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@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB 26 күн бұрын
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@richardmorris8745
@richardmorris8745 25 күн бұрын
Solution 24 teams , 4 six team divisions, you play your division every year and rotate the other 3 each year.
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 25 күн бұрын
Yes
@jamesmckenzie9529
@jamesmckenzie9529 26 күн бұрын
The B1G just got rid of conferences. We can now have games like Ohio St/Oregon. There is not a selling point of going back to severely limiting the games that can be played
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 26 күн бұрын
There could be logistical reasons supporting a return to two divisions. The old B1G West had no blue bloods.Wisconsin and Iowa dominated the west,but neither one could stand up to Michigan,Ohio State,or Penn State. The adoption of Oregon,USC,and Washington to the B1G has added conference winning programs that would give a new 9 school B1G West a credable chance at winning the B1G championship while also reducing travel costs to and from the west coast. USC,Oregon, and Washington all have reputations as blue blood programs whose alums expect to compete for championships. NEW B1G West Oregon, Washington,USC,UCLA, Nebraska,Iowa, Minnesota,Wisconsin, and Northwestern. New B1G East Michigan,Ohio State,Penn State,Michigan State,Rutgers,Maryland,Indiana,Purdue, Indiana, Illinois. Schedule would be 10 conference games with 8 division games followed by 2 out of division games which means each division plays the out of division schools every 4 to 5 years,while protecting most of the biggest rivalries in the overall conference. Sure the Little Brown Jug game between my Gophers and Michigan would become a twice in a decade thing,but Minnesota hasn't been competative against Michigan the last decade anyway. That leaves two FSC games as tune up games and eliminates an out of conference power 5 game. Since multiple B1G and SEC schools are going to get playoff spots in the expanded playoffs, wouldn't it be better if we limit or eliminate regular season matchups among Power 4 schools?
@slten12
@slten12 26 күн бұрын
I agree with you, James. One of the major reasons for bringing in all these high power teams was to have them play each other more often to realize the media value of having Brand vs Brand. By sequestering teams into 10 team divisions, you lose the flexibility of arranging those high value matchups more often, lowering the overall value of the conference's media potential. It seems like with this plan, there are hardly any cross divisional matchups at all. I don't want to see all the former Pac teams play each other all the time. We've seen that for a century already and it gets old. Let's arrange more of these big brand matchups as often as possible. That's what the public wants to see.
@jamesmckenzie9529
@jamesmckenzie9529 26 күн бұрын
@@TheLAGopher First of all, I don't care about travel costs. At least not for football. The eastern teams only travel west once a year anyway. If they instituted divisions for all other sports, I'd be all for it. For football, besides rivalry games, leave it wide open! Second, I would love to have more B1G/SEC in season matchups. There should be a battle weekend where they matchup all or most of the teams from the two conferences. That would be a blast! Alabama/Michigan. LSU/Penn St. Oregon/Tennessee. Also, it would keep USC from backing out of those games. The prime games could be played neutral field. It would be like having mid season bowl games. The teams that don't match up could even play against the Allstate 12 or the Both Coasts Conference teams. Third, I like the idea of having the two best teams play in the championship at the end of the year. I want to see it happen for at least 10 years before they try to go back to divisions again
@jamesmckenzie9529
@jamesmckenzie9529 26 күн бұрын
@@slten12 You are preaching to the choir!
@djv1855
@djv1855 25 күн бұрын
Agree. Conferences are archaic and serve no purpose for football. I appreciate the work the creator put into this video, but the B1G isn’t going back to divisions. It’s self limiting and offers no substantive value. Even the creator admits there is imbalance.
@Curtykobashiy
@Curtykobashiy 26 күн бұрын
Get rid of the OOC games and play a straight conference only schedule.
@N8TheGreatG
@N8TheGreatG 26 күн бұрын
No way that happens for a number of reasons also very boring
@ahills-plays6471
@ahills-plays6471 26 күн бұрын
There’s no chance of that bc games like Iowa vs Iowa st. Or Oregon vs Oregon state. Other teams r rivals with notre dame. Nebraska vs Colorado. USC and ucla probably would wanna play some former PAC12 schools as well.
@joemetallo2183
@joemetallo2183 25 күн бұрын
If they go to divisions I bet they go to 4 5 team divisions..that way you can mix it up The schedule where each would play
@mikef3896
@mikef3896 25 күн бұрын
That will happen once they form a super league
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 25 күн бұрын
Only if the SEC is forced to also.
@kennethfrerichs1884
@kennethfrerichs1884 26 күн бұрын
I am ready for FSU to go to the Big 10.
@JuanHernandez-rm5dm
@JuanHernandez-rm5dm 26 күн бұрын
Boooooooooooo!!!!!!!
@stephenlang7870
@stephenlang7870 26 күн бұрын
Agreed Booooooooo!
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 26 күн бұрын
Cant wait!
@RICOJEEZUS
@RICOJEEZUS 25 күн бұрын
Nah let them stay in the south
@troyv8302
@troyv8302 26 күн бұрын
Maybe four five team pods would work. All 5 teams in your pod play each other and rotate pods each year. That way all teams are playing each other at least every 3 years. Not a fan of more expansion but at least this way all teams would play at least 3 times in a decade. Just a thought.
@joncare8083
@joncare8083 25 күн бұрын
This is the way. I'd add FSU & UNC (fu*k ND). It sets up nicely...... East FSU-UNC-PSU-Mary-RU Mideast UM-OSU-MSU--PU-IU Midwest NW-Ill-UW-Minn-Iowa West UN-OU-UW-UCLA-USC Nebraska would have to schedule non-conference games with Iowa to keep the rivalry.
@AnNguyen-kn1tq
@AnNguyen-kn1tq 25 күн бұрын
agree! been saying this. Pod system/four 5-team divisions way better than two 10 team divisions. More opportunities to play the other teams in the conference regularly.
@stephenlang7870
@stephenlang7870 26 күн бұрын
Pods would be the answer. You would play the 4 in your pod yearly, then two from each of the other pods. 10 conference games a year. Then have a 4 team conference playoff.
@TheLwaller09
@TheLwaller09 26 күн бұрын
The problem with that is that the two losers of the conference semifinal playoff, would have played one less conference game than the two teams that won and move on to play in the conference championship game. Meaning you just screwed over your 3rd/4th place teams from effectively getting a chance at the 12 team CFP. Unless they played each other the following weekend as well, before the conference championship game for 3rd place in a game that exactly 0 people would watch outside those two fanbases lol
@AnNguyen-kn1tq
@AnNguyen-kn1tq 25 күн бұрын
@@TheLwaller09 ppl would watch at worst, it'd be just as televisible as any conference regular season game. It wouldnt need to be marketed as 3rd place. And if anything, in a strong conf season, playing for 3rd in B1G would probably be considered a play-in for the playoff.
@webmoore4353
@webmoore4353 22 күн бұрын
Rotating pods by historical strength. Keep historical rivalries. 10 conference games. Go to 24: FSU, Miami, UNC, Clemson (or whoever UNC prefers of Clemson, Virginia or Duke). Then ND + Stanford. Never expand again. Hold B1G championship in Dallas or Houston for recruiting help and to be unbiased. Let’s go!😅
@sc100ott
@sc100ott 26 күн бұрын
Soooo, what you’re saying is Big Ten: Michigan Michigan State Ohio State Rutgers Maryland Penn State Indiana Purdue Florida State Notre Dame And the PAC 10 Washington Oregon USC UCLA Nebraska Minnesota Wisconsin Iowa Northwestern Illinois Sounds like 1978 all over again, albeit slightly different teams.
@Almighty5-ww1kl
@Almighty5-ww1kl 26 күн бұрын
Looks like FSU going be all over the country
@mark8337
@mark8337 26 күн бұрын
I think the Big Ten will get to 22-24 teams. I have my best guesses on those 4-6 more. However, I do not favor going back to any divisions or pods. Actually, if they expand the playoffs to 16 teams, I prefer to have no Conference Championship. Just designate one based upon win/loss and tie breakers. If they were to go to a 16 team playoff, the Big Ten would get 4-5 teams into the playoffs and I really don’t see the point to continuing with a Conference Championship game.
@Bond007fan
@Bond007fan 25 күн бұрын
I would love FL St and ND to come in. ND is in the heart of Big Ten. Travel would be a lot easier. Fl St is a good fit for Big Ten despite distance. Better Schedule solution ! NO NON CONF GAMES all 12 Big ten games. 9 in your division, 3 in other division. Our non-conference will be in the playoffs. better strength of schedule, keep rivalries in other division.
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 26 күн бұрын
No thanks on divisions. Rutgers finally got away from OSU, PSU, and Michigan. Rutgers will probably win at least 10 games this year and that's good for the B1G. Let the lower and mid tier teams mostly play against each other to build them up. Why does Ohio State need to play Indiana every year? I can't think of a single valid reason. Realignment is about money and the money wants to see the big matchups, not Ohio State thrashing Indiana. Let Indiana build up to an 8-4 team, then they can get a shot in the future.
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 25 күн бұрын
Which Indiana was becoming somewhat respectability pre Covid
@goblue636
@goblue636 26 күн бұрын
2 divisions of 10 teams is a bad idea just keep it the way it is NO DIVISIONS
@TestSubject38
@TestSubject38 26 күн бұрын
It works better with 22 teams and no divisions. Three protected games by rivals or location. Same every year. Play the other 18 teams on a three year rotation. 6 per year. Leaves 3 out of confrence games. Best two teams play for the championship.
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB 26 күн бұрын
Decent model, but leaves open the issue of frequent ties for championship game appearance with no head to head.
@TestSubject38
@TestSubject38 26 күн бұрын
@MarkRogersVOCFB with 20+ teams, it's going to happen regardless. Tiebreakers would be confrence wins, then the strength of the schedule wins. It happens already. Works even with 10 confrence games and 24 teams. Same set up. Play everyone every three years.
@fu-fucuddlypoops6583
@fu-fucuddlypoops6583 25 күн бұрын
I think it’d make sense for the B1G to add Notre Dame and Stanford. Then you don’t play in divisions; each team has 4 locked in opponents based on rivalries and region (for example Notre Dame would play USC, Stanford, Purdue, and Michigan every year) then the other 5 games are rotated through the remaining conference opponents every year. If done correctly, every team would play each other in a 3 year span (5 years if you do home-and-homes before rotating).
@CoachHoffmanOL
@CoachHoffmanOL 25 күн бұрын
I have a feeling that the last domino to fall in landing Notre Dame is taking Stanford. The B1G would have all of the Irish's main rivals locked up. Personally, I think Notre Dame would play USC, Stanford, Purdue and Michigan State. ND/MSU has been played a lot more than ND/UM.
@jeremygonzalez2230
@jeremygonzalez2230 26 күн бұрын
You have to compare records playing against the other division otherwise a comparison makes no sense.
@OhBoy937
@OhBoy937 26 күн бұрын
Miami & FSU should be in the East with Maryland, Penn State and Rutgers those teams have somewhat history playing one another. If ND joins down the line you go to 24 they’ll bring Stanford & Cal or one of Utah, Colorado, Kansas. ND goes to the East with their familiar teams, Stanford and Cal to the West. Utah, Colorado or Kansas goes to the Mid Central with Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Purdue, Iowa, North East: Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois West: Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington East: Penn St, Maryland, Notre Dame, Florida State, Miami, Rutgers If FSU doesn’t come Pittsburgh would fit nicely into the Big 10 East or even if they do come Maybe Pitt would be better instead of Kansas, Colorado or Utah and move Notre Dame to the Mid Central Division.
@sheas7395
@sheas7395 18 күн бұрын
6 or 8 team B10 conference playoffs. Start it two weeks before the conference championship. Each team leaves their last three games open with tentative opponents And if by the end of week, nine, which ever teams qualify for the playoff start in the playoff. The teams that lose can play their tentative open schedules the teams that win will continue on. Now you have a playoff system without adding games to the schedule.
@jacksonvaughn2111
@jacksonvaughn2111 23 күн бұрын
I got it. 4 divisions with 5 teams each. Every year the divisions are paired up (east might be with west one year and central the next) and that forms your 9 game schedule. The best team from these 10 game sets meet in the B1G title game. The division that you play rotates every year, so you still see every team once every 3 years, and you still play your geographic division every season.
@toddgwinn8395
@toddgwinn8395 26 күн бұрын
Four divisions would be better IMO
@AJC1972
@AJC1972 17 күн бұрын
B1G needs to add two more good teams so that their name makes sense again, since only half of the conference will be relevant.
@lawrencemora2826
@lawrencemora2826 21 күн бұрын
Lame... When listing great rivalries, you forgot about the greatest Intersectional Rivalry in College Football USC & ND. You place them in this stupid scenario, you destroy that game!
@gregnelson1330
@gregnelson1330 21 күн бұрын
Arizona is now Big 12 so my concern is there. I love Yormarksdesire to go coast to coast with uber teams! And an eye on basketball! In that situation I have 3 divisions, mostly intended for use in the Non-revenue sports. Division Ratio 14/3/3. Reduces travel costs and wear & tear. B1G should also consider Esst, West & Central Divisions. My West would be Gonzaga (noFb), Colorado, Utah*, BYU*, ASU*, Arizona*, TCU* & Texas Tech*. My Central would be Marquette (noFb), Louisville, Iowa St, Oklahoma St, Kansas St*, Kansas*, Baylor* & Houston*. My East would be UConn (noFb), Cinconnati, WVU, Virginia Tech, Duke*, NCST*, UCF* & Miami*. 21 Football schools, 3 games in Division. 5 games in other 2 Divisions. 1 Semi's (4 v 1 & 3 v 2, per records) & match-up games. 24 Basketball schools. 2 Coaches Poll 1-3, 4-6, 7-9... 22-24. 6 non-con. 23 Regular Season Round Robin. Holiday, Big 12 & NCAA Tournaments.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 21 күн бұрын
Why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks go to the Tier 2 BIG12?
@petercurtis348
@petercurtis348 25 күн бұрын
Colorado alum here, with all the bias that comes with that allegiance. It seems like 20 teams is good, but 24 would be better. Add Notre Dame. Then take the 4 most “Big Ten” schools left on the board and grab them. That’s UVA, UNC, Colorado and Utah. You would then have a presence in - and third viewing window for TV - with owning the rapidly growing Mountain Time Zone. And you would add balance to the eastern seaboard. All these schools are absolute cultural and academic fits - all AAU-accredited, flagship state schools. And while academic matter less and less in college football, the Big Ten expands their reach without compromising their defining principles. What’s more, you could easily break up the teams into 4 6-team regional pods to preserve rivalries. Think of this: WESTERN Pacific: Washington Oregon USC UCLA Utah Colorado Midlands: Nebraska Minnesota Wisconsin Iowa Illinois Northwestern Central: Indiana Purdue Ohio State Michigan Michigan State Notre Dame Eastern (ACC revival) Penn State (could be flipped with ND) Rutgers Maryland Virginia North Carolina Florida State Would this approach be appealing? Or, would this dilute the brand by making it a truly national conference?
@Atwater20
@Atwater20 26 күн бұрын
The two 10 team divisions still has the same problem as before, despite what was stated, the west division winner still gets an easy ride. The numbers are deceptive since the western division played far more games against weak teams. There is not a competitive balance, sorry Mark. I still gave you a thumbs up for trying.
@bullyear1973
@bullyear1973 25 күн бұрын
Wisconsin was getting easy rides the last few years. Not gonna happen in the new big10 west division. It's now gonna be either oregon or usc going to the conference championship games every years
@KeepChoppin
@KeepChoppin 24 күн бұрын
I 100% agree with no divisions. However, look at some of the schedules this year. There is a very real chance a team like Rutgers or Iowa makes the B1G CCG. It's not because they are great, it's because they have very soft schedules. There is no way around the soft schedules.
@devinc1347
@devinc1347 24 күн бұрын
@@bullyear1973 HUH USC....not a great take. Reggie Bush is now on Fox not playing football. USC has not been relevant in years. Yet you slam Wisconsin, far better than USC in recent years. Wisconsin would still be VERY completive in the "new" Big Ten West.
@richardprice3070
@richardprice3070 14 күн бұрын
Eliminate non conference games.play 13 games (every 3 months has 13 weeks). 9 division and four opposite division. Every 5 years you play home and home with each other division.
@scotttaranto7870
@scotttaranto7870 22 күн бұрын
4 five team pods, each team plays all teams in their pod each year and rotates the other pods on a two year (home and away) schedule. Head to head for the paired pod winners determines who goes to championship game.
@braddorholt1070
@braddorholt1070 26 күн бұрын
Good Morning from Dublin! I hate to say this but 4 pods of 6 teams 6 pods of 4 teams (24 total) is easier to manage. If SEC adopts the 24 team league also, then pod swapping for non-conference becomes very easy. Time will tell, but I believe we are headed to 24 teams in the SEC, B12 and B1G.
@Gh0stRider
@Gh0stRider 26 күн бұрын
Agree with pods ideas. But how about 5 5 team pods. Allows the B1G to have a southern pod (FL State, Miami, UNC, UVA, GA Tech). Play everyone in your pod and at least 1 team in the other 4 pods. Winner of the pod goes on to CFP. Best performer in CFP is crowned B1G champ.
@kizitokatende412
@kizitokatende412 25 күн бұрын
I will prolly get hate for this but I'd love the SEC and Big Ten to both expand to 20 teams and split from the rest and create their own league with them as the two conferences (like AFC and NFC). Then gimme a 14 game regular season with 11 conference games with a 3-8-8 scheduling model. No divisions, 3 protections, and everybody plays everybody over a 2 year span. 1 non con game against a cupcake, and 2 non con games against teams in the other conference that finished around where you finished the previous season like the NFL does it. Don't have a singular conference title game and instead have an NFL style playoffs with 14 teams qualifying. 7 from each conference with the #1 seed in each conference after the regular season getting a bye. You play through the playoff bracket with postseason games hosted by the higher seed. The conference title games are basically NFC/AFC title games. U can have those in Indy or in Atlanta if you want. Then the champions of those conferences play in the natty (Superbowl) to end the year. The winner is crowned the national champion This model gets rid of a subjective committee and subjective rankings, takes scheduling out of the hands of the schools, balances schedules every season to make sure the best teams are playing each other consistently, and maintains the purity of CFB rivalries while also having the chance to create new ones.
@danielmarley9922
@danielmarley9922 19 күн бұрын
If you want to go to 20 teams, kick out Rutgers, Northwestern, and Maryland. Add Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, UNC, and Duke. Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Wisocnsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, UNC, Duke.
@LogoTimeClark
@LogoTimeClark 22 күн бұрын
I don't see much value in non conference games going forward. I would say the B1G might consider treating some football games against conference members as nonconference games. You need to keep as much revenue in house as possible. Games against Big XII and ACC schools don't make sense economically. The stadiums are smaller and travel cost can be expensive for coastal schools. There hasn't been enough out of the box thinking on scheduling.
@JamesDavis-dn3wo
@JamesDavis-dn3wo 26 күн бұрын
You are putting OSU, Michigan and Penn State back together in one division. They should be spread out.
@TheLwaller09
@TheLwaller09 26 күн бұрын
So they would never play each other? 😂 how do you imagine that's going to go over with those tv partners that just unloaded the Brinks trucks for that shiny new media rights deal?
@JamesDavis-dn3wo
@JamesDavis-dn3wo 25 күн бұрын
@@TheLwaller09 I wouldn't say never. The schedule this year has Michigan playing OSU but not PSU. This would change from year to year.
@dlamb8048
@dlamb8048 25 күн бұрын
Reconsider the four five team division office and revisit please. With four five team divisions, you'd play your four division rivals and one other division. Every division would be aligned against another division on a three year rotation. Each season, the two divisions that are paired together would provide one regular season champion. The other two divisions would provide the other. Using Ohio State and Oregon as an example and assuming they are in different division, one oof every three years they would fight for one of the regular season titles and a berth in the conference championship game. The other two seasons they could meet in the conference championship game. This gives more combinations to championship games, and more regular season games with championship game implications.
@steveturansky9031
@steveturansky9031 26 күн бұрын
Digest these changes for a couple years, then go to 24 teams in 4 pods. Then a few more years until it's 32 teams in both monster conferences (B1G, SEC). Let the scraps reform into a lower tier conferences, also with 2 - 32 team conferences.
@larrybass9184
@larrybass9184 24 күн бұрын
Forget outside conference games. 12 conference games. Nine with those in your division and three in the other division. on rotation. Larry Bass / M’67 / Sacramento
@ericpollitt7910
@ericpollitt7910 22 күн бұрын
As someone who used to live in MI, they got more beef with Minn & Wisc than IU or IL schools.
@johnw3922
@johnw3922 25 күн бұрын
If I ran the Big Ten, I'd make a major play to be a truly national brand. Bringing in Florida State, Clemson, and North Carolina seems obvious at the moment. What's not so obvious is that the Big Ten has a real shot at becoming the dominate brand in the State of Texas. Texas Tech & TCU would be easy to pick up for spots 22 and 23 BUT I am willing to bet the Big Ten could also persuade Texas A&M to leave the SEC after the SEC went back on their word and allowed the Longhorns into the conference behind the Aggies back. With A&M being tied with Texas for the biggest brand in the State, then Texas Tech coming in at a solid #3 and TCU being in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, the Big Ten would over night wrestle the State of Texas away from both the Big 12 and SEC.
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 25 күн бұрын
Any setup that helps knock Iowa down to where it should be - 3-4 losses per year is where the world should be.
@sammalone4766
@sammalone4766 24 күн бұрын
I can’t believe you picked Illinois at 16 this year in the conference.
@matthiasfranzen2247
@matthiasfranzen2247 26 күн бұрын
I've been in favor of this for awhile with 16 teams but would work with 20. Have 4 divisions of 5 teams. That way your 9 games are 4 within your division and 5 from another division. Division winners play in a four team big ten tournament.
@joncare8083
@joncare8083 25 күн бұрын
ND,UM,OSU,PSU & FSU are too much in one division.
@phillyliverpoolfc4079
@phillyliverpoolfc4079 19 күн бұрын
How does this effect College Basketball & Baseball
@peterlaudan3774
@peterlaudan3774 24 күн бұрын
We need 3 - 24 team conferences, with 4 - 6 team regional divisions. 16 team play-off that includes conference championships, plus a wild card bracket of 4 highest ranked non divion championship.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын
As built on the existing SEC and B1G, only 2 ~24 team P2s are needed. The realignment is about contraction via consolidation. There is no longer a feasible path to a peer P3.
@field5622
@field5622 25 күн бұрын
I like the two 10 team divisions. However drop the three nonconference games, play all 9 division opponents plus 3 crossover games against the other division
@SteinMeister72
@SteinMeister72 26 күн бұрын
If you want static divisions, it has to be 4 divisions of 5. Have a semi-final week and a championship. Or... Two divisions reseeded every year
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 25 күн бұрын
MW division is all Indiana and Michigan schools. Wisconsin to central. We get Indiana v Notre Dame more often
@goblue9828
@goblue9828 26 күн бұрын
If the B1G gets larger than 18 teams, I see the sport turning into a 3 prong version of the NFL...SEC, BIG 12, B1G. Each then has 3 divisions that then represent your seeding for the playoffs and divisions in the conference not affectedby lack of play withintheconference. Top record in each division gets 1-9. 10-12 go to best record g5 teams.
@waynebennett745
@waynebennett745 25 күн бұрын
As with the SEC, annual rivalries are an important factor to scheduling. From reading the comments, very few have tried to incorporate them into their scheduling ideas. Most of you say your 4 pod mates, another pod all together (or some random makeup for the other 5 games). Personally, I would HATE not having them yearly on the schedule. &, like I tell my fellow SEC fans: WHY should a CONFERENCE rival NOT be played as a CONFERENCE game & treated as a non-conference just to appease others?
@petequigley5269
@petequigley5269 26 күн бұрын
Have a 1/9/9 format. One rival annually. Nine teams on odd years. Nine teams on even years.
@randrothify
@randrothify 24 күн бұрын
A Big 10 x 2 makes sense but if it happens there needs to be relegation if there are divisions and relegation means no shot at the playoffs to make relegation mean something. Preferably no divisions.
@mwg500
@mwg500 26 күн бұрын
Everybody rambled about the PAC-12 dissolving, but really when Washington/Oregon followed USC/UCLA it all just became Big 10 Pacific Coast. I kinda like the idea of Big 10 being renamed "Big East" and "Big West" though we do need some cross-country match-ups. FWIW, I could see the Big 12 being renamed something like "Heartland Conference" and ACC maybe being "Coastal" (especially if it absorbs Washington St., Oregon St.). SEC basically stays SEC but says it stands for something like "Super Elite Conference".
@crabcakesandfootball4619
@crabcakesandfootball4619 25 күн бұрын
No divisions, H/H, pct, common opponent tie breaker. 2 OOC games with 9 scheduled and with 3 weeks remaining schedule the 10th game (mini playoff).
@huskerjpg
@huskerjpg 23 күн бұрын
Everyone wants their protected rivalries. Bite the bullet, get rid of the protected rivalries, and you play everybody else once every two years.
@RaymondPexton
@RaymondPexton 16 күн бұрын
Florida state and Clemson are heading for SEC
@jamesmccarthy6274
@jamesmccarthy6274 26 күн бұрын
Yup, that West model is so much easier.
@kennethkissinger3590
@kennethkissinger3590 26 күн бұрын
No nonconference, play 2 cross-over games, and the 10 division games
@user-cu2fy2hb3k
@user-cu2fy2hb3k 18 күн бұрын
Divisions equal no competition
@huskerjpg
@huskerjpg 23 күн бұрын
The only guaranteed outcome is that the Big10 will take care of OSU and MI.
@user-cu2fy2hb3k
@user-cu2fy2hb3k 18 күн бұрын
North Carolina not Florida state
@justinsmutek8541
@justinsmutek8541 25 күн бұрын
As a Terps fan, god no to divisions
@robertduffield5979
@robertduffield5979 25 күн бұрын
4 regions into 2 divisions
@jonclements4754
@jonclements4754 23 күн бұрын
What if Clemson and FSU goes to the Big Ten than where would that put ND?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 22 күн бұрын
The same Fantasyland?
@TheLwaller09
@TheLwaller09 26 күн бұрын
There is no way ND joins a conference with one of their biggest rivals (USC) in the other division that they're never able to play unless they both make the Big10 title game in the same year. Because that would almost guarantee they would rarely if ever play. I don't claim to have a solution, but that's not going to work. It would also be insanely tough to have them play a 10 game conference schedule and maintain their Stanford rivalry given that Stanford has a new ACC (for now) schedule to manage and finding when they could play if ND only has 2 non-con games they can schedule. If you're trying to get the prettiest girl at school to go to the dance with you, you can't offer her dead flowers and expect her to say yes. Killing two of their biggest rivalry games in one decision isn't going to make ND want to jump at the chance to join especially when we know they're really as against it as they've always been, but their environment is changing so they may be forced to. But they aren't going to willingly agree to those things, no way.
@BigDogsRUSS
@BigDogsRUSS 25 күн бұрын
Not buying these numbers, for example, when was the last time a west team won the Big Ten? OSU and Michigan have dominated the last ten years. The numbers are flawed also due to the west overall being weaker. Penn St. would have dominated the west many of the past 10 years, but then not so much in the Big Ten championship game. Just my opinion. I do like the idea of getting some combo of ND, FSU, North Carolina or Clemson in 👍🏼 No east/west for me.
@smh0825
@smh0825 26 күн бұрын
The universities would never agree to play Michigan or Ohio State once every 10 years. Too much money lost if those games don’t exist. The only way a 20-team conference works is with 4 divisions of 5 teams each. Then you can schedule by playing one other division each year as well as your own every year - that solves the tiebreaker dilemma as well as not going too long without playing other major school. And you won’t lose the non-conference games. Then the big 10 title game is determined by the top 2 division winners, and the other 2 division winners still get automatic bids to the playoff as lower seeds. That’s probably the easiest way to do it but it would probably never happen.
@hummushero9428
@hummushero9428 26 күн бұрын
20 teams, 4 pods of 5, then have a 4 team conference playoff.
@smh0825
@smh0825 26 күн бұрын
@@hummushero9428 I almost did the same but that would greatly disadvantage the conference champ and runner up with one less week of rest and preparation than the rest of the field
@slten12
@slten12 26 күн бұрын
When it comes to large unwieldy conference schedules, I think the Big Ten are already on the right track now with the flex schedule with only necessary protected rivalries. Divisions are not necessary and they can cause unfair, unbalanced schedules. Penn State was only the 3rd best program in the B1G East, but if you put them in the B1G West, they might have won the division every year.
@hummushero9428
@hummushero9428 26 күн бұрын
@@smh0825 well yeah it would only be suitable if each major conference adopted the model, and perhaps played a third place game, and also probably scrapped one Non-con game.
@sofakingmagoo
@sofakingmagoo 25 күн бұрын
Why do you need divisions ?
@phillyliverpoolfc4079
@phillyliverpoolfc4079 19 күн бұрын
Didn’t they just get rid of the divisions.
@sunshinedesign
@sunshinedesign 26 күн бұрын
5 team divisions
@DefaultModeNetwork
@DefaultModeNetwork 25 күн бұрын
Well as a Minnesota fan I’m not too fond of it but seriously Minnesota is only an after thought anyway so I, like most Mn fans will probably just lose interest and worry about our five professional teams. Sorry CFB, you just out greeded some of your fans. Honestly, except for the novelty of occasionally playing a west coast team USC and UCLA, Oregon and Washington don’t do much for me. BTW, looking at TV coverage I need to buy five different streaming services to see the first five games, some of which I’ve never heard of. Thanks but no thanks.
@CALimonE
@CALimonE 23 күн бұрын
@@DefaultModeNetworkWe need the Golden Bears vs the Golden Gophers!!!🙂
@teeduck
@teeduck 25 күн бұрын
Big ten won’t expand again unless it’s ND
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын
Yes please
@JK-bn8ik
@JK-bn8ik 26 күн бұрын
Please no divisions. The Big Ten tried that and it was a dismal failure. The eastern division based on geography will end up being way stronger than the western and the idea of only playing some of these schools once a decade is ridiculous. No divisions. The only people that liked the divisions were those in the weak western division.
@otisjohnjr.3023
@otisjohnjr.3023 26 күн бұрын
Why not just return to the post WWII original 10?
@jimmyj422
@jimmyj422 17 күн бұрын
I want my PAC-12 back.
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB 17 күн бұрын
I’d like to give it back to you.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 26 күн бұрын
How about three divisions of seven?
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB 26 күн бұрын
I’ve done that video. Thanks Gregory.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 26 күн бұрын
@@MarkRogersVOCFB I probably subconsciously picked up that idea from you!
@tomrippey5231
@tomrippey5231 26 күн бұрын
I think B1G should just go to 24 and 11 conference games.
@toddgwinn8395
@toddgwinn8395 26 күн бұрын
At least you could play every team once every four years minimum
@conmaz
@conmaz 26 күн бұрын
Love your analysis 😊😊😊
@blizzardwarning5198
@blizzardwarning5198 24 күн бұрын
This is easy. Get rid of the conf champ game. With the expanded playoffs it is really not necessary.
@blizzardwarning5198
@blizzardwarning5198 24 күн бұрын
The regular season scheduling flexibility is off the charts better with no conf champ game. Do it maybe in a context of 4 divisions, playoff expansion to 16 teams, no conf champ game and then automatic bid to 2 or 3 division winners.
@blizzardwarning5198
@blizzardwarning5198 24 күн бұрын
Automatically avoids the possibility of teams playing each other 3 times in a season.
@blizzardwarning5198
@blizzardwarning5198 24 күн бұрын
If no divisions then the same 2 or 3 automatic bids applies.
@bryanemmel6516
@bryanemmel6516 26 күн бұрын
With the advent of NIL eventually there will be none of the talented athletes playing for a university. Coirporate sponsored clubs will form like the soccer feeder programs in Europe. If a player can come out of hight school and make $500k his first year out, why would he bother to pretend to be a student somewhere when he can play and practice intensely befor moving up to the next lever of profession football? NIL nas already ruined the sport for me personally but we'll have to see what else develops in the future.
@sgtpickles1319
@sgtpickles1319 26 күн бұрын
Much prefer a protected rivals model. Going to 10 conference games is not unreasonable.
@user-cu2fy2hb3k
@user-cu2fy2hb3k 18 күн бұрын
Uva unc clemson fsu ga tech
@kevineberhardt4431
@kevineberhardt4431 25 күн бұрын
FLORIDA STATE AND MIAMI HURRICANE 🌀 TO THE SEC.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын
~0% chance
@blakdrifterok2147
@blakdrifterok2147 26 күн бұрын
Now we are getting really stupid here having too many teams in a conference doesn't make sense now it's just my opinion so I don't want to hear anything about it i am just giving my input on this.
@purpleivory2
@purpleivory2 26 күн бұрын
Clown world, fully agree.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 26 күн бұрын
How can and why would ND join to make a 20-team B1G? Low incentives from the ND perspective, too many entanglements with the ACC.
@__hjg__2123
@__hjg__2123 10 күн бұрын
lol...where does this shit come from? ND ain't joining the B1G - they didn't need the ACC and they sure as shit don't need it anymore with a 12 team Playoff and B1G ain't going back to divisions ..they sucked and we all saw that.
@Lonestarmaple
@Lonestarmaple 25 күн бұрын
Your record comparison between conferences is weak. Ohio state predominately wins the conference, while Penn State and Michigan occasionally win the conference. The records are skewed by the lesser teams. You have to split up the top teams for real competitive balance. Again putting Ohio state, um and Penn state together makes one division so much more difficult.
@mikerodgers7620
@mikerodgers7620 24 күн бұрын
MICHIGAN is predominantly winning now not Ohio State. Fool.
@jacsbein
@jacsbein 26 күн бұрын
Rip the band-aid off and drop NW, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland. Then add FSU, Miami, Clemson, and ND SEC drops Vandy and adds UNC Merge B1G and SEC, 32 team super league, 2 conferences, 4 (4 team) divisions each conference. 12 team playoff, division winners get automatic bid. 4 at-large bids.
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 26 күн бұрын
Request denied.
@jacsbein
@jacsbein 25 күн бұрын
@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826the networks are about bringing the best brands to the league, so it doesn’t make any sense to have multiple schools from states like Indiana and Illinois taking up real estate. Eventually some are going to have to go
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 25 күн бұрын
What would they call the NW, IU, Ill, Rut, MD, Pur, Vandy conference? 🤡
@jacsbein
@jacsbein 24 күн бұрын
@@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc unwatchable
@kevinpayne3175
@kevinpayne3175 25 күн бұрын
No thank you, we just got rid of the divisions.
@sammyvillena9777
@sammyvillena9777 26 күн бұрын
Promotion /relegation. Bottom team from a ten team league gets demoted to the bottom ten. Top league gets MORE money as bottom league gets G5 money.
@buckeyeintexas4709
@buckeyeintexas4709 26 күн бұрын
You have to hope that the BIG will save more teams from the ACC then they did from the PAC. The embarrassment of Utah, Arizona and ASU joining the leftovers is still hard to handle for those schools, fanbases and academic minds. You are known by the company you keep and being associated with the likes of West Virginia, Cincinnati and Kansas St yells the world your brand is worthless!!! To have someone like Duke, North Carolina and any schools from the ACC with the leftovers would just be sad and disgraceful
@slten12
@slten12 26 күн бұрын
The way those elitist four corners Pac schools (CU, UU, UA & ASU) look down on the rest of the Big 12 is how the Big Ten look down the four corners as scrubs. The Big Ten wants to bring in exceptional schools that would compete at the top of the Big Ten, athletically and academically, like Washington. They don't want to bring in scrub four corners schools that will compete at the bottom half of the Big Ten, academically and in terms of viewership.
@jamesstone9213
@jamesstone9213 25 күн бұрын
Well aren't we special
@CALimonE
@CALimonE 26 күн бұрын
They need to add CALfurd as they should have when they took Oregon and Washington. 🐻 🌲 🪓
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 25 күн бұрын
Sounds like a manure out the SJ valley : CALfurd
@robert5755
@robert5755 25 күн бұрын
get rid of maryland and rutgers and add cal and stanford
@CALimonE
@CALimonE 25 күн бұрын
@@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc its too expensive to produce manure in California lol
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 25 күн бұрын
@@robert5755 Nah. Keep that California manure out west where they belong.
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 24 күн бұрын
@@robert5755 - agreed. We never needed those two to recruit east anyway.
@thomasmceldowney4783
@thomasmceldowney4783 23 күн бұрын
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@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 22 күн бұрын
For what purpose an even larger and wider Tier 2 BIG12?
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