Simplest power bank ever?

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bigclivedotcom

bigclivedotcom

5 жыл бұрын

This somewhat exaggerated power bank has one of the simplest circuit boards I've seen yet. Just 5 components and the connectors.
To keep the chip's pin count low it uses the arrangement of the charge and output USB sockets in parallel. That means that it has to dip the voltage briefly every couple of seconds to check if a charger has been connected. That results in a very short, but noticeable pulse in the output if a light is connected.
The chip also detects if the load is low and will switch off into a standby mode. Not great for low current loads like low power lights. The one plus feature it has is a very low quiescent current of 11uA when it does go into standby. The stay-on current is 40mA and above.
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@bobs12andahalf2
@bobs12andahalf2 5 жыл бұрын
2600mAh is the lifetime capacity. Dies after third use.
@j.cheeverloophole9029
@j.cheeverloophole9029 5 жыл бұрын
It does come with a lifetime warranty... It explodes and kills you on the 3rd charge
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
@@j.cheeverloophole9029 Don't give fanatics any ideas.
@valveman12
@valveman12 5 жыл бұрын
@@j.cheeverloophole9029 Then you better check your laptop, Phone, Tablet, etc. because those batteries were created in the same country! Yeah, I know your comment was sarcasm. It does make you think how really safe any of these batteries actually are!
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 5 жыл бұрын
@yehoutube If a Telsa car battery pack goes faulty, well, I will see it from here!!!
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 5 жыл бұрын
The exact same powebank got recalled in The Netherlands for fire hazard....
@ItsMrAssholeToYou
@ItsMrAssholeToYou 5 жыл бұрын
Our hero, Big Clive, became sour On false claims of USB power He put-off his rest Until he could test Their true rate of milliamp-hour
@MrSonny6155
@MrSonny6155 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh.
@teslacoil4335
@teslacoil4335 5 жыл бұрын
wow.
@freemind2pointo
@freemind2pointo 5 жыл бұрын
~D A N K P O E T R Y~
@NorthernXP
@NorthernXP 5 жыл бұрын
"Wanting to hear poems I came; all I heard was shit Haikus fucking suck" ~ Sly Clop, Triple X
@bijeshshrestha2450
@bijeshshrestha2450 5 жыл бұрын
Don't post poetry Where you need shit
@seanet1310
@seanet1310 5 жыл бұрын
That was very caring of your brother, checking the candy was ok while you were away
@i.suk.6146
@i.suk.6146 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't do a very good job, it looks like most of them got away!
@3dlabs99
@3dlabs99 5 жыл бұрын
He kept a close eye on the condition by taking frequent samples
@erfinderwerkstatt
@erfinderwerkstatt 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! These are available as kits from Ali, and I've bought a bag full of those power bank cases. We then recycled "dead" laptop batteries, took out the working cells, and made power banks for the workshop's students :-) They are good enough to charge your phone if no other options are available, or power some small Arduino robots :-)
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 Жыл бұрын
Perfect second life for old laptop batteries. I’ve got a large collection myself, and they’re definitely perfect for those sorts of applications. [Some of them don’t do well for things like charging phones because the voltage drops heavily at high current, and most 5V output boards I’ve used will cut it off and leave a fair amount of power left when the voltage rebounds]
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 5 жыл бұрын
What's a 2000mAh rounding error between friends?
@Omnishredder
@Omnishredder 5 жыл бұрын
A pack of burgers
@DrexProjects
@DrexProjects 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's 2600 micro amps. Which is 2.6 mili amps. In that case you got almost 3 times more than advertised. Bonus!
@Berkeloid0
@Berkeloid0 5 жыл бұрын
I love these devices as they are a great way to get free power banks. You buy them off eBay (the ones that are very obviously fake), measure the true capacity, complain to the seller that they sold you a fake item, and the seller gives you a refund so you don't spoil the nice scheme they have going. I've gotten a number of free power banks this way, and because they are coming from scammers I don't feel the least bit guilty! Same applies to 18650 cells and the like. I've often wondered how far you could push the scheme before they give up and start labelling the capacity honestly...like could you build your own DIY powerwall entirely from free scam batteries? Hmm...
@stalwartcomputers5182
@stalwartcomputers5182 5 жыл бұрын
We got a good supplier who tried to push us some 1500mAh 18650s as 8000mAh we had never gotten batterys from before but good LEDs,COBs,project boards etc from, not knowing we test all cells on intake & test capacity before DIY/usage (never selling unless genuine samsungs) & they gave us 50pcs of fake marked/wrapped cells so we ended up with a few 1500mAh for torches/projects etc with a full refund (it helps if you can show fakes & they cant argue with pictures/data shown 0-100% charge capacity 🙈🙊)
@dalehorton7748
@dalehorton7748 5 жыл бұрын
While I don't have much of a problem with this concept *now*, this line of thinking has made things much harder for consumers. Years ago it was super easy to spot fakes, as they'd always have an absurd capacity rating of >4000mAh (eg those terrible "9900mAh" 18650s that are actually about 500mAh). While this was a problem for complete strangers to electronics, I was actually quite happy with the situation. Scammer vendors will always exist, you arent going to dispute them all into oblivion, but it meant that anyone who knew anything about the batteries used, could very easily know if a device was fake, with a simple rule (if its under 3500mAh, its probably real, if its over 3500mAh, its definitely fake). However people buying all the obvious fakes then demanding a refund due to them not meeting the physically impossible capacity rating, even though they knew full well it was fake before buying it, has led such vendors to give their units less absurd fake ratings, like these with 2600mAh. Now it's impossible to distinguish the real ones from the fakes since they'll both have a reasonable sounding capacity, and its only if you actually test them (which far fewer people will do) that you can know if you got duped. So congrats, you and people like you have helped make the market an absolute shitfest, where you can never know if powerbanks or batteries are fake or not until you receive them and test them yourself. Thanks.
@ElfRightsActivist
@ElfRightsActivist 5 жыл бұрын
Get over yourself you fucking socialist.
@TheActionBastard
@TheActionBastard 5 жыл бұрын
*stares angrily at you... mostly because he didn't think of this scam first*
@toasty4000000
@toasty4000000 5 жыл бұрын
@@dalehorton7748 This is the whiniest thing I've read in a while
@majbummer69
@majbummer69 5 жыл бұрын
I love hearing Bigclive read Chinglish.
@battmarn
@battmarn 5 жыл бұрын
Engrish
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 5 жыл бұрын
How hilariously bad Engrish is written at East Asian companies: Manager: "Hey, you! You said you know English (or went to conversation lessons), go write the copy for the English manual and packaging. What? Hire a native speaker? Do you have any idea how much that would cost compared to you doing it for free? Wait, did I say that out loud?" Japanese guy: OMG OMG I have no idea what I'm doing wait I'll just slap some English words together... (note: this is also how random English words end up in Japanese songs) Chinese guy: Eh, I'll run it through this translation site I found on Baidu. No one's gonna know the difference.
@youhackforme
@youhackforme 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMuraseofSandvich from my experience living in China, Baidu translate is actually low key better than Google's for Chinese and english
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these a while ago from a pound store - when I took it apart it had a spring holder and the 18650 wasn't soldered - meaning I could remove the cell and use the bank as a charger. Sadly when I went back to buy some more they all had the cell soldered in place. Yes they can be bought online, but the pound store ones where a cheaper option.
@organak4912
@organak4912 5 жыл бұрын
I know I'm not the only one that finds your vidyas oddly calming. My coworker's 10 year old son is a huge fan coincidentally. She said "He's a guy with a big beard and from the U.K. who takes electronic things apart." At that point I knew it was Mr. Clive himself! Inspiring the next gen of tinkerers, and mellowing out lots of people in the process. Cheers.
@degeestvanpeterrdevries3366
@degeestvanpeterrdevries3366 5 жыл бұрын
Half electronic review half food review, fucking love it
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful birthday gift, a video by Big Clive! I turned 68 yesterday, spent the whole day watching various videos on KZfaq but I failed to check Big Clive, so this morning I see a great video to watch, even though it is a day late, still a wonderful gift for an aging man (I had a birthday call from mom, who is 93 now and living up town in the Nursing Home, she tells me that I am not to consider myself "old" until I turn 70! My good wife of 60 years turned "old" last August!)
@williamh.mic.8712
@williamh.mic.8712 4 ай бұрын
Happy very late birthday! Hah hah-
@raymondmucklow3793
@raymondmucklow3793 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you posted tonight, I got my tranfer case and Transmission pulled out of my truck today, I needed to unwind a bit.
@raymondmucklow3793
@raymondmucklow3793 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mosby it all went pretty smooth til getting trans off the dam pins were tough.
@firecrow7973
@firecrow7973 5 жыл бұрын
how did he not mention the fact that the label says "warning do not follow these instructions"
@chrisa2735-h3z
@chrisa2735-h3z 5 жыл бұрын
Keep away from children? It should say “keep away from Clive”😂😂
@JUANKERR2000
@JUANKERR2000 5 жыл бұрын
@Robert Baker How do you manage that? Their parents insist on bringing them out in public!
@nigelh3253
@nigelh3253 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Big Clive. I bought a few of the Poundland ones yonks ago. I think they were 1000mAh. Variable feast! More on power banks gratefully appreciated, esp what happens when they get old. Thanks.
@plodderexup
@plodderexup 5 жыл бұрын
They sell these at your favourite shop (Poundland). I've got a couple and have put a decent recycled 18650 cell in each (~2000 mAh recovered from knackered hoverboard battery). It's a handy case/PCB and will charge my phone from near zero. Also handy to slot in one of those USB torch heads you've featured previously.
@eirikmurito
@eirikmurito 5 жыл бұрын
Give the seller a one star review. The reason there's so many scammers on eBay is because people doesn't give feedback if they get scammed..
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 5 жыл бұрын
I was given a couple of those. They came from Poundland. One had about 10% of the claimed output capacity, and the other had about 12.5%. On second recharge, both cells delivered slightly less power before they shut down. The cells seem to be reclaimed at the end of life, or else factory rejects. Thanks Clive.
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 5 жыл бұрын
Remember to translate from 5v to the 3.7/3.6 nominal for judging capacity given in mAh. They always quote what is written on the cell.
@n-steam
@n-steam 5 жыл бұрын
Going to assume the worst case scenarios and be generous with the assumptions. 700mA @ 5V means less than 980mA @ 3.6V Assuming 20% power loss due to conversion, would mean less than 1230mA from the battery. Assuming 20% tolerance on the capacity of the battery would mean the battery could be labelled as no more than 1540mA.
@toasty4000000
@toasty4000000 5 жыл бұрын
@@n-steam and then you double that number as the cell sees the maH going in when charging and then again going out when discharging. Boom 😁
@blg53
@blg53 5 жыл бұрын
@Против Глобал Pardon my ignorance, but how do you know it is a linear charger? Presence of an inductor suggests that bucking is intended. Unless it is meant for some kind of filtering which I doubt.
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 5 жыл бұрын
@Против Глобал Perhaps my basic physics is rusty here but if the input is at 3.6V and the output is at 5V even with a 100% efficiency in the output circuit the current of the output must be lower than the input or the power output would exceed the power input, the law of conservation of energy says no dice on this one you can't output 0.5W (100mA@5V) from a 0.36W (100mA@3.6V) input either the output current would have to lower or you need to draw more current from the battery to supply the missing joules of energy here. Though this is if one is measuring it by measuring the discharge capacity of the battery I guess are you only talking about if you measure the charge input to calculate the mAh value? So I guess it does depend if you are measuring the raw charge input or the real world usable capacity (output) though I would expect marketing to favour the former as thermodynamics guarantees the usable output capacity will always be lower due to losses in the energy conversions.
@thrice1888
@thrice1888 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Clive, not sure if you will see this but... I started watching your videos a month ago, I stumbled upon your components video when I learned about resistors after blowing all the LEDs in a 6v firework igniter box I was building. Point of the story: I’m 31 and work in kitchens, I never had any career I wanted or any hobby that could be monetized, until now. I have always liked electronics but now I am in love! I watch your videos constantly, most of it is a foreign language but I’m slowly picking up on it. If all goes well I will be going to school in the next year for an electronics technician. Thank you, sincerely!
@TheNicky9905
@TheNicky9905 Жыл бұрын
Wow this video is 4yrs old but anyway but I completely forgot about you bigclive, this is the first video of yours I've seen in over a year, for some reason KZfaq just stopped recommending your videos and you slipped into the ethos, glad I rediscovered you!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they unsubscribe people all the time. Not sure why.
@echothehusky
@echothehusky 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing the 6 pin chip is almost as small as those 2 little capacitors.
@Scrogan
@Scrogan 5 жыл бұрын
Especially since it’s sinking 1V or so when charging. I can’t see it taking more than 150mA or so.
@pantherplatform
@pantherplatform 5 жыл бұрын
How you doin that? How how you doin that?
@R3Cat
@R3Cat 5 жыл бұрын
cute suit head
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scrogan Put a scope on the inductor. I wouldn't be surprised if it's in fact operating as a buck converter during charging.
@echothehusky
@echothehusky 5 жыл бұрын
@@R3Cat Thanks!
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 жыл бұрын
Is Chinglish, going to replace Esperanto as an international language?
@bens1343
@bens1343 5 жыл бұрын
Jes
@bunbunson27
@bunbunson27 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a few of these at a local electronic stores. They look exactly the same as these. Its rated for 2200mah...and suprisngly, they WERE :O I verified it by opening it up and removing the 18650 and externally charging it at 500ma since thats the max charge rate the pcb board can do. And it definitely does supply 2.1 amps. I use these small power banks to power my camera on my motorcycle helmet when that battery dies. I further modded mines with a battery level bar
@andybobandy641
@andybobandy641 5 жыл бұрын
No no, Clive, 2600 mAh is the cumulative total you are gonna ever get from that before it craps out alltogether.
@dunxy
@dunxy 5 жыл бұрын
HAAHAA
@elkapitan75
@elkapitan75 5 жыл бұрын
Very honest of the shop to write "Lies" 😂😂😂
@_Piers_
@_Piers_ 5 жыл бұрын
If definitely buy one if I saw that the shop had written that on it :)
@robwigglezz944
@robwigglezz944 5 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of VTC5A's that need a good home. These cases look like a nice place.
@movax20h
@movax20h 5 жыл бұрын
The board is actually quite impressive, in terms of number of components.
@keithking1985
@keithking1985 5 жыл бұрын
Id like one of those USB testers. The U34 Bluetooth one. Another nice video.
@sigmaxi7822
@sigmaxi7822 5 жыл бұрын
I got this exact same power bank as a welcome gift for opening a bank account. I wonder how much they care about their customers. Haven't really used it anyway.
@bearicade5582
@bearicade5582 4 жыл бұрын
I was eating Chocolate Rocks when Big Clive said "rocks of Chocolate"!
@coopa9822
@coopa9822 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao your intros always make me laugh cause I forget to turn off the bass boost half the time
@TrumpCardMAGA
@TrumpCardMAGA 5 жыл бұрын
When I see cheepy electronics it always reminds me of that Fleetwood Mac song. "Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies..."
@Zodliness
@Zodliness 5 жыл бұрын
Chineseum Landfillium + HONEST Amp Hour quotes.... Are you having a laugh Clive?
@ucitymetalhead
@ucitymetalhead 5 жыл бұрын
I remember getting a couple of cheap power banks from the local cable company and I always wondered if they were any good.
@MattAtHazmat
@MattAtHazmat 5 жыл бұрын
A SOT-23 6 pin boost converter is not unusual- parts like Microchip's MCP16251 or MCP1623 have been around for years (2010, I think). The big difference is this part needs 2 fewer components than the components I mentioned - 2 resistors to set the output voltage. The part used here must be a similar but fixed output voltage. I'm curious to see the converter's switching frequency and just how hot it is getting at its maximum output current- by the circuit, all the current must be going through the chip. By the picture at 6:30, D+ and D- are shorted on the USB A connector, so according to the USB-IF battery charging spec (USB IF BC1.2), this is telling the device it is connected to that the charger is a dedicated charging port (DCP) and can provide up to 1.5A, though it can start to do a "constant current" type of charge. The BC 1.2 spec ain't simple!
@PuchMaxi
@PuchMaxi 5 жыл бұрын
How nice of Ralfy to check up on your candies well-being!
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 5 жыл бұрын
Would it deliver more amps with a better cell? (nothing between D+/D+ is quite annoying)
@TheSkogemann
@TheSkogemann 5 жыл бұрын
I picked up a couple of these for £3 each. Mostly for smaller electronics projects. Mine are all the same package but a bit more complicated circuit, and the battery is not soldered but in a socket. Therefor I can use them as chergers for 18650's
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 5 жыл бұрын
Poundland was selling exactly the same items, in different packaging, marked as 1200 mAh, last year. Same pcb, same colour defunct cell, same moulded name, same plastic box, except mine are black. I was given two of them, because they were capable of supplying less than 500 mAh. They benefit from having a decent cell fitted to them, and then the voltage holds up a bit better under load, right up to the 1A threshold, unless the cell is nearly discharged.
@scannaunderscore1
@scannaunderscore1 5 жыл бұрын
You need to do the fake micro SD cards, they're everywhere
@_Piers_
@_Piers_ 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, one of my friends was unaware that fakes existed and so was confused that her phone kept losing stuff. 64gb printed on it, the actual capacity was about 512mb.
@DerHeilendeLotus
@DerHeilendeLotus 5 жыл бұрын
Since this has both the USB connectors commoned together, could it be used as a mini UPS for a raspberry pi or such ? Any idea of what the ripple & power quality on the output would be?
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a low component count, even lower than my all time worst power bank, which entirely lacked any charging logic but rather just stuck a diode to drop the voltage...
@monkehbitch
@monkehbitch 5 жыл бұрын
On the fire with it, 18650s let off a satisfying thud when they're on a fire.
@parishna4882
@parishna4882 5 жыл бұрын
The king of innuendo.. the master of the double entendre.. You're mad.. haha :)
@braeburnhilliard8340
@braeburnhilliard8340 5 жыл бұрын
That was funny. The bird looks like it had an eye when you set it down on the picture!
@4cc3ss43
@4cc3ss43 5 жыл бұрын
What was the actual battery mAh capacity which is printed on it.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 5 жыл бұрын
I used to have a rule of thumb about power banks...they only have about 1/2 the stated capacity. Now that China is outputting so many knockoffs they only have 1/4 to 1/5 the rating listed. Sad state of affairs that you can't even get half of the amount anymore.
@Acamperfull
@Acamperfull 3 жыл бұрын
Another very entertaining video. I wonder if this could be used to make a 5V UPS when it is connected in between a 5V PSU and and 5V load.
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 5 жыл бұрын
Aaah, Clive you should have addressed one of the package cut-out window 🤣😂 'suggestive'
@gordslater
@gordslater 5 жыл бұрын
strangely, he wasn't tempted to write "wil" before the "lies"
@Poorgeniu5
@Poorgeniu5 5 жыл бұрын
I have one of these power banks given from a relative but the internal design is slightly different from this video: The purple li-ion battery is not soldered/weld to the board but instead tension fit like a AA battery socket, there is two LED for each color and the Hotchip HT4928S occupies the U1 section.
@technetium4761
@technetium4761 4 жыл бұрын
Simple, elegant, and functional. Well, two out of three isn't bad.
@powerofthemind21
@powerofthemind21 5 жыл бұрын
My mom bought us 3 of these in the local Chinese shop. They all worked :D Ofc the capacity was not high but 1/3 phone charge is useful.
@databanks
@databanks 5 жыл бұрын
Handy for a backup battery topper on USB charged bike lights, maybe? I much prefer my Mobi brand pack - manages 2+ full recharges on my iphone and can even charge it faster than Messenger on a video call can drain it (older phone, video calls can drain a full charge in half an hour on 4G)
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 5 жыл бұрын
I was snacking on an individually-wrapped chocolate biscotti I received as a Christmas tip as the same time you started eating. I guess KZfaq should demonetize both of our channels due to "mutual mastication." LOL That purple power bank is a rather pleasing shade of purple...
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 5 жыл бұрын
I got a power bank in the same case for some years now. It's working fine for an emergency backup that I rarealy use. But mine also got a second LED in blue that lights up when the power bank is being charged.
@TottyRops
@TottyRops 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, have you seen the little Dekton digital voltage testers in Poundland? I was wondering how safe they are. I think they're like a posher version of the old screwdriver mains testers that you stick your finder on the end, except these have a digital display, can test from 12v to 240v and can test AC and DC. There's also an interesting warning to NOT touch both the DC and AC test electrodes at the same time.
@thomasherzog86
@thomasherzog86 5 жыл бұрын
my rule of thumb would be volume of aa (mignon) lithium battery equals about 750 to 1000 (depending on brand) mAh minus 30% of charging loss.
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, what?!? "Do not disassemble"?!? Holy shit, Number Five confirmed...! Hang in there, little buddy...!
@TelstarFirst
@TelstarFirst 5 жыл бұрын
I've got one of these, except that it came from Poundland and it's branded Signalex. The only difference being the white backplate which forms a rating plate. As follows - DC input: 5V 0.8A, DC output:5V 1.0A, Cap 1200mAh, Model No:170327
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 5 жыл бұрын
what about hooking it up to a scope to see the pulsing of how it checks for a voltage?
@joewiddup9753
@joewiddup9753 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Scope please to show the detection logic!
@bobs12andahalf2
@bobs12andahalf2 5 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@americanrebel413
@americanrebel413 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you Big Clive!
@valveman12
@valveman12 5 жыл бұрын
@Bigclivedotcom I hope you would consider making a video on how you are taking and making your photos. They are so clear and the lighting is great. Clear photos in lieu of a service manual is a great tool for troubleshooting as you've illustrated in many of your videos.
@StrongOneX
@StrongOneX 5 жыл бұрын
Is it better to measure capacity of the powerbank during the discharge or the charging? I think fixed amperage load is not realistic for smartphone charging etc, because the phone will restrict charging power when voltage drops..
@stevedaenginerd
@stevedaenginerd 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if by changing the value of those two capacitors you could manipulate the low and high current thresholds. Would be an interesting experiment! I'm going to have to look around and see if I can't find one of those to try it.
@SkyTechElectronics
@SkyTechElectronics 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder, if you plugged this into a device with OTG USB capability such as an Android phone would it be possible that the device would start charging the power bank rather than vice-versa?
@Berkeloid0
@Berkeloid0 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it would. The cables are wired differently, so if you used a normal USB cable the phone would charge from the power bank, but if you used an OTG cable the power bank would charge from the phone. I had to draw little direction arrows on the cables I carry around with me so I could remember which way the power would flow for each cable.
@franglish9265
@franglish9265 5 жыл бұрын
OTG cable?
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 жыл бұрын
Berkeloid That wiring is mostly for the data, controlling which end is the master. There is an increasing interest in having phones charge while acting as data master for headphones or speakers.
@SoftBreadSoftware
@SoftBreadSoftware 5 жыл бұрын
@@franglish9265 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
@SkyTechElectronics
@SkyTechElectronics 5 жыл бұрын
My wife has a tiny electric fan which is powered via USB-C from her phone. Clearly there's 5 volts coming out of the port. It seems like this power bank with it's simple circuitry would see that and start charging itself rather than charging the phone.
@DemonShadow999849
@DemonShadow999849 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of these were being sold in Big W, 5 dollars for those smaller ones, and about 10 for ones double the size claiming to be 5200MaH, always seemed like they had less than advertised.
@Aslyuriel
@Aslyuriel 5 жыл бұрын
Those jelly candies bring forward a strange nostalgia, almost as if I've enjoyed them before, but as far as I know, Until now, I've never seen them before in my life.
@RichardSloan65
@RichardSloan65 5 жыл бұрын
Clive... in an old video that I can not find now you showed microUSB with pust pinned power leads (not smt) I have looked for them on ebay and ali and can not find... do you have any references?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
If you mean the two pin micro USB connectors they came from aliexpress and were described as 2 pin micro USB.
@chriholt
@chriholt 5 жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to find out the minimum current required to keep it on, and also to actually see on a scope the test pulses it generates. Still an amazingly simple circuit!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
40mA to keep it awake.
@Rybagz
@Rybagz 5 жыл бұрын
As it happens I've actually got one of these, a black one - at least the outer case is identical - and I don't think I paid very much at all for it. I've had it probably over a year, just use it mainly to charge my phone while asleep if I've forgotten to do so earlier. But now having seen this, I'm tempted to open it up to see if the innards are the same.
@kc5402
@kc5402 3 жыл бұрын
The structure of the candy was more complex than the power bank! :-D
@timb7085
@timb7085 5 жыл бұрын
I think I bought tiny "charge" boards on ebay (or amazon) that worked with a single 18650... :). As always, entertaining "review"!
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 5 жыл бұрын
The current rating also seems be to 1/2 to 3/4 if we are following the USB specification.
@archgirl
@archgirl 5 жыл бұрын
What concerns me more than inflated capacity is inflated amp rating. Running an 18650 at ~21 amps because it says it's rated for "25-35" amps when it's actually only 10 amps is just plain scary. Some battery rewrappers are taking the manufacturers pulse rating (which means pretty much nothing) and claiming it's the CDR.
@william_2610
@william_2610 5 жыл бұрын
Efest is pretty bad at that. Their Samsung 30Q wrapper says 35A when the cell is only rated 15A continuous. You can definitely get away with quite a few extra amps on the rating, but advertising it as such is wreckless and misleading. Especially considering how little a lot of people know about li-ion safety.
@archgirl
@archgirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@william_2610 Ampking too. 20 amp cells with "35 - 45 amps" written on the wrap. It's insane because those are sold in vape stores. Most people with regulated devices never bother to learn any ohms law or battery safety/maintenance. With massively inflated ratings, they're gonna do themselves some damage one day.
@alexb.1320
@alexb.1320 5 жыл бұрын
@@archgirl They are already doing themselves damage, the fda (for Americans) has a page devoted to vape battery explosions. The following site has a compiled list of reported explosions; ecigone.com/featured/e-cigarette-explosions-comprehensive-list/
@archgirl
@archgirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexb.1320 It's just a shame that the explosions get attributed to vaping instead of human error with regards to li-ion batteries. These batteries will vent and go into thermal runaway in any device when misused, but the reports always blame vaping instead of the person incorrectly maintaining battery safety.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 5 жыл бұрын
natural selection boosting devices ;) what's a missing hand, teeth and half your face......
@salvagemagician1644
@salvagemagician1644 5 жыл бұрын
Who says men can’t multitask! Big Clive can masticate and reverse engineer simultaneously 👊🏼
@_waymin
@_waymin 5 жыл бұрын
"Keep away from children" Well, you've failed that job- Clive's got ahold of it and is already ripping it to bits.
@luisgonzalez5482
@luisgonzalez5482 5 жыл бұрын
At least we won’t have to worry about him sticking a fork into an outlet- wait...
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Impressive circuitry... I wonder if this could be used for a different kind of LiPo? I 'm searching for cheap & tiny board what could charge those bch7 batteries. I use these in my wireless applications a lot, but i still have to remove them to charge. The integrated 5V boost converter makes it an ideal solution.
@mevk1
@mevk1 Жыл бұрын
Unknowingly purchased this exact used model at a thrift store. Fully charged I measured capacity at a shockingly low 100 mAh so put in a discarded 1500 mAh laptop battery and now have a decent el cheapo emergency phone charger that gives a 50% charge.
@JunkTardis
@JunkTardis 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a number of these cheapy charge packs from Poundlands before. I just rip out the cells, and I have a number of 3000 mAh LG HG2 18650's in them instead and they work a treat. I can actually get a full charge off it, and the charge output holds at a steady 1.2amps with 5.2v according to my USB load meter. Not bad at all, I've taken them camping and they've done just what I needed for minimal spend.
@Krozmar
@Krozmar 5 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting if you swaped out the orginal 18650 battery cell with a proper 18650 cell that actually has a capacity of like 3400mah.. Would you kill the circut at max load?
@mibnsharpals
@mibnsharpals 5 жыл бұрын
no , it so problem, but the loadingtime will be longer
@crawfish069
@crawfish069 5 жыл бұрын
I like to use power banks to run a single led so I will not trip over things at night, but I cannot seem to find one that will stay on with that tiny current draw.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Clive
@cheetahkid
@cheetahkid 5 жыл бұрын
hi, I have been given a dead powerbank, under inspection, I think the battery died after just a few charges. I replace with my one of the laptop battery. I also found the battery discharge quite bad drain through the circuit board (not like yours) I replaced with another board I bought from ebay (2 boards for 99p). So only good thing is just the case. Mine all work with 3,000mah battery and very low drain, it can discharge about 1Ah. Cost me I guess 80p and I am happy with it.
@JustaMuteCat
@JustaMuteCat 2 жыл бұрын
When you said “I shall pause and we shall reverse engineer this” for some reason I thought you were to reverse engineer the candy.
@SuperMrScience
@SuperMrScience 5 жыл бұрын
Where else would you find serious but down to earth electronics mixed with candy review !? XD
@GeorgeJFW
@GeorgeJFW 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think I have ever wanting to have a drink with anyone else more. Love ya BC!!!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like they have updated this board a few times - the "original" ones had 2 LEDs, they also came with a battery holder - the plastic case still have the retaining points in the moulding....
@aamiddel8646
@aamiddel8646 5 жыл бұрын
Always interesting your videos. But i hope one day you are going to buy an oscilloscope. So you can test the output voltage on spikes and so when you put a load on. But keep on the good work.
@ProfessorFartsalot
@ProfessorFartsalot 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like it may be a 6 pin pic 10f. Considering it can wake from sleep and go to sleep. But how would it charge the battery and drive a bigger output without an internal mosfet and regulator..
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
It's a purpose designed chip for power bank use.
@martinberanek460
@martinberanek460 5 жыл бұрын
one problem with measuring in mAh... the battery is 3,6V and in powerbank you want 5V. So you need to boost it.... but when boosting on the input you need more current than you get on the output... hence you get less current but in reality battery gave it away. In math terms it would be proper to measure it in watts. 5V times 654mAh(measured in video) = 3270mW then when you divide it by battery voltage you get actual battery mAh. 3270mW / 3.6V = 908mAh... still less than advertised but this is the proper method for powerbanks.
@singeslayer8367
@singeslayer8367 5 жыл бұрын
the bigclivedotcom sticker on the workbench looks like a veteran by now
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
It does need refreshed.
@dabombinablemi6188
@dabombinablemi6188 4 жыл бұрын
Still seeing these power banks everywhere, with various branding on the boxes (power banks are still the same inside).
@egrimard1
@egrimard1 5 жыл бұрын
I got one that looks similar but has a MP3401A for the chip. got it at Dollorama
@uni-byte
@uni-byte 2 жыл бұрын
That chip seems to be equivalent to a TVL61225 from TI. Except being a 5V version.
@jeffreyhebert5604
@jeffreyhebert5604 5 жыл бұрын
Ty Mr Clive Sir...love your YT
@Fladens
@Fladens 5 жыл бұрын
What were those things he used to test it?(the screen and fan)
@NeuronalAxon
@NeuronalAxon 4 жыл бұрын
Current load?
@SubPablum
@SubPablum 4 жыл бұрын
To summarize, "I shall just pop that in the bin".
@devlad
@devlad 5 жыл бұрын
Oh these units. I used to get the ones without the battery, and then blow the tiny circuit because 9/10 times the lead colours were inverted.
@MindVortex23
@MindVortex23 5 жыл бұрын
5:22 Are you kidding me I had no breakfast yet, and that is possibly one of the favourite things in the universe
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressive that they could get it down to one chip, let's see them get it down to just a chip next!
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