How To Fix Overcrowded Stops w/Transit Hierarchy in Cities Skylines!

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@RivkahSong 3 жыл бұрын

0:14 Only in Cities Skylines could someone say "We're going to be looking at traffic! All sorts of new and exciting things!" and the audience immediately is like "Hell yeah, traffic management and lane mathematics, baby!". We are a very /special/ community, I swear. 🤣

@jdaniels4490 3 жыл бұрын

Am I dreaming? 4 episodes in like about a week? Must be christmas already.

@BlackPointt 3 жыл бұрын

And tbh its still not enough even if they are 40mins long feels like its only 10mins haha i just love watchin BIffa build and chill with some tea ^^

@markopolic9964 3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackPointt What do you mean, his videos are 10 mins av... hold on WHAT O.o

@davidmcdonald8893 3 жыл бұрын

People are using the bus because it's slightly faster than the monorail. However, because the buses don't have enough capacity they end up waiting forever and the AI isn't smart enough to swap to the monorail instead. Probably just removing the bus line from the amusement park altogether would be more sensible. Offering them two ways to achieve the same movement usually means one isn't ever used. I should note, it's only faster on the return trip from the park, probably because the bus stop on the return trip is right at the ferry pier. On the way to the park, the monorail is faster and is well-used. Essentially you have all the monorails full in one direction but empty in the other, and the buses vice versa.

@angelrivera9412 3 жыл бұрын

I don't even play this game. But honestly it is so cool how you make magic out of this. Keep up the stress relief videos for me.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thanks :-)

@marchutch 3 жыл бұрын

I used to play it. Now I just watch Biffa play it

@antti-jussikemppainen305 3 жыл бұрын

The same! Don't play but I do enjoy watching Biffa!

@michaelbrewell99 3 жыл бұрын

Me too digger love it.

@Matt-my7pz 3 жыл бұрын

@Valerio Di Gregorio this is exactly the same for me. That and I want to do the achievements but then I'd have to play so much to accomplish them before using mods... So I watch

@oskarblock1970 3 жыл бұрын

You still have the blue train stop on the same side for both directions on No Problem Atoll. Been like that for a few Episodes now :)

@ParkerTyler 3 жыл бұрын

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who noticed. I've been commenting this on several of the last few episodes! Oh well! 😅

@MrAdamface 3 жыл бұрын

the novel-tea is starting to wear out everytime i see it.

@wildcard_25 3 жыл бұрын

I replied to the first comment I saw mentioning this, it's now buried about 10 pages down. 22:38 for a close view of the problem. Also curious if Biffa has a mod installed that allows reversing the direction for the inside pair of tracks to stop the thru trains from doing a diverging diamond manoeuvre. i.e. the game sets the tracks as a left/right pair not an inner/outer pair.

@achillesa5894 3 жыл бұрын

So at the end when you're looking at the Commuter Destinations for the amusement park bus stop, I think you've actually got lots of people that want to get off the island and back to the main city. You didn't zoom out enough to see it but I think I caught a glimpse of a destination icon across the water. It would make sense as it is the city's amusement park and probably attracts people from all over the city!

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

That would make sense but why would they take bus and not the monorail? The bus can't get them all the way so they'd have to change to something else. Maybe it's easier/faster to reach the ferry by bus than monorail? Could be in that direction.

@Devlonir 3 жыл бұрын

My theory is that they prefer to take the bus from the main exit because of the time needed to walk back to the monorail station does not beat the time gained from having monorail over bus. Civs will always take the quickest route regardless of how busy it is, so bus must still be considered quickest for the distance to the train station. Adding a side entrance of the amusement park at the monorail itself may solve the issue or at least spread it. As a few of them will then choose monorail over bus.

@Jixa03 3 жыл бұрын

Yes totally true at 37:21 you can see people wanting to go on the other main island !

@Devlonir 3 жыл бұрын

Another thing I realise is that the monorail has the longer walk to the ferry. Maybe a lot of them take the ferry over the train and therefore choose the bus.

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

@@Devlonir The train has a pretty long way to travel and the ferry is well used, so it's very likely that's the case.

@MrCheechopelli 3 жыл бұрын

looking forward to the "rock fes-tea-val" coming up along the rockpark

@Cleopas82 3 жыл бұрын

I thought this could go behind the train station now that he’s got paths connected across the highway.

@Seriously_Unserious 3 жыл бұрын

Headlining the event will be of course, The Tea Party. and the MC will naturally be The Rock.

@T3HFootballGuy 3 жыл бұрын

I always struggle when Biffa adds in a transport hub. The hub never gets used as a true hub. There should be multiple lines coming out of the hub going to different areas, but instead there is a bus hub with two lines that go to TONS of places.

@Nudo1985 3 жыл бұрын

Dear Biffa, The monorail over the road is in increments, the pillars have different distances. You could have the four-lane + bus lane under the monorail with the appropriate pillar distance. An ingenious modded network. Thanks for the content :-)

@robertcrawford1421 3 жыл бұрын

I've been here since Teaville (I came in halfway through the series so I had to binge that one), loved Teaport, but I'm super excited to see the full power of New TeaLand, it's definitely my favorite (so far)!

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Robert Crawford :-)

@JakkeJakobsen 3 жыл бұрын

While I find New Tealand the best series, I do miss Teaport **pink nostalgia glasses on**

@KeyesThrasher 3 жыл бұрын

Same here mate! Halfway thru Teaville, binged it, and went back to watch the industry’s DLC gameplay instead of teaport lol

@kdkbear 3 жыл бұрын

Monorails don’t need turnarounds, they can end at a station like trains or metro

@axol7417 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but monorailabouts are coool

@milktar2182 2 жыл бұрын

@@axol7417 and expensive

@landmarkleather 3 жыл бұрын

We need to add "Not Too Shabby Atoll" to one of the peninsulas or islands

@RougeEric 3 жыл бұрын

11:09 Just add a bus-only road on the side of that one. I'm always surprised it isn't something people do more in this game: it allows you to have a massive bus hub in one place without affecting the rest of traffic, and if you have a few connections on either end, that bus traffic can join back into the normal road network without causing issues. Think of it like having a sort of highway with on/off ramps so all the traffic doesn't just get dumped onto a single road, except it's buses only.

@23inator 3 жыл бұрын

There's nothing my partner and I love more than to come home after a long day at work to enjoy a cuppa and a biffa. Thanks for making great content!

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! :-)

@fan123654789 3 жыл бұрын

13:26 People coming down from the roundabout can’t turn right, they can only go straight and need to turn around. Edit: You can see it even better at 22:08

@ESOTERIC0001 3 жыл бұрын

if im seeing it right the bus lane can turn right which cars will use to turn. sorry if im not seeing it correctly.

@patonb 3 жыл бұрын

was gonna say this too

@fan123654789 3 жыл бұрын

@@ESOTERIC0001 No, the bus lane can only used by buses and emergency vehicles

@ESOTERIC0001 3 жыл бұрын

@@fan123654789 oh in my game ive had normal vehicles use the bus lane to turn (only to turn not drive down), now im confused about how i got that to happen lol ohh well.

@bazzakrak 3 жыл бұрын

I believe it iis a setting in TMPE that allows you to say who can use the buslanes@@ESOTERIC0001

@EnderPlays 3 жыл бұрын

Just recovering from COVID and thought of listening to Biffa having a Sippa' Tea to lighten up the mood, so far it worked! ❤

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you are feeling better :-)

@_araminta_ 3 жыл бұрын

Get well! 🌻

@Raphiii 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you get better soon 😘🔜

@trixilux 3 жыл бұрын

Love the monorail!! I think you need to re-draw the bus lines though, I think the bus routes are all jumbled up and are now taking longer distances (which would explain why your green line jumped up from 18 > 21 buses) and the arrows you see when you are in the Stop view are showing double arrows in some cases ( >> instead of >) which generally means that the bus is driving the same road twice. Might just be worth deleting both lines and re-drawing them in :) Keep up the amazing work - love the new Metro line next to the stadium it looks amazing!

@gogpipe 3 жыл бұрын

Love the content biffa. Litteraly binged the first 15 episodes and count down the hours till a new episode comes up. Keep up the awesome work

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! :-)

@canislupus5025 3 жыл бұрын

Get a life.

@abatall 2 жыл бұрын

@@canislupus5025 no u

@Tchelow 3 жыл бұрын

I love to see all these people walking everywhere. It just makes the city come alive. 😊

@KeyesThrasher 3 жыл бұрын

Thinking about all the potential Atolls that could exist but don’t yet; like the Not To Shabby Atoll, and the No Worries Atoll. Great content mate

@noahreijnen7496 3 жыл бұрын

You’re my favorite channel!

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! :-)

@nekto4658 3 жыл бұрын

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Biffa, where is cable car challenge? =(

@Khannea 3 жыл бұрын

2022 Biffa discovers Beer, his city creation and youtube content wildly changes lanes.

@jefkempeneers2631 3 жыл бұрын

Wow the episodes are coming out fast! Love it

@EzwanRohman 3 жыл бұрын

Can we have this as a daily basis content ? Loving the series

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe :-)

@cbbreezytv6887 3 жыл бұрын

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines omg yes Biffa

@hellsop 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget also that there are larger capacity buses you can put on heavily used lines. For example, the workshop's got some bendy-buses with 3-4x the capacity of these little ones that run by default. (If someone doesn't know how to make this work, subscribe to the asset on the workshop, turn on asset in the settings, then select the new bus type on the line info screen.) The bigger buses seem to load passengers just as fast as the small ones

@gustavowilhelmnino3684 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking what to do right now and that video just came perfectly. Thank you Biffa!

@jeff0421 3 жыл бұрын

You have been so great to watch. I have dozens of hours invested in your videos now. Showed you to a couple friends and they are hooked now too. Thank you for always being fun to watch and giving off those good vibes.

@claaaaaire 3 жыл бұрын

having the orelando bus line go both clockwise and counterclockwise would probably help, even if you still kept the same total number of buses.

@romainpedra 3 жыл бұрын

Among all cities skyline player I follow on KZfaq, you're simply the best. You have a natural gift for this, it seems so easy to you to make it look so cool. Keep up this way

@Caittorr Жыл бұрын

This episode was so helpful! I knew my transit wasn't working the best, but I didn't know how to fix it. Watching all the ways you tweaked yours really helped show me what I can do, and that it will work!

@vickirothe3761 3 жыл бұрын

I really do enjoy these episodes that take a look at what can be improved in a city in-between building new areas. Improvements often attract more citizens. I hope this type of episode becomes a regular feature within your build streams. 👍👍👍👍👍

@lukebentley9993 3 жыл бұрын

Ferry, bus, and monorail running just like the irl Disney World! Excellent! Thanks for giving me some entertainment while I grind away at a very boring job. Hope the recovery is going/went well!

@Checkedbox 3 жыл бұрын

The 16m one way monorail over road network would have worked, the ones you used were too narrow/not meant for over roads

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Ah! Thanks :-)

@greenlighttrrop4769 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting in more stops and much more transportation options. I knew it was gonna back up the way it did but thankfully it will clear up with time. And please don’t stop updating as often as you have been. I enjoy watching a new episode everyday…..meaning you should update everyday 😂😂😂

@adamiennd8167 3 жыл бұрын

love that KZfaq notified me right away

@foolhardy3000 3 жыл бұрын

Found your channel a few days ago. Love everything i saw so far!

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard and thanks :-)

@jaredlowe3927 3 жыл бұрын

This might be my favorite episode in the series. I love to see a well developed transport network!

@robertospinetti1815 3 жыл бұрын

Probably the 200+ people waiting for the bus just want to go somewhere further than the same island they are in... I suggest a "zoom out catch a view" with Commuter Destination. I've finally bought the game and it's thanks to you! Now I've got to find some of the mods you use and get friend with them :p

@lilmissteddy 3 жыл бұрын

I watch every single one of your city skylines vids, have done so for the past year and a bit but ive gone back and looked at all of them, love watching them, i am horrible at the game, played it on xbox and on my poor laptop that struggles so hard to run the game haha youre skilled at city planning 👌🏼👌🏼 keep going!! My after dinner chill time is to watch ur vids 🥰

@bradleyGH1 3 жыл бұрын

seeing this has actually made my day, thank you biffa!!

@metallurgymike1568 3 жыл бұрын

Added commuter destination mod to my asset list... Going from fix to fix like that where you can actually track your progress. Exactly what I've needed in my city and I didn't even know it! Thanks for finding it and showing it off. Also added the b and p pavement! :D

@CitiesbySteven 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic as always Biffa :) love the new transport hubs!

@andreanari3341 3 жыл бұрын

Love the fixes biffa! You can tweek also the ferry line number 4 to make it stop on the main island also on the way back, so the Alcatraz Islanders can go to the main island without going back to the hibiscus terminal!

@matthewkrohn6486 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Biffa, since the monorail is taking people to Teasney World, there is a pack for the monorails on the workshop that makes the standard in game monorails look like the ones used at Disney World, and I think that would be too perfect for this stretch of monorail!

@joelklein8532 3 жыл бұрын

Love the new walking/bicycle paths! And about the train in No Problem Atoll: I was like "oh yay, he's going to No Problem Atoll to fix the Blue.....bus...ohh. so close!" :)

@RezoanurRahman 3 жыл бұрын

I literally binge watched the entire city fix playlist. Can we have more of that please?

@twhcommanchegamer5595 3 жыл бұрын

Biffa. How do you make the move it mod look so easy to use? I really struggle to use the same height and slope function. Maybe you could do a quick tutorial on how you do it lol. But as always I love the content and your city so far and can’t wait for the next episode to come out. I find that when I’m building I always ask my self what would biffa do lol.

@patrickharris3296 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids. I'm watching Teapot in between these and I keep forgetting which City I'm watching 😆 🤣. Keep building, Biffa!

@thejugrknot 3 жыл бұрын

Think of your Buses as the way you do metro's. Loops with Transfer points! They don't need to go long distances back to a stop somewhere, just to a transfer point like you've setup across the highway.

@OwainMeadmaker 3 жыл бұрын

Another fantastic video, thank you Biffa.

@damienhufford 3 жыл бұрын

Very good video. This city is so well thought out. Keep up the good work

@jordanfarr413 3 жыл бұрын

Im in love with this New Tealand Build series. Bless Biffa

@unknownextra 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the series Biffa. One thing that might help with the trains - when you replaced No Problem Atol station, the blue line now uses the same platform for both directions which causes things to back up 🤙 Can't wait to see how the city develops 🙂

@xavvey 3 жыл бұрын

Love this regular content upload! City looks awesome!

@WuxianTec 3 жыл бұрын

I love the commuter mod! It's so brilliant at recognizing infrastructure / public transit issues. The Bike/Pedestrian path is equally great, definitely gonna get me to start a new city.

@N1troki11er 3 жыл бұрын

Really been enjoying your content, would love to play cities skyline thanks to you're videos, unfortunately don't have access to my computer right now but will be buying this once I'm able to move my computer to my new home, keep up the great work biffa!

@SteveSwags 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! My University name suggestion was chosen! Thanks, Biffa!

@danthiel8623 3 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to make a trip down memory lane and then see everything that happened so far

@trevorkorber 3 жыл бұрын

I've heard biffa use the word finagling so many times but never knew the definition. Googled it and I am very happy to have it in my list of vocabulary

@draigaur9543 3 жыл бұрын

Simple but effective fix , nice !

@Stemtastic 3 жыл бұрын

7:40 you see the carry a coffin to the hearse from the park. I definitely laughed, random detail

@wilfreddv 3 жыл бұрын

KZfaq randomly recommended Biffa to me, and now I'm addicted to Cities Skylines again D:

@peewypeabody4284 3 жыл бұрын

22:15 Heya Biffa! You should rebuild that intersection so that the monorail can move straight through and not have to make an S-Turn. Let the cars coming from the roundabout stop and turn.

@jeffsmarques1 3 жыл бұрын

i've comented this in the video that you build the Spartea University, but for some reason my comment disapear :( . If you use the touch this mod, you can change the paths of your vanilla assets, this way they will match your custom parks and feel like it's part of the same build. I love your videos, it gives me a lot of inspiration for my cities as well.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :-)

@bruh666 3 жыл бұрын

I love how busy and efficient the transfer area is

@MajorHickE 3 жыл бұрын

This is a really good example of how the game uses mass transit and how to make the routes efficient enough that cims will use them. Going to have to look at my current city and see if there are any routes I need to shorten or double up on.

@sillvvasensei 3 жыл бұрын

Biffa's landscaping the streets now. A true pro

@reneschneiderAustralia 3 жыл бұрын

Biffa, it is nice that you put the metro station next to the stadium. It does make sense :)

@ArticBlade11 3 жыл бұрын

Looks awesome mate

@NicoRTM 3 жыл бұрын

Love your city Biffa, you should rearrange your bus lines, organize them in local lines (short lines that go along a district with many stops) and interdistrict lines that go along many districts with fewer stops (the interdistrict lines could be replaced with metro/train/monorail if too much people is using it).

@SteveSwags 3 жыл бұрын

That monorail station design actually fits in with the stadium's architectural design pretty well!

@PabloBD 3 жыл бұрын

love the public transport episodes!!!

@clnetrooper 3 жыл бұрын

I really like to use underground metro when my bus lines aren't keeping up. Easy to pop in and i don't have to get rid of useful roads, like bike roads or roads with trees. Otherwise i would use tramway more often.

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

I think Biffa has mentioned that he considers metro the easy way out because well, it is. He prefers to finagle with more challenging approaches.

@clnetrooper 3 жыл бұрын

@@kaltaron1284 Well, anything that is underground can be considered the easy way out. But i take a lot of time to craft my cities, i don't want to rebuild half of it. Especially when i place down all of the buildings myself.

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

@@clnetrooper Fair enough, I can totally understand it. And you are right that underground roads are often (mis-)used in the same way. Although those seem to have a tendency to make matters worse if Biffa's fix videos are anything to go by. (They probably aren't.)

@edewaal97 3 жыл бұрын

In reality it's hard to put in, because you have to dig a trench. And remove everything that is on top of it (houses, roads, cables, waterlines etc). In the game you can just make a tunnel wherever.

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

@@edewaal97 Depending on the kind of soil you have, it should be possible to dig the tunnels without removing existing infrastructure but then you will probably have to go deeper and it will be expensive and slow anyway.

@divine91177 3 жыл бұрын

Hope your doing well from your procedure. Been loving the new city. :)

@violettiplady3113 3 жыл бұрын

I always get my girl to bed and soon after bam an episode to watch always yay

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy :-)

@mgunter 3 жыл бұрын

Move the Teasny Land bus stop to under the monorail. They may just pick the bus because it's right there. Still haven't fixed the parking lots at the stadium being connected with other parking lots.

@TheRogueBro 3 жыл бұрын

It seems the Pedestrian AI has a preference walking>biking>bus>etc. Can't comment on his test method, but Seniac did a little test of this about 6 months ago. I won't link it, but it's called "ALL TRANSPORT SYSTEMS WHICH IS PREFERED in CITIES SKYLINES". Obviously distance plays a very big role in their decision making as well

@bazzakrak 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm Biffa. You are talking about your "Teasny World Shuttle" at around 37:00 and you can't seem to figure out why it has around 300 passengers. But I do believe you are looking at it to narrow, you are only looking on the same island. If you look at 37:21 you can see that some, if not alot, of the passengers you can't seem to figure out where are going, are using it to get to your train/ferry and go over to your mainland island, you can see all the nice red icons at the bottom as you quickly turn the camera at 37:21 So even with your extra monorail station and path, you will still have lots of pasengers at that specific stop

@diegoschmocker 3 жыл бұрын

Yo biffa, great one again💪 i think a walking path between the trainstadion and the cabs would be very usefull so those people dont need to go to the corner out there, you know something that you also can swiftify later😎

@diegoschmocker 3 жыл бұрын

Nevermind, you actualy did already something cool

@Wiwerest 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Biffs your city is missing some fence near roundabout where Spartea was having a walk. Also, have a nice day and keep going, your films are amazing.

@_zer09_ 3 жыл бұрын

woot! nice timing!

@dlwatib 3 жыл бұрын

"all these different transit options." You always forget about cable cars, Biffa. I saw several places where you could have used them. It's nice to see someone using monorails, so thank you for that. But cable cars get no love and they're really the coolest public transport option available.

@reinerjung1613 3 жыл бұрын

You could extend the monorail to the industry side and then only use the red bus over there running in a circle. Also the green one could go from the bus hub to the amusement park and another line in the opposite direction. Or as an alternative make a road crossing over the highway and let the bus connect the side with the unique building (forgot the name, sorry) over the highway with the industry area. True that would result in an less used bus hub. (BTW lovely video)

@kacper3400 3 жыл бұрын

Orelando Heights looks like a good spot to build a monorail over the main 4-lane road and connect it to the new monorail you built in this episode 🙂

@maxvanhelden8500 3 жыл бұрын

you are my favorite cities skylines creater

@lankypanda1 3 жыл бұрын

hay biffa another great video i think the monorail is cool but in my eyes i probs would of gone with the underground tube just so the roads and things don't look to cluttered also would be easy to hook up to other parts of newtealand but this is just me. Again another brilliant video Biffa

@DocNo27 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video and way to start my morning - thanks :) If you have bus lines parallel other lines, as you found out most of them will still insist on taking the bus. So don't do that! Roadway hierarchy? Transportation hierarchy! Use your monorail as the backbone, then have local bus loops that just go from the monorail stop to the local destinations. All you youtubers make these ridiculously long bus routes! Local loops - not marathon loops! Don't bridge multiple mass transit stops with a single bus route or they will bypass the mass transit.

@RamblinRick_ 3 жыл бұрын

Just noticed something in the base game from this video; the game uses physics for vehicles. That is, at 7:47, we see a vcehicle come to a stop at the new crossing. The vehicle slams on the brakes, and the vehicle rocks forward-and-back, due to the sudden stop. Any other game would simple stop the vehicle. Yes, I've seen the water physics. I'd not really noticed vehicle physics.

@tejasvkamboj6623 3 жыл бұрын

Build a nature reserve 🌴🌳🌲

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

I'd say lets wait till he has all the tiles then he can turn the whole central mountain range into one.

@StacheMan26 3 жыл бұрын

That small roundabout next to your university stadium really out to be upgraded to a road with sidewalks and cycle paths, because as it is it cuts the stadium off from the rest of the campus via those methods (unless they want to go down to the big roundabout and back up, but still).

@RougeEric 3 жыл бұрын

37:44 Create a beach-side path with a floating restaurant or something. It will bring foot traffic to both areas, and you can easily just go around the big roundabout.

@skullwidget6958 3 жыл бұрын

22:00 you could change the 90 degree turn into a off-road rail for the monorail and maybe even go behind the buildings till you reach the amusement park

@Styrestian 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great city! I just love the details. How about a double decker bus?

@bapt1 3 жыл бұрын

That move it mod makes all the difference in how a city looks between console and pc

@Geschrotteten 3 жыл бұрын

i think that stadium is still missing a big parking lot, i mean it looks like thered be a lot of carowners fitting in there :P

@TheKloro 3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@gplusytCRST 3 жыл бұрын

It's so big, it's probably a drive in stadium :D

@ArrowProds 3 жыл бұрын

Case study: Optus Stadium in Perth, ~80% of crowds on an AFL match day (full capacity is 60,000 people, so around 56,000-ish people) leave via public transport through a 22-stand bus station or 6-platform purpose-built train station. This shows that you don't need to have a ton of carparks to move people efficiently to/from big events, however the transport network has to be purpose-built to handle crowds. That's a downfall of the stadium in New Tealand, where there's not enough space to design a tailored transport solution.

@chrisbeveridge6891 3 жыл бұрын

Car owners you could charge entry and exit from!

@Devlonir 3 жыл бұрын

@@ArrowProds Johan Cruyff Arena in Amsterdam has the same thing. It has underground parking under it and some overflow parking in the area, but the arena itself is mostly surrounded by pedestrian areas with a major station right next to it and tons of transit options nearby. And those service both the stadium and the concert hall Ziggo Dome right down the lane. The city also uses Park&Ride as an option, so people can park outside the city near public transit hubs and use the transit to get to the stadium. Big parking areas around stadiums are not a must, and I love Biffa didn't go for it!

@JediTev 3 жыл бұрын

That Metro station you used is one of the new ones. It has to have a cross street to snap too. I used it my first metro line. It's perfect for its location. A light rail line, Expo center, plenty of bus lines, and a train station. All walking distance.

@moreautravel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Biffa!

@alexcjoyce 3 жыл бұрын

Link up the quay between the two areas with the new walkable quay and I’m sure loads of people would walk from the theme park to the transport hub along the river

@ratchet1freak 3 жыл бұрын

22:2 there is no need for the rail to follow the road like that, make the rail cut that corner, which would also make the monorail not slow down on that corner like it does

@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын

I was also think it didn't make any sense to follow the road to Teasney Park at all. Cutting along the coast would have made more sense IMHO. Unless Biffa has planned something for that space.