Big 12 TV Ratings BREAKDOWN

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@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

Check out our Big 12 Channel: youtube.com/@Big12VOCFB Big Ten TV Ratings: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btGXeZSGksnDoWg.html ACC TV Ratings: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdmZd9Se08mUZ4E.html

@2017NationalChamps 6 ай бұрын

Can't wait for next season. Everyone has a chance to win the league.

@sarahmccoy1941 6 ай бұрын

Everyone always has had a chance to win the league. There were just some teams that were much better than others.

@cjon3006 6 ай бұрын

Who will be watching the B12?... 1) B12 fans are watching B12 football. 2) College Football fans that are interested in watching a completely unpredictable mosh-pit of 6-10 teams - with great players, coaches and insane fan bases 3) Every week the B12 will have 4 great games, in 4 time windows (that actually have an impact the conf title game) Its going to be awesome. Tune in and find out.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

I will. Just don't know how many others will.

@sarahmccoy1941 6 ай бұрын

I prefer watching the best athletes go at each other in the SEC and the B1G.

@professorfinesser4322 5 ай бұрын

@@sarahmccoy1941 yea iowa goign for 7 points in 4 quarters is ecstatic. one day you will learn to think for yourself rather than do what the tv and internet tells you to do

@TerrySleuth 6 ай бұрын

Lifelong Sooner fan here and I'll still watch them but I'm sticking with the Big 12 for other games to view

@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 6 ай бұрын

WELCOME TO THE OHIO STATE PROPAGANDA CHANNEL WITH YOUR HOST CAPTAIN B.S. ARTIST

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

Call my next show and let me have it. Of course you won’t because you’re a coward.

@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 6 ай бұрын

@@MarkRogersVOCFBdont ban me or delete my comments...will see how brave you are...

@HawaiianBro808 6 ай бұрын

@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3rexposing the truth. He's a wuss & couldn't handle a real debate.

@adam-thesportsguy6147 6 ай бұрын

We’re 2 years away from the ACC/SEC/B1G claiming you can’t have a playoff with the BIG XII getting an auto bid. We’re 0 years away from the SEC-B1G claiming you can’t have a playoff with the ACC/BIG XII getting auto bids.

@JohnDry 6 ай бұрын

Soon the ACC will be renamed the Magnolia conference since the Ivy league pays thier players, and have more money than the B10, and the SEC combined without Texas. I see a P4, but the ACC has to be raided by the P3 first. Lol the B10 will be a jr collage compared to the Magnolia conference!

@toddgwinn8395 6 ай бұрын

Crazy to think that USC gamecocks at LSU wbb had more viewership than than the majority of big 12 football. Wbb had 1.56 million views

@harrylegge4898 6 ай бұрын

Not crazy at all, two large Fanbases that turn out.

@sarahmccoy1941 6 ай бұрын

It’s the SEC baby!

@joeyfosterWVU 6 ай бұрын

What gets me is how everyone looks at these numbers. When talking Big XII you use the entire conference and talk about how bad we are either in TV numbers, Fan Attached, or football in general. Then you say the SEC and B1G are leaps ahead but you'll look at OSU, MICHIGAN, GEORGIA, BAMA and use them as rule of thumb for their conference. Take out those 4 teams and you would pretty much have equal viewership with the Big XII when your comparing them to Indiana, Illinois, Arkansas, Tennessee and Vandy.... If we are only going to look at the top 2-3 programs in each conference then I agree, SEC & B1G are better.... But we can't let 5 or 6 teams define college football and I feel like that's what the media wants.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

Not true. The SEC & Big Ten teams get better numbers top to bottom. Secondly, the top tier teams are the ones that drive the revenue, so it would be stupid to take them out of the equation.

@joeyfosterWVU 6 ай бұрын

@@MarkRogersVOCFB not saying to take them out of the equation..... Just more numbers count than the top teams. So look at Arkansas but don't count games against Georgia or BAMA.... Count Illinois but not numbers against OSU or Michigan etc.... Then you will see, top to bottom, roughly the same.....

@jerodjones1771 6 ай бұрын

@@joeyfosterWVU Big 12 numbers will get a bump next year with Texas & Oklahoma leaving as they almost always took the spots on ABC/ESPN/FOX. For example, Kansas/Kansas St drew 869K on FS1. If that game is on ABC/FOX/ESPN this coming year, it’ll break 1M easily. But that is also what happens with the B1G teams outside of Ohio St/Michigan. Those 2 are always the FOX/CBS/NBC games. The best way to compare is when the lesser B1G & Big 12 teams play each other on the OTA’s. Same for SEC & ACC

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

@@joeyfosterWVU I include everyone in these breakdowns. It's not close.

@CarlAdams-lc6oz 6 ай бұрын

Who are you trying to convince?

@tortolabvi8498 6 ай бұрын

UH football's first full season in the Big 12 faced direct/indirect competition from the Astros and Texans for viewership. The baseball team was in the midst of another playoff run to repeat as World Series Championships, while the Texans, with their rookie QB CJ Strout and head coach DeMeco Ryans, attracted much local and national attention. Texas and Texas A&M, with alums and campuses in Houston, definitely impacted the cougar's ability to move the needle. The UH-Texas game, for example, achieved respectable viewership and attendance due to these factors. If Houston puts a better product on the field and rises to be at the middle of the pack or the top of the Big 12, local support and TV viewership will come. According to the sports media reports, the Jamal Shead-led UH basketball team attracts large home crowds and has reasonable viewership rates. It is nationally ranked and sits atop the Big 12. Hence, this is the playbook for the UH football in 2025.

@fwilliamcony28 2 ай бұрын

When WVU v PSU attracted a viewership of 3.5 million fans, the game was televised on NBC network TV. Likewise, a couple weeks later, when WVU v Pitt had a viewership of 2.5+ million fans, the game was televised on network TV. On the other hand, when WVU played some Big XII games that were only streamed on ESPN+ for pay, the viewership substantially decreased. Games on network TV or regular cable such as ESPN or FOX cannot be compared to games that are only streamed for pay. The Big XII must consider investing in a channel and the same type of cable broadcasting available to the BIG, SEC and ACC fans.

@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 6 ай бұрын

I wish this disingenuous ohio state fan would get lost and stick to his own conference. Total underhanded channel with an agenda pretending to be legit....smh

@lawrencechase754 5 ай бұрын

Interesting though highly unlikely: a conference composed of academically strong schools. It would look something like this: Duke, Virginia, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Boston College, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Stanford, Cal, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Rice, UCLA, Wisconsin, and Texas. A fun thought experiment; membership status in elite exposure and a recruitment tool to attract well-rounded students. Have I excluded any worthy prospective members?

@jamesbrann935 6 ай бұрын

Congratulations on doing your part to ruin College football-great job!

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

An explanation would be appropriate, rather than spewing vague nonsense.

@HawaiianBro808 6 ай бұрын

@@MarkRogersVOCFByou know exactly what you're doing. You want the Blue Bloods only and it's obvious. College football is about rivalries, regionalism, tradition. Media heads like you spin the narrative everyday to be about blue bloods only. When I was in the military in SERE school survival evasion we had a Psyops portion where you had to convince locals with propaganda and act oblivious, you end up getting captured and beat down...Unfortunately most media people are just scumbags and don't get humbled by a beating.

@edwardmartinez6401 6 ай бұрын

I have friends that are Texas & OU fans & we only watched other the big 12 games because we wanted to see where we stand. Hook’em. \m/.

@Mike-sp7zv 6 ай бұрын

Do a top 10 controversies video between Ohio State and the wolverines

@DanielBennigsdorf-ll5pc 6 ай бұрын

I’d be curious if you were to breakdown the channels the big 12 games are played on vs other conferences. Because the big 12 teams that remain rarely get placed on ABC and Fox. When you are comparing numbers for games played on ESPN2 and FS1 vs numbers for other conferences played on the primary channel it is obvious why the ratings are lower. Your analysis is lacking at best, I’d call it misleading.

@theserkiller3730 6 ай бұрын

A good context would be which channel the game was on. ALOT of those games were on the Fox Sports 1 channel, which has low viewership compared to the other networks.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

We do that as well. Check out the previous series from previous years. We will hit it again this year if people want that.

@philiprobins5488 6 ай бұрын

Good information. Thanks

@stripes497 6 ай бұрын

The TV Ratings are an indicator of consumer demand. Basically, consumer demand forThe Big Twelve Football Games is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY LOW compared to BOTH The SEC AND BIG TEN!! That's WHY The Big Twelve DOES NOT COMMAND A Lucrative Television Contract. If The Big Twelve wants to have more TV revenue, It WILL NEED to have an increase in fan attendance and TV viewership. Otherwise, it's POINTLESS for the broadcasting companies to invest their resources in televising the games BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!!!

@mrmonkeysays 6 ай бұрын

Data is irrelevant without context. You have to relate this data with channel and time provided. FS1 and espn+ numbers will ALWAYS lag Tier 1 channels. espn+ is not even a fair comparison. And it's too simple minded to just pull OU and UT out, projecting forward, because those games also got the premier timeslots.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

I do that. Every year. I’ve stated that. Hang in there.

@mrmonkeysays 6 ай бұрын

@@MarkRogersVOCFB But you should do it up front. Why put bad data out there? This is just a mess on its own, and you're already drawing conclusions before actually comparing apples to apples for the Big 12 vs other conferences. I'd venture to say all those really low numbers are on FS1 or espn+.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

@@mrmonkeysays No ESPN+ included.

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

a) Looks like you did take TX/OK games out unless playing a new BIG12 team. That inflates the viewership some (likely material), but not as much if all included. b) To be fair, once TX/OK leave, the upper middle competitors will move into the better time/channel slots mandated by the media deals. c) Dion clearly inflated these numbers, which is unlikely to continue at that level. d) How many BIG12 games had no published ratings?

@virgilharden9227 5 ай бұрын

HE does not say anything about the ACC . I know why .

@professorfinesser4322 6 ай бұрын

i mean if you put these games on same time as Ohio State-Nebraksa then give the SEC thier own slot then of course you get numbers like this. Although the top 2 definitely draw on their own regardless the TV networks do no favors for the Big 12 in pushing content outside Texas and Oklahoma

@user-zj6gm2jz1m Ай бұрын

The TV time slots has a lot to do with the tv ratings as well as how a team is doing. If the Big 12 gets good time slots with good games they will do well even with losing Texas & Oklahoma. PAC 12 did terrible because they had terrible time slots.

@MarkRogersVOCFB Ай бұрын

Regardless of time slots, the Big 12 will take a beating without Oklahoma and Texas. Colorado will slightly offset it with Deion for now.

@professorfinesser4322 5 ай бұрын

14:02 "The Big 12 is the least watched conference by far and has been for some time" is such lazy and braindead take wow 2021 Conference Championships Viewership: SEC - 15.3M, B1G - 11.6M, Big 12 - 8M (without Texas or OU), Pac 12 - 4M, AAC - 3.4M, ACC - 2.6M (without Clemson or FSU) 2021 Total Conference Inventorty Viewership: B1G - 205M, SEC - 156M, Big 12 - 90M, Pac 12 - 65M, AAC - 25M 2022 Conference Championship Viewership: SEC - 10.8M, B1G - 10.7M, Big 12 - 9.4M (without Texas or OU), Pac 12 - 5.9M (including USC), ACC - 3.4M (including Clemson) That statement is unequivocally false and has never been the case over any meaningful stretch of time. And the Pac 12 has undoubtedly been the worst performing Power 5 conference throughout the entire CFP era but why bother to speak the truth when you can just retcon facts with recency bias because most people dont have the time to research whatever nonsense your regurgitating. Continue to push whatever narrative youre pushing but do not hide it under the guise of honest journalism when its just more of the same shameless bootlicking of the powers that be as every other wannabe pundit that pretends to have the overall wellbeing of the sport in mind. The SEC and B1G do not need you to try and bring down other connferences for them to shine, trust me, they are doing fine regardless.

@paulluebke8692 6 ай бұрын

As someone growing up in Iowa, I was exposed to plenty of Big Ten action and plenty of Big 8/12 action. I tried to watch both but, The Big Ten was almost always a more boring product. I felt like only alumni of Big Ten schools would watch that stuff but, even if that were the case, Big Ten schools have a large alumni base.

@bartscanland9415 6 ай бұрын

You left out K-State at Missouri in week 3 unless SEC network doesn’t count.

@terryfox9344 6 ай бұрын

No need to consider playing the Big XII's best and most watched rivalry game every year (hint, if you haven't guessed, it's Farmageddon!). . Heck, that New York City Commish who has never seen a farm might schedule it once every 10 years. Who needs TV ratings?

@KegOpetator 3 ай бұрын

So. Are you trying to depants the big 12? B1G and SEC have a lot of teams that don’t even hit the 1/4 mil mark.

@MarkRogersVOCFB 3 ай бұрын

I’m presenting data.

@225JAYY 6 ай бұрын

The hate on Colorado is insane

@MarkRogersVOCFB 6 ай бұрын

The hate and the love. It's of course more about Deion. That's why so many people watch.

@CarlAdams-lc6oz 6 ай бұрын

What you fail to mention is that Oklahoma and Texas got the best network windows so of course they always have the best ratings in the conference. You are comparing ABC and Fox to FS1 and ESPN2. This was actually discussed in the Big 12's contract negotiations. The ratings are artificially suppressed.

@michaelwall3393 6 ай бұрын

No they are not. The ratings are what they are. The games ACC have that are not counted because on ACCN and then the Spectrum fiasco suppresses their media numbers but not Big12. I have tried to tell all the Big12 bigots and hypocrites about the reality of the situation, and the fact they conjure up their own narrative about ratings and such these past few years and not keeping it legitimate shows how much they are wrong and not as viewed and valued as they claim. The AAC and SBC have more leverage and legitimacy in media coverage suppression than the Big12.

@eujr4SC 6 ай бұрын

But it wasn't really discussed. The Big12 renewed its previous contract. They most likely will be taking over the PAC-12's "After Dark" timeslot going forward outside of maybe a few B1G games that happen on the west coast. Fox isn't putting Oklahoma State vs WVU on Big Noon on 10/5 when they have UCLA-Penn State, USC-Minnesota, and Ohio State-Iowa to choose from. ESPN isn't putting them on ABC or maybe not even ESPN that week when there's Auburn-Georgia, or Tennessee-Arkansas. Florida plays UCF that weekend so maybe they'll get on ESPN.

@michaelwall3393 6 ай бұрын

So you deleted my comment you coward. That figures. The media numbers are not suppressed.

@michaelwall3393 6 ай бұрын

The ratings were not suppressed.

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

@@michaelwall3393 To be fair, TX/OK (deservedly and understandably) getting better time/channels does inflate viewership relative to other BIG12 members if the slots were reversed. Nevertheless, the same thing happens in other conferences, including the ACC with which BIG12 fans now so often compare. Moreover, I believe ratings are available for the referenced FS! and ESPN2 while unavailable for the ACCN. If those ratings were published, the difference would most likely be even greater.

@shawnandrews329 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your hard work, Mark. It was very interesting and much appreciated.

@hcopenhagenh 6 ай бұрын

I have never turned on the TV to watch a Big 12 game.

@jonathanwrehe8015 6 ай бұрын

Well then you should if you like competitive football

@hcopenhagenh 6 ай бұрын

@@jonathanwrehe8015 competitive, not good.

@jonathanwrehe8015 6 ай бұрын

@@hcopenhagenh big 12 has the most teams that have won a by6 bowl game since it started. Obviously teams can compete. In 2021 3 teams finished top 10 ok state Baylor and ou and TCU just beat undefeated Michigan last year who went undefeated again this year. It’s the most fun conference to stage by far and it will be even better with Utah Arizona and Colorado

@hcopenhagenh 6 ай бұрын

@@jonathanwrehe8015 bowl games after the playoffs are only exhibitions at this point. No one cares. TCU was destroyed by UGA and should have never been in the playoffs. The Big12 is not a good football conference and hasn't been for some while.

@professorfinesser4322 5 ай бұрын

guess its just you then

@trfisher51 6 ай бұрын

The numbers are the numbers. Last year TCU had great numbers, this year they dropped off, like their team. As far as the other conferences, they have blue blood programs that carry everyone else and if any B12 team was in their conference they would have similar if not better numbers. The B12 has a number of good programs but no great powerhouses. Everyone knows that and that is why the SEC and B10 are compensated the way they are and the B12 is compensated the way they are. I think eventually the 40-50 best programs are going to break away in football and do their own thing. If that happens there will be 5 or so B12 schools in it and a high number of B10 and even some SEC schools will not be a part of it.

@jerodjones1771 6 ай бұрын

No B1G or SEC teams will be put out if there’s a breakaway. Not sure why people keep thinking this.

@trfisher51 6 ай бұрын

@@jerodjones1771 sure dude. TV people want Rutgers and others cause they have massive TV ratings and have a culture of winning.

@jerodjones1771 6 ай бұрын

@@trfisher51 No one cares. Once the SEC & B1G combines, Rutgers would will never be on the main channel anyways. Ohio St, Michigan, USC, Bama, Georgia, LSU, Penn State, Texas, Oregon, Oklahoma, Washington, Tennessee, Auburn, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Iowa, Florida, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Michigan State, Missouri, will take all the main slots. There’s Noon, 3:30, 7:00pm games. 6 teams needed weekly to fill those slots. I just gave you 21 teams. We’ll also be adding Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia. Like I said, no one is getting kicked out from the B1G or SEC.

@trfisher51 6 ай бұрын

@@jerodjones1771 maybe. I am talking about the top 40-60 programs breaking away, football only. There is no need for conferences and those bottom feeders would be replaced by programs who care about football and have built a brand. Teams like Utah, TCU, KSU, and others.

@jerodjones1771 6 ай бұрын

@@trfisher51Kansas State? They are the 20th all time losingest program in college football. They ain’t gettin in. Small market, small state. No chance. There are 34 teams in the BIG & SEC right now. Once they grab Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, that will be the 40 that break away. I don’t like it but that’s how it will be

@michaelwall3393 6 ай бұрын

The Big12 is not as valuable as they claim and not viewed like they thought. Furthermore, the games against Texas and Oklahoma are not the only games affected by having Texas and Oklahoma in the conference. Big12 is not garbage but not as good as they claim. Numbers are not suppressed as certain clowns 🤡 claim and think. The Big12 claims by being viewed on multiple platforms and networks that aids in their value and ratings. But that is not true. By the way the majority of their television ratings and rights are with ESPN. Yet they struggle to get great numbers. Adding the PAC schools should help but the viewers’ ratings should be about the same and hopefully a little better but could be worse. None of my comments are incorrect or inaccurate or inappropriate. You just don’t like them for those who read them. I don’t like cowards.

@professorfinesser4322 5 ай бұрын

and the pac learned they were even less valuable than the Big 12 when they tried to ask for superior money, and the ACC championship ratings without FSU look much much worse than the Big 12 championships without Texas/OU

@JohnDry 6 ай бұрын

Plus all of Mexico will watch the B12 in every sport. The B12 will break away in all sports soon! Especially if 4-6 ACC schools join the B12 !!!

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

Delusional.

@JohnDry 6 ай бұрын

@@tarheel7406 Says a Tarheel fan , the Tarheals athletes getting are paid less than the Texas Tech athletes. Especially football. Remember we were in the SWC. Wich was a power house before the SEC. It's like moonshine we were before our time. We can pay our players more than NC even if NC goes to the other 2 P3s. Every former SWC school can, and BYU. Why do you think SMU can pay thier way int9 the ACC? You must not know the SWC history. The SEC before the SEC. Who were the qbs in the past super bowls?

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

@@JohnDry TXTECH currently pays its athletes? American football isn't popular internationally. One of the reasons why California is a declining market for same is due to residents fleeing and being replaced with foreign immigrants. The SWC died for being too Texas. UNC is old money and can easily deal with financial pressures. Moreover, the ACC is projected to pay more than the new BIG12 even with its "terrible" deal. The BIG12 is the option of last resort, a realignment walk of shame. The BIG12 would have to pay ~$10M more per member to pull ACC members, something very unlikely.

@JohnDry 6 ай бұрын

@@tarheel7406 It may happen. Not like smu. Calford, BC, Saracuse, and WF helps y'all make more money? It drags yall down. Iowa St, and Kansas is better than all of those schools in every sport. Along with everyone else in the B12. Didn't yall go 4-4 on conference? Lmao

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

@@JohnDry Did you watch the video? You are delusional. Every sport? STANFORD has the best overall athletics department in the NCAA, and CAL is a lite blue on that factor. The BIG12 is by far the worst overall athletic conference of the P4. Just amazing. CALFORD would rather pay to play in the ACC than get a full share in the BIG12. BTW... For this viewership topic, data availability is material, and the ACCN does not publish ratings. For instance, half of UNC's games were on the ACCN so weren't counted for a ranking of most viewed: 02 - ABC 06 - ACCN 03 - ESPN 01 - CW

@wetblanket1977 6 ай бұрын

The Big 12 should just abandon football

@joeyfosterWVU 6 ай бұрын

Sure Wetblanket, I bet you really believe that lol ... Maybe 3rd place and back SEC and B1G programs should do the same? Replace Vandy with Oklahoma State and the numbers for SEC go up, replace Rutgers with WVU and B1G numbers go up..... Just go through the SEC and B1G and take teams out and replace them with a Big XII team and the numbers would either stay the same or go up .... Especially up in more cases..... Which would you rather watch, Tenn vs Arkansas or Tenn vs WVU? How about K-Stare vs Miss State or Vandy vs Miss State? Who would you watch? So the Big XII can hold it's own.... Maybe less money but still better teams than most in the other conferences....

@shallojalloh 6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@dariusrucker7854 6 ай бұрын

No, it's honestly the most entertaining league in the country. Far more interesting than watching Georgia /Alabama / LSU dominate the SEC and Michigan / Ohio State dominate the Big 10 again.

@shallojalloh 6 ай бұрын

@dariusrucker7854 | ur joking right? Lol lol u gotta be. Please. Tell me more about this entertaining league. What games? If it's so entertaining.. why are they the least watched league in major college ball? More than 15 million fewer than the ACC. We both know the answer..but please. Tell me lol

@stacyr3456 6 ай бұрын

Nice troll kid

@scotevans3672 6 ай бұрын

GO POKES!!!

@nickinportland 6 ай бұрын

2:50 Tech brought in 1.43 against Wyoming. That was all us, so how do you figure Oregon brought all of the views the next game? Doesn’t add up bro.

@adam-thesportsguy6147 6 ай бұрын

Outside of the “Deion Traveling Clown Show”…no one cares about watching BIG XII football anymore. Anyone arguing the BIG XII is the 3rd best conference is football ignorant. The ACC is far and away better at the top and that’s what matters. If you made every ACC and BIG XII program available Miami/FSU/Clemson would be the first 3 taken in some order.

@jonathanwrehe8015 6 ай бұрын

Other way around actually. The big 12 is so much deeper and more interesting to watch than Clemson or fsu dominating the acc

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

a) Ignoring ND, UNC/UVA are the top targets for both the SEC and B1G due to relative value. CLEMSON, etc. would be the top targets of the BIG12. b) Agreed, the current/new ACC is far better than the new BIG12 on any material factor.

@jonathanwrehe8015 6 ай бұрын

@@tarheel7406 notre dame is not in acc for football which is driving this.

@tarheel7406 6 ай бұрын

@@jonathanwrehe8015 ND has a binding scheduling agreement and a "must join" if agreement on top of the exit fees/GOR for non-football. The point of your reply?

@professorfinesser4322 5 ай бұрын

except the Big 12 conference championships without Texas or OU always double the ACC championship game even with Clemson. But umm okay sure lol, you would know this is you werent a Miami fan and knew what a conference championship setting looked like. Ok State vs Baylor in 2021 - 8 million viewers, Pitt vs Wake - 2.6 million viewers 💀even the AAC championship game Cincinnati vs Houston (two now Big 12 teams) - 3.4 million viewers, outdrew the ACC. and again in 2022 without Texas or Oklahoma, K-State vs TCU - 9.4 million viewers outdrew the ACC again Clemson vs UNC - 3.4 million viewers and thats with one of your top brands playing. But sure lets all pretend like the cfb world is lining up to watch Syracuse, Wake Forest, Boston College, Virginia, Georgia Tech and NC State do whatever it is they do lol, and again no one has to worry about Miami's brand because all they have been is a hypothetical what if since joining that conference.