This week, A'ndre and Ryan speak with Russ Travers, former Deputy Homeland Security Advisor to President Biden, about the Afghanistan withdrawal, the Special Immigrant Visa program, and future counterterrorism challenges. Russ, who also served as Acting Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, provides his take on the nature of the terror threat today, and how we have to think through the evolution of terrorism today. We also discuss the national security community's "whole of government deficit" -- highlighting how we can address emerging threats that transcend responsibilities of multiple agencies within the government. We then turn to Afghanistan, where Russ responds to criticisms levied against the Biden Administration's handling of the situation, stating that there "were no good options," and why even though he initially supported staying in he acknowledges the dangers of a maintained troop presence there. We spend time discussing the Special Immigrant Visa program with Russ, a program he oversaw as it pertained to the Afghan evacuation, and how resettlement has proceeded. The conversation closes out with Russ' thoughts on greatest future threats -- particularly threats from within.