Yeah they should be rendered

I hope it has a terrain Painter tool

the most needed feature is an actually adequate water simulation

We need built in traffic manager

and that don't cost 2 cents per meter to build

I get that this is a challenge so it's fair game, but... it was funny watching Biffa build an entire city bypass underground simply to solve traffic.

That's what happens when you don't have TM

And that a cut through is needed at every round-a-bout

27:26 He ran out of tea at the moment the bypasses came, a new scenario was born.

And these tiny ramps used as a "highway" throughout the whole of the city is just a trigger thing. If i saw that, id be just quitting the challange 😅

Also interconnectedness, preventing everyone having to come through the same centre station wherever they want to go.

Exactly. The Metro Plaza spider hub should not be the end-station for any metro lines. Subway trains should continue through to the far end of the tunnel. Every transport system with point to point operation has underground/overground railways going from one side of the city to the other. There should also be a circumferential line so that cims don't have to go all the way into town and come back just to get 1 or 2 neighborhoods over. And in the new area the line coming out of the spider hub should make a one-way loop around the circle line so people won't have to transfer.

​@@PerfectAlibi1 True, most of the people I know from my district prefer to take a bus instead of a train (even when the bus ride takes 2 times longer), so they don't have to change. Apart from me (I'm public transport fanatic), I know only one person who likes to change lines (due to their love for trams)

The new area also shouldn't need a transfer. Just a line out and then around the loop.

He never does... Biffa really likes doing point-to-point lines, maybe three stations on the entire route, and always ending at the hubs instead of passing through. No idea why, since a line which goes through a station is always more useful than one which terminates there...

It’s such a hard challenge!

Or build highway tunnels underneath the roundabouts. That will work so long as the speed limits on the roundabout and highway off ramps are lower.

I’ll second that

Grade separation is super powerful. If he'd just do proper junctions I really think he wouldn't even have had to cheese it with the underground highway, either.

@@astrognash. Most likely. Although just going under the whole map was also pretty interesting. In reality trying something like that would be a nightmare and a half.

That would have been the first thing I did. Without TMPE all the cars are doing a little pause as they enter each roundabout which is dramatically slowing down traffic. Make the highway go straight through and replace the roundabouts with simple overpass on/off ramps and that would fix the flow through the city.

I think that's on purpose?

Thats the point. He wants them to use the train station rather than driving into the city

I noticed that too. The trucks can't get out, so they have to despawn instead. 😂😂😂

@@edwardmiessner6502 Of course! Bit cheesy but great solution to the problem.

So much poop water! 😂

It doesn't show up as pollution in the overlay it seemed from the last video, that probably influenced the delay in his response.

There are three reasons. Distance, number of riders, and frequency of trains needed, and all three of those effect the budget. Let's consider a basic metro setup: (HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) --- (COMMERCIAL HUB) --- (LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) Assume equal distances between each stop. Also assume 1000 weekly riders between the high density and the hub and 200 weekly riders between the low density and the hub. One Combined Line: You're going to need at least four trains between the high density and the hub to maintain a good frequency of trains to move all of those people. The other half of the line to the low density only needs one train to get everybody as everybody fits on one train every single trip. As a single line, you must have at least eight trains on the entire line to maintain the frequency the high density demands but as a consequence, that means you're running four mostly empty trains on the low density half. Every time you need to add another train to accommodate the high density area, you actually have to add two so that one can run on the low density half of the line as well to maintain the appropriate frequency that you're trying to get in the high density area. Now consider distance, if the low density is closer to the hub, you can get away with fewer trains and maintain frequency in the high density, but if the low density is further from the hub then the high density is, then you have even more unused trains on that line to maintain the proper frequency. Multiply this out by five combined lines and now we're in the neighborhood of fifteen to twenty extra unused trains every single week. Two Separate Lines: As separated lines, it does take a little more time to set up and adjust, but you have much better control over the number of trains and your budget, you can run the four or more trains to the high density that they need to run effectively and continue to add as needed, and then only the one train to the low density that never needs to be adjusted because there will never be enough population to push it beyond needing the one train. Now consider distance here. It is irrelevant. The trains aren't pinging across both halves so you only have to make a judgement on the half you are adjusting. You aren't wasting money on running all of those extra trains and you can turn a metro system that is nothing but a drain on your finances to one that is profitable and lets you be a little wasteful in other city services. Who wouldn't like to have more garbage collection if you knew your metro could pay for it, or a couple extra small police stations in areas that could use them? Don't waste money on unnecessary transit when it can be better spent increasing land value. Bonus fact: Cims in the game do not care about transferring so long as they don't have to leave the building to accomplish it, it doesn't count as a transfer to them. If they are transferring from one metro line to the other in the same building they do it no problem by simply switching platforms, if they are transferring from metro to bus, they have to leave the building and they add that as a transfer on their route. Too many transfers and they'll pull out their pocket car and drive to where they need to go. This is why transit hubs are super important. Cims can transfer between modes of transportation and not leave the building, thus they remain happy and willing to complete more of their route via public transit.

Yeah, letting people have a choice of not going to the main hub and then out again would be nice, and also maybe having lines going through the hub without the need to switch to another train

Thanks 😁

Same!

There's a playlist 😉

They have one in Cairo but that's the only one I could think of. Other African cities that I know of have either surface trains or skytrains.

Don't fall in!