I've learned two important things from this video. One. Your kids had one HELL of a Christmas! Two. You describing the suspension setup to your son is very similar to when Paul the Punter tries to explain it to me. 😂

I’m out in my backyard right now building a mountain bike trail I got the notification for this video and decided it was time to take a break and watch it

You are raising future pro MTB riders for sure! They are so skillful and connected to the bike yet so young.. simply amazing!

Hey I wanted to add a suggestion. I am a shorter rider and my dropper was a bit tall for me. I came up with a hack using a couple of zip ties from the seat clamp to the seat as a limiting strap to keep the post from extending all the way, now it works great and doesn’t extend too high!

When I saw Seth's video about a dad towing his son along the white line, my first thought was 'I think Milo and Owen are a bit young for that' luckily it wasn't you guys haha awesome to see them progressing!

When I first got my bike I just ran the dropper halfway up and it worked completely fine

Love that when Owen went up those shelf’s, that guy said: “that was ridiculous!” He’s definitely progressing

My son moved from 24 inch to 27.5 at Christmas also. For kids, I use the OneUp dropper post. OneUp has the lowest stack height of any dropper. But the best part is the 120mm dropper can be adjusted to 100mm. From looking at your video, I believe the 120mm OneUp dropper adjusted to 100mm will work very well for Owen. Also, the SDG Fly seat is low profile for kids which will help a bit more as well as fit better.

Keep up the good work dad! So cool to see their progression.

Have three boys of my own and had the same issues with dropper posts. Installed OneUp dropper 125 mm that has also a minimal footprint (read: low stack). But more importantly; boys did learn very quickly to use their 'bottom' to limit the upward movement of the saddle. Simple as that! Love to watch your family-oriented videos, Eric!

Maybe your smaller kid can use the dropper post, using zip ties to stop the full travel of the post. Zip ties between the saddle and the dropper clamp can solve the problem. I used this method for my kids and it was great, because you can increase the travel, when they are growing. Hope, it helps! Greetings from Germany.

Imagine having Porter and Seth has a coach! Good job guys and great video

my son is on an xs frame and it was a game changer for him. I was able to find a low rise dropper for him and he loves it.

Great video! I was impressed especially with Owen smashing the pedals on the climbs on that big 27.5! Can't wait until our kiddo is big enough to start riding with me!

@porter MTB you guys always make me so psyched to go out and ride keep up the good mtb content you guys are killing it!

Skate hipster Milo and skate punker Owen is the kind of character arc I was always hoping for on Porter MTB. They'll never truly fully understand how rad their dad is! That's a lotta personality under one roof...

Milo should get some orange fork and rear shock stickers 👊

I’m a bike mechanic and I never knew about that stem trick and now I use it every time I put on a new stem

If you haven't thought about it yet, possibly look at a fox transfer SL dropper as you can get one with only a 75mm drop which might fit Owen

Dude those bikes are awesome they are now shredding the trails on their new full suspension

Was scrolling through KZfaq right before taking my bike out for a stroll. Its an Aventon SInch from SWFL Golf Carts.

Thanks for getting my confidence up

I don't know if you don't want to do it, but you can tie a cable at the back of the saddle and in the seatpost collar and set the maximum height that the seatpost can go. I did it for my son's bike and it works perfect ! Cheers !

I had the same issue when I setup my son's fork. He's grown into it now but it was a bit stiff for a while. They grow fast! BTW, the droppers from Oneup and PNW have adjustable travel if you want to get Owen a dropper.

Cool glasses that Milo has. Really suits him! Owen you rock!

My first “real” mtb was a full squish and I had been on a full rigid my whole life so I know the feeling of switching from a hard tail to a full squish

Thanks for telling me about competitive cyclists. Im currently building a 26" 2007 Specialized Hardrock sport and an having a hard time finding parts that match my gray and teal vision.

My son is 11 and has an older aluminum XS Release 1 27.5 with Rockshox suspension (Pike/Monarch Plus). I found there was a big difference in suspension when changing the 2wt suspension oil to 0wt suspension oil at his 90 lb ride weight. Fox parts may be different but could be worth a try before a complete re-valve of the dampers (although maybe you get that for free). Also an 80mm dropper worked perfect for him in the XS frame when he was 55" tall.

Something you can do regarding the dropper issue with Owen is you could get a shor drop pnw components dropper and adjust the travel with the travel adjuster to make it short enough for him

Glad to hear DB is making as XS! My SO is 5'0 and finding a bike for her has been a challenge.

ya know what it needs stickers, they make it 20% faster and 30% more steezzzzzzz

Sedona for the first ride... epic - sweet ride there team.

I saw milo on his new bike on seth's video on the white line. Great job!

Wow, giving your kids stuff from work? Thanks Dad, lol.. Awesome vid dude.

The biggest flex in life is having a family

Cool trick for centering the handle bar at 3:30, gotta show it to my friend who has a lefty 😜

Color coordinated bikes look so much better. Great job there Dad!

All the cool stuff aside. It it awesome that you spend quality time with your kids. That way you know what going on in there life's

Still waiting on my 1st dropper. Lol. I seen some people limited the travel of there dropper with a peace of string or elastic.

Good video Eric, boys look pumped with the new bikes and Owen seems to be a climbing master, bet going from 24" to 650B is a mega help there, props to what he used to achieve on those 24"s. Looking forward to seeing some more stuff from Sedona and the boys ripping - the footage of them jumping on the new FSs and throwing some good style was impressive, bikes have definitely given them a boost. Pity that there's no real off the shelf suspension parts designed/valved for kids, although going from a HT to FS, any sort of travel in back is going to give them some added traction in the rough stuff. Glad you touched on tyre pressure with Owen, didn't discuss Milo's or what you run in your tyres relative, which would have been cool - I asked on a Yohan Barelli video with one of the kids he's mentoring that I think might weigh 100lbs wet, how come he would recommend the same pressures as him when he's at least 60-70lbs heavier, but didn't get a response. Also would have been cool to touch on bar width and keeping kids on the right width bar instead of one that's too wide, not somewhere, IMHO to leave "big" for a kid to grow into and a god place to help make a "Bit too big, room to grow into" bike fit just a bit better. Not one to not use all bar width myself, but I know some do, so not sure if that's Milo, but it looked like maybe he could use 10mm off each side of his bar and Owen looked like he might take 15mm on each side. P.S. Know they're not one of your sponsors, but you could pick up a PNW 125mm Rainer Gen3 dropper and drop it to 100mm and think that by Fall Owen might be able to use it. Alternatively, you could always just don't extend the dropper all the way back up when Owen's riding, so he at least has instant ability to drop it, then just have to take time to get it back to the right height.

The all orange Release was the hit of Sedona!

Great Video! do you mind sharing what suspension settings are?

Owens rancid hoodie got me sooo stoked

dang them lucky. i wish i could have a bike like milo's bike on my birthday

Nice content guys for your little guy short cranks ie 150 mm would probably allow him to run the short dropper .

Thanks, I never knew all that. Now I'm going to buy aftermarket parts.

Nice video! Does OneUp make a dropper small enough for your boy? OneUp has shims which allow you to reduce extension when all the way up.

you could try the oneup 90mm post for Owen

you could get a gravel dropper post to fix the dropper issue with owen

Curious, is that a special color way on your older sons Poc helmet? Looks really good.

I haven't been able to track down a bel air 3.0. Looks good!

Kids bikes are such a challenge b/c of the weight/height issues and then trying to use decent components. I built up a small Kona 26er HT for my 5th grade son and for the fork I grabbed an old RockShox Duke and then ramped up the negative spring pressure to get it to actually move enough for him.

yes

i have also learnt two things from this video 1. i wish i had a full suspension bike (cant afford) 2.i love your videos

I wish I had enough money for a full suspension, but I’m stuck on a hard tail where we don’t have any trail variety and none anywhere nearby

Eric, I’m a shredder in the Bay Area. I’m currently looking at the Diamondback Release 5C, and it looks sick. It’s a little pricey, and I’m hoping to buy it. Your amazing man. Love your videos! I hope you reply soon. Cheers!

Haha Seth could ride it too! Heck at 5'6" I probably could too 😆 Sweet ride👍🙋

visually looking at the grey bike it looks like they could’ve removed the gusset and shortened the seat tube even more. 388mm seat tube really isn’t that small for an xs. I understand that possibly tire clearance was a factor there. I recommend trying the new oneup dropper for him as they are super short in there stack and can shim it to 70mm.

i got a "mack 26 mongoose" bike its really good and cool and its 26 inches so i like it it's pretty good also its hard tail i use it alot

Definitely keep milo's old bike because I regretted selling my hardtail because hardtails are better for some things.

I ride a hard trail too and it's doing the job alright

That’s exactly how I line up bars!

For Owen you could try the one up 90 millimeter dropper

A velcro strap around that pocket in the frame then looped thru the seat rails could limit the seats upward movement so that Owen could use that dropper post.

Milo is the chillest dude in America

As a new rider , I have to say those children are pretty good at riding down those trails . To make your child that good you need to put a lot of effort works and determination .You are such a good parent mate great job . Probably i will need your kids to service my bike 😂😂😂

I was looking for a bike for my kid who is 4'3'', i was thinking about 24', but now i can at least go straight to 26. Thanks for the video.

Hey Porter’s!! Would love to know what trails you all do as a family. We are heading out that way in May, never been, and my wife and I need some not so the white line type stuff.

You could just make a restrictor for the dropper. I have one on my bike. Made it out of wire and crimped it.

I am super excited for your kids! We have some friends with little (6yo-10yo) shredders and got to watch first hand there transformation from HT to FS bikes last season. It was a great reminder that MTB is an equipment based sport. I will say DB is missing your typical MTB family market with these bike price points. No way a your average family of 4 is dropping $4k-$5k on a kids bike they will out grow in a couple seasons.

I just noticed that Seth from berm peak was in the background of Milos new bike

Love the videos guys. Learning lots about setup for our kids. Just bought little kid her first real mountain bike. Big kid gets one in a couple weeks. Good fun stuff.

Hi Eric!! So cool to see ur kids killin' it w u too!!

tie a bit of rope from the triangle brace in the frame to the seat rails, it will limmit its up travel. I have done this when friends borrow my L bike and the dropper is too high!

Milo, those glasses are awesome.

For Owen's height limitations regarding the dropper post, he might still benefit from the dropper if you limit the extension. You could run a small loop of paracord through the suspension gusset hole where the top tube meets the seat tube and tie it to the seat rail so that when the dropper extends, it's limited by the loop of cord. Ghetto fix but it would give him some drop which is so good for riding skills!

What fixed seatpost you are using for the little one?

Pnw components has a kids specific dropper you should try

that is awesome i need a bigger bike but i don't have enough to get one

The Porter boys are killing it. Keep shredding!

I'm impressed to his son who knows how to set up bikes

Great vid, don't you cut down a bit of the handlebars for the kids?

Much love 😘❤️

eric did you ever had any chin accidents when mountain biking ik its the most common accident ive been through tat accident oman luckily my jaw wasnt smashed so do the porters know how to bail?

I love mountain biking and I just went for like a 3-5 hour ride with my dad and we had to replace the pipe in his rear tire because is broke and I also needed a new helmet and we also got some new things like a small portable bike pump and lights to go on the bikes and we get a lot of and have a lot of Diamond back stuff and I only now found out they have bikes, well that's my new bike soon my bike is getting to small for me

Lucky kids with a great dad

26er's full sus (aka slopestyle bikes) are the best imo. If you're a parent who only wants to buy one bike to do it all I think it's the best of all worlds. Small enough to take to the skatepark and plush enough to ride downhill. However they aren't cheap lol

Hi just want to suggest to limit your kids dropper post. Check out rowdy line mtb dropper post limiter hack. For sure your son will love it

PNW has a kid size dropper post with 90mm of travel! You should check it out!

Nice video 👏🏼

Milo is super trendy 👍👍

hi just wondering i dont see anything wrong with raceface bars and defty grips

One up has a like 80 mm dropper I think

surley the dropper is fine, they aren't a all or nothing thing... you just won't be extending it fully until he gets a little taller.

Get orange decals on those forks ‼️‼️

I'm jealous man Milo and Owen are so lucky

As a short adult (5'3), I know the struggle to find a dropper post. Any suggestions on finding one? I'm riding a 2021 Giant Talon small frame 27.5. I read that I could possibly use a 70mm dropper for kids and use a shiv to account for the tube diameter. I'd love your advice, because unlike Owen, I'm not growing anymore. Does OneUp have anything?

spectacular!!!! Those bikes look fun! I think kids should go to 26 first for better control! But we all know he will grow into it! RideOn!

You should get Owen the new one up 90mm droper

I think something is wrong with my shock then, I have like 150 lbs in my front and rear, and I’m always bottoming out my rear when I go to the park