Editing to say that I don't have a strong opinion about the last places, currently I don't think Giselle should be last. "Average" refers to the average skill level to be able to dance kpop choreo without major problems, not to the average skill level in the industry.

i honestly am astounded by how well wendy bounced back from her injury like. she took the year to heal and came back and is absolutely crushing

Almost every idol has tried it, and I've seen countless people's covers, but to this day I feel like Momo is the only one that has been able to recreate perfectly the magic of Taemin's choreo for Move. I was so floored when I saw that cover that I had to look up who that member was, look at all her dancing videos, start simping for her, and I haven't looked back since

Seulgi is honestly such an inspiration; she joined SM with a focus on singing, but she worked so hard and is now one of the best dancers in her industry. Her style and effort is so captivating, and she always seems to be enjoying every moment of it. I hope everyone can come to appreciate her skill and that she can go even further in her career

Momo is so shy,funny and conservative but when she's on stage you'll see how much passionate she has in dancing,she dances like a monster that will eat anything in her path🔥

God, it really shows just how insane the talent is in the 3rd gen trio from the Big 3. Red Velvet, TWICE, and BLACKPINK continue to astound me

Finally!! I agree with Seulgi now that I pay attention to it but I still love her style the most. Didn't expect Chaeyoung to be high up,and Jihyo is so inspiring

Thank you for this really, I’ve been extremely perplexed why all the sudden Irene has been labeled one of the worst dancers in the industry seemingly overnight where her positive attributes just suddenly disappeared. I agree that she’s lacking in certain areas and isn’t a standout dancer compared to others, but she definitely deserves more respect for what she has displayed so far

Strong: 1. Momo 46:42 2. Lisa 42:49 3. Seulgi 40:57 Decent/Developed: 4. Chaeryeong 38:49 5. Ryujin 34:59 6. Yeji 33:07 (4-6 are interchangeable) 7. Jihyo 31:23 8. Yuna 29:28 Above Average 9. Karina 26:02 10. Nayeon 24:48 11. Irene 23:28 12. Sana 22:33 13. Chaeyoung 20:58 14. Winter 19:41 Average: 15. Ningning 17:40 16. Rosé 16:32 17. Wendy 14:46 18. Jennie 13:11 19. Mina 12:08 20. Tzuyu 10:54 21. Jeongyeon 9:56 22. Dahyun 8:55 Below average: 23. Yeri 7:15 24. Joy 5:56 25. Jisoo 4:53 26. Lia 2:22 27. Giselle 1:05 - I made a list and time stamp for those who wanna revise. Thank you again for making this video pretty useful for own reflection too!

When it comes to Lisa's predebut dance I believe that since her spot in bp wasnt necessarily guaranteed it was important that she should stand out especially in what she was good at (dance) thus leading her to put more emphasis in her moves so she could stand out amongst the others, but now after debuting I think making the group look more unified or something along those lines became the next most important thing as there was no longer a specific need to 'stand out' as she is now apart of a group. (this is just my opinion, i could be completely wrong). Anyways great video! Enjoyed it very much and found it quite informative even though i'm not a dancer myself.

Lisa part makes me tear up a little bit. She's so amazing, I hope later in the future she can venture out and experience more things that she likes and grow more without any restriction. Because I remember she said she enjoys her trainee life and monthly evaluation. Rather than performing to the same dance and song routines, I hope she tries more stuff that she wants to try. and hoping her love in performing never subside within her. cuz she deserves all of the glory.

i 100% agree with putting momo at number 1. while she does get a lot of recognition and praise for her dancing abilities, a lot of k-pop fans still underestimate her dancing abilities. she's definitely not an average dancer and she continues to prove that every time she goes on stage. this is simply my opinion, but she's the best dancer of the 3rd gen (and the 4th gen so far), and she's amongst some of the best dancers in k-pop. i could go on for paragraphs about how almost every aspect of her dancing is impressively close to perfect, but that would be extreme so i'll just say that her skill, talent, and technique is mind-blowing. she obviously puts a lot of effort into her dancing, but still manages to make it look so easy. her execution of almost every move is so amazing that it's hard to believe that she wasn't born with these skills. again, this is all just my opinion. i understand if anyone disagrees, because seulgi and lisa are both very talented, hardworking, and skillful dancers; it's not just momo who has talent. none of them are above each other, the effort all of them put into their dancing is incredibly impressive and they deserve all the recognition and praise they get. in conclusion, seulgi, momo, and lisa are 3 very talented women who have put an incredible amount of effort into their dancing. all 3 of them have inspired me to get back into dancing, i look up to them a lot and they never fail to amaze every time they dance.

The fact that you actually spent time paying attention to every details concerning the dancing of each girls and explained everything cleary is amazing

Wendy is monster, she injured so bad and need rest for almost 2 years. Some people say she not gonna able to dance again, but as a reveluv I really proud of her, she's really does improve alot

I definitely agree with your commentary on Lisa. I've always had a love/hate relationship with her because she was so technically good but so boring to me. For the longest time I couldn't realize why I didn't like her until one day it hit me: she never really "got into" her dances. She was always perfect with angles and facial expressions but seldom did she captivate me like Mark or taeyong from NCT. It's because she is limited by the group's image. I would LOVE to see her perform one of BP's choreo FULL out and just the way that SHE wants to. Also, it must suck to love dancing so much but be unable to go full out. If that was me, I would be so sad on stage.

i love the amount of thought & analysis that went into this & have learnt so much about different facets of dance thru this! would love to see a big 3/4 male version if u are able to do it in the future ^3^

What you said about Karina having to step up to become the main dancer of the group it’s actually true, the main dancer of aespa was supposed to be another trainee called Hina but she didn’t make it to the group 😢 with aespa it’s obvious that some of the members were “rushed” to improve and become the current position they have in the group (giselle&karina) because of the constant change of line up for Aespa before debut

The sad thing about Yeri is that she lost a lot of self-esteem and joy (when it comes to performing) when she was being bullied in her early days of joining Red Velvet. I think that has unfortunately continued to hold her back. I really enjoy seeing her perform though nowadays, she has a very unique youthful energy.

Irene's attention to detail with hand movements is something that has always caught my eye. I'm glad to see it mentioned here! She definitely makes the hand movements seem easy lol

Everytime i watch Momo's fancams in Twice's comeback stages her dance is really sharp like thunder, but in the dance videos she posted on ig she's so smooth and groovy. Her duality is 🔥

the way that you mentioned lia’s physical body feature of straight shoulders at 3:56 intriguiged me, and i actually agree. it’s made me think about another particular female idol who i noticed has a feature which really affects her dance quality. from what i can tell choi yujin of clc, now kep1er, has extremely collapsed arches. her leg placements are always affected by this, and she often executes moves incorrectly with her knees together. i was wondering if anyone else has noticed it - i’d be really interested it you did a video on idols whose body posture and placement is their main issue when dancing.

*Yuna* at 8 + the "she is on the level as some main dancers in the industry" made me really happy, she deserves more appreciation for her dancing in my opinion. Fans often leave her out of Itzy's dance line while she has a lead dancer position. And she started from zero, she once said that she couldn't even clap to the beat before she started training. And thank you for ranking *Jennie* correctly and not calling her a bad dancer like most kpop stans just because she lacks consistency and energy somtimes. She truly has some potential but sadly has to fight with a weak body. Great and fair video overall! :)

Jihyo and Wendy deserve this all. I haven’t seen many people talk about how good Wendy had become recently, you could easily mistake her for center these days. She’s clearly always having fun and has improved so much from the injury. Both Wendy and Jihyo are insane to have as role models, and they’re both mine. Jihyo has worked SO hard for this and jyp still keeps her back during dance breaks and doesn’t let her showcase her dance as much (like now, during solo world tour stages). Crown was such a gift. Her solo debut better be exactly what we expect from her and what she expects herself, insane choreo and insane vocals (and even rap, she’s pretty nice at it).

As someone who not train as a dancer I'm very proud of how great Kang seulgi right now. she's so versatile and i believe she's still growing up as a dancer. She still honing her skill. And i can't wait for more surprise from her. One of my wish that SM can let her shine with her dancing.

Yoooo why is yeri SPINNING 😂😂😂😂 she like I got this one move that’s gonna killem

I knew it Chaeryeong's hips don't lie! I never get it when people tell that she didn't dance that well compared to the other Ryu and Yeji. But each have their strength and particularly I like Chae's feminine approach. Ps. I want to see Chae and Sana duet in a dance, it will be ultra sexy imo lol

I think the lack of strength is a persistent problem and frustrating thing about the SM girls. It seems with each debut, more strength/control/power is required but that isn't prioritised. If all of them just had a bit more muscle there'd be much improvement across the board.

While I agree on the top 3, I personally prefer Seulgi's style the most it seems very unique to me and makes me enjoy every single performance. I also think Lisa has found that special style and while I do agree with everything said about Momo and she is absolutely impressive, I wish I could see more performances like when she did Move by Taemin, I was so impressed but yes great top 3 out there, i love them all three!

people overlook ryujin cause jyp didn’t give her the main dancer position so im glad that non biased dancers overlook that arbitrary position & appreciate her worth. a looot of people notice her/prefer her dance when watching itzy performances. she’s in charge for most dance breaks & deservingly so! she really knows how to deliver them. but kpop stans limit themselves to reading “main dancer” position on kprofiles & tend to not rank her in dance rankings. which brings me to my next point - it’s interesting that “main dancer” title was shown as arbitrary like a lot of us think - in the way you explained in details why mina, twice main dancer is ranked so low - under twice members with no dance positions even. it’s always surprising to me why jihyo wasn’t given a dance position. also this video has also made me a fan of lisa & momo’s dance styles so thank you for that!

Needed this analysis on Lisa haha. I always thought she was one of the top dancers but so many disagreed. Well, BP's choreos and lack of much dance vids don't help either, and as you said, she has had to tone down her style a lot to fit the gg dancer, and BP's flow.

Conclusion at the end: I need to see Lisa dance to the other gg choreos or collab with the main dancers

this was fantastic!! as someone who knows next to nothing about dance, the detail you went into & the clips provided as reference made this video feel ten minutes long instead of fifty. honestly can’t imagine how long it took to make 😅

Momo is THAT dancer. Itzy and Twice are totally dance groups especially Itzy

Finally, someone who recognises Chaeyoung's dancing skills. I see rankings everywhere where people put her last or at the bottom of rankings in terms of dance

NingNing improvement yay!! I forgot how flexible YEJI is ❤️

I'm glad that this video puts into words my feelings about aespa. Individually they don't seem terrible dancers, but unfortunately their weaknesses are the ones that shine through in their performances and that's what makes them look messy and inconsistent. I really hope SM does smth about it to help them develop their skills bc they do seem to have a lot of potential.

I enjoyed this video so much! Thank you for taking the time and the effort to make this, i'm sure it wasn't easy :) It's really refreshing to see a very detailed dance analysis/ranking for female idols that isn't based in open style. The new trend of kpop dance youtube to rank gg members by open style never made much sense to me, although I find it interesting I felt like it ignored so many aspects of what kpop idol dancing is. But what do I know I'm not a professional dancer lol. I loved your explanation of Karina's dancing, personally I find her to be such an interesting dancer and felt like she dances in such a dimensional way and even though I could see that she lacked in some aspects I really disliked the whole "Karina is a terrible dancer" narrative that spread so quickly. Your comments about her cover of Naughty vs Ryujin's was fascinating! Also as someone who's a fan of Irene and greatly enjoys her dancing it was nice to not have to watch someone rip her to shreds lol, I love how detailed and elegant she is, she really makes dances look so "pretty" which I think suits Red Velvet's music so well. For future videos I was wondering if you could include something like a red asterisk to signal who youre talking about when you show dance videos? For example with some of the pre-debut dance videos for Blackpink I had a hard time telling who's who since the lighting isn't the best. Also some people might not be familiar with every group well enough to know all the members? Nonetheless thank you again for such a detailed and interesting video :) I'm so excited to see what other videos you'll make!!

I agree especially on the nayeon analysis, she doesnt have any major weakness. and she also had moment where she potentially can do outside of idol dance

loved this analysis! i also love how you pointed out how lia's sync with itzy is pretty good but her angles and body placement is what looks awkward! also finally someone who gives ryuijin credit for her insane control and not calling it "stiffness"!

Thanks for quantifying Nayeon's dance skills. I could never claim that she was a great dancer per say but something just really felt right about it. Now I know.

it seems that for female idols, they prefer sacrificing strength/having a good core to being thin and lean (and in east asia, being thin is a sign of health without much regard for muscle mass). of course this is not their fault, its an industry requirement and ideal but i think if physique was less of an importance in the kpop industry, many of these idol dancers' weaknesses could be lessened or even eliminated. loved ur analysis by the way!

I would just like to say, this was a wonderful explanation backed by dancer logic. thank you so much for doing this. I would also like to mention as just an extra piece of information, specifically for Joy, sometimes it is harder for a taller dancer to control their limbs and hit certain positions because of their limb length. I experience this myself because I am 5'7 and sometimes have the same problem. Overall thank you for making such a well made video and explaining it so well! New subscriber here!

great video to watch! i admittedly care more for the information you give on dancing moreso than the ranking of these idols (i actually don’t listen to kpop much at all outside of looking for dance related stuff because there are a lot of resources), but i couldn’t help but be really impressed with the work you must have put in to make something like this-finding the videos, studying all of the people and their styles, making it into something as comprehensive as this, etc… amazing work! the technical stuff you go into really is so helpful to review because you go into stuff i never thought of either when it comes to movements in dance/techniques etc and gives me new vocabulary to look into the things i want to study when it comes to dancing as a whole. thank you so much for this amazing video!!

I personally think Momo is the best female dancer in 3rd gen from what I’ve seen so far… Also, I would personally put Karina just a tiny bit higher just because for some reason, she does so well during dance practices (particularly GOT) and stands out a lot. Her footwork is just 👌🏼 I think choreography that actually suit her ‘style’ would really benefit her.

The itzy girlies are all incredible and I agree about not ranking them against each other since they all have very different styles and place importance on different things. For Yeji its in power and dynamics, for ryujin its her popping and control, for chaeryeong its balance and fluidity. I do disagree on Lia being second last. I think she is definitely higher than Joy, if for nothing else than for being able to perform itzys choreos to that standard.

Finally someone who ranks Jennie and Mina in an appropriately low position.

I saw aespa live a few weeks ago and have to say Giselle's dancing really has improved so you were right about her ability to improve!

ive always been so intensely fascinating by ryujin's technique and seeing it broken down like this made me gain a whole new appreciation. love the videos thank you for sharing!!

Nah, this is better than Open Style. You can explain their strength & weakness without tier that people made 💕💕, good analysis btw

RYUJINS DANCE SKILLS NEEDA BE TALKED ABOUT MORE 😍😍

found myself learning and agreeing with a lot of your observations, finally found the words to describe what I’ve noticed as a layperson who doesn’t know any of the dance terminology and technicalities

when Ryujin learns groove, who’s gonna stop her??

You’re one of the best creators I’ve found on KZfaq ❤❤❤thank you so so much for this professional analysis 🤟

Your breakdown of Karina’s dancing is perfect. I’m not a dancer and I was struggling to figure out why her dancing just felt “off” to me - this is why.

loved your detailed analysis i found it very interesting! some rankings were indeed suprising but i loved that you explained them all

thank you for this video. aside from learning more about specific idols and the techniques they struggle/excel in, i can also use this to help myself become a better dancer.

I love how the video's so, analytical and specific with its observations.

Omg yeri adding turns is cute hehe

Wow ur analysis is so good! And I love the fact that u took account of injuries of the respective idols like Jennie, Wendy, etc.

this is such a great analysis! i love ur attention to certain details (things a lot of other analyzers tend to overlook)!!!

momo ❤ the one and only. i’m also very proud to see seulgi up there, especially knowing she started as a singer! i absolutely love her unique style, it’s so mesmerizing. all top three are SO talented and very different i love watching them dance!

What a thorough and considerable analysis you made! Thank you very much for the video it was such a pleasure to watch! I’m just happy that I found you smh and now I am gonna watch all of your videos ahahaha You’re so cool and I love how you prove your point with ✨arguments✨ that really are ones and not just thoughts like “she danced better because I like her more 🤡” I think my favourite kpop gg dancer is Rujin (I never get tired of watching her fancams!) and I was so happy seeing her so high in your ranking cause honestly people tend to put her something in the middle for her lacking groove, so at the beginning of this video I was like “k, my girl very unlikely makes it” 😅 and I was so surprised! Agree with you that popping/animation is very her thing and hope we see more of these in the future! I also love Jihyo’s dancing (very eye-catching and always fun to watch), she’s such an inspiration! Just admire her and what she’s been through ❤️‍🩹 The girls at the top 3 are just monsters of k-pop dancing and I couldn’t say more 😂

Great ranking! I'm happy you noticed Irene's attention to detail when it comes to dance movement, I would also like to add that her neck isolations are crazy. I hope that Red Velvet will still continue to improve especially Yeri I feel she can dance very naturally when she's confident :)

This was a great very insightful video. It was good to get the dancers perspective. Watching the top 10 in your list dance, well all of them from 28 actually, you know there's something special there, but for it to be explained in such detail just makes me appreciate them more as artists. Thank you

I love this video. It taught me so much, for example about grooving! I feel like I can improve myself thanks to you.

I came here for the ranking, but wow... I'm shocked at how much I've learned. I used to always want to dance, but I couldn't afford it. Ever since then, I've kind of lived vicariously through kpop, watching choreos and fancams. I've heard a lot of different terms; lines, flow, groove, dynamics etc. And although I can kind of understand what those terms mean, seeing them here was probably the most effective and most insightful way I've actually been able to visualize what those terms actually look like. Especially the one example about Seulgi and the comparison to Yoonyoung. Great video!

love this video so much! as a non dancer, a reveluv and yeri bias I do agree with all of your analysis!!

I LOVE THAT 28:05 I have zero experience in dancing so I am learning so much and I've always envied dancers and tended to bias the "dancer" of each group because they moved in ways I never could, especially as someone with chronic pain. I love your videos so much!

I wish Nmixx was included too, I know they're so young compared to everyone else to form a judgement but it would have been fun to see you break down the members' skill level because they have some extremely strong dancers. I would love to see you do this for Kep1er as well, I love the dancers in that group and have a hard time ranking them.

This is an awesome video, and super informative! I love all these idols, and I think the way you described all of them was very respectful :)

This is one of best and right ranking i have seen in long time thanks

these analyses are so well-written (and not to mention informative for a non-dancer) i'm shooketh

you perfectly encapsulated my thoughts on karina's naughty cover. tutting is a style that focuses so much on cleanliness and each pose flowing into another to complete the illusion but karina is loses that effect by overdancing. i think her style is fine for other dances but it really doesn't match tutting. also im glad you gave the itzy girls a fair analysis. people tend to put down chaeryoung cause she has a more fluid style and ive seen people literally say shes only good at idol dancing when she obviously has potential for femme styles.

The 50 minutes went by so fast lol this is an amazing video well done!!

thank you so much for this!!! I'm sure it took a lot of time to put this together. thank you for your efforts. as a non-dancer, I learned so much!!! it was analytical and educational and most of all, FUN! *whispers* idk why I'm sad to see Mina rank so low huhu but it's that waddle - her feet always pointed out - oh habits die hard

As a dancer watching idols like Yeri is so frustrating, I agree with the placement, I agree that she seem to commit to techniques then mid movements abandons them, like her groove is good and I know she can groove but she abandons it mid movement, and it’s like why miss yerim why? It’s like roller coaster that is going up to the highest point and you are all excited for the drop but then it just go backwards!!!

Wow. I just learned so much about dance, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to make this video, it was super informative and really enjoyable to watch!

Oh i would love to see a Big 3 Bg ! Your analysis are really interesting and even as a non dancer I could finally understand why some average dancer look more appealing then some strong one I also wonder where some 2nd generation dancer like SNSD would have been ranked

I'm hypermobile so I feel like I can say something about dayun,force is possible you just need to train by strengthening the muscles but for that you need to lift weights. Not being able to control my body was one of the worst symptom of my hypermobility but it's getting better whith weight training. Even if you have something working against you with time and hard work it's always possible to be better.

karina has so much potential and is an excellent dancer. it is very clear that she has the foundations. she always completes her moves, her footwork always has me in awe with how detailed it is and she has the groove too. i think she is gonna be a monster once she learns out how to balance everything, and ty. i enjoyed the video.

Damn this video is so educational and the way op explains it is (semi) easy to understand 😭❤

Thank you for this! I’m no dancer myself, but for so long now I have wondered why Karina who stands out when dancing in a group looks ‘awkward’ and underwhelming when she does solo dance covers. I know she’s an incredible dancer but your explanation just made more sense now. Imagine if she can integrate what she’s learned Karina would be a very powerful dancer

It’s funny how literally in every single dancing ranking that you can find in the latest 2 years nayeon is in top 3. But the fandom still puts her top 5 lol

As I'm not a professional dancer, I didn't know there were so many elements that influence the final dancing performance. It was such an informative video. Thank you ^^

Such a great video! ❤❤ I appreciate the time and work its mustve taken to put it all together! And perhaps there could be another video analysing main dancers from non-Big3 groups? StayC, Everglow, Dreamcatcher, IVE etc.?

God what you mention about Jeongyeon's technique potentially not being healthy for her neck makes her decision to promote during More & More era despite her herniated disk that much more heartbreaking

ryujin is cool omg that dance break was so good

I think this is an amazing analysis! The only thing I would add is that Joy also deals with the bending to match the other members height issue like Tzuyu. Also that Irene does have inconsistent isolation, but she is fairly consistent with her neck isolations. Even in the monster clip used to show her lack of definition, she’s better than most of the professionals behind her with her neck isolations.

Great Video!! I can't even Imagine the amount of time it must have took to analyze all of them and then rank them and then edit the whole video.

You're doing god's work, thank you so muchhh

this kind of just goes to show how strange JYP's dance positions for each member is (obviously not including Momo), but I was always confused at how the lead dance positions were given to Tzuyu, I never really noticed her dance skills a lot. Also idk but I think Mina might have been given main dancer just because she does ballet. Idk why people still can't grasp the fact that ballet does not mean you deserve a main dancer position. Yes it helps a lot and gives you skills that allow you to be a good dancer, but this is KPOP where there're mainly hip-hop moves that are opposite to Ballet (also people like Kazuha).

At some points you completley blew my mind. I always used to see most of the idols dances as perfect but your point are sooo vaild! Loved your vid!

this was such an insightful video. Thanks!

I can see the great effort put into this video. Loved it!!🎉

Just watched your video! Loved it. Thank you for the precise analysis. Need more videos like this? Also could you please do a video on pre-debut videos of Momo and Lisa? It would be so nice to do an analysis on it too. Not a comparison or anything but an analysis.

i am really into lists+ranking things and dance so this video is just 💖 for me

This was super interesting, i didnt expect to watch the whole thing thru! Would love an updated version (maybe incl more groups? If you ever have time 😊)

Momo is THE dancer. She deserves her number 1 spot, every move she does, she executes it perfectly and she has awesome technique. She’s literally the best dancer here no doubt, if anyone tells me otherwise, y’all should really go watch Momo dance. She’s awesome, I’m glad finally someone realized that she’s good at her skills, because many fans don’t appreciate her enough (some do, some don’t.)

Actually, Jihyo being ranked 7th, only behind the main dancers of the groups, is the best. She did ballet when she was little, she practiced dancing only in her trainee days and there really aren't many videos of her dancing in pre-debut. But she is the best in performance, I think there is still no one who can sing and dance like she does. She really is the best idol out there.

this is exactly what I was looking for thank you!