who has been helping, in one way or another, this transformation. 🎉
@paulm7826
@paulm7826 3 ай бұрын
Carmel looks terrific. Bravo.
@jessicamorrisonco
@jessicamorrisonco 3 ай бұрын
As a Realtor and local resident of the Carmel, Indiana area, it is truly a gift to call this place home. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, and visit our community. The feedback is wonderful to hear from your perspective. Was there a favorite restaurant you enjoyed?
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 3 ай бұрын
Wow, this city looks so extremely far ahead of the usual US or Canadian city - especially from the aspect of mixed use and density.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 3 ай бұрын
Judging by the building styles, a lot of that mixed use and density is legacy, as in other places...
@ojasdeshmukh3037
@ojasdeshmukh3037 3 ай бұрын
I have to say as a resident most of the city does not look this. Busy 4 lane roads and state road highways still cut through the citu
@cincybengals101
@cincybengals101 3 ай бұрын
@@ojasdeshmukh3037 I live in Downtown Indianapolis and always defend our city above Carmel, mainly because I want to see Indy grow and prosper because we've got a lot of good people trying to get things done. I love Carmel's main city, but yeah, the entire place is still suburban sprawl. Plenty of strip malls, stroads, poor walkability. There's not many walking options from your house to other places outside of your suburban neighborhood.
@myramoki
@myramoki 26 күн бұрын
@@ojasdeshmukh3037 Exactly. Lived here much of my life. Back when it was maybe 20k people, and a LOT of it was still farmland. Now I live in an area of Carmel, that used to be just a big huge farm. Now it's all cookie cutter housing.
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 3 ай бұрын
That mayor is doing an incredible job by transforming his city into a shining example. Props to him!
@WanderlustTravelVideos
@WanderlustTravelVideos 28 күн бұрын
What is impressive is that the urban design looks very European/Dutch. And that is obviously the hand of the architects. Well done!
@louiszhang3050
@louiszhang3050 3 ай бұрын
Wow, when I looked at the thumbnail I thought it was in the Netherlands or Denmark or Sweden at first. Then I saw that it was INDIANA. Some of the development happening there seems really nice and almost reminiscent of the places you'd show in your home country. Definitely should be a place I visit soon :)
@mommalion7028
@mommalion7028 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for visiting Indiana!!!!
@annebraun581
@annebraun581 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Anne from Berlin.
@josephwaggener9307
@josephwaggener9307 3 ай бұрын
From Colorado where some of this is just normal infrastructure, I am so impressed with Carmel! What a beautiful area! Great job
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 3 ай бұрын
Boulder needs to step up its game!
@lolololol7573
@lolololol7573 3 ай бұрын
Wow, an investment of 'only' 23 million, and to get this in return? This is fantastic :) It really does look oddly familiar from a Dutch perspective and absolutely like something you'd want to visit. What a success!
@larsleo7059
@larsleo7059 2 ай бұрын
Wow, as a European that lived in America for a year, this city looks like the fusion of a European and American city i always dreamed of. Hats off to them, amazing!
@picakiaak
@picakiaak 3 ай бұрын
Nice job Americano's! Notice that the electrical cables are almost everywhere burried under ground what makes a huge different to me. Keep up the good work!
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 3 ай бұрын
I think it's really cool that you went to Carmel. As someone that lives in the Netherlands I'm actually somewhat jealous of some of the things that Carmel has done. Because even though I love the bike infrastructure that we have in the Netherlands I do love some of things of American life, like in this video I really like the style of some of the homes shown, which in the Netherlands unless you have a lot of money isn't something you are likely to be able to have. So I think for most places that are still too focused on the car, Carmel is a great example to strive to, that way you get much of the safety, health benefits and better city planning of the Netherlands but still keep much of "American" life. If I could pick, I would honestly pick the Carmel way over the Dutch way, though obviously with some improvements in the Carmel way. Like for example, I don't know how good their public transport is. I would need bus and especially train connection to be as good as it is in the Netherlands.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 3 ай бұрын
I live near San Diego and have lived in a lot of the US. Recently discovered the Netherlands (multiple visits now) and love it there. I don't know Carmel specifically, but mass transit here is VERY bad compared to the Netherlands. There's much less coverage both geographically and schedule. Plus, here, it's mostly people who can't afford car travel that you'll find on mass transit, so even though I like it, the crowd you end up associating with is often fairly sketchy (not all of them, but percentage-wise yes). In the Netherlands almost everyone rides transit, so the ratio of sketchy people is a lot less. That and the lack of coverage makes mass transit a difficult proposition here. It works in a few places, but you'd have to research it carefully. In the Netherlands you can hop on a train in your small town and step off underneath the airport at Schiphol. In San Diego or Los Angeles that's not remotely possible. It's an expensive, time-consuming nightmare. Seems I've spent half my life sitting in traffic waiting to turn left at intersections. In the Netherlands I happily go an entire month without getting in a car:-) Think long and hard before you give up what you have to come here :-)
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 3 ай бұрын
@@jefflastofka9289 Oh yes, I know that generally public transport in the us is bad or none existent, I just don't know if Carmel is the same or the mayor and the government there has done anything to improve public transport there. Public transport in the US unless it's in some very specific locations (like NYC) is just for the poor and desperate, unlike in the Netherlands (and many places in Europe, Asia and South America.) where it's for anyone and everyone.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 3 ай бұрын
@@Arjay404 Yes, it's a difficult proposition here even for well-meaning officials who want to do the right thing. Getting support up front to build the infrastructure to hopefully have ridership later is a tough sell. Americans are SO addicted to cars. We are getting more and more things like this popping up here and there, however. It's going to take a LONG time before it's wide-spread, but there's hope in the denser-populated areas I suppose.
@JosiahKeller
@JosiahKeller 3 ай бұрын
Carmel has no public transit whatsoever. To get to Indianapolis you have to either drive, or bike 5-10 miles to get to a bus stop across the county line.
@millevenon5853
@millevenon5853 3 ай бұрын
America is big so you can find suburbs with big homes under 200k especially in middle America.
@hansbraam73
@hansbraam73 3 ай бұрын
I wonder whether the initial plans met fierce restitance. I suppose that the population of Carmel (shopowners included) was initially just as car centric as the population of any other American town. And, if so, how did the mayor overcome this resistance?
@papaya8634
@papaya8634 3 ай бұрын
True, that would be very interesting to know
@txquartz
@txquartz 3 ай бұрын
A lot of it at the beginning was predicated on keeping Carmel property values as high as possible, and to keep a upper class small town feel while modernizing.
@firebird4491
@firebird4491 Ай бұрын
I live within biking distance of Carmel and the only complaints I've heard personally are the roundabouts, mainly because most drivers in the state are used to traditional intersections and find them confusing. Other towns and cities have roundabouts, but not nearly as many as in Carmel and the surrounding suburbs.
@carmelmuprider825
@carmelmuprider825 3 ай бұрын
Glad you made it to Carmel. I moved here in 2006 when we only had a handful of roundabouts and very limited bike paths. While the Monon gets a lot of the attention, it represents only 5.2 miles of the over 200 miles of trails. Every year more trails are being built and our ability to get to a variety of amenities is also growing. I hope you enjoyed your time here and thanks for sharing your thoughts on our city. Keep up the great work you do.
@user-vh1sh1xl5k
@user-vh1sh1xl5k 2 ай бұрын
Mark, you are a true promoter of cycling! Keep up the good work!
@rnor3146
@rnor3146 3 ай бұрын
.....🤍💛🧡❤💜💙!!!! Hello!😉 Beautiful video, as usual, and beautiful report. This city is an advanced one, and many should take example on it. Have a great continuation and see you. 😉👍👍👍👌
@ahoog69
@ahoog69 3 ай бұрын
I hope other municipalities see and learn from this excellent presentation. Living in Burbank, CA, we could certainly benefit from this type of infrastructure. There are quite a few projects underway here, and some of them do include cycling infrastructure.
@user6122
@user6122 3 ай бұрын
Anyone really shocked about how Indiana of all places got something like this, look up the distribution of salary or house costs for the suburb then you'll understand lol.
@MarkDDG
@MarkDDG 3 ай бұрын
Let’s hope a lot more places get inspired by Carmel!
@mattlamson4171
@mattlamson4171 27 күн бұрын
My wife and I lived in Indy for a few years. We always loved visiting Carmel! Has a lot going for it!
@OhTheNormanity
@OhTheNormanity 2 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of videos on the roundabouts in Carmel but this is the first I've seen on the other infrastructure. I'm impressed.
@mysteriousMatchStick
@mysteriousMatchStick 3 ай бұрын
Such a surprise to see this in Indiana. Hope they keep it going.
@computerfan1079
@computerfan1079 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating sights. At some points it felt almost dutch, whitch I have never had before with US cities
@andyvoss1149
@andyvoss1149 3 ай бұрын
I heard about this city in the news regarding their roundabouts. I didn't know good multi-modal infrastructure was also available. I enjoyed the eclipse in a nearby town also near Indianapolis. I hope Carmel inspires more North American towns that it can be done - even if they are small in comparison to other big cities.
@marcelmoulin3335
@marcelmoulin3335 3 ай бұрын
"Bravo!" to all those responsible for creating such a vibrant, attractive, memorable, and cycle-/pedestrian-friendly environment. What a joy! (Is this really in the US?!) I am watching from the Netherlands.
@anthonydpearson
@anthonydpearson 3 ай бұрын
Gorgeous! Reading the history of Mayor Brainard is great, and seems the sort of leader we could use in more communities. Believes in using experts, good urban design, civil rights and diversity, and also believes in doing so in a way that you're not bankrupting future generations.
@a-borgia4993
@a-borgia4993 Ай бұрын
Great video. we have been to Carmel many times. Good (Dutch) friend and my in-laws live there. We have taken our fietsen on the Monon several times.
@Rik-rj3pu
@Rik-rj3pu 3 ай бұрын
As a Dutch person I’m very happy to see an American city slowly turning in to a better city for its citizens! 😄
@ItsCharlieVest
@ItsCharlieVest 3 ай бұрын
Very cool. I live an hour away from Carmel and never knew anything about it before. Now I want to go check it out!
@dannyjarratt5414
@dannyjarratt5414 3 ай бұрын
This is so calming and comforting. Great little video
@k.r.t5350
@k.r.t5350 3 ай бұрын
As a dutch man, this city is on to something! There are so many benefits to this, people having a good time and hanging around, the place is not only surviving but thriving! You are making good progress USA ❤
@Maebbie
@Maebbie 3 ай бұрын
this is amazing that a city like this can be in the usa, only the street signs give a hint it is.
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of wild how they put so much effort into their urbanism and road design, yet don't run a bus system in this pretty large city with more surrounding smaller towns. I was looking into the realities of moving here without a car and still looks decent if you don't mind biking long distances. It's 7-10 miles down the Monon Trail before you encounter a bus in the Indianapolis metro area. You can even bike 25 miles to downtown Indianapolis on the trail.
@Zhiperser
@Zhiperser 3 ай бұрын
There are lots of nice rich suburbs in America. This is one of them. I'd love to see it be implemented in an affordable city.
@shivtim
@shivtim 3 ай бұрын
Chicago.
@worstedwoolens
@worstedwoolens Ай бұрын
The thing is, good livable infrastructure is an attractive force. It attracts people who can afford to move out of cities that don't want to build it. Until it is the norm, building this kind of infrastructure is always going to turn your affordable town into an expensive affluent one. The only way to make these places affordable in the long term is to make them common, rather than an oasis in the middle of car dependent hell
@kitchencarvings4621
@kitchencarvings4621 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! I wish they would do something like that in our town. It would revitalize it.
@starbase218
@starbase218 3 ай бұрын
I am amazed. This is in the USA but I’m getting strong Dutch vibes. Thanks for saying it does not have to be political. I think that’s exactly the tone we need.
@LivingInCarmelIndiana
@LivingInCarmelIndiana Ай бұрын
It's great to see that Carmel is pioneering the urban/suburban redevelopment in the United States! Thankful to live here.
@fritsz8087
@fritsz8087 3 ай бұрын
Goed zo. Nu de rest van America nog. Goed voor jullie gezondheid. 👍
@hansonel
@hansonel Ай бұрын
As an American Midwesterner it took me a few seconds to realize the shots weren't of somewhere in The Netherlands. Carmel is the best designed suburb in the US and possibly the most Dutch suburb in the United States also.
@Velociraptor449
@Velociraptor449 Ай бұрын
Carmel is horribly designed and does not have the infrastructure to compensate for all the McMansions being built on the west side (not safe to bike from east side of town to west or vice versa)
@DinoCon
@DinoCon 3 ай бұрын
If I were a film or television studio, I would absolutely film there.
@joseph1150
@joseph1150 Ай бұрын
IDK, the weather isn't really consistent enough. It's different brands of miserable for most of the year. Like 2 months in the spring (April/May) and 2 months in the fall (September/October) it's nice.
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 3 ай бұрын
If you want more details check the blog (the link is in the description 📦). You'll find great stuff like the fact that at the first round about the population was at just 25,000people. The good development must have made a good impression on people who decided to move there. Again, my compliments to the mayor 💜
@leonaessens4399
@leonaessens4399 14 күн бұрын
Interesting to see the Dutch "bakfiets" being adopted in Carmel as well. Also, Carmel is making it clear that the Dutch approach to traffic management and infrastructure CAN be applied in North America.
@CandycaneBeyond
@CandycaneBeyond 19 күн бұрын
We need this up north in Indiana
@alexgria
@alexgria 3 ай бұрын
i am glad you enjoyed our small but special city!
@xXikip1018Xx
@xXikip1018Xx Ай бұрын
This popped up in my recommended and its always wild to see places I'm familiar with being discussed online, I am from a smaller city next to Carmel and Carmel's style of developments are starting to spread more around our sort of 4 city area here in Hamilton County, having grown up here my whole life the change has been incredible to see.
@gont183
@gont183 Ай бұрын
I would honestly consider moving there.
@Carsten_Diekmann
@Carsten_Diekmann 3 ай бұрын
A great video. I like the part that highlights how the Monon has become the crystallization core for successful urban growth in generell. I was a real estate developer. The access to cycling infrastructure is such an important point that I now only doing cycling stuff … 🤓 Greatings to Mrs. and Mr. @AmericanFietser
@txquartz
@txquartz 3 ай бұрын
Be honest then, it also probably came with a big TIFF or other tax breaks. It's not just "there's a trail here", it's the city saying "build buy the trail and we'll make it worth your while"
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 3 ай бұрын
Lived in Carmel last year Indiana native here, rented an apartment with a buddy of mine and loved it there
@robrusman2511
@robrusman2511 3 ай бұрын
i honestly believe the political divide in the US will be closed by a mutual love of human-first urban development
@charlienyc1
@charlienyc1 3 ай бұрын
It could be. While I'm an optimist, it's hard to hold out hope for something that would be so good for everyone just based on past decisions and politics.
@skurinski
@skurinski 2 ай бұрын
not happening. America is shifting left off a cliff
@Jaigarful
@Jaigarful Ай бұрын
Something to remember, Carmel is one of the nicest suburban Areas of Indianapolis, so many people who work in the city live up there. They have an abnormal amount of money to work with.
@sekritdokumint9326
@sekritdokumint9326 2 ай бұрын
Amazing! The only thing that bugs me as someone coming from central europe are the manicured lawns. Less deep green empty lawns with grass, more bushes and flowers like we have here. Natural grass is the way to go!
@Kuijpermedia
@Kuijpermedia 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video well done 👍 short and to the point
@TheSpaceBrosShow
@TheSpaceBrosShow Ай бұрын
0:24 is literally me and my folks lmao We came to visit friends for the eclipse
@TheSpaceBrosShow
@TheSpaceBrosShow Ай бұрын
Also, it was great checking out the area from a cyclsist's perspective. I was surprised how now it was; you can bike all the way to Indianapolis quite easily from Carmel
@aul0s
@aul0s 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely inspiring
@BenoitMenez2
@BenoitMenez2 2 ай бұрын
The videos here date back from months to years ago. A lot more has changed and improved since then!
@BicycleDutch
@BicycleDutch 2 ай бұрын
Except for one clip where that was stated as the before situation, all the footage was filmed early April 2024.
@komandagleby_GB
@komandagleby_GB 9 күн бұрын
HaHaHa-at 0:21-0:27, you can see our bike trio that came to Carmel to watch the eclipse! If you're interested, watch our ride along the Michigan Lake trail in Chicago. As for coming to Indiana from the Netherlands to bike, we recently traveled with our bikes to Japan from the US, so you can try this as well.
@iksnirkS
@iksnirkS 28 күн бұрын
jan gehl and jeff speck?? damn I had no idea all the urban titans were involved in this. love mr fietser too
@Timmiee76
@Timmiee76 2 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@insertyourquarters
@insertyourquarters 3 ай бұрын
This is wonderful!
@thomashughes_teh
@thomashughes_teh 2 ай бұрын
I cycle commuted to there for work in the 1980's from Indianapolis when Rangeline Road was a pencil thin 50mph in a 40mph speed limit gamble. Keystone and Meridian were also heart pounding gauntlets of horns, cuss words, debris filled fractured shoulders and getting passed by cars within inches. Now I have been known to drive my bicycle to there just to ride around in Southern Hamilton County.
@MattZaycYT
@MattZaycYT 3 ай бұрын
So pretty and so pleasant! Carmel did the right thing.
@Giithiomi
@Giithiomi 3 ай бұрын
Roundabout driving rule is simple: Give way to cars driving from your left
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 3 ай бұрын
Nice video. I wonder, when you were in the US did you get a chance to visit any other cities to look at bike infrastructure there? I hope you have a chance to visit Washington DC one day. It's not Dutch-standard, but there has been quite a lot of progress in the last 5 years on getting bike lanes (especially protected lanes) installed in much of the core of the city. The city has a generously cheap and widespread bike share program called CaBi. You can take bikes on the metrorail system. There are many trails like the MBT, Capital Crescent, and Anacostia Trail to get you further out into the city and surrounding areas, and many have bike amenities, local restaurants, residences and such nearby. It's not perfect- we are fighting hard to get bike lanes put on some major roads that really need it. But I'd say DC is the most comfortable major US city to bike in.
@mcc.o.4835
@mcc.o.4835 3 ай бұрын
Brillant!! Well done Carmel Indiana.. 👏😀
@michaelholfelner5480
@michaelholfelner5480 2 ай бұрын
Please do a video about bloomington normal illinois, we have over 45 miles of trail!!
@denizwesley3227
@denizwesley3227 3 ай бұрын
Pretty little town!
@something-hs1ui
@something-hs1ui 3 ай бұрын
I want this guy to plan my city
@jayandreas1131
@jayandreas1131 3 ай бұрын
Very Europey vibe. Looks great.
@danmcclaren5436
@danmcclaren5436 3 ай бұрын
hopefully Carmel goes viral and everyone start moving there. The first american Paris
@lemelleiur
@lemelleiur 3 ай бұрын
Have you seen cycling infrastructure in Ljubljana and Slovenia? It looks as if the whole country has loads of protected intersections and protected lanes. Could you possibly do a video on the cycling infrastructure there someday?
@cycleistic1365
@cycleistic1365 3 ай бұрын
If only the rest of the US would follow this example, rather than the opposite. That would send a great signal to the rest of the world even, where car centricism prevails.
@mesoed
@mesoed 3 ай бұрын
Well, it helps that Carmel is one of the richest communities in the US.
@cycleistic1365
@cycleistic1365 3 ай бұрын
@@mesoed No doubt _it takes change to make change,_ and yet, car centric infra is known to be often economically net negative, streets, roads and parking lots aren't cheap to build or maintain, plus all the adverse effects that it brings along. There are good sources that explain how car infrastructure actually contributes to communal poverty: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8-fZcSLx8XNmas.htmlsi=fxDnF_nTf-3fEmSX kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9dmYNGqxJ-2mas.htmlsi=o6YKw7AKNLfZbcBE kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etldqZVe1t-nk2w.htmlsi=e8vJz0J51adBJua-
@gregtitus2467
@gregtitus2467 Ай бұрын
Kudos to Carmel for doing such an outstanding job! Way better than Carmel, CA!!!
@rodrigosouto9502
@rodrigosouto9502 3 ай бұрын
Holly God, is this really the USA? Amazing city!
@joetrey215
@joetrey215 3 ай бұрын
Important considerations: In 2023, Carmel was the most expensive city to live in in Indiana. The median family income in 2021 was just under $120,000. "In 2021, the median property value in Carmel, IN was $372,100, and the homeownership rate was 75.3%. Most people in Carmel, IN drove alone to work, and the average commute time was 25 minutes. The average car ownership in Carmel, IN was 2 cars per household." The percent black population in 2021 was 2.7% of the total.
@an_der4856
@an_der4856 3 ай бұрын
cidade linda! - Brasil, São Paulo
@priestofronaldalt
@priestofronaldalt 7 күн бұрын
I live in the same county but a different town. Because there are a lot of roundabouts in this part of Indiana, my father took me here when i was learning to drive as i requested to get some more experience while driving. When going through town i thought it looked rather walkable.
@awkwardsilence4241
@awkwardsilence4241 7 күн бұрын
I live pretty close to the monon trail, it's really nice!
@driewiel
@driewiel 3 ай бұрын
Should be called Bikemel.
@ChicaFoo
@ChicaFoo 3 ай бұрын
I wish the rest of the us was like this
@Jerbod2
@Jerbod2 3 ай бұрын
Woah that looks worthy of the Dutch!
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to visit Carmel some day, it seems like a fascinating city. It's just a shame that for all the incredible progress they've made on the pedestrian and cycling fronts, they still have no public transit whatsoever except for a dial-a-ride that must be reserved 24hrs in advance.
@joseph1150
@joseph1150 Ай бұрын
It's mostly a bedroom city that everybody commutes to Indianapolis. Everybody that is well off enough to live there can afford to drive. It's a very quick drive at that, being directly north of the CBD, shopping areas, and 465 loop that takes you anywhere quickly. If you wanted mass transit there, it would have to be part of a city wide network through Indianapolis, which just isn't going to happen any time soon.
@kandiceblu1
@kandiceblu1 8 күн бұрын
The mayor also connected all the major freeways from Carmel ...he transformed Meridian Street into connecting with 465 ...it's unreal what this man did... and his timing was perfect..
@patypami16
@patypami16 3 ай бұрын
Looks really nice, but is there any kind of public transportation?
@charlienyc1
@charlienyc1 3 ай бұрын
I've read enough of the comments section to know there is little to none. It's very different from the Netherlands in that respect.
@kandiceblu1
@kandiceblu1 8 күн бұрын
No public transport... I don't think the people would ever support it.. Americans love bikes but they love their cars...
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