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Big Diesel vs Small Diesel Pulling Test! BeamNG. Drive

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Forgotten Mustard

Forgotten Mustard

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Is displacement still king? Will a turbocharged 4-cylinder match a V8?
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@tregaming07
@tregaming07 3 жыл бұрын
Small Diesel vs Big gas engine?
@ForgottenMustard
@ForgottenMustard 3 жыл бұрын
Big diesel.
@mateorapki8202
@mateorapki8202 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenMustard yes,make video big diesel turbo or small gas turbo
@rosemaryfriedw124a8
@rosemaryfriedw124a8 3 жыл бұрын
Small gas vs big diesel
@pablo3639
@pablo3639 3 жыл бұрын
Small gas vs airplane. Why not?
@belizeanbwoi6722
@belizeanbwoi6722 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenMustard we want to see big gas vs small diesel.
@ViperDent
@ViperDent 3 жыл бұрын
They can't really compare. They have the same driving gear but because the I4 reaches higher RPM, it's top speed is technically higher than the V8; therefore its gear needs to be shortened to match the top speed in 1st gear of the V8.
@andyboy13
@andyboy13 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure that out too. I get the same drive ratios, as you don't get a torque advantage by gear ratios, but I think the climb needs to be longer. The second test withe the turbo V8, it climbed up at 1k/hr, whereas the i4 used momentum, and likely would've stalled out.
@trainman665
@trainman665 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyboy13 It climbed by slipping the clutch. In real life you wouldn’t do this. You would either stop or stall.
@pazsion
@pazsion Жыл бұрын
You float the clutch to prevent stalling, because you lose power, brakes and steering if you stall… not good on a hill.
@CharlieBennici
@CharlieBennici 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know the trans and clutch temp on these pulls. Woof they gotta be up there.
@m.b.82
@m.b.82 3 жыл бұрын
As mentioned, they should be the same, but I dont think there would be enough time for them to get too hot. Also, the 4 cyl should have had a shorter diff ratio to complement the higher working rpm of the engine.
@Mr_Glenn
@Mr_Glenn 2 жыл бұрын
@Kresimir Baric No, the big one doesn't have a benefit. The revs are lower too, it's just a lower redline. That doesn't make it pull harder. If anything, the 4 cyl has an advantage, because it can reach a higher speed before it goes up.
@RoyFabian
@RoyFabian 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely no replacement for displacement. The big engine did it more consistently at a lower rpm too. Lost less speed. The small engine revved to the moon and gave the truck more momentum off the line, but then fell flat on its face. Lost alot more speed. The big engine just has more ass than the little engine.
@johnseedorff3951
@johnseedorff3951 3 жыл бұрын
It’s insane how beam ng made there V8 diesel sound just like a 7.3 IDI
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Rammmmmmmmmm tchiuuuuu rammmnmmmmmmmmmm tchiuuuuuuuu rammmmmmmmm Tchuuhuuu
@JohnnyAnderson1
@JohnnyAnderson1 3 жыл бұрын
even has the same RPM range
@throwout1483
@throwout1483 3 жыл бұрын
The Vivace diesel would work really good in the Hopper, maybe even the crawler.
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
What about the ETK 856td's 3 liter inline 6 diesel?
@Jurda
@Jurda 3 жыл бұрын
Man it would be cool if you could put some car's engine into a different car
@Sithhy
@Sithhy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jurda You can, but it requires a little bit of fiddling with ingame files
@-b1ghorn087
@-b1ghorn087 3 жыл бұрын
1st. I would love to see a 2.0L try pushing 35lbs boost. 2. Absolutely no replacement for displacement. It's America after all haha 3. In regards to pulling nothing will beat a diesel.
@ferfire9
@ferfire9 3 жыл бұрын
Easy, search for VW 1.9 PD engines , tunning is very popular in Europe with these, they do much more than 40 psi and go up to 700 hp with NOS
@HJZ75driver
@HJZ75driver 3 жыл бұрын
Is alot to be said for tuning
@aceofspades9833
@aceofspades9833 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve obviously never heard of a single tuner car my friend has a 2004 Volkswagen Golf with the 1.8t GAS engine turbo and he is currently pushing 40lbs of boost then my other friend who I met at a car meet this last summer has an Evo 8 that he ran 25 lbs of boost through it for several years on a bare bones stock motor even stock intake he then saved up to slightly build the motor all he did was put in ARP head studs and forged pistons everything else was left stock he now pushes 50 lbs of boost and makes between 750-800 horsepower my guy do your research the fastest 4cyl in the world is a Mitsubishi Eclipse with a full built 4G63 that pushes 112lbs of boost and makes 2000hp out of a 2.2 liter stroker 4g63 4cyl my guy 2.0 engines push 35lbs of boost easily on the daily🤡🤡
@-b1ghorn087
@-b1ghorn087 3 жыл бұрын
@@aceofspades9833 yea I guess they can but those typically are tuned and built engines so I guess I was thinking a stock engine pushing 35 boost. But also where I am from nobody really builds 4cycl. It’s diesel or nothing here lol
@aceofspades9833
@aceofspades9833 3 жыл бұрын
@@-b1ghorn087 Jesus that actually sounds depressing where do you live where it’s like that like Alaska or something and yah actually a diesel 4cyl could probably easily hit 35psi because of the way diesels are built and run they are built really strong from factory and don’t have much complicated stuff like ignition timing referring to spark plugs
@PaulosKal
@PaulosKal 3 жыл бұрын
You can't just have the same gearbox in both engines. They have different rpm ranges of maximum performance..
@PaulosKal
@PaulosKal 3 жыл бұрын
@Kresimir Baric No. The big engine got the advantage. The smaller engine, although it reaches high rpm, can't provide the energy to tow a heavy trailer uphill at that speed, so it slows down. The correct thing to do now is downshift to keep the rpm high but there is no lower gear, that's what made it lose the race.
@user-mi9tw8ex1l
@user-mi9tw8ex1l 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a comparison of the engines not the gearbox’s
@PaulosKal
@PaulosKal 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-mi9tw8ex1l What if I told you that the gearbox is part of the engine? Every car made has got installed a gearbox with specific characteristics to be able to output the most of the engine to the wheels efficiently and effectively, according to people's needs.
@SebastianWoodard
@SebastianWoodard 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulosKal two things, a gearbox/transmission is NOT a part of the engine. By using your argument, the doors are a part of the engine. What you’re thinking of is powertrain, which would be the engine, transmission, transfer case (if equipped), driveshaft, and the differential(s). But you also confirmed the argument that the transmission cannot be identical on two different motors for a fair comparison of just the motors.
@PaulosKal
@PaulosKal 3 жыл бұрын
@@SebastianWoodard Yes, you are right, I agree with you. I'm just trying to explain it in a simple way.
@andres.96
@andres.96 3 жыл бұрын
why was this tests unfair?because the big engine had its max power t 3k rpm where it reached around 13kmh and the small engine had its max power at 5krpm where it was going faster than 13kmh because u used the same gear ratio on both cars. to make it fair you have to tune the gears so that both cars reach the same speed at their max power
@PaulosKal
@PaulosKal 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on
@bintrash6121
@bintrash6121 3 жыл бұрын
Chill bro it's just a test if u want to make it fair. Call me 🤙
@kaelenthurlow3984
@kaelenthurlow3984 3 жыл бұрын
not only that the blue one is rev banging and it's pushing 30 psi in 1st
@codyrebelcb
@codyrebelcb 3 жыл бұрын
"How many lbs this little 4 cylinder gal pushing?" "40"😂😂
@devinstroud5221
@devinstroud5221 3 жыл бұрын
The i4 diesel sounds almost like a 2 stroke detroit 453t
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh it probably has 10 times bigger displacement
@TheRathead80
@TheRathead80 3 жыл бұрын
@@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 4-53 Detroit is a 3.5L I4 its almost 2 times larger.
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRathead80 sry, didnt really notice the "453t", and when you hear detroit diesel you think about a heavy duty trucks engine, also i just noticed that the i4 is 2.0l so it would be about 7-8 times larger if so
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Coloca o pente na caminhonete kkkkkk
@ebbonemint
@ebbonemint 3 жыл бұрын
4 cylinder guys: “I don’t need 6 liters of displacement to make power” [Thousands of dollars later while using a turbo to cram 6 liters of air into a 2 liter engine] 4Cyl guys: “See, 10 more psi and I’ll almost make as much power as you for 0.3 seconds before redline”
@flintboss5277
@flintboss5277 3 жыл бұрын
@Stolas true
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Жыл бұрын
formula 1 with 1.5 liters of displacement and 850hp: what? can't hear you over my overwhelming hp/l anyway, i'd rather have an NA engine if i can, too. but i don't fkn need 6 liters. i don't even know what americans use their pickups for that need so much... girth. why do you need to drive a locomotive everywhere?
@drewlawrence8259
@drewlawrence8259 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a reason that semis are turbo inline engines with 14+ litre displacement lol, that trans temp would be gnarly🤣
@dylanspencer3662
@dylanspencer3662 3 жыл бұрын
That chassis’s twist though🤤
@jamesauld1253
@jamesauld1253 3 жыл бұрын
I just love that the physics in this game are so detailed even down to this level
@cameroredrocket8768
@cameroredrocket8768 Жыл бұрын
it's called torque twist, and anything above 350lb ft at such heavy loads seems heavy enough for a stock d35
@gabrielesala6336
@gabrielesala6336 3 жыл бұрын
The 4-cyl is also a lot less eco friendly since with all that boost it must burn tons of fuel, i would choose the big displacement
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I hope not many people share this way of thinking. Better to know thermodynamics and physics than to end up thinking this way.
@CortyCze
@CortyCze 2 жыл бұрын
No, not really. This ain't a gas engine but a diesel, in diesels you don't have to add as much extra fuel as you have to do with a gas engine when adding so much air.
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@CortyCze Oh boy, just as worse...please people first educate yourselves a bit before muttering about stuff you clearly aren't informed enough about. A hint: stochiometric ratio
@CortyCze
@CortyCze 2 жыл бұрын
@@GERntleMAN Sure, but diesels run lean, doesn't matter if they run even leaner. So, stop being smartass youself, throwing technical words without explaining yourself.
@TheJeremy5599
@TheJeremy5599 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but diesels have such a wide afr and more boost actually helps them have less EGT so more boost is almost always cleaner. More fuel means power :) without getting into a comment section lecture.
@maatu_boe
@maatu_boe 3 жыл бұрын
You do realize that there is more torque on diesels on lower rpms right? The engines are not at their highest potential when youre on the redline...
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 Жыл бұрын
You do realize momentum plays a big part in everything as well too right?
@maatu_boe
@maatu_boe Жыл бұрын
@@jacobwebb8818 how does momentum change the fact that he is redlining diesel engines?
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 Жыл бұрын
@@maatu_boe that changes everything...
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 Жыл бұрын
@@maatu_boe if he didn't he would not have climbed the hill. If he was spinning I would agree with you.
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 Жыл бұрын
@@maatu_boe I suggest you look into how powerbands, transmissions, differentials and tire sizes all work. There's a reason 90% of the time when you're drag racing you go past the strongest point of your powerband and keep revving a gear out until the next one. Just because, for example, you're making 430hp out of like 460hp at 7600 RPM instead of 7000 doesn't mean that those 600 RPM are useless
@ChevyBM
@ChevyBM 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a big motor! And a smaller one with the same power will not be as reliable as a big one.
@SpuddyLlama
@SpuddyLlama 3 жыл бұрын
Will say the little 4cyl had one advantage, being able to wrap up to a higher rpm with yes the same gearbox allowed it to get the extra 7 or so km/h on the run up to assist it making it up.
@u1richh
@u1richh 3 жыл бұрын
That last pull on the I4 would have destroyed the frame.
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Coloca o motor da F-1000 na caminhonete
@johnweisinger7390
@johnweisinger7390 3 жыл бұрын
In the real world if a manufacturer was dumb enough to put a 4cyl diesel in a 1 ton truck, it would have lower gears to compensate for having less power.
@otm646
@otm646 3 жыл бұрын
Look up the Isuzu NPR series trucks. 14,500 lb GVWR runs a 5.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel. Excellent powertrain.
@johnweisinger7390
@johnweisinger7390 3 жыл бұрын
@@otm646 oh I know. BUT the truck is geared for that engine. GM put the Detroit 4-53 (212 cid) in their C60 2ton trucks as far back as the 50s, BUT they were geared for it. Back in the day they all also put 6cyl and V8 gasoline engines in 2ton and larger semi trucks....but they were geared for it. However those are not pickups. A 4cyl like a 4BT Cummins is great in a pickup as far as fuel economy is, but as far as towing and hauling, they struggle even when "turned up".
@user-vg1fu1xb5l
@user-vg1fu1xb5l 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a same horsepower test for low vs high displacement engine? i4 1.6liter turbo 1000hp Vs Any high displacement (1000hp)
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer
@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer 3 жыл бұрын
The only difference is going to be that the 1.6 will have the power only on high revs because of the massive turbo that it has to have to get to 1000hp Also Turbolag, probably not so many torque because of short piston stroke
@33du27
@33du27 3 жыл бұрын
@@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer Yeah there is only 2 ways of making horsepower, high torque or high rpm.
@Turbo_The_Femboy_Fox
@Turbo_The_Femboy_Fox 3 жыл бұрын
@@33du27 kinda, horsepower equals torque X RPM/5252, let’s say you have 1000 ft-lbs of torque at 1500 RPM, 1000 times 1500 equals 1,500,000, then you divide that number by 5252 and you get 285, that’s your hp. Now let’s say you push 250 ft-lbs of torque at 8500, 250 times 8500 equals 2,125,000 then divide that by 5252, you get 404 hp. Yes, you can have tremendous torque, or higher RPM, in most cases, higher redlines mean less torque, and more torque means less redlines. (please note that I said most, unless we’re talking about dragsters, this is true), the reason lower redline is capable for torque is because the length of the stroke is longer, if you have a longer stroke, you get more torque, but in most cases you will lose some high RPM range because if you stroke an engine, inertia will act more on the rod journals and too much inertia will cause damage.
@33du27
@33du27 3 жыл бұрын
@@Turbo_The_Femboy_Fox yeah everyone knows that, didnt i just say so?
@33du27
@33du27 3 жыл бұрын
@@Turbo_The_Femboy_Fox i just said there is 2 ways of making power and im correct, many small engines with turbos rev very high to get a lot of horsepower and use a turbo to generate some torque in the higher rpms. A low revving cars usually are diesel or just very big petrol engines with long strokes and they dont need a turbo or high revs to get good amouts of horsepower
@hollandf10
@hollandf10 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know I’m not the only one having problems with that trailer pack missing the second axle wheels and the first axle not having tires that work properly. Hopefully they fix that soon so I can haul a fully loaded T series with my small 7.3L D series and a gooseneck hitch lol
@drewski.johnson
@drewski.johnson 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m having the same problem
@The101Point1
@The101Point1 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewski.johnson I thought they fixed it the last time I used it was working correctly
@Barrencjusz
@Barrencjusz 3 жыл бұрын
The MPG tells it all!
@user-fj5zt7vt9f
@user-fj5zt7vt9f 3 жыл бұрын
Hm. I likesuch an overloads. But more interesting for small engines is increasing gear ratios. In real life the worst consequence is a dropping of lifetime
@HJZ75driver
@HJZ75driver 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
@@HJZ75driver The droppings of a lifetime cost you so much time to get to wherever to your destination is.
@crunchie83
@crunchie83 3 жыл бұрын
All of a sudden you understand why tractor pulls exist.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Жыл бұрын
yep tractors can make this with 180hp easy
@bassblaster505
@bassblaster505 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get the mod that has the chevy 7.4 454, Ford 6.8 V10 and Mopar 8.0 V10 lol
@johnwicksdog3371
@johnwicksdog3371 3 жыл бұрын
Why the Chevy will just break down
@GarageDoorGuy89
@GarageDoorGuy89 3 жыл бұрын
Add the Ford 460 to that list, just for kicks add the ford 300.
@bassblaster505
@bassblaster505 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageDoorGuy89 I have that mod. I found one that has a loads of chevy and ford engines even the classic 4.3 V6 and ford's 300 online too. Vulcan V6 for whatever thats slow revving box is worth
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarageDoorGuy89 Imagine a modified version of a 460... a 620.
@steelervette
@steelervette 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this so interesting to me 🤣
@smokeymotorsport
@smokeymotorsport 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the concept of a 2 litre 4 cylinder which develops only 350lb-ft with 30psi boost. Same for the V8 - a 5.3 LS with 14psi boost will give you 700lb-ft all day long, but it never went over 450lb-ft on the simulation.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Жыл бұрын
if i'm not mistaken, the 2l amarok has 18 psi of boost and 310lb-ft, so yeah, 350lb-ft for 30 psi is lowballing it.
@cameroredrocket8768
@cameroredrocket8768 Жыл бұрын
@@GraveUypo depends on other specs of the engine too
@canal8895
@canal8895 2 жыл бұрын
Other thing to keep in mind is the smaller one could be more expensive to build than a big engine. And the right materials/parts for this small engine could be a suprise lasting as much as a big v8. Great video
@MrKEMills
@MrKEMills 3 жыл бұрын
If you fully upgrade the turbo on the V8 diesel, the whistle will sound amazing.
@theplayer12312
@theplayer12312 3 жыл бұрын
i havent subscribed to this channel, but thanks youtube for sending me a notification about it
@jeyayt1566
@jeyayt1566 3 жыл бұрын
Is that 2.0L Diesel based off a Vivace/Tograc Diesel i4?
@ForgottenMustard
@ForgottenMustard 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's from the Vivace.
@alexyoungberg5232
@alexyoungberg5232 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenMustard how are you able to swap it into that truck? I cant get that engine on my game
@alexyoungberg5232
@alexyoungberg5232 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenMustard also I cant figure out how to load items onto utility trailers
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenMustard I wish we had a inline-5 version. Comes in with a 2 liter version (based on the 1.6 inline 4 - has 25% more power and torque) and... the 2 1/2 liter version (based on the 2 liter inline 4 version - same description as the other, 25% more torque and power)
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
All this talk about unfair. I'm just amazed where sim tech is now vs mid late 90s when I was into it all. This is fuckin amazing.
@CaramelColored
@CaramelColored 2 жыл бұрын
"No replacement for displacement." Wankel Rotary would like to have a chat.
@Kona5.0
@Kona5.0 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I love these videos! You are one of the people that got me so addicted to this game a few days ago and I just can’t stop playing! I love pushing the vehicles to their limits like this to see what they are capable of. Can’t wait to try this trailer mod out!
@pearsonhengstebeck4410
@pearsonhengstebeck4410 3 жыл бұрын
What mods are you using to boost the engines to that level? Also how do they not blow?
@goatman956
@goatman956 3 жыл бұрын
There's a mod called twincharge everything that lets you add a turbo or supercharger and gives you an option to make an indestructible engine to keep up with the boost.
@sethhays5525
@sethhays5525 2 жыл бұрын
For these tests you really need to shift up if able. So if your maxed in first shift to second to get a bigger speed built up and then downshift to 1st when you have to, that would allow more speed into the hill so you could keep momentum moving. Just a thought and I know I am a few years late to this video.
@EctoGamer
@EctoGamer 3 жыл бұрын
1.9tdi>anything
@swedish_brick_enjoyer
@swedish_brick_enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
So today I learned that in order to twist the chassis on a semi square body Chevy, you need 18,000 lb ft of torque going to the wheels.
@huntsbychainsaw5986
@huntsbychainsaw5986 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know that I completely agree with your conclusion but I enjoyed watching your experiment. Full disclosure though when purchasing a new vehicle recently I did choose the larger displacement N/A engine over the smaller turbocharged engine for concerns about engine longevity but I did not choose the largest displacement engine offered either. I opted for the "fleet spec" mid range engine so I guess you could say I'm on the fence. Is there a replacement for displacement? Depending on what you doing yes... and no.
@inutil6117
@inutil6117 3 жыл бұрын
The N/A 2L sounds exactly like a fuckin lawnmower. 😭😂
@evilocomments
@evilocomments 3 жыл бұрын
Several clutches were harmed in the making of this video
@calebrowe8404
@calebrowe8404 3 жыл бұрын
The I4 Sounds like a 2 stroke Detroit
@adamjohnson1821
@adamjohnson1821 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel power!
@xXxDeamonlordxXx
@xXxDeamonlordxXx Жыл бұрын
Thats why i drive my old 2.5 straight six. Here in germany thats a quite big engine compared to that what most manufacturer sell out here. Most common you have 1.2 to 1.6l engines, but in compacts you often go sub 1.0l with three cylinders... Funny when you think about it, but even my Motocycle engine is with 1157cc bigger then many compact cars have... You may have some remaining big engines, but they sadly get uncommon around here. I miss them...
@ryanhealy3074
@ryanhealy3074 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, those gear ratios are way wrong for a diesel. You'd see 4:10s instead of 3:55s
@davidlefranc6240
@davidlefranc6240 3 жыл бұрын
then lets make a 6.0 liter 4 banger lol
@user-fe7bo5mm1o
@user-fe7bo5mm1o 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that naturally aspirated i4 would even go
@Adventureswithmike1
@Adventureswithmike1 3 жыл бұрын
Right there is no replacement for displacement... But you were running the same gear ratio what you should have did was change the gear ratio to 3.73 or 4.10 4.56 And see if the little 4 could have done it
@anonym3017
@anonym3017 3 жыл бұрын
except there is. especially for diesels where the turbo running doesn't massively lower yourfuel efficiency. but the correct replaement would have been a 3.0-4.0 i6 turbo diesel and not a 2.0
@killerdinamo08
@killerdinamo08 3 жыл бұрын
What's the fancy software used for this? Looks interestingly geeky ❤.
@haifai3916
@haifai3916 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a game called BeamNG.Drive
@michaels8237
@michaels8237 3 жыл бұрын
You should see the max that the v8 diesel truck could pull before it just broke something
@JonathanGameHD
@JonathanGameHD 3 жыл бұрын
i love the torque twist it makes
@paolopaletti2738
@paolopaletti2738 Жыл бұрын
Ormai è chiaro a tutti che,secondo la linea di pensiero di mostarda,il quale non sopporta i motori V8,forse perché non l’ha mai provato,oppure per una sua empatia nel dna. Io ho un Hemi 5.7 stock,ho solo montato un true dual H pipe,con filtro aria KN. Si è vero,un 4L Mercedes di una classe A45,oggettivamente rende improponibile un confronto,il 4L tedesco ha una performance di alto livello,tecnologicamente evoluto,cambio robotizzato a infiniti rapporti,ma una persona che ha il motore nel sangue,anche se il V8 U.S.A.ha 100,200 hp in meno,non lo cambierebbe mai per uno sterile 4L 2.0
@deadalive7311
@deadalive7311 3 жыл бұрын
Its bad compsrsion. Why You didnt change the rear axle ratio in 2.0 L truck? I think You see the differences betwin blue and red truck 1 gear top speed? In the smaller engine torque is in higher rpms so you need shorten the gear ratio. Sorry for my english.
@DarrenBoxhall
@DarrenBoxhall 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the same, but show the difference in manual box and an auto The autos torque converter is slipping at low rpm even though the engine still makes heaps of torque
@darkmar7yr91
@darkmar7yr91 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the small engine did better, the entire point of boost is to increase your displacement. By the end the 2.0 liter was probably displacing almost as much air as the 6.0 liter anyway.
@oubunsovannreach4818
@oubunsovannreach4818 3 жыл бұрын
This is like Ranger Raptor VS Ram T-Rex😂
@dragon81heart
@dragon81heart 3 жыл бұрын
You actually did this pretty well! And V8 (n/a and turbo) is pretty close to what diesel pickup numbers were back in the 90s, and as far as I’m aware thats about the level that BeamNG lets one go with diesel mods (I do not have this game so correct me if I’m wrong) The more modern light duty diesel V8s have common rail fuel injectors, usually around 30 psi max boost, and some other things that I don’t believe is part of Beam that push their power up to 400+ HP and some are over 1,000 ft lbs of torque And you are very correct, pushing more boost through an engine will make them wear out faster. And getting many many miles out of a diesel is one of their biggest selling points Well done with this video 👍 I really need to get this game lol I will be entertained for days haha
@j01sonofsleazy
@j01sonofsleazy 8 ай бұрын
ford 6.7 power stroke gets 500hp now
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN 2 жыл бұрын
So both have the same transmission? That is already a major mistake making a reasonable comparison impossible. That way, the 4 cylinder has to match the exact same hp and torque rating as well as the performance curve to match the v8. This it wouldn't need, if the transmission was setup for either engine individually.
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 2 жыл бұрын
3:03 again ETK sound
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet Жыл бұрын
This is actually an interesting experiment, because the turbo engine is useless without boost, so you need bough boost to make power to maintain boost going up the hill. It can make way more peak power, but if the revs drop too low, it becomes a brick 😆 I guess what you do here is use a tiny little turbo that can make tons of boost at a very low RPM and just run a ton of boost 😆
@hansy555
@hansy555 3 жыл бұрын
interesting haha. my 2.0 liter n47d20c makes 177 PS and 350 Nm (174 hp, 258 lbft), with almost identical rpm range at peak torque as the first successful 2.0 configuration with a single trailer. so it would be just enough to propel that truck with that transmission over the ramp :D well, good to know haha edit: even funnier, with maximum remap potential for my stock engine (stage 1 - about 225 hp, 350 lbft), it'd just be able to pull those two trailers as well. definitely a nice fit :D
@Nicecardude100
@Nicecardude100 3 жыл бұрын
I have problems with that trailer mod pack. On the car hauler and flatbed it spawns with no rear tires and does not let me put them on in the parts selector
@ForgottenMustard
@ForgottenMustard 3 жыл бұрын
Same problem here. The mod hasn't been updated for the newest build it seems.
@Jannik22000011
@Jannik22000011 3 жыл бұрын
You can download the newest version in a forum.
@Nicecardude100
@Nicecardude100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jannik22000011 where
@HJZ75driver
@HJZ75driver 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nicecardude100 BeamNG forum
@trainman665
@trainman665 3 жыл бұрын
Proves there is a replacement for displacement then his opinion denies it 😂
@lsgdawg2109
@lsgdawg2109 3 жыл бұрын
Plz make more of these we missed you
@yacinealg152
@yacinealg152 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make the 2L i4 to it's appropriate gear box ? With a higher gear ratio
@jasperdomacena6491
@jasperdomacena6491 2 жыл бұрын
Redline on that 2.0L Diesel is a bit too high especially on truck / van applications 😂 4200-4500rpm would be absolute the max!
@andresmarquez5241
@andresmarquez5241 3 жыл бұрын
Theres no replacement for displacement, only stand ins, make a lil 4 banger as powerfull as a v8 and the 4 isnt going to last as long as the 8 just my opiniin from what kind of pressure the block would have to take to make the same torque/hp
@drdaedalus880
@drdaedalus880 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the truck lifting up in the front due to torque is an actual genuine physics simulation, or just mimicked with an upward lifting force programed seperate from the physics programming.
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Imagina colocar o pente na turbina na caminhonete pra ele ficar piando igual a F-1000 kkkkkkkkkkkk
@fab12xd
@fab12xd 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how the game says that there is full boost on the I4 when it's stalling going up hill. You would have to build boost and keep the rpms high for the turbo to actually do something. You don't get full boost for just pressing the gas pedal 😂
@destruxandexploze2552
@destruxandexploze2552 3 жыл бұрын
Small diesel vs Big gas next. I mean we all knew the Big diesel would win... Please
@matthewwester4672
@matthewwester4672 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky duck, my game won't even let me load any of the d series trucks without the front wheels flying off or the trucks themselves just not loading at all:/
@Sithhy
@Sithhy 3 жыл бұрын
Delete your crappy mods or update the game
@yourhero33
@yourhero33 3 жыл бұрын
If you like to build several thousand horsepower towing vehicles on this game I recommend the “I am stronk” driveshaft mod for the d series. It stops the driveshaft from exploding when you have big tires and a shit load of hp
@BillCipher1337
@BillCipher1337 3 жыл бұрын
you could give the 4 cyl a more agressive gearing because of higher max RPM
@Nathan-u2g
@Nathan-u2g 3 жыл бұрын
can i have the link to the 2.0 engine please
@hallenjunge5377
@hallenjunge5377 3 жыл бұрын
6 in a row, ready to tow.
@REWYRED
@REWYRED 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought one, haven't towed with it but the 6.7 Cummins I6 is a sweet engine.
@icky_thump
@icky_thump Жыл бұрын
The simulation of boost is a bit silly here. It would not be pegged out at it's max with the rpms dropping to 2k or less and nearly stalling.
@tobymartinez2594
@tobymartinez2594 3 жыл бұрын
Where Do You Get All These Engines From.
@Sithhy
@Sithhy 3 жыл бұрын
He mods them himself
@Hashpassion
@Hashpassion 2 жыл бұрын
Displacement matters.
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin 3 жыл бұрын
The four cylinder would’ve a much better chance with shorter gear ratios
@brutalknife3928
@brutalknife3928 3 жыл бұрын
Where did You get the 2.0L? Sorry if my English isn't accurate
@brutalknife3928
@brutalknife3928 3 жыл бұрын
@Kresimir Baric idk
@calebreagan3588
@calebreagan3588 3 жыл бұрын
Small diesel sounds like a tractors unit!! Sweet!!!!
@thejwilliams333
@thejwilliams333 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of a un fair challenge when the red truck has a shorter first then the the blue truck horsepower and torque dosent mean anything without the gearing needs for the job
@angelicolagi
@angelicolagi 3 жыл бұрын
Also turbo that goes that boost probably wouldnt even spool below 2k,
@henrique14211
@henrique14211 3 жыл бұрын
You chose the wrong I4 that engine have a rev limiter of almost twice the v8, that indicates the torque is lower compared to an I4 that only revs to 3krpm
@Steve1766
@Steve1766 2 жыл бұрын
also compare 4L gasoline V8 (default) vs Diesel 6.0 V8
@mueez734
@mueez734 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really pissed off the fact this guy is not shifting the gears for the red truck like how he’s supposed to 😔
@hayesfitzgerald3750
@hayesfitzgerald3750 3 жыл бұрын
Mueez that's because its 1st gear only. Durka
@mueez734
@mueez734 3 жыл бұрын
@@hayesfitzgerald3750 that’s dumb 😂 it’s a manual transmission it should have at least 4 gears
@meyawabdulaziz3863
@meyawabdulaziz3863 2 жыл бұрын
yes....both can do the job but one of them will outlive the other
@hanzgrueber145
@hanzgrueber145 2 жыл бұрын
My real life 2.0 turbo I4 gasoline engine is tuned to 16psi of boost which makes about 250hp and 280lb ft of torque. But that’s nothing to what some of the twin turbo or big single turbo I4s make. Mercedes A45 amg hatchback makes 420hp from the factory from a 2.0 twin turbo i4
@ethanhauck9754
@ethanhauck9754 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad that In real life all that boost would blow the motor 😂😂
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Cherrier Tograc swapped Gavril D-Series Blue?
@gabrielvieira6529
@gabrielvieira6529 3 жыл бұрын
The i4 Diesel has the i6 engine texture
@worldhello1234
@worldhello1234 3 жыл бұрын
@9:35 It rhymes and apart from that it is nonesense. There are rotors and magnets, wankel engines and electric motors. Let alone that a turbo needs displacement to generate boost, so it is rather pointless to claim that. Just like claiming the 4 cylinder is less reliable. That is like saying that given enough time, you are right at least once. :D
@heressomeh8radeforya
@heressomeh8radeforya 3 жыл бұрын
Forget everything else, the screen days 17 THOUSAND FT LBS OF TORQUE CANT GET THOSE TRAILERS UP THE HILL?????? SURE
@richardrobinson7645
@richardrobinson7645 2 жыл бұрын
I would've thought the boost would have been higher at higher rpm but it appears it stays high when the rpm drops before they stalled
@markbroad119
@markbroad119 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a 1980's Mercedes M606 inline 4 diesel over a 6.0 V8 any day.
@kamata93
@kamata93 3 жыл бұрын
Game? Nvm. Just saw it in the description xD
@Andy47357
@Andy47357 3 жыл бұрын
at the end of the day a 2.0l will be a 40 hp turd when the turbo fails, seen too many 1.0l i4’s have a failed turbo and its back to 1980 i4’s but in cars with the weight of cars that required a v8 of that era just to move. you boost any v8 with the same psi as a sporty modern car and it will kick its ass and those people think v8’s are a relic of that needs to die.
@sketchmoon3333
@sketchmoon3333 3 жыл бұрын
you should really compare a 3.0-3.5 l diesel v6 vs a 2.0-2.2 diesel i4 because that’s the thing nowadays. no more jeeps or range rovers or whatever with a clasic 3.0 L diesel but now we have 2.0 diesel turbo/biturbo i4
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